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[Sialater]

Executor Pallin.

[aznsoisauce]

(I may as well have made its own post rather than editing it into a previous one.)

Edit:

bushes289 wrote...

I realize this has already been discussed but I need to put in my two cents. Keeping the base is the stupidest thing you could ever do. Why? Because the reason the reapers always win is because organics use the mass relays and the citadel causing their technology to evolve on the path the reapers want. 

The collector base is reaper technology, meaning that if we use it we are stil evolving the way the reapers want us to so they can control us through their technology. I wouldn't be surprised if saving it caused really nasty repurcussions in ME3.

The problem with the big decision at the end of ME2 is that no matter which one you pick, your reasoning will be based on assumptions. And you know what they say about assuming things...it makes an *ss out of u and ming.
...wait.

Anywho, I reserve the right to not consider either decision 'right' or 'wrong.' At least not until ME3.

[aznsoisauce]

Sialater wrote...

Executor Pallin.

Lilihierax. 

[Hag001]

I like Garrus... gotta lil Man Crush on him. He's Shep's best friend and he always has his back. Hope he's a squad member for ME3 so them two can continue their Bromance.



Every time they talk together I think of the movie "I Love You, Man" lol.

[Sialater]

It probably still won't be resolved. The rachni question hasn't been yet, either.

[MarginalBeast]

Brass_Buckles wrote...

aznsoisauce wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Well, they do come from a tropical, heavily irradiated planet...

Going to Palaven == Garrus in a loincloth. ...Or COD PIECE.

I'm going out on a limb here to say this, and like my comment about Garrus having problems with fans (I meant that as a joke, in case anyone takes offense--I only realized after posting it that I might have come off as being a butthole rather than joking), it may come off wrong.  However, I really doubt that we'll get to go to Palaven in ME3 or get to meet Garrus's dad.  The closest to Garrus's father I think we'll meet is that turian in ME1 who was in charge of C-Sec (I forget his name and title, but he had an office all to himself).

Even if we do go to Palaven, I really hope that doesn't mean a bunch of half-naked turians running around, and I really doubt that they'd be as attractive to look upon as many of you presume.  But then again, I don't find them particularly attractive in the first place (as awesome as Garrus is  and as much as I'd wanna be friends with someone like him--just not friendly enough to get myself arrested due to his hijinks, thanks).  Therefore, it's possible I may be wrong.

I think visiting Palaven and meeting Garrus' dad are perfectly reasonable. After all, if Garrus gets another personal quest in ME3 I can't imagine BioWare re-using the revenge plot again. I do not, however, care if I see shirtless turians or not. It wouldn't disturb me or gross me out, but I don't have any burning desire to see half-naken turians. Or half-naked anything, really.

Modifié par MarginalBeast, 25 février 2010 - 03:09 .

[bushes289]

The problem with the big decision at the end of ME2 is that no matter which one you pick, your reasoning will be based on assumptions. And you know what they say about assuming things...it makes an *ss out of u and ming.
...wait.

Anywho, I reserve the right to not consider either decision 'right' or 'wrong.' At least not until ME3.

I'm not basing this on assumption, I suppose you could say it's an educated guess, both games literally scream at you not to save the base. There are two reasons, Sovereigns entire speech when  you first meet him and the "heretics." The heretics took the reapers tecnology and became intolerant of everyhting, including their own species. I'd say that they were indoctrinated but we don't know if they were or if geth can even be indoctrinated. 

[aznsoisauce]

...By the Beard, the cod piece thing was a joke.

D:

[aznsoisauce]

bushes289 wrote...

The problem with the big decision at the end of ME2 is that no matter which one you pick, your reasoning will be based on assumptions. And you know what they say about assuming things...it makes an *ss out of u and ming.
...wait.

Anywho, I reserve the right to not consider either decision 'right' or 'wrong.' At least not until ME3.

I'm not basing this on assumption, I suppose you could say it's an educated guess, both games literally scream at you not to save the base. There are two reasons, Sovereigns entire speech when  you first meet him and the "heretics." The heretics took the reapers tecnology and became intolerant of everyhting, including their own species. I'd say that they were indoctrinated but we don't know if they were or if geth can even be indoctrinated. 

