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[Sand King]

Brian619 wrote...

Apart from its 15cm long, i have no idea. I'm more curious on what kind of ceremony they use it on.

Dealing with people who don't let them to the Citadel

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Brian619 wrote...

Apart from its 15cm long, i have no idea. I'm more curious on what kind of ceremony they use it on.

Well i just want to know what it might have looked like in turian history, apart to blades in the present. I could imagine garrus holding around a tactical turian knife or a blade.

[Sand King]

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

Brian619 wrote...

Apart from its 15cm long, i have no idea. I'm more curious on what kind of ceremony they use it on.

Well i just want to know what it might have looked like in turian history, apart to blades in the present. I could imagine garrus holding around a tactical turian knife or a blade.

Maybe similar to the roman Sica

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Sand King wrote...

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

Brian619 wrote...

Apart from its 15cm long, i have no idea. I'm more curious on what kind of ceremony they use it on.

Well i just want to know what it might have looked like in turian history, apart to blades in the present. I could imagine garrus holding around a tactical turian knife or a blade.

Maybe similar to the roman Sica

Interesting, though what kind of grips or carvings would be on the handle, along with on the blade itself?

[Sand King]

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...
Interesting, though what kind of grips or carvings would be on the handle, along with on the blade itself?

It would all depend of Family/Clan history and honor or lack there of.

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Sand King wrote...

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...
Interesting, though what kind of grips or carvings would be on the handle, along with on the blade itself?

It would all depend of Family/Clan history and honor or lack there of.

Huh, so that means most of the turian made weapons are based off the origins of different clans.

[Sand King]

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

Sand King wrote...

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...
Interesting, though what kind of grips or carvings would be on the handle, along with on the blade itself?

It would all depend of Family/Clan history and honor or lack there of.

Huh, so that means most of the turian made weapons are based off the origins of different clans.

Just like there face tattoos. 

[Flammie]

Morning. Thread's slowed down today. Well, interesting discussions came up, anyway.

siltsonata wrote...

kglaser wrote...
Can I be the psycho chick on the right?  Please?? 

Psycho chick on the right? Which one? 

(I could almost be the one with the fishing pole if I wore glasses:blush: )

Can I be the chicken? Pwetty pwease?

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

Kim Shepard wrote...

Yeah,
Mewtwo has "biotics" like Saren, he acts superior to everyone, he
redeemed himself in the end, and he's my favorite character... Okay,
Mewtwo = Saren!

Speaking of biotics, how come we see so few biotic turians?  Bring on the cabals!

The wiki says biotics are uncommon, and their motives aren't trusted by the common soldiers. So turians prefer to keep them seperate.

Collider wrote...

Anyways, Garrus. Best thread ever. Also, flammie's new icon made me laugh. Maybe Garrus would keep him as a pet.

Well, I am supposed to be Garrus-bait.

I don't mind being a domesticated pet for Garrus. I would keep him entertained.

kglaser wrote...

Flammie's icon for President!

ROMANCEABLE CHICKEN FLAMMIE FOR MASS EFFECT THR-*Obliterated by a nuclear laser*

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

Lol at Wrex. Krogan sure are interesting, in ME1 most of them were thugs in ME2 there are so many different ones.

Charr and the "Politest Krogan Ever" are quite humourous.

kglaser wrote...

And so this is Garrus-related, I'll ask a(n unrelated) question I've been meaning to ask anyway:  who posted that pic of Garrus and Tali dancing, Rogers and Astaire-style?  Anyone know the one I mean?  I want that pic!

Your wish is my command.



This is the one you meant... right?

Cerrydd wrote...

Because I'm bored and didn't want to mutilate someone else's baby:

*snip*

...You were thinking of mutilating someone else's baby? o_O

Great pic, anyway.

Soltana wrote...

I love that ^o^



I'll leave this one here:

Modifié par Flammie, 21 avril 2010 - 07:27 .

[Xsause]

God, I should really stop putting scouters and face-paint on every pic I see.

[aznsoisauce]

Random and unrelated to the past...what...10 or so pages...:
Anyone into paper craft?
Because a paper craft Garrus would be effin suh-weet~

Unless I can find some already made print-outs, I think that will have to be my summer artsy project. (Along with a shoddy attempt at imitating a certain someone's hoody...)

[Chimervera]

[Chimervera]

Oops, forgot to add - belongs to ~theAmoretto



I love the tagline - "Vote twig-bird-raptor-thing" XD

[Soltana]

Xsause wrote...

God, I should really stop putting scouters and face-paint on every pic I see.

No. No you should not.

Chimervera wrote...

