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[AngryP1xel]

Flammie wrote...

AngryP1xel wrote...

Those hi res shots make me want to touch him.

...Where?

Sorry, sorry. Ugh, seriously, I've got to chain myself away from here if I want to get any work done ¬.¬

Anywhere...everywhere...

[Flammie]

ELE08 wrote...

Flammie wrote...

Ah, those, I think it may have came up in this thread. But yeah, shiney

Yeah I figured.  That's what happens when I give up on keeping up.
Oh well, y'all don't mind looking at him again I'm sure

Oh, definitely not, thanks for bringing them up again. You can't get enough of Garrus.

AngryP1xel wrote...

Flammie wrote...

AngryP1xel wrote...

Those hi res shots make me want to touch him.

...Where?

Anywhere...everywhere...

...Yeah, I can't think of one place I wouldn't want to touch him, and there's far too many I would want to to narrow down.

Modifié par Flammie, 22 avril 2010 - 08:01 .

[Raphael diSanto]

aynxalot wrote...

True. Also, Garrus is comfortable expressing his frustration with Shepard's guidance if you Paragon him. It lends a realistic touch to their rrelationship- people don't always agree or get along, even if they're longtime friends/lovers. In the first game, with Saleon, if you try to arrest instead of kill him you get the whole snippy "So he dies anyway. Can you tell me what was the point of all that?". IN ME2, it's "I appreciate the concern, but I'm not you." I actually enjoy those parts, because it's a chance to have some real discussion rather than just telling him "Don't kill people if you don't have to" and Garrus saying "Oh, okay."

ETA: That was one thing that surprised me about Jack's loyalty mission. When she goes to kill Arresh, if you go Paragon you only have to tell her once not to kill him. I'd expected a bit of "But I reeeaaally want to kill him!", especially since she's an LI.

Well, to be fair with the Dr. Saleon thing, you do then get the opportunity to justify your choice to Garrus who then goes "Oh, well, yeah, I guess you have a point."

He is certainly comfortable with expression his frustration at Shepard's guidance, but that doesn't mean he doesn't appreciate the wisdom of it when explained to him.

(And Jack's -already- conflicted about killing Arresh. You can tell with the whole "F**k, will killing him fix my head?" line, which I just love. That's an important pointer to her character. If she was truly as ****y and unredeemable as she makes out to me, she'd have pulled the trigger without any hesitation)

Modifié par Raphael diSanto, 22 avril 2010 - 08:02 .

[kglaser]

Azint wrote...
 I really enjoyed the talks and learning about the alien cultures, that's also when I first became really fond of Tali. Garrus' talks were interesting because he was still in the middle of his character developement, loose-cannon or play it straight. Because their was no romance with them in the first game they really came off as friends and were very refreshing characters, they even seemed more human than most of the humans you meet in-game. Come Mass Effect 2, they both go through a good amount of developement and I really see how great of characters they have become.

Well-said, and I agree.

[Flammie]

I believe aynxalot's point wasn't that Garrus is fully stubborn, but that instead of submitting to Shepard all the time, he's also willing to question him/her, which not a lot of the squad members seem to actually do. True, he appreciates what Shepard says, but he's also interesting in that he brings his own views to Shepard; revenge, the rules, what the point of actions are and such.

Modifié par Flammie, 22 avril 2010 - 08:09 .

[Alraiis]

kglaser wrote...

Alraiis wrote...

Much love for the Garrus crowd. I want to see him back in ME3, and I'm counting on you fine folks to get it done! I'd help, but, uh... I have a thing to get to.

Niftu Cal is the Biotic God.

Alraiis is the Limerick God.

[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/cool.png[/smilie]

kg, I'm humbled you'd compare us
But Niftu wins, to my awareness
   Sure, I write rhymes much faster
   But he's a biotic master!
(Yet not quite as badass as Garrus)

Modifié par Alraiis, 22 avril 2010 - 08:11 .

[Raphael diSanto]

Flammie wrote...

I believe aynxalot's point wasn't that Garrus is fully stubborn, but that instead of submitting to Shepard all the time, he's also willing to question him/her, which not a lot of the squad members seem to actually do. True, he appreciates what Shepard says, but he's also interesting in that he brings his own views to Shepard; revenge, the rules, what the point of actions are and such.

Well, Garrus having his own value system is one of the things that makes him such an interesting character

[_Garrus Vakarian]

Flammie wrote...

...Yeah, I can't think of one place I wouldn't want to touch him, and there's far too many I would want to to narrow down.

You might want to go easy on the right side of my face, Shepard. The pain causes a lot of stress for me.

[Flammie]

...o_O

Haven't the cybernetics have had any effect on the pain, and surely wounds, no matter how grave, with enough care, heal over time? I'm quite surprised.

And, as much as I'd love to delude myself that I'm Shepard, your potential LI, I'm not the real deal. I'm just a chicken in  a schoolgirl uniform. Who can't actually act like an actual chicken.

Modifié par Flammie, 22 avril 2010 - 08:15 .

[kglaser]

Ray Joel Oh wrote...

