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Sialater wrote...

Lareit wrote...

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Garrus never defended me on Horizon.  Do you have to choose specific dialogue to trigger it? (i.e. renegade v. paragon towards Kaiden)


Don't take Miranda or Jacob

Garrus is the dominate personality after them.


I took Jacob.  I'm pretty sure Garrus still defended me (I could be wrong, though).  Maybe it's just Miranda?


Possibly, i've never taken Jacob, figured better safe then sorry(miranda always spoke up when I brought her though)

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Meta Ray Mek wrote...

For the Colonist, I can only do it with a War Hero profile.

I'm sorry man, but I cannot stand the double angst bomb of Colonist-Sole Survivor. With all due respect to those who are Colonists-Sole Survivors, of course.


I don't blame you, it was a hard pill to swallow at first, kinda like a bad drama. But after trying them all, the Earthborn wasn't for me because I'm not into the hardened-by-the-street bit and the spacer bored me. I'm not into War Hero because I prefer to start from the bottom and work my way up. I wasn't playing my Shepard when she did such-and-such, so I can't relate to it. And as someone who plays Paragon 90% (well, maybe 80%) of the time, I definitely couldn't get myself into the Ruthless frame of mind long enough to believe it, even when trying to go pure Renegade.

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I started Spacer/War Hero, figuring I'd go back and have different characters, but I feel too guilty, like I'm 'cheating' on my Shepard.

"I'm sorry Jane! You're still my favorite!"



(If they ever do create computers with 'personalities' I'm doomed. I would neve be able to upgrade again.)

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I could do Ruthless as long as I didn't have to go straight Renegade. I can't bring myself to be that much of a whiny b**ch all the time. (Some of the choices ARE whiny.)



So far, I prefer Earthborn/Sole Survivor. I tried Colonist/Sole-Survivor and yeah, that's a LOT of emotional baggage you get to carry.

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Well, I'll appologize up front for the huge long post, but once again there's 500000 things to respond to...

Gerse1 wrote...

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...


It's the same thing with me. I'm probably not going to romance anyone else at least not with the same character. The other romances deserve different characters and making 2 more female Shepards would be really hard and time consuming since I would start from ME1 and I'd get to level 60 which takes me 3 playthroughs of ME1.


Isn't it possible to "reconstruct" the face of an imported Shep? I haven't tried yet, but I was contemplating the same problem.  I want a different female Shepard to be my renegade, and a different one to "stay true" to Kaiden (I don't even really want to, but I'm gonna hold my nose and do it just in case the ME1 LI story in ME3 is really really good).  I don't know ifyou can change their name, but if you have a Shepard who made all the decisions you want in ME1, I think you can change their face during the Lazarus project stuff. Just pretend they are a "new" one.  As long as that doesn't bother you.  May not be any worse than replaying ME1.  


You can put whatever face you want on a new Shep. To change the name though, you need a save game editor.

I used the gibbed save editor (here's a link mod.gib.me/masseffect2/saveedit_rev25.zip , in case that doesn't work,  there's a link to download it in the instructions on this page: http://www.masseffec...orial=saveEdit www.masseffect2faces.com/index.php , which also happens to have some nice face templates [w/  the codes to copy/paste into the creator]... Just in case you're like me and your Shep. always looks like crap once in the actual game no matter how (s)he looked in the creator).

With that it's just a matter of opening the save once you've made your new face and going to the "raw" tab, expanding the +Player section, changing the first name and re-saving it.


siltsonata wrote...

 It physically hurts me if I leave
Ash behind because I can't stop thinking about her sisters and how much
they're gonna miss her. If Kaidan had wanted to live he should've made
a better case for himself.[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/devil.png[/smilie]

...Also,
I get a weird pleasure out of nuking Kaidan that I'm not really proud
of but...yeah, feels good to nuke that little fairy.  [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/uncertain.png[/smilie]



I hated Ashley in my first playthrough (which I never finished due to technical difficulties :P). When I finally got everything sorted on the tech front and played again, I must have chosen radically different convo options...