The Normandy SR-2 is made from parts of Sovereign.
:/
That's all I have to say about that.

[Brass_Buckles]

MarginalBeast wrote...

Brass_Buckles wrote...

aznsoisauce wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Well, they do come from a tropical, heavily irradiated planet...

Going to Palaven == Garrus in a loincloth. ...Or COD PIECE.

I'm going out on a limb here to say this, and like my comment about Garrus having problems with fans (I meant that as a joke, in case anyone takes offense--I only realized after posting it that I might have come off as being a butthole rather than joking), it may come off wrong.  However, I really doubt that we'll get to go to Palaven in ME3 or get to meet Garrus's dad.  The closest to Garrus's father I think we'll meet is that turian in ME1 who was in charge of C-Sec (I forget his name and title, but he had an office all to himself).

Even if we do go to Palaven, I really hope that doesn't mean a bunch of half-naked turians running around, and I really doubt that they'd be as attractive to look upon as many of you presume.  But then again, I don't find them particularly attractive in the first place (as awesome as Garrus is  and as much as I'd wanna be friends with someone like him--just not friendly enough to get myself arrested due to his hijinks, thanks).  Therefore, it's possible I may be wrong.

I think visiting Palaven and meeting Garrus' dad are perfectly reasonable. After all, if Garrus gets another personal quest in ME3 I can't imagine BioWare re-using the revenge plot again. I do not, however, care if I see shirtless turians or not. It wouldn't disturb me or gross me out, but I don't have any burning desire to see half-naken turians. Or half-naked anything, really.

Hey, I didn't say it would gross me out, just that I don't think I particularly want to see it.  And it might make those who do less pleased with the sight of a half-naked turian than they thought they'd be.  The whole shirtless/half-naked request thing is sounding a whole lot like those people who keep popping up now and then demanding more graphic sex scenes/more nudity for sex scenes in the game.  Most of us ladies would be terribly unhappy if a bunch of guys were requesting that, say, Liara or Samara had less clothing on.  And yes, I know they already want Tali out of her suit--but she likely has on clothing underneath it.

[bushes289]

aznsoisauce wrote...

bushes289 wrote...

The problem with the big decision at the end of ME2 is that no matter which one you pick, your reasoning will be based on assumptions. And you know what they say about assuming things...it makes an *ss out of u and ming.
...wait.

Anywho, I reserve the right to not consider either decision 'right' or 'wrong.' At least not until ME3.

I'm not basing this on assumption, I suppose you could say it's an educated guess, both games literally scream at you not to save the base. There are two reasons, Sovereigns entire speech when  you first meet him and the "heretics." The heretics took the reapers tecnology and became intolerant of everyhting, including their own species. I'd say that they were indoctrinated but we don't know if they were or if geth can even be indoctrinated. 

The Normandy SR-2 is made from parts of Sovereign.
:/
That's all I have to say about that.

I think we'll have to agree to disagree, I play the game and it tells me that saving the base is the stupidest most ignorant decision I could ever make, but it could be just me. It's my opinion and I'm sticking to it, I also realize that you are doing the same.

[aznsoisauce]

bushes289 wrote...

aznsoisauce wrote...

bushes289 wrote...

The problem with the big decision at the end of ME2 is that no matter which one you pick, your reasoning will be based on assumptions. And you know what they say about assuming things...it makes an *ss out of u and ming.
...wait.

Anywho, I reserve the right to not consider either decision 'right' or 'wrong.' At least not until ME3.

I'm not basing this on assumption, I suppose you could say it's an educated guess, both games literally scream at you not to save the base. There are two reasons, Sovereigns entire speech when  you first meet him and the "heretics." The heretics took the reapers tecnology and became intolerant of everyhting, including their own species. I'd say that they were indoctrinated but we don't know if they were or if geth can even be indoctrinated. 

The Normandy SR-2 is made from parts of Sovereign.
:/
That's all I have to say about that.

I think we'll have to agree to disagree, I play the game and it tells me that saving the base is the stupidest most ignorant decision I could ever make, but it could be just me. It's my opinion and I'm sticking to it, I also realize that you are doing the same.

