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[Cerrydd]

I have no idea on his status, but that is an interesting point. When I brought him to Omega, it kind of annoyed me that no one saw he was Archangel. But that makes sense, because no one knew who he was and apparently the only thing people knew about him was that he was a turian.

But no one recognizes him. Even Anderson is ignoring him completely. That's probably BW being lazy, but it still annoys me. Same thing with Wrex/Liara not acknowledging Garrus is standing right behind me when I'm talking to them, even though they served on the Normandy together.

After the destruction of the Normandy, he went back to Spectre training/got a job offer from C-Sec, but he chose to go to Omega to point his gun and shoot. I wonder what he said when he resigned and took off, and if Spectre training/C-Sec has any clue if he's alive, dead, or just off the radar.

I can imagine the Citadel changing after the attack by Sovereign and new people coming there, but I thought he might run into someone he knew from the old days. But nooooooo. Right now it looks like Garrus Vakarian is dead and only Shepard and Tali know he's still there. And TIM of course, because I don't believe a thing about him saying he had no clue where Garrus was.

[Xsause]

kglaser wrote...

Cerrydd wrote...

kglaser wrote...

PALAVEN IN ME3...PLEASE BIOWARE??

Now you've made me send Obsequious Baby to beg for me:

Oh come on, start acting mature. At least paint a visor and tattoo on it.

Sounds like a suicide mission.

I volunteer.



Look, he even has Garrus' eyes! D'awwwwwwwwww....

[smecky-kitteh]

o.0

[Cerrydd]

Oh no Xsause, what have you done... I can't decide whether that baby looks cute or badass.

[Soltana]

MUTANT BABIES, GARRUS! Must...resist...urge to...do this...to photo of own offspring. Must...talk like...William Shatner...

[AngryP1xel]

What the hell did I wake up to?

[Cerrydd]

Just to show that baby was posted for a good cause:

[enormousmoonboots]

I can't see a majority of turians serving 15 years in the military, then having no other skills (and back to my earlier social yadda-yadda, a society needs a surplus of food before they can even think of starting an economy or an army--I think the pragmatic turians would recognize that). I know they kind of have a caste system, but it's not strict enough that they wouldn't need job skills. I can't see Garrus and his authority problems sticking in there for 15 years, and I can't see his strict father letting him go tool around with another job until 30 or near 30.



C-Sec is a prestigious job; it's possible that if it isn't counted as exactly serving the state, it's important enough to get a wave. Similarly, being drafted by a Spectre in the name of restoring honor to the turians and taking down a rogue (I have a feeling Garrus might have used that excuse to his superiors, if he'd told them SUCK IT on his last day I doubt they'd welcome him back) is also important enough to circumvent the usual traditions.



So yeah, I agree with Soltana. 26-28 in ME1, 28-30 in ME2. Shep's age or just slightly younger.



Dev comment, under 30. We ought to put this in the OP or something.

[Pacifien]

janeym27 wrote...
I'm pretty sure C-Sec it totally seperate from the Turian Military. That was what got me thinking.Either Garrus was already in his 30s when he met Shepard, or you can leave the military and have serving on the Citadel count as civic service before you turn 30. The fact that he was the investiagtor in charge of looking into Saren's activities implies that Garrus has a fair bit of C-Sec experience under his belt (he operated in the wards as well, which is not where they assign rookies, according to the codex.) I guess it was mostly the age thing which got me going again. Taking 30 as the age of leaving military service for turians, bumps him into a much higher age bracket than the 'young hot-head' thing would have placed him, which was what got me thinking about the relationship between the turian military and the council/citadel, and ultimatly where Garrus fits in with all that...

I imagine the Turian Hierarchy makes military service compulsory in some manner. I know in South Korea, all men must serve in the military for almost two years. In Switzerland, all men are considered part of their military. Turians could require military service anywhere in between that spectrum.

Since the codex mentions Turians start their service to the state at 15, Garrus could have been in the military as young as 15, served his two years, then got out. Though I bet Garrus stayed in at least five years, but that makes him just 20 when he joins C-Sec.

I've wondered about why Garrus was given the task of investigating Saren. I came up with four scenarios.
1. It was randomly assigned.
B. He volunteered.
iii. He's been in C-Sec long enough to be considered a veteran investigator capable of the big assignments.
4. He's considered a C-Sec rookie/hothead who someone thought would purposely screw up the investigation into one of the most reknowned Turian Spectres.

