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[Stinkface27]

aynxalot wrote...
Garrus skin? Well, in younger days we once had this iguana. So normally I imagine the skin feels like that, but thicker and a little 'firmer'. Flexible, obviously, by his mouth movements (It took till my second playthrough to see his 'upper lip' and tongue both move when he talks...I was a little focused on other things.). I think they may be a little cooler than humans, actually- they're always covered, excepting their heads where they (I imagine) have the most plating, and the planet they come from being rather warm. They also 'don't like the cold', as stated earlier. So....yeah.

I always imagined it this way also! Or in my head, like one of those really soft skinks you pick up outside that's still all warm from the sun. =3

[AngryP1xel]

I think Turians are a few degrees warmer than humans. They just lack the ability to retain heat well but since all the descriptions of Palaven say it's hot, they probably never needed to evolve to ability to retain heat well. They also seem to have very little if any body fat. That probably means they have to eat a lot to keep their metabolism going since they don't have much body fat to burn.

[Kotori Ky]

That's a given... Garrus hot and cool at the same time? XD



But yeah, I don't think there's a time when his neck doesn't distract me. First it was because I was curious about their skin vs the plating... now it just distracts me. /cough



Maaaaaaaaaaagic fooooooooolderrrrrrrrr. Dooweeeoooo. Yes.



Anyway, good morning!

[AngryP1xel]

Kotori Ky wrote...

That's a given... Garrus hot and cool at the same time? XD

But yeah, I don't think there's a time when his neck doesn't distract me. First it was because I was curious about their skin vs the plating... now it just distracts me. /cough

Maaaaaaaaaaagic fooooooooolderrrrrrrrr. Dooweeeoooo. Yes.

Anyway, good morning!

Morning!
I get distracted by Garrus and Thane a lot.  I wanna touch them.  Damn men with scales destracting me with their interestingly textured skin.

[blueL]

blueL://run:depressing_mode



We will be NEVER able to find out.

[Andysilv]

Talking about Garrus over in the Miranda thread reminded me I've never been here to show my support for my 'bro. So, err...Garrus ftw! =)

[RPGmom28]

With all of this talk about Turian skin and physiques, has anyone ever wondered why Saren had these giant horns sticking out of the sides of head that no other Turian anywhere, in any spaceport, on any planet, had also?

[enormousmoonboots]

I don't think he's cold-blooded; I think a cold-blooded creature would be extremely disadvantaged on the galactic stage (not really self-sufficient, requires certain environments, requires more energy). Would also be significant enough to be mentioned in-game, since apparently even the amphibious salarians are warm-blooded.



I hope Palaven isn't a one-climate planet (don't much care for that trope either), but I figure the average temperature is higher. Say, if the habitable range on Earth was ~0 degrees F to ~95 F, Palaven's might be 40 F to 130 F.

[AngryP1xel]

RPGmom28 wrote...

With all of this talk about Turian skin and physiques, has anyone ever wondered why Saren had these giant horns sticking out of the sides of head that no other Turian anywhere, in any spaceport, on any planet, had also?

There's probably different races of Turians just like there are humans.  Saren's probably one of the rarer ones.  Either that, or he's a mutant.

[blueL]

RPGmom28 wrote...

With all of this talk about Turian skin and physiques, has anyone ever wondered why Saren had these giant horns sticking out of the sides of head that no other Turian anywhere, in any spaceport, on any planet, had also?

Hey, but you've got a point here. Yeah, different race, probably. But, in that case they could just use this model for some random Turians around the galaxy.
Or, more possible, to show that THIS IS DAT EVIL GUY YOU HAVE TO KILL, GODDAMN YOU CAN'T CONFUSE HIM WITH ANYONE- in more simple words, BioWare thinks we're idiots.

[enormousmoonboots]

Metagame answer: Saren is the villain, so he has to look different. Or, Saren is the villain, so he gets to look different. Why waste money making Generic NPC #5 look unique? There's probably more variance in turian appearances than what we actually see, just not worth detailing all of it. Same reason human women have only two body types (normal, and Miranda) in the future.

Non-copout answer: I figured maybe it was the turian equivalent of having six fingers, or being able to move your ears. Harmless mutation. Note that other turians have fringe in the same location as Saren's 'horns', his are just bigger and stick out more. You should also keep in mind that Saren is heavily modified (he does have a notably different body structure, shorter, stockier, with a smaller 'collar'), so you can't really use him as being indicative of the turian race at large. The 'horns' do have a kind of metallic/cybernetic texture on them. Maybe he gets Wi-Fi.