I'm just generally against naming certain decisions 'right' or 'wrong' especially in Bioware games. Every decision has reasoning behind it. Grey areas seem to be what Bioware specializes in.

I'm open to either decision. That's the beauty of having multiple playthroughs and characters.

That's mah oh-peen-yun n' Imma steck to eet, yo. Lol, no animosity here, brah. 

[Splinter Cell 108]

If we ever go to Palaven I doubt we'll see shirtless Turians everywhere. I do believe they'll probably wear less clothing than in places like the Citadel, after all they're living on a tropical world and those kinds of places tend to be hot. Maybe we'll see what their arms look like or their chests but I doubt they'll go around not wearing pants.

[ThatDancingTurian]

Brass_Buckles wrote...

Hey, I didn't say it would gross me out, just that I don't think I particularly want to see it.  And it might make those who do less pleased with the sight of a half-naked turian than they thought they'd be.  The whole shirtless/half-naked request thing is sounding a whole lot like those people who keep popping up now and then demanding more graphic sex scenes/more nudity for sex scenes in the game.  Most of us ladies would be terribly unhappy if a bunch of guys were requesting that, say, Liara or Samara had less clothing on.  And yes, I know they already want Tali out of her suit--but she likely has on clothing underneath it.

I don't think that's the reason at all. I think people want to see shirtless turians at least partially because - dated concept drawing not withstanding - they're pretty much a mystery from the neck down. Nobody needs to see naked asari, becase they run around with their cleavage out, bear armed, and sometimes with their midriff showing. Turians always wear head-to-toe clothing, and their shape is far more perplexing than that of an asari, or even a quarian. How much of it is padding or exaggeration of their forms? No way of knowing without seeing it.

I don't get why you're imagining everyone's going to be unhappy with the result. We like his face, we're probably not going to go, 'EW, DISGUSTING!' at the rest.

EDIT: That said, I totally don't want to see a naked turian any more than I want to see a naked anything. But I would be okay with a shirtless turian.

Modifié par Aris Ravenstar, 25 février 2010 - 03:31 .

[Tootles FTW]

Look at turians as they appear from ME1 to ME2 - they seem to be less gangly in their arms and legs, generally more muscular/fleshed out.  I think this might have just the smallest bit to do with the fact that Garrus is now a LI, and they wanted to make the species slightly more visually appealing.  Hell, they altered quarians (re: severity of being exposed to foreign germs) to better suit Tali being a LI in ME2.

With this in mind I think they could easily make a shirtless turian visually appealing for humans.  Garrus could whip off his armor and reveal Jacob-esque abs for all we know.  What could anyone possibly be expecting that would put off fans?  Plummage?? 

Edit: For what my opinion is worth, I'd just be happy seeing Garrus's (muscular ) arms. 

Modifié par Tootles FTW, 25 février 2010 - 03:38 .

[Briallen]

MarginalBeast wrote...

Brass_Buckles wrote...

aznsoisauce wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Well, they do come from a tropical, heavily irradiated planet...

Going to Palaven == Garrus in a loincloth. ...Or COD PIECE.

I'm going out on a limb here to say this, and like my comment about Garrus having problems with fans (I meant that as a joke, in case anyone takes offense--I only realized after posting it that I might have come off as being a butthole rather than joking), it may come off wrong.  However, I really doubt that we'll get to go to Palaven in ME3 or get to meet Garrus's dad.  The closest to Garrus's father I think we'll meet is that turian in ME1 who was in charge of C-Sec (I forget his name and title, but he had an office all to himself).

Even if we do go to Palaven, I really hope that doesn't mean a bunch of half-naked turians running around, and I really doubt that they'd be as attractive to look upon as many of you presume.  But then again, I don't find them particularly attractive in the first place (as awesome as Garrus is  and as much as I'd wanna be friends with someone like him--just not friendly enough to get myself arrested due to his hijinks, thanks).  Therefore, it's possible I may be wrong.

I think visiting Palaven and meeting Garrus' dad are perfectly reasonable. After all, if Garrus gets another personal quest in ME3 I can't imagine BioWare re-using the revenge plot again. I do not, however, care if I see shirtless turians or not. It wouldn't disturb me or gross me out, but I don't have any burning desire to see half-naken turians. Or half-naked anything, really.