Yeah, it keeps getting said, but Bioware needs more "just friends" options. They did that pretty well in Dragon Age.

Edit: though listen to me being all demanding when they're pretty much the only game company right now writing in these sorts of open-ended and engaging friendships and relationships.

Yeah, jeez, quit whining...you sound as whiny as that Garrus guy.

[AngryFrozenWater]

If you didn't like the red one...



... then try the new blue one.



Click these images for instructions.

Have fun.

[Flammie]

Nice work, AngryFrozenWater.

Now... for the two posts before...

Alraiis wrote...

kglaser wrote...

Alraiis wrote...

Much
love for the Garrus crowd. I want to see him back in ME3, and I'm
counting on you fine folks to get it done! I'd help, but, uh... I have
a thing to get to.

Niftu Cal is the Biotic God.

Alraiis is the Limerick God.

[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/cool.png[/smilie]

kg, I'm humbled you'd compare us
But Niftu wins, to my awareness
   Sure, I write rhymes much faster
   But he's a biotic master!
(Yet not quite as badass as Garrus)

Wow, you've graced us with yet another great limerick. You really are good at writing them, you know.

Raphael diSanto wrote...

Flammie wrote...

I believe aynxalot's point wasn't that Garrus is fully stubborn, but that instead of submitting to Shepard all the time, he's also willing to question him/her, which not a lot of the squad members seem to actually do. True, he appreciates what Shepard says, but he's also interesting in that he brings his own views to Shepard; revenge, the rules, what the point of actions are and such.

Well, Garrus having his own value system is one of the things that makes him such an interesting character

Oh, yeah, definitely. I found him a little submissive to Paragon Shepard at the start especially in ME1, but he's definitely got an interesting thought and value system, which adds to his whole charm.


And...

blueL wrote...

So, yeah, just wanted to say that there won't be any pics in next 24
hours, as I let myself go a little too much and got banned for spamming
a troll thread with pics xD

Tell the girls I love them. I'll have an eye on you, tho (meet my friend, Mr. Proxy )



hugs and kisses

blueL

Modifié par Flammie, 22 avril 2010 - 08:23 .

[AngryFrozenWater]

If you didn't like the red one...



... then try the new blue one.



Click these images for instructions on how to add the to your sig.

Have fun.

Edit: Oops. Corrected the link above. Sorry.

[Cerrydd]

Awww, blueL got a 24 hour ban? Well, then she has 24 hours to keep drawing Garrus so she can make an epic comeback. Otherwise Soltana will be pissed... mwuhahaha.

[Raphael diSanto]

Flammie wrote...

Raphael diSanto wrote...
Well, Garrus having his own value system is one of the things that makes him such an interesting character

Oh, yeah, definitely. I found him a little submissive to Paragon Shepard at the start especially in ME1, but he's definitely got an interesting thought and value system, which adds to his whole charm.

Well... *grin* .. That does lead to the reason why I'm lurking and being all troublesome in this thread..

I've been writing a series of fics. These are letters written by the crew of the Normandy SR1 sometime between the destruction of the SR1 and Shepard's resurrection. I've called them the Forgotten Letters. I'm slowly working my way through the crew, one at a time, as inspiration strikes.

I just completed Garrus' letter, and .. I can say without a shadow of a doubt that this was the most difficult letter to write so far. Garrus is such a complex character and his relationship with Shepard is very multi-layered, which made it very difficult for me to get  a handle on what he'd write in a letter to a dead Shepard.

The other letters, generally are set at an indeterminate point of time as described above - But the motivation for Garrus' letter was inspired by Sialater's excellent The Funeral, which sets it in a much narrower window - This letter is written after the destruction of the Normandy SR1, but before the events of Redemption, before Liara has decided to give Shepard to Cerberus.

Garrus is one of my favorite characters, and I'm very aware that everyone in this thread loves him to bits, so .. I hope you all like it, and I hope you all feel that I've done him justice.

Shepard,

I talked to Liara the other day. We.. We hadn't really spoken since... Well, you know. She's crazy, that one. Even crazier than she was when we were on the Normandy with that whole... mystic Asari 'embrace eternity' crap. We talked after.. Well, we had a memorial service for you. You wouldn't have liked it. I guarantee it.

She said the strangest thing to me.

"If Shepard could be brought back, what would you do?"

That's what she said to me. Crazy damn Asari. Brought back? You're dead. You got spaced. There's no coming back from that. Not even for you. What the hell did she mean? I think I need you here to answer that one for me.

I mean, hell, you were always the one with the answers, Shepard. Kill Dr. Saleon, don't kill Dr. Saleon? You had the answer. Bring Saren in alive, don't even waste the time? You had the answer. You always had the damn answer.

You know how irritating that was? You know how frustrating it was to know that you always had the answer, and you always had a reason for it. And you know what the worst part was, the most annoying part of all? Your damn reasons were good. And your answers were right.

