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[Collider]

Flammie wrote...

...Oh dear lord, Garrus is "interested" that way in chickens, isn't he?

In ME3, you will get an email from a crazed fan who asks to tell Garrus to meet him/her on the Citadel. And the fan asks if Garrus likes schoolgirls. And chickens. Particularly disturbing for the people who didn't see this thread, but even more hilarious for those who have. Hey, they did it with Thane, why not Garrus? :innocent:

I think no new romances at all would be the better path, but I think it'll be likely to go with "two new romances with two new characters in ME3", parce (dammit) because those that may start at ME3 and may not be able to get ME2 or 1 may feel a bit left out. I know they shouldn't start at the end of a trilogy, especially one with more of a story like ME3, but you can't deny people will do that, and they should be able to start a romance in it if they want to.

That's fine, I just don't Bioware to make new romances for existing characters that already have one. It wouldn't make sense.

[Flammie]

Wait, Soltana's the fast-attacker and I'm the magic chicken?

...Alright.

Am I the same size as Soltana, or is it just zoomed in more for me?

Glad blueL's art brought you here, Celrath. Will you be staying for long?

Collider wrote...

Flammie wrote...

...Oh dear lord, Garrus is "interested" that way in chickens, isn't he?

In
ME3, you will get an email from a crazed fan who asks to tell Garrus to
meet him/her on the Citadel. And the fan asks if Garrus likes
schoolgirls. And chickens. Particularly disturbing for the people who
didn't see this thread, but even more hilarious for those who have.
Hey, they did it with Thane, why not Garrus? [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/angel.png[/smilie]

Disclaimer: Taking Garrus on this Assignment will result in immediate termination of any romance with him. And a recruitable character.

But that'd be hilarious.

I
think no new romances at all would be the better path, but I think
it'll be likely to go with "two new romances with two new characters in
ME3", parce (dammit) because those that may start at ME3 and
may not be able to get ME2 or 1 may feel a bit left out. I know they
shouldn't start at the end of a trilogy, especially one with more of a
story like ME3, but you can't deny people will do that, and they should
be able to start a romance in it if they want to.

That's fine, I just don't Bioware to make new romances for existing characters that already have one. It wouldn't make sense.

Yeah, I could see how it could be made to make sense, but I think it'd be a lot easier and better if the ME1 romances and ME2 romances can only be started in their respective games.

Modifié par Flammie, 24 avril 2010 - 09:10 .

[Timerider42]

This can't end well.

Flammie wrote...
Am I the same size as Soltana, or is it just zoomed in more for me?

I think it's just perspective.



Also Garrus.

Modifié par Timerider42, 24 avril 2010 - 09:13 .

[zoe.garrus]

blueL wrote...


I'll just leave it here.

Amazing blueL!

[Brass_Buckles]

No, I meant that too. Most Bioware games have romances. They may add a couple of romanceable characters to ME3, but it would make sense for at least some of the previous games' cast to be able to be romanced in ME3. The ones it would make the most sense for would be Liara, Kaidan or Ashley, Garrus, and Tali since that would make the game come full-circle, and also enable people who cheated to go back to their original romance--albeit with consequences. For Garrus and Tali it would mean you'd spent two games getting to know that character before finally romancing them. But "making sense" aside, Miranda and Jacob are the ones that seem most likely to be re-romanceable.

I suspect that, even if it would make sense, Garrus and Tali won't be romanceable characters in ME3 because if you reject them in ME2 they're just not interested anymore/too dejected by it. If they are romanceable, then it would be nice to see them approach Shepard, rather than Shepard having to approach them (especially in the case of Garrus). In other words, it'd play out totally differently than in ME2 if you avoided them until ME3. Garrus or Tali would recognize an attraction and finally build up the courage to find out how Shepard felt. But the resolution would not be as concrete as it would have been had you romanced them from ME2 (and there could be some extra bonus to be had if you had earned their respective 'kept this character in the party most of the game' achievements in ME1). They wouldn't be in love, just beginning something with your Shepard. But again, I don't really see those two having potential romance in ME3 unless you already did. On the other hand? Kaidan/Ashley and Liara almost assuredly will be romanceable in ME3, just to complete the story.

I do not believe that Thane will be romanceable, because he'll probably be too close to death in ME3 unless he can be cured (such as via a DLC or within ME3). Jacob and Miranda, maybe, Samara possibly (since you couldn't in ME2). I don't really know. Jack? Doubtful.

Modifié par Brass_Buckles, 24 avril 2010 - 09:17 .

[Flammie]

I can see how re-romancing, or starting the romance in ME3 would work, and different possibilities, and it may be interesting, but I think resources and such would be an issue, so I doubt there will be many re-romancing cases, if at all.

@Celrath:

That's fine by me. I dunno who's taking bets, though. Probably going to be the thread drunkies.

I doubt the evil thread villain with monocle and mustache which has taken it off for the battle will be happy with your support.

...Someone should make this into a poll. I don't think it should be me or Soltana because there will be some sort of bias/assumed bias by the voters.