I lean toward scenario four, which is why I think Garrus is younger than Shepard in ME1.

[janeym27]

enormousmoonboots wrote...

I can't see a majority of turians serving 15 years in the military, then having no other skills (and back to my earlier social yadda-yadda, a society needs a surplus of food before they can even think of starting an economy or an army--I think the pragmatic turians would recognize that). I know they kind of have a caste system, but it's not strict enough that they wouldn't need job skills. I can't see Garrus and his authority problems sticking in there for 15 years, and I can't see his strict father letting him go tool around with another job until 30 or near 30.

C-Sec is a prestigious job; it's possible that if it isn't counted as exactly serving the state, it's important enough to get a wave. Similarly, being drafted by a Spectre in the name of restoring honor to the turians and taking down a rogue (I have a feeling Garrus might have used that excuse to his superiors, if he'd told them SUCK IT on his last day I doubt they'd welcome him back) is also important enough to circumvent the usual traditions.

So yeah, I agree with Soltana. 26-28 in ME1, 28-30 in ME2. Shep's age or just slightly younger.

Dev comment, under 30. We ought to put this in the OP or something.

Sorry - didn't mean to reopen the age debate. I was more focused on the implications of Garrus dropping off grid before he was 30, since that is a sort of abandonment of civic duty. I'm sure the first time he went off with Shep it counted as service, but the years on Omega and this new mission probably don't. Even beyond the usual public service of turians, might his apparent 'siding' with Cerberus be treated as dishonerable by turian society at large, even though it is for a greater good (they don't believe in the Reapers, etc.)

But I don't think that this'll ever get explained. Just thought it would be interesting to see.

And I think we should see more Turian affection in the game. They are the only primary race I haven't seen any evidence of sentiment or affection from (Batarians aside. But Baterians haven't had nearly as much exposure yet.)

[silentstephi]

/comes up for air from her funk

DON'T LET THEM KILL GARRUS! T.T

If anything Ash needs to get stuffed. She killed Wrex. T.T

[Ray Joel Oh]

Don't kill Ashley, it makes no sense. Vote for the biotics, they eat too much.

[Cerrydd]

Ray Joel Oh wrote...

Don't kill Ashley, it makes no sense. Vote for the biotics, they eat too much.

This indeed. I keep voting for Kaidan, since he's the only biotic (next to Miranda) who gets a lot of votes. Besides, I think Kaidan is a stronger biotic than Miranda. Stronger biotic = more food. Well, that's my reasoning for it .

[Evander]

Which biotic should we be offing for solidarity? I vote third-party in real life, BUT I WANT TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE HERE.

Edit: Well, there's some direction.

Edit #2: NGH.  I voted Kaidan, but it looks like I should have gone with Miranda.  Imagine how much she must eat to maintain that ass too. :C

Modifié par Evander, 21 avril 2010 - 04:41 .

[Ray Joel Oh]

Eh, I don't like the strategizing. Let them be the ones coordinating efforts to screw up the game. Just vote logically.

[blueL]

Eee... guys, you noticed that Garrus has most of votes? Damn, I leave you for a moment and see what happens!

Save Garrus! D:

[silentstephi]

Eh, they're all just bein' xenophobes now. I doubt Logic has any part in it.



I'm having so much trouble trying to DL Riot's screenshot thingies... Y.Y

[LOLandStuff]

What I want to know is why voting Garrus off all of a sudden.

A few days ago everyone stormed on Miranda and Kaidan. Kaidan because he is boring as many say.

[Ray Joel Oh]

Because the blue people hate Garrus. :C

[AngryP1xel]

You Asari are all racist!

[LOLandStuff]

Sad poll is sad and dumb people are dumb.

[Soltana]

Alright, alright, no need to get in a tizzy folks. All we can do is vote according to how the game is played despite immature little fanboys jealous of Garrus' manliness. I voted for Miri because 1.) Biotics eat muchly and 2.) Her pudding butt could feed the whole dang crew for a month!



....Ew.

[Skilled Seeker]

Save Garrus vote Miri! Dat ass and dem bewbs can keep the crew going.