Modifié par enormousmoonboots, 20 avril 2010 - 04:00 .

[RPGmom28]

Blue, that was a thought I had as well. Because Turians can have a similar look, like the council member who looks like Nihlus, Lorik Quinn and General Septimus. Why is Saren so unique? Something to ponder.

@enormousmoon boots- I could see that explanation too.  Saren's cheek areas are notably different from Garrus's, for example, and they do glow a geth-tech blue. 

Modifié par RPGmom28, 20 avril 2010 - 03:46 .

[blueL]

enormousmoonboots wrote...
 Maybe he gets Wi-Fi.

I love you. XD

[siltsonata]

 I've slept through every biology class I've had so far (C's get Degrees, people...Okay D's.) so my opinion isn't really worth much...

But I always wondered exactly why most of the fandom seems to take turians running a few degrees higher as most likely canon just because they live on a hot planet with lots of radiation.

Garrus saying he hates the cold indicates to me that his body is poorly adapted to retain heat in at least some capacity.  I don't think he's cold blooded, but if he complains about cold weather, doesn't that mean he's not feeling very warm on  the inside?  So he's...not running a few degrees warmer?

Besides, we have plenty of animals that live in a hot environment on Earth that don't run higher body temperatures to adapt to the heat, right?  They just adapt in other ways, like Elephants and their ears, or the fact that a lot of desert ecosystems have a lot of nocturnal activity to take advantage of cooler night temperatures.  

(OOH, Nocturnal Turians! I would be so excited to see a nocturnal race on the galactic stage, although if it were true we probably would've seen it in the codex by now.  Plus their eyes don't seem very well suited to night vision. Oh well.)

[AngryP1xel]

Maybe their fringe is how they get rid of excess heat. That thing has to serve some purpose.  Aside from sweating.  Sweating might be a secondary way of getting rid of heat.  Now I want to go all Mordin and just study Turian biology.

Modifié par AngryP1xel, 20 avril 2010 - 04:13 .

[Cerrydd]

AngryP1xel wrote...

Maybe their fringe is how they get rid of excess heat. That thing has to serve some purpose.

It's supposed to look good.

Turian biology... I never thought about it that much, but I like reading other's opinions on it. I'm more of a 'let's touch not talk' person, but unfortunately that's not possible. BOO!

...err, that 'let's touch not talk' thing sounds creepy. More like 'feel and know'. Nononono, that also sounds creepy.

Never mind.

[Flammie]

ARAGHAGHAGHAGH what have I done to myself. Still, at least I know Dragon Age Character Creator works. Though I didn't need to wait one hour... I just hit Upload so I could start the process again, and this just came up as it is. Maybe making it Read Only helps...

Damn, guys, it took 40 minutes before school, 30 minutes during school (I go home to eat during lunch break), and 20 minutes after school to catch up. Good to see that the troll's fading away.

I don't know very much about to speculate about turian biology, apart from make snarky jokes. Care for me to venture one? I don't really feel like it.

As for the female gamer input, I'll be honest, I don't see very much of them but I know that they do and I don't often venture surprise unless it's truly unexpected, but I do find it annoying how, some games condescend as to what "girls" and "kids" will find attractive.

I play female a lot, and I think some people notice, yet I find the "I PLAY GIRLZ SO I CAN STARE AT THEIR BUTZ" argument stupid as hell. I dunno why I play them so much, actually.

Eh, Mass Effect's good, and so's romancing Garrus.

aznsoisauce wrote...

And Flammie...I do often imagine you as a Chicken with a
British accent (actually, with Zaeed's voice, hilariously enough). The
school girl outfit has made this imagery complete.

...You'll be happy. And Zaeed's voice? On me in chicken form? Dear lord...

kglaser wrote...

enormousmoonboots wrote...

I
always liked that turians had a few physical qualities that we usually
see as feminine; narrow waist, defined hips, bulging chest (didn't
really think about that until I saw that pic and realized that Garrus
is forced to cross his arms under his chest
protrusion...thaaaat's familiar), but it's not something that ever
really comes to mind unless you're thinking about the parts in an
isolated manner. Really shows what you can do with some good art
direction and backstory.

Yes, interesting...how we could
see all those "so-called-feminine" qualities and still find Garrus to
be sexy and virile (well, I can't speak for everyone, but for me I say
that, and I feel safe speaking for Flammie also...LOL)

So wonderful that others are considering me.