First run through she seemed like the ultimate anti-alien bigot... Second time she actually *explained* what she meant with being unsure if the aliens should have free run of the ship... told me she didn't really have anything against aliens, but that she had never ever ever worked with aliens before and was disenchanted with the Council's non-existant aid for "human concerns" (looking back on it, she was wiser than Shep. there :P), add that to the thing with her grandad and the whole thing got a different flavor for me... (I also had her along when I ran into Terra Firma guy and she spoke out against him, which got another plus point), she's just uncomfortable around them because she's rarely seen and never worked with them and isn't sure how far the Council politics etc. might affect them.

Then she made some kind of joke (had to do with family and the Spacer background I chose, if I remember right) and I thought, wow... I actually like her. Who let her evil twin on board last round?

I must admit I already didn't like Kaiden much to begin with... didn't hate him, just had no connect with his char. at all, and he annoyed the living **** out of me thinking I was flirting when I was just talking... forcing my Shep. to tell him off in a really rude way so he'd finally get the hint and then people were *still* insinuating that we had something going on! (To be fair, I also had to tell Liara off rudely to get her to back off, so ME1 LI's apparently had a general issue differentiating the friendly chat from the flirt...) The pushy, needy stalker type isn't my thing (nor my Shep's), so I went through ME1 single :P...
Anyway, since I already didn't like him much, and I never used him in combat (Shep. was all the biotic I needed), and I started liking Ashley, and I was afraid of being strongarmed into a rel. with him no matter how hard I tried to tell him no, when Virmire came I thought I'd rather blow him up to be safe... While it may make me a bad person, I honestly didn't feel bad when he got blown up at all. My Shep. did, of course, cause she's a good person, but I had this "phew, dodged the stalker" feeling :P Anyhoo, I know where you're coming from...


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I love the turian councilor... Yes, the Council is useless and annoying, but turian councilor is just so much fun! I loved hanging up on him in ME1, and I love the air quotes... and actually, I think he thinks everyone is an **** :P

Ok, now to read further and prolly post another big post in a min... LOL

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This isn't anywhere near done yet but I thought I'd just share it here. Real one is a lot bigger but w/e. I also don't really like the default female Shepard so I put in my own (or maybe I'll toggle helmet, not sure yet.) And yes, Mordin is my second favorite. :D

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Man, keep us posted on your progress with this.  It's looking amazing.

Speaking of WIPs ... Did you ever finish the pictar you were working on, Ravenstar?  If so I can't find it.


'_' I will prolly just finish it today so not much to post! And thanks all for the comments. Considering taking out the omni-tool though and putting in a pistol or something.

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Here fore you Garrus FAns... Please mind your head, he might shoot you.

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I do love the pic! Unless you're doing this for a cartoon, though, do you really need the bullet lines and the Pew Pew's? I think it's obvious they're taking cover and Mordin looks like he's praying, LMAO

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Hm. In regard to consequences for cheating...



Has anyone considered the possibility that if you cheated, since Shepard has experienced less than two years' time (she was, after all, dead for two years, so she's picking up straight where she left off), that you might lose both LIs? Yes, I know that's extremely cruel, even by Bioware standards--but think about it. Unless you brought them along when you confronted your previous LI, they might be unaware that you were an item with that ME1 character. Or even if they know it, realizing that you cheated (even if your Shepard doesn't see it that way) could be a big damper on any desire to resume/continue the relationship.



... And I hope that what I just typed isn't the case, 'cause that would be depressing by the end of the game (unless it were part of a plot which then allowed you to ultimately choose who to be with).

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Brass_Buckles wrote...

Hm. In regard to consequences for cheating...

Has anyone considered the possibility that if you cheated, since Shepard has experienced less than two years' time (she was, after all, dead for two years, so she's picking up straight where she left off), that you might lose both LIs? Yes, I know that's extremely cruel, even by Bioware standards--but think about it. Unless you brought them along when you confronted your previous LI, they might be unaware that you were an item with that ME1 character. Or even if they know it, realizing that you cheated (even if your Shepard doesn't see it that way) could be a big damper on any desire to resume/continue the relationship.