Dammit, Shepard, back then I had no questions. I had it all figured out. C-Sec was stifling, paperwork got in the way of doing the right thing and I just knew I could do a better job if the game was played by my rules. And then you showed up and I took my chance. I could see it, right in front of me. Here was a chance to do things my way. The right way. Show everyone how it was done. Show you how it was done.

But it didn't work out that way, did it? You saw beyond the badge and the gun. Beyond the confidence. You saw me. The real me. The me I didn't even know existed until I met you. And you knew that I didn't have any damn answers of my own. Not the right ones, anyway. No, I didn't impart any fancy Turian military doctrine wisdom to the jumped up wannabe human Spectre. You didn't learn from me. I learned from you. We all did.

You were the glue that held us all together. What is that human saying? The whole is greater than the sum of its parts? Put together - We were a whole. And you were the one that made it happen. You were the nexus. We were drawn to you and we could no more escape the force of your personality than Palaven can escape its orbit. And then you left us; and now we are wandering aimlessly through the void like a planet with no star, pulled many directions by many forces, but none strong enough to capture us like you did.

You shook my world view, Shepard. You redefined me. You took a C-Sec agent trying to do the right thing in the wrong place and you gave him a purpose. And then you died, and .. now I need a new purpose .. Something else to give my life meaning. When I first met you, I thought I had all the answers. I was wrong. You showed me that. And now you're gone, but I still need you here.. to.. to answer the questions I can't answer myself anymore. To explain the things I can't understand.

When Liara asked me what she asked me.. I answered in the only way I could. I told her that I would do.. anything you needed.

But I still don't know what she meant.

I wish you were here. I wish you could explain it to me. But you're not, and I have to figure it out myself.. But.. Wherever you are, Shepard. Wherever you've gone.. I hope you know where I am, and that.. I'll be here if you need me.

Garrus

Modifié par Raphael diSanto, 22 avril 2010 - 08:44 .

[kglaser]

blueL wrote...

This is getting sick. I get up in the morning and the first thing I do is checking out what is happening here.

This place is like an opium-crack milkshake.  I got up 10 minutes earlier this morning than usual so I could check this place before work.

[Flammie]

Little temporary memorial:










Edit: I just realised a skit wasn't the best idea for a memorial, especially considering I'm going to have to miss out people or this would be too big... Sorry people not mentioned, don't worry, I remember you all (even the troll)

Love you all.

Modifié par Flammie, 22 avril 2010 - 09:32 .

[kglaser]

blueL wrote...

Does it mean I'm some kind of this thread's art slave now...? o_O

Yes.  Yes it does.
Now stop posting all those other awesome pictures and finish the tongue one.

[Flammie]

Raphael diSanto, that was an amazing piece of work. Sorry it took a while to get back to it, I didn't realise there were two posts before the next page, and I assumed the last page ended on Cerrydd's post, heh.



I'm actually generally terrible at getting or telling OOC-ness, so I'm probably not one to judge, but I liked it.

[Raphael diSanto]

*grin*.. Well, if you liked it, then it served its purpose. For me, finding Garrus' voice in it was tricky, silly bloody Turian didn't want to be pinned down to any one single theme.

[Flammie]

Well, I guess we have to see what others say, but for what it's worth, even if OOC, it's a good piece of work.

[Xsause]

Flammie wrote...

Raphael diSanto, that was an amazing piece of work. .

Agreed. And don't worry about OOC-ness, Garrus is actually a pretty flexible character to write. The hardest character to write without making him sound OOC is Thane, IMO. It's really hard.

Oh, and I've also written a new FemShepxGarrus crackfic. It's rated M, and for a good reason. Doesn't have any smutty parts, though. But still. VIEWER BEWARE!

Modifié par Xsause, 22 avril 2010 - 09:05 .

[kglaser]

Alraiis wrote...

kglaser wrote...

Alraiis wrote...

Much love for the Garrus crowd. I want to see him back in ME3, and I'm counting on you fine folks to get it done! I'd help, but, uh... I have a thing to get to.

Niftu Cal is the Biotic God.

Alraiis is the Limerick God.

[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/cool.png[/smilie]

kg, I'm humbled you'd compare us
But Niftu wins, to my awareness
   Sure, I write rhymes much faster
   But he's a biotic master!
(Yet not quite as badass as Garrus)

You see?  You see what he did there??

[Sialater]

Xsause wrote...

Flammie wrote...

Raphael diSanto, that was an amazing piece of work. .

Agreed. And don't worry about OOC-ness, Garrus is actually a pretty flexible character to write. The hardest character to write without making him sound OOC is Thane, IMO. It's really hard.

Oh, and I've also written a new FemShepxGarrus crackfic. It's rated M, and for a good reason. Doesn't have any smutty parts, though. But still. VIEWER BEWARE!

Rafe:  Like I said, the letter was great.

XSause:  Love the crackfic, it was hysterical.

[kglaser]

Raphael diSanto wrote...

*grin*.. Well, if you liked it, then it served its purpose. For me, finding Garrus' voice in it was tricky, silly bloody Turian didn't want to be pinned down to any one single theme.

I thought you did a really nice job.  And the last paragraph put a lump in my throat.