But yeah, I can see what you mean by feminine qualities, but I guess just with the rest of his body, and the predator stance that's been mentioned, he appears more masculine. Looking at the hands on hips (I actually saw it, but didn't think much of it) in Purgatory does seem to outline that.

Kotori Ky wrote...

I won't even watch the rejection vid
on youtube. I refuse. Just. No. It's like... no. No no no no no. I
couldn't do it. I couldn't watch someone else do it. It's too cruel.

NOTE:
On my opinion about the kissing thing.. I'm a big stickler to details
and it always irks me when people to OOC or ignore facts about
races/species/cultures/etc to make things they want happen, even if it
isn't possible/feesible/etc in the setting. Garrus doesn't have lips to
kiss. From the way the game has their tongues moving inside their
mouths, their tongues are different than other species, too. I just
don't see kissing as something possible for a Turian. I mean, Shepard
could kiss him, sure. But it wouldn't be like kissing a race with
A)lips and B)human-like tongue.

Sorry, as a writer things like that stick in my craw and I tend to over think them.[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/wondering.png[/smilie]

So this really does irk many people? (Yes I'm bringing this up again)

I didn't really think about what I wanted to happen (for the most part)... I just thought that locking tongues and brushing lips (they may not have much flex or be sensitive, but I don't think it's impossible, just probably unheard of) seemed best...

Well, I'm definitely keeping that in mind and staying a mile away from it. I edited the original, anyway... didn't know it was that bad...

Kotori Ky wrote...

Heeeeeeeeeeeeeeeey, it isn't always about booze with me! /grumble

Yes it is. Yes I am wearing a schoolgirl uniform. Truce?

Sialater wrote...

And rocks. With Garrus. Garrus rocks.

Good to see you're sticking with that. But yes, he rocks.

Modifié par Flammie, 20 avril 2010 - 04:15 .

[Cerrydd]

AAHHHH THERE'S THE ROOSTER WITH THE SCHOOL UNIFORM! Good to see the custom avatar works for you, Flam. I couldn't get it to work yesterday. Tonight is social life night, so I'll try again tomorrow.



Garrus and kissing... I was ok with the headbump. Shep kissing his scar would be nice. But I'm not really a tongue wrestling fan, so the inability of Garrus and Shep to kiss doesn't bother me. Hah!

[siltsonata]

Flammie your PROFILE PIC! YOU'RE WINNING THE INTERNET!

[_Garrus Vakarian]

Flammie

Wait... that avatar just went somewhere horrible...

[Cerrydd]

OMG GUYS IT'S GARRUS!

TAKE YOUR SHIRT OFF!

[enormousmoonboots]

siltsonata wrote...

 I've slept through every biology class I've had so far (C's get Degrees, people...Okay D's.) so my opinion isn't really worth much...

But I always wondered exactly why most of the fandom seems to take turians running a few degrees higher as most likely canon just because they live on a hot planet with lots of radiation.

Garrus saying he hates the cold indicates to me that his body is poorly adapted to retain heat in at least some capacity.  I don't think he's cold blooded, but if he complains about cold weather, doesn't that mean he's not feeling very warm on  the inside?  So he's...not running a few degrees warmer?

Besides, we have plenty of animals that live in a hot environment on Earth that don't run higher body temperatures to adapt to the heat, right?  They just adapt in other ways, like Elephants and their ears, or the fact that a lot of desert ecosystems have a lot of nocturnal activity to take advantage of cooler night temperatures.  

(OOH, Nocturnal Turians! I would be so excited to see a nocturnal race on the galactic stage, although if it were true we probably would've seen it in the codex by now.  Plus their eyes don't seem very well suited to night vision. Oh well.)

Hm, good points. I took the cold thing as both poor heat retention and implying a larger gap between turian internal temp and the outside than human internal temp and the outside. More difference = more discomfort.

Body temp tends to run inversely proportional to body size, because of energy requirements--small animals, like cats, mice, and rabbits run hot. Larger, more complex organisms tend to be cooler, because maintaining an internal temperature takes energy, and you need more energy to keep a higher temperature.

I don't think he'd be significantly warmer than humans, but it would be weird if they ran exactly the same. At any rate, if they're bad at retaining heat, they'd feel warmer anyway--human skin temperature isn't 98.6, after all.

[Flammie]

Wow, Garrus is here... what do I do what do I do...

Cluck cluck cluck... CAWWWWW!!!!! *runs around in circles*

Cerrydd wrote...

OMG GUYS IT'S GARRUS!
TAKE YOUR SHIRT OFF!

R-Really? I'm pure chicken under this uniform...