... And I hope that what I just typed isn't the case, 'cause that would be depressing by the end of the game (unless it were part of a plot which then allowed you to ultimately choose who to be with).


I have thought of that, and I hope Bioware's not that cruel.

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Sialater wrote...

I do love the pic! Unless you're doing this for a cartoon, though, do you really need the bullet lines and the Pew Pew's? I think it's obvious they're taking cover and Mordin looks like he's praying, LMAO


Lol I'm not going to keep that, I just wanted to make sure to remember to put in bullets flying ._.'

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koucha wrote...

Sialater wrote...

I do love the pic! Unless you're doing this for a cartoon, though, do you really need the bullet lines and the Pew Pew's? I think it's obvious they're taking cover and Mordin looks like he's praying, LMAO


Lol I'm not going to keep that, I just wanted to make sure to remember to put in bullets flying ._.'



LOL, good!  I still love that Mordin looks like he's praying though.

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Xaila wrote...

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Nice! Also to the other people who have been posting works-in-progress, everything I've seen here so far has been really great, so I can't wait to see the finished products!


Sialater wrote...

Gerse1 wrote...

Tootles FTW wrote...

Aris Ravenstar wrote...
Even if it just turns out to be an argument, I hope we get some
kind of conflict. That was my favorite part of having two options in
KOTOR2 (yeah yeah, not BioWare, I know), the juicy conflict! If there
is an argument, I sure hope Garrus (or any ME2 interest) throws in
a 'You abandoned her! I was here for her when you weren't!' sort of
thing in there
... Saying all the things my FemShep can't say because she's supposed to be Paragon... xD

This is why I always bring Garrus with me to Horizon - I always ../../../images/forum/emoticons/love.png a little inside when he defends me against Kaidan's onslaught of derpy-ness.

(not
to say that I didn't find Kaidan's unreasonable anger strangely
sexy...ahem...GARRUS FORUM! GARRUS FORUM!  Shoo, thoughts!)


Garrus
never defended me on Horizon.  Do you have to choose specific dialogue
to trigger it? (i.e. renegade v. paragon towards Kaiden)


I
don't actually want Garrus to defend Shepard, even if he did on
Horizon.  Shep's a big girl, she can throw Kaiden biotically all by
herself.  Or punch him, or whatever.  While the sentiment is nice, Shep
doesn't need a man of any species to stand up for her honor. ;)



Well, I think *defend* is perhaps too strong a word, at least it didn't feel like defending to me, more like "Garrus thinks you're an ****" @ Ash (I assume his line to Kaiden is about the same), so it was more of a "glad i'm not the only one who thinks so" moment than an "oh my knight in shining armor" thing :P

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Brass_Buckles wrote...

Hm. In regard to consequences for cheating...

Has anyone considered the possibility that if you cheated, since Shepard has experienced less than two years' time (she was, after all, dead for two years, so she's picking up straight where she left off), that you might lose both LIs? Yes, I know that's extremely cruel, even by Bioware standards--but think about it. Unless you brought them along when you confronted your previous LI, they might be unaware that you were an item with that ME1 character. Or even if they know it, realizing that you cheated (even if your Shepard doesn't see it that way) could be a big damper on any desire to resume/continue the relationship.

... And I hope that what I just typed isn't the case, 'cause that would be depressing by the end of the game (unless it were part of a plot which then allowed you to ultimately choose who to be with).


Yeah, in fact I have the sick feeling in the pit of my tummy that they'll do just that.  However, the one thing is that I don't think it seems possible that Garrus or Tali wouldn't know about the ME1 love interest.  I was surprised, but Joker seemed to know about it in ME2, add to that the fact that all of the LI's in ME1 knew about each other at the time if you decided to pursue more than one...I think the first Normandy was too small to assume gossip didn't get around.

Curious, so does this mean that Garrus doesn't say anything about Kaidan at all in his romance dialogues? Haven't managed to get that far yet in that Kaidan playthrough

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Never mentions him that I've seen.

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Brass_Buckles wrote...

Hm. In regard to consequences for cheating...