I agree. With regard to half-naked turians, I highly doubt we'll ever see such a thing regardless of whether or not we get to go to Palaven, just because it would no doubt be much easier and cheaper for BioWare to just leave them in their clothes rather than having to animated half-naked models. It's all well and good to spend time and money on half-naked human women, but male aliens? Not a chance. 

Personally, I wouldn't care one way or another. I think turians are all sorts of physically attractive (yeah, I know, totally crazy, gaspshockhorror, etc) but I'm fine with leaving specifics to the imagination/concept art. 

As for the likelihood of being able to visit Palaven and/or meet Garrus' family, I would say it's a possibility, but I'm definitely not counting on it. I actually thought it was somewhat odd and telling at the same time that out of all the squadmate loyalty sidequests in ME2, a lot of them related to family members -- yet for Garrus, who actually had a brilliant set-up for a family-related quest from ME1, they just re-used the same old revenge plot that they had in the first game. Besides which, at this point I'm operating under the assumption that Garrus (and all the other ME2 squadmates) will have cameos at best in ME3, due to their killable status in ME2. I would love to be wrong, but I think it's better to be pessimistic and possibly end up pleasantly surprised rather than to be optimistic and get my hopes crushed.

[siltsonata]

Edit: Fine, Image, FINE.  Be that way.

And yeah, I'm not demanding nekkid turians so Shepard can wallow in a harem.  I really have a genuine curiosity about what they look like under the clothes, so I can get a better idea of their biology.  I have the same interest in krogans and salarians (not the asari, though: intimate details about their mating habits, but none for anyone else. yeah, ok.) Don't want to see it in game, though:  I'd be very happy with some new, super-official art along with biology blurbs. Nerd like that.

Modifié par siltsonata, 25 février 2010 - 03:45 .

[ThatDancingTurian]

Tootles FTW wrote...

With this in mind I think they could easily make a shirtless turian visually appealing for humans. Garrus could whip off his armor and reveal Jacob-esque abs for all we know.

Oh man, Garrus with Jacob's abs would actually be my nightmare. Nothing grosses me out more than the fanart of Garrus with a turian head and completely human body. Ew, weirdness.

Edit: For what my opinion is worth, I'd just be happy seeing Garrus's (muscular ) arms. 

I too vote for Garrus going sleeveless (preferably on Palaven!). I'm totally into muscly arms. xD ::tries to think up some clever quip about Garrus' 'guns' and calibrating... fails::

But, as Briallen said, I don't see BW going through the trouble.

[cedardryad]

Well, Garrus mentioned Virmire reminding him of Palaven and I found Virmire beautiful.



I would love to see if there is some region specific clothing there.

I also would hate to see Garrus with abs. I didn't like the fact that Kaidan seemed to have his abs showing through his shirt; it bothered me. I didn't like Jacob's either.

[Tootles FTW]

Aris Ravenstar wrote...
I too vote for Garrus going sleeveless (preferably on Palaven!). I'm totally into muscly arms. xD ::tries to think up some clever quip about Garrus' 'guns' and calibrating... fails::

But, as Briallen said, I don't see BW going through the trouble.

Dear gawd.  I suddenly see Garrus flexing and welcoming us to the gun show.  /facepalm

Modifié par Tootles FTW, 25 février 2010 - 03:48 .

[DeeLite808]

I recall someone mentioning that Turians lack fat. So perhaps Turians wear clothes (ones that look bulkier than their their bodies, really) because they are cold. Wow...for some reason, that just...seems so cute to me.

Other than that, I would attribute aliens wearing clothes to humility.

Concur on this. Its mentioned several times that its rare that you will see a Turian out of armor. I guess this would also go for clothes as well (the casual wear you see othe turians around in).

Seeing that they come from a home world that would seemingly be very warm to hot (say the equivalent of Guam in the summer without the humidity), being around on other planets, or climate controlled space stations, space ships, they probably wear the clothes to keep warm.

[Sialater]

Well, they are a militaristic society.

[Tootles FTW]

DeeLite808 wrote...
Concur on this. Its mentioned several times that its rare that you will see a Turian out of armor. I guess this would also go for clothes as well (the casual wear you see othe turians around in).