*pic snip*

I love this so hard. I want a huge poster of it.

Modifié par Soltana, 21 avril 2010 - 11:17 .

[janeym27]

mariosonic wrote...

Strangely,  that came to mind while making it. 
...
Jacob is trying to steal Clan Vakarian from Garrus!!

PS: ARGH! Now all I see is Jacob in the old spice commercial! 

Jacob IS the Old Spice commercial. (in his mind).

I can see Turians having domesticated animals for work and slaughter (necessary part of social evolution and all), but for some reason I have trouble seeing them with companion pets which serve no other purpose. I'm not quite sure why that is. I think maybe I can see a turian with a cat, and being affectioante for said cat, but the primary reason for having the cat was for catching mice, etc. (obviously, not actually cats and mice: whatever the Palaven equivelent is)
I’m sure individual turians keep pets around purely for personal amusement (especially in light of their galactic expansion and mingling with other cultures), but I can’t honestly see turian pet stores selling the Palaven equivalent of hamsters.
 
I was thinking about this, and I’m wondering if my thinking is leaning this way because, by and large, we don’t see an awful lot of Turian affection or sentiment in the game. We all know the Asari and Humans are affectionate, Salarians have their own strict guidelines for reproduction, but even within that there is great sense of family affection (the Salarian and his brother on Thane’s recruit. Salarian family data quest… even the Salarian and his Asari partner shopping all evidence this.) Even the Krogan, while still very much all about the honor and warfare, still have examples of PDA (krogan poetry). As the other example of prominent galactic races in the ME universe, you’d expect to see at least one turian exhibiting sentiment, but there is none. Spetimus goes a bit crazy over the consort, but there are no professions of love. Even the turian shopping with his Asari partner seems baffled by the notion of souvenirs for sentiment’s sake.


Re: Garrus’ history and training – do we know how long her served in the Turian military, and whether he was an officer or not? My understanding of C-Sec was that it was a very prestigious appointment, and required a good military record behind an application. This would imply that Garrus served with the tuiran military for some years before joining. The codex entry on turians mentions that military service begins at 15, and most turiens do not gain citizenship until their term of service is complete, and that this encompasses all turians between the ages of 15 and 30. This would either put Garrus in his early 30s, or (if we accept that he is slightly younger than that) have him skimping on his civic duty, which is dishonourable for turians. If Garrus ‘disappeared’ before his 30th birthday, when he was still expected to be serving a public service role for the turian society, then surely someone would have something to say when he reappears again and joins up with Shepard? I know he jokes that he ‘isn’t a very good turian’, but his sense of duty and personal honour is still very strong. Just wondered. Would be interesting to see what level of citizenship he had…and does aligning himself with Shepard when the council are not on her side place him in a position to be demoted? I know he is not putting his beliefs before the greater good of the group (Reaperdeath = bad for all), but since Shepard is apparently working for an anti-alien group, and the council deny the existence of the Reapers, I can’t see his fighting with her being viewed as adequate fulfilment of his civic duty.
 
Anyway, was just a random thought I had. Lol. Might have interesting character story implications for Garrus in the future, if we ever get to see Palaven.

Sorry for any/all of this not making sense. This is what happens when I absent mindedly typein in word documents at work....

ESSAY POST! 

[Flammie]

Had an exam today. I think I used the word "dismiss" far too much.

I guess you have a point that we don't see very much affection or sentiment from turians. You get a couple that are laid back and such, but apart from their public duty they're very militant and rigid...

I think turians spend  year in training to be a soldier, or further training to be an officer... Garrus is an investigator for C-Sec, from what I've seen.

I don't know, I think C-Sec could be considered different to the turian's army, so perhaps the Reserves doesn't apply at 30 years.

Xsause wrote...

God, I should really stop putting scouters and face-paint on every pic I see.

Interesting.

I thought about doing that to the avatar when I first made it actually. I decided not to in the end, but interesting thought and execution.

I think I'll keep me/our mascot/our Garrusbait as it is I am, though... Let's consider that the mascot's also-crazy-for-Garrus-in-a-more-open-but-just-as-freaky-inside friend that goes to the same school. Same uniform and all. Let's call her Garrie (Gah-Rye).

Flammie: Bok bok. Bawwwk.
Garrie: Cluck. Bok bok bok. Bawwwk.
Flammie: Bawk. Bawk. Bokobok.
Garrie: BOK BOK BOKABOK!
Flammie: Cuckoo?! Bokbok. Bok Hawt.
Garrie: Bakobak?
Flammie: Cuckabok. Buckoo.