Has anyone considered the possibility that if you cheated, since Shepard has experienced less than two years' time (she was, after all, dead for two years, so she's picking up straight where she left off), that you might lose both LIs? Yes, I know that's extremely cruel, even by Bioware standards--but think about it. Unless you brought them along when you confronted your previous LI, they might be unaware that you were an item with that ME1 character. Or even if they know it, realizing that you cheated (even if your Shepard doesn't see it that way) could be a big damper on any desire to resume/continue the relationship.

... And I hope that what I just typed isn't the case, 'cause that would be depressing by the end of the game (unless it were part of a plot which then allowed you to ultimately choose who to be with).


I thought about that and even though I'm not distraught about loosing Liara, I am about loosing Garrus. There is no way he couldn't have known about the first LI anyways, because gossip goes around fast even though the original gang isn't together. Besides, my Shep has a pic of Liara's face on her desk. A picture I wanted so badly to remove.

I like to think that Garrus knew about it, but since Shepard never brought it up he might think that it was a one time thing or that Shepard split up from the previous LI. I really don't want to break Garrus's heart and in the first ME, I was pissed because I was still so sure that I could romance Garrus. I even felt like I was cheating on him by letting Liara have her way with me. As much as I love Garrus, I still wanted a chance with Wrex as well. We connected so well.

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Wow, ye gods, so much to catch up on. Y'all are fast. Let's seeeeee....

Jytra wrote...

[a really long post]


First off, woohoo!

Secondly, on Garrus' mother... I never really interpreted it as something tearing the family apart, I just figured she never really came up. She could've been the more passive parent. Tali never brings her mother up unless you ask her. I've also heard a saying, though I don't remember from who/where, and it could very easily not apply to any species other than humans (if it ever even applies to humans at all): "Mothers are for loving and fathers are for struggling for respect." That is, a mother will love you no matter what while a father will be fairly neutral, unresponsive, or even a little antagonistic and you will actively seek to impress him.

Alternatively, I also pictured her having died soon after Garrus was born - perhaps due to not following regulations, which is what drives Papa Vakarian to lawfulness... and possibly to C-Sec. However, it's up to you, and I'm curious to see what you do with it. I really do like your choice to use Garrus' personality as a base for Papa, but also making them different.

And personally, I have been physically incapable of finishing a game that's anything but Spacer/Sole Survivor. So my vote goes to Spacer. There has to be a happy family in this damn galaxy. Plus, I love Hannah, and I like that she calls 'em like she sees 'em - damn right, it's a political ploy! :kissing:

I look forward to seeing what you do with this. :D

As for Kaidan Versus Garrus, I've only ever romanced Kaidan once, and I lost that game when my computer crashed ages ago, so him flipping out on Horizon and yelling is the stuff of legends to me. I never really romance anyone in ME1, and in fact, I try to avoid playing ME1 because it's so boring to me. But it's my personal feeling that while cheating should be a big issue, not everyone really did it, so there should be something nice (or dramatic) for the people that are innocent. :whistle:Yep, innocent, right here. 

However, if there is a dramatic scene, I'd steal someone else's Shepard from the ME Save Games site (which spares me from ever having to replay ME1 again! I replayed once recently to get My Perfect Shepard, and c'est ca) and import her to see it.

Though I can't really see Kaidan flipping a sht to the point of punching Garrus or even yelling at him for too long a time. I can see him confronting Garrus and his voice may begin to rise as the conversation goes on, but eventually, he'd pull a Carth and go, "Alright, you know what, forget I said anything," and stomp away. If they could convincingly have him pull a punch, I'd like to see it as interesting character development where he doesn't sit back and let things happen because he snapped once, ages ago.

Garrus, however, I can totally see reacting with a punch of his own if Kaidan went first or went into a hot-button issue. Garrus is definitely very fiercely reactive. If he thinks you're attacking him in some way, he'll snap back, though I don't think he would do it first.

Whoever posted the HIMYM skit - LOL.

Where are y'all getting the Normandy Crew facebook stuff? That stuff is so, so funny.

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A little convo I would like to think my Shepard would have with the Turian councilor.