Seeing that they come from a home world that would seemingly be very warm to hot (say the equivalent of Guam in the summer without the humidity), being around on other planets, or climate controlled space stations, space ships, they probably wear the clothes to keep warm.

I remember the armor comment, and this really makes me want to see a scene where we see Garrus just relaxing with FemShep in casual wear; I think this would be a very intimate gesture for a turian.  And I'm talking real casual wear, because even his romance scene resembles armor.

On that note...turian pajamas.  Discuss.    I see Garrus as a boxers in bed sort of man.

[Punahedan]

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

Oh definitely. Though if Kenneth was modeled on a real Scotsman, this would probably be my first choice. >_> [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/heart.png[/smilie]

Tootles FTW wrote...

Also, for MY Scotsmans.

Anastassia wrote...


Doctor Who?!

YYEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAH!

I'm sorry, I couldn't stop myself. That's a terrible pun. And this is my choice of scotsman.

Fixed.
Also, I love all of the above scotsmen. I'm HCL, and I these are my favorite candidates for Kenneth's model.

aznsoisauce wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Well, they do come from a tropical, heavily irradiated planet...

Going to Palaven == Garrus in a loincloth. ...Or COD PIECE.

*snorts, chokes, spits out water* LOL. Ah, takes me back to the days of Alistair's codpiece. I'm not eager for this, myself (See scotsmen above; humans, thanks), but my Shepard prolly is. Approval. Though it'll make too many other people squick out. Tali's okay to want to see out-of-costume, but not turians, nooooo. Blah. Their bodies are weird and I want to figure out what they look like... the concept art was useful, to an extent, but some things are still unclear. Like the bed thing.

Sialater wrote...

Well, remember the derelict reaper you
got the IFF from?  Dead and broken, it still managed to indoctrinate
all those scientists.

Base goes boom.  Every. Single. Time.

Yep.

If it were going to me, I trust myself to keep Paragade Shepard in line. Timmy-boy? Notsomuch. I hate the bastard, and I'll be damned if I give it to him. I'd just as soon give it to Saren, rolling there in his grave. Timmy'll just come up with some wacko scheme to "secure humanity's future" by blowing the fudge and the cake out of the aliens. Even Miranda left him behind, that's telling me something.

And dammit, man, stop smoking and drinking every time I see you. I want you sober when you're talking to me, I'm your big-ass project! :bandit:And if this antagonizes him and lets me kill him in ME3... all the better. I'll put Miranda in charge of that, and she'll clean things up. Couldn't give a damn that the sick experiments were under the "military" branch of Cerberus - Timmy still knows about those. [/rant]

Now, turians.

Palaven, in my mind, is like Earth, and so we'll never see either of them. Did Garrus ever mention that Pops ever left the Citadel? 'Cause I would not mind playing cop to prove to Garrus' dad that Shep's okay. Cruising in a C-sec car, busting criminals like I'm after the mafia!

[Brass_Buckles]

Tootles FTW wrote...

DeeLite808 wrote...
Concur on this. Its mentioned several times that its rare that you will see a Turian out of armor. I guess this would also go for clothes as well (the casual wear you see othe turians around in).

Seeing that they come from a home world that would seemingly be very warm to hot (say the equivalent of Guam in the summer without the humidity), being around on other planets, or climate controlled space stations, space ships, they probably wear the clothes to keep warm.

I remember the armor comment, and this really makes me want to see a scene where we see Garrus just relaxing with FemShep in casual wear; I think this would be a very intimate gesture for a turian.  And I'm talking real casual wear, because even his romance scene resembles armor.

On that note...turian pajamas.  Discuss.    I see Garrus as a boxers in bed sort of man.

Given that one of the main reasons they wear so much clothing is probably that they're too cold without it, chances are he'd only snuggle that lightly clothed under blankets--or on Palaven, but then Shepard would probably be too darn hot to do much snuggling... or other things, for that matter.  Somehow I suspect it wouldn't hinder Garrus, on the other hand, and poor Shepard would be worrying whether her stinky sweat would be a turnoff.

Modifié par Brass_Buckles, 25 février 2010 - 04:10 .