(Flammie: Are... you wearing a scouter and face paint?!
Garrie: Yeah, isn't it awesome?!
Flammie: I dunno.
Garrie: C'mon, you love Garrus as much as me. Aren't you the mascot of Garrus Love and Adoration?
Flammie: How do you know that?! Well, I am. Yeah, he is hawt.
Garrie: Don't you also bait him?
Flammie: Yeah, we got him a while ago, actually. Don't know what happened to him.)

...My sig banner should be something like "Proud mascot of Clan Vakarian", now. Dunno about the extra line. Probably "Flammie the Schoolgirl Chicken". Picture... eh, I don't know.

Bok.

Modifié par Flammie, 21 avril 2010 - 12:22 .

[Cerrydd]

Xsause wrote...

God, I should really stop putting scouters and face-paint on every pic I see.

It's addictive. Next thing you know I'll be Garrussing a pic of myself. Let's not do that.

janeym27 wrote...

Re: Garrus’ history and training – do we know how long her served in the Turian military, and whether he was an officer or not? etc etc

No, I don't think we know anything about his military years. His history is vague. Wiki says boot camp starts at 15 and that 'most' turians serve in the military until they're 30. They gain formal citizenship after boot camp. On the other hand, the Wiki says that every citizen from age 15 to 30 serve the state in some way. He joined C-Sec, just like his dad. Does that count as serving the state? Because it's the Citadel and all.

I hope we get to know more about this in ME3.

Modifié par Cerrydd, 21 avril 2010 - 12:41 .

[janeym27]

Flammie wrote...

Had an exam today. I think I used the word "dismiss" far too much.

I guess you have a point that we don't see very much affection or sentiment from turians. You get a couple that are laid back and such, but apart from their public duty they're very militant and rigid...

I think turians spend  year in training to be a soldier, or further training to be an officer... Garrus is an investigator for C-Sec, from what I've seen.

I don't know, I think C-Sec could be considered different to the turian's army, so perhaps the Reserves doesn't apply at 30 years.

I'm pretty sure C-Sec it totally seperate from the Turian Military. That was what got me thinking.Either Garrus was already in his 30s when he met Shepard, or you can leave the military and have serving on the Citadel count as civic service before you turn 30. The fact that he was the investiagtor in charge of looking into Saren's activities implies that Garrus has a fair bit of C-Sec experience under his belt (he operated in the wards as well, which is not where they assign rookies, according to the codex.) I guess it was mostly the age thing which got me going again. Taking 30 as the age of leaving military service for turians, bumps him into a much higher age bracket than the 'young hot-head' thing would have placed him, which was what got me thinking about the relationship between the turian military and the council/citadel, and ultimatly where Garrus fits in with all that...

Edit: Did you use it in conjucntion with airquotes?

Modifié par janeym27, 21 avril 2010 - 12:45 .

[Xsause]

Flammie wrote...

...My sig banner should be something like "Proud mascot of Clan Vakarian", now. Dunno about the extra line. Probably "Flammie the Schoolgirl Chicken". Picture... eh, I don't know.

[Soltana]

I am dying of laughter right now, X. Well done!

[Xsause]

Or, if you're looking for a more personal version:



Or this one?

Modifié par Xsause, 21 avril 2010 - 01:13 .

[Cerrydd]

Xsause wrote...

:O:O

Flammie, you're a legend! And you're still young... I see a bright future for ya.

[falco117]

Cerrydd wrote...

Xsause wrote...

:O:O

Flammie, you're a legend! And you're still young... I see a bright future for ya.

Achievement unlocked: LEGENDARY. 1000 GP

Become the mascot of clan vakarian on legendary difficulty:police:

[Sialater]

janeym27 wrote...

Flammie wrote...

Had an exam today. I think I used the word "dismiss" far too much.

I guess you have a point that we don't see very much affection or sentiment from turians. You get a couple that are laid back and such, but apart from their public duty they're very militant and rigid...

I think turians spend  year in training to be a soldier, or further training to be an officer... Garrus is an investigator for C-Sec, from what I've seen.

I don't know, I think C-Sec could be considered different to the turian's army, so perhaps the Reserves doesn't apply at 30 years.

I'm pretty sure C-Sec it totally seperate from the Turian Military. That was what got me thinking.Either Garrus was already in his 30s when he met Shepard, or you can leave the military and have serving on the Citadel count as civic service before you turn 30. The fact that he was the investiagtor in charge of looking into Saren's activities implies that Garrus has a fair bit of C-Sec experience under his belt (he operated in the wards as well, which is not where they assign rookies, according to the codex.) I guess it was mostly the age thing which got me going again. Taking 30 as the age of leaving military service for turians, bumps him into a much higher age bracket than the 'young hot-head' thing would have placed him, which was what got me thinking about the relationship between the turian military and the council/citadel, and ultimatly where Garrus fits in with all that...