Shep: Alright councilor, the "Reaper" has been taken care of. Again.
Turian Councilor: Ah yes "the Reaper'.
Shep: Alright, alright. I respect your skepticism. Just as a heads up, I let Cerberus have the "Reaper" technology. So in the near future if a giant human "Reaper" shows up at your door and destroys everything in sight don't come to me with your "Reaper" nonsense. You'll be all, "Oh, Shepard you're right. There was this giant human Reaper at my door ready to kill me.", and I'll be all like, "Ah yes, "Reapers" Don't know what you're talkin' about dude."
Turian Coucilor: I don't appreciate your threat Commander.
Shepard: Don't be ridiculous councilor, its not a threat if its not real. :bandit:
Garrus: Was that necessary Shepard?
Shepard: Was what necessary?:ph34r:

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Tootles FTW wrote...

Re: Pizza - I must be behind on my porn scenarios because I was totally "Waaah, I don't get it" for a good minute.


haha, me too, I thought "he's supposed to be a serial killer?" before the light bulb hit

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Why hello there!
ME2 Garrus Lithograph (comming soon)
http://biowarestore....858f1096dd28fda
http://biowarestore....52943bcf41fc855
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<3


Out of stock already. :(
Plus I have nowhere to put it if I could get it.

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Timerider42 wrote...

tennyochan wrote...

Why hello there!
ME2 Garrus Lithograph (comming soon)
http://biowarestore....858f1096dd28fda
http://biowarestore....52943bcf41fc855
http://biowarestore....3d2a2be5e04f73e

<3


Out of stock already. :(
Plus I have nowhere to put it if I could get it.



for those of you that did order it, check your emails. Orders are being shipped.


I dont have anywhere to put it either, but Im getting it framed once I get it.

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@koucha your artwork is awesome! really like it.

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I'll never see the confrontation between Garrus and Kaidan in-game because my Shepard didn't romance anyone in ME1. xD I'm sure I'll read about it and maybe watch it on youtube. By the way, my Shepards also had to be unusually rude when it came to turning down the ME1 romance interests - it's still in-character for some of them to get angry at Liara for looking up info about their past, but for others it just seemed a little harsh.



I have one Shepard who's a Colonist/Sole Survivor. (Shepard #4, voted "most likely to become Saren" by the other Shepards. xD) Poor guy never gets a break. First he lost his parents, then his teammates, then he meets Talitha and finds out what would have happened to him if he had been captured on Mindoir, then he finds out that Akuze was really a Cerberus test and he wasn't the only survivor, then he realizes that he spent this whole time hating Saren only to see similarities between them in the end, then he dies, then he gets resurrected and finds out that he's working with Cerberus now. o_o; But then he gives the base to the Illusive Man.

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That is one messed up Shep.



It's funny you have votes among your characters... LOL

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cedardryad wrote...

A little convo I would like to think my Shepard would have with the Turian councilor.

Shep: Alright councilor, the "Reaper" has been taken care of. Again.
Turian Councilor: Ah yes "the Reaper'.
Shep: Alright, alright. I respect your skepticism. Just as a heads up, I let Cerberus have the "Reaper" technology. So in the near future if a giant human "Reaper" shows up at your door and destroys everything in sight don't come to me with your "Reaper" nonsense. You'll be all, "Oh, Shepard you're right. There was this giant human Reaper at my door ready to kill me.", and I'll be all like, "Ah yes, "Reapers" Don't know what you're talkin' about dude."
Turian Coucilor: I don't appreciate your threat Commander.
Shepard: Don't be ridiculous councilor, its not a threat if its not real. :bandit:
Garrus: Was that necessary Shepard?
Shepard: Was what necessary?:ph34r:


Hehehe, that'd be so win if this ACTUALLY happened XD

Is there somewhere I can read about what the other Starts are like?  I've only ever done Earthborn/Sole-Survivor (GRRR CERBERUS GRRRR) so I'm not sure what the Colonist/Spacer and War Hero/Ruthless ones are about.

I've always used the harsh start on Earth to give her an incentive to make her life better.  After getting nailed on the Sole Survivor schtick, my Shepard tends to be very Mal-like.  She'll fight and die for her crew, the universe can just deal.