Edit: Did you use it in conjucntion with airquotes?

The problem with that timeline is that would make him older than Shepard, more the same age as Kaidan.  And while I suppose it's possible, he just seems SO MUCH YOUNGER in ME1.

[janeym27]

Sialater wrote...

janeym27 wrote...

Flammie wrote...

Had an exam today. I think I used the word "dismiss" far too much.

I guess you have a point that we don't see very much affection or sentiment from turians. You get a couple that are laid back and such, but apart from their public duty they're very militant and rigid...

I think turians spend  year in training to be a soldier, or further training to be an officer... Garrus is an investigator for C-Sec, from what I've seen.

I don't know, I think C-Sec could be considered different to the turian's army, so perhaps the Reserves doesn't apply at 30 years.

I'm pretty sure C-Sec it totally seperate from the Turian Military. That was what got me thinking.Either Garrus was already in his 30s when he met Shepard, or you can leave the military and have serving on the Citadel count as civic service before you turn 30. The fact that he was the investiagtor in charge of looking into Saren's activities implies that Garrus has a fair bit of C-Sec experience under his belt (he operated in the wards as well, which is not where they assign rookies, according to the codex.) I guess it was mostly the age thing which got me going again. Taking 30 as the age of leaving military service for turians, bumps him into a much higher age bracket than the 'young hot-head' thing would have placed him, which was what got me thinking about the relationship between the turian military and the council/citadel, and ultimatly where Garrus fits in with all that...

Edit: Did you use it in conjucntion with airquotes?

The problem with that timeline is that would make him older than Shepard, more the same age as Kaidan.  And while I suppose it's possible, he just seems SO MUCH YOUNGER in ME1.

See - this is why I'm having an issue with it! lol

Garrus has always seemed younger to me (always seemed to be slightly more niave than Shep. Caught her up by ME2). However, his being younger brings into question what serving the state means for Turians. Does C-Sec count? (not as military, but they can apparently serve in other capacities such as admin, etc, so he could still possibly serve there without having stayed in the military until he was 30). I's day that Garrus would need to have completed at least a few years in the military over and above his trianing before he was eligable to apply for a C-Sec post in the first place. And if he was shortlisted for Spectre training, that would probably also imply he had proved himself in combat pretty well. Then, in C-Sec, he would have to have been in there long enough to get jaded by it, as well as have the experience to be places at the head of such an investigation. Assuming this counts as civic service, I can see this placing Garrus as about 26 or 27 or so come the end of ME1. The problem with that is, when he disappears from record, in the eyes of the turians does that not stand as abandonment of expected civic duty? And then, signing up with Shepard would seem like a questionable act, given the cirmcumstances. (Come to think of it, what is Garrus' official staus? MIA? Presumed dead? AWOL? Does he get officially recognised as himself again after Archangel's 'death'? )
I just think that if the latter is true, then it could have interesting consequences for Garrus in ME3. Especially given all the news reports about Turian fleet expansion, etc.
 
Sigh. Turian politics. Moar Turians, pls!

[Soltana]

Didn't one of the devs comment that in ME1, Garrus was "under 30"? Did I dream that? I'm more inclined to believe that he was definitely in his late 20's at least. From what I gathered, C-Sec does count as turian civic duty because turians are a council race. From the wiki:

Joining C-Sec is prestigious; applicants must be sponsored by a Citadel Councilor or the ambassador of an associate Council race. Generally applicants have many years of distinguished service in the military or police forces of their respective nation, but an inexperienced applicant with demonstrable talent will be fairly considered. Most rookies are posted to the comparatively-calm Presidium to get some operational experience and familiarity with protocol before being assigned to the Wards.

Didn't Garrus say that he was noticed as a Spectre candidate while still in military service? I'd say that puts him around 23 or 24...Maybe even younger. Discussion with dad pushes him to still leave the military but go for C-Sec instead. His skills were good enough so I'm sure he worked his way up rather quickly to being competent enough to take on a high-profile case like Saren's. I'd say he's roundabouts 26 to 28 when he meets up with Shep.

But I could be just pulling weird-o nonexistant facts from thin air. I suck at researching and it's been ages since playing ME1. /shrug I need sleep.

Also, I like to think that Garrus is probably considered MIA or Presumed Dead. I also think he might have preferred it that way. Could have been quite easy for him to stay out of the limelight since Shepard was an Alliance service member. I'm sure the media did plenty of sweeping under the rug when it came to him Tali, Liara, and Wrex.