Modifié par Flammie, 24 avril 2010 - 09:18 .

[Brass_Buckles]

Like I said, I think the only re-romances would be with Kaidan/Ashley and Liara, though again Garrus or Tali may be possible (doubtful but maybe) if you didn't romance them in ME2, or if you ended the romance early on (rather than in that last scene). Because, hey, having second thoughts would imply that you had thoughts in that direction to start with. I can see that causing some serious hesitance, but forcing Garrus or Tali to initiate a romance conversation rather than Shepard. Then it's up to you to reject them or not...

[zoe.garrus]

Brass_B In my opinion, both Tali and Garrus will be re-romances in ME3. But I don't think that about Kaidan/Ash and Liara. Why? I believe Shepard will be important in the decision of the Flotilla against the geth, so Tali will need your support/ and love. And, definitively Shepard will have to go to Palaven for some important reason, so Garrus will need you too.



Am I too optimistic?

[Flammie]

Hmm, I could perhaps see reromancing happening in the case of rejection (but yeah, probably early on, because when you get to the point where you're supposed to be about to consummate the relationship, rejecting them would be too much), or maybe if you cheated, but I'm just not sure about there being able to be any romancing or such happening if you didn't start any involvment in previous games in ME3.

So, basically, I could see different things happening based on the romance plot, but only if you actually decided to get involved in it in previous games. I can see what you mean by waiting for two games to know Garrus and Tali, and I can actually see reromancing working from that perspective.

But, I'm sorry, but it kinda goes back to having many romance subplots and circumstances, it may end up being too much if you consider cheating, rejection and all of that. It can make sense, but will Bioware do all this work around the romance plot?

Modifié par Flammie, 24 avril 2010 - 09:32 .

[Ray Joel Oh]

zoe.garrus wrote...

Brass_B In my opinion, both Tali and Garrus will be re-romances in ME3. But I don't think that about Kaidan/Ash and Liara. Why? I believe Shepard will be important in the decision of the Flotilla against the geth, so Tali will need your support/ and love. And, definitively Shepard will have to go to Palaven for some important reason, so Garrus will need you too.

Am I too optimistic?

I'm wary after what they did with Ashley/Kaiden and Liara, even though I'm sure those guys will be back.  And at this point it'd be hard to think up any reasonable explanation for Garrus or Tali not to stick around.  It'd be nice if they are able to have their own side stories, especially since they're LIs, but I don't know, I don't know...

[janeym27]

@Flammie: Did you call for the thread drunkies? I can't speak for Kotori (who I'm sure is raising some kind of glass right now) but I have wine. Fizzy wine, no less! XD



I'd say it'll be pretty difficult to make all the LIs re-romanceble in ME3 without making the overall relationship shallower for those who romanced them in ME1/2 (well, not so much difficult, as "not cost effective from a vean counter point of view".lol). If the characters can be romanced from scratch in ME3, I'd hope that they can't quite get the same resolution as people who have been playing the scenario for multiple games. Not because I begrudge anyone trying something new, but because I feel like we deserve a payoff for carrying through. I'd say Kaiden/Ash or Liara would be more slotted in for new romance pathways than others, because they are all emotionally 2 years apart. The ME2 relationships are fresher. If that makes sense?



Wait - by reromance are we talking picking up with LIs you rejected, or starting a new romance from scratch?

[Cerrydd]

Flammie wrote...

But, I'm sorry, but it kinda goes back to having many romance subplots and circumstances, it may end up being too much if you consider cheating, rejection and all of that. It can make sense, but will Bioware do all this work around the romance plot?

They didn't give Garrus (and others) post-romance scene dialogue in ME2.

[Collider]

What exactly do we mean by re-romanceable? If you reject Garrus, doesn't Shepard say that she doesn't want to damage their friendship? That's pretty much the death of the relationship as far as I'm concerned. Garrus couldn't talk about sharing that night together.



If you mean not romancing Garrus at all, but still being able to romance him in ME3, that's a waste of resources, because Garrus would have to act like you never showed interest in ME2.

[kglaser]

blueL wrote...


I'll just leave it here.

HAHAHA Flammie you look so badass there
And Soltana your portrait there is great
blueL you never disappoint!

[Collider]

Another point about rejecting Tali or Garrus in the final scene...with Kaidan, Ashley, and Liara, it's not that big of a deal. They don't have to do anything special for intimacy. Garrus and Tali do. And they both worked hard to spend the night with Shepard. If Shepard rejects them after that, that's pretty much the death of the relationship as far as I'm concerned. This is a suicide mission, it's now or never.

[janeym27]

Collider wrote...

What exactly do we mean by re-romanceable? If you reject Garrus, doesn't Shepard say that she doesn't want to damage their friendship? That's pretty much the death of the relationship as far as I'm concerned. Garrus couldn't talk about sharing that night together.

If you mean not romancing Garrus at all, but still being able to romance him in ME3, that's a waste of resources, because Garrus would have to act like you never showed interest in ME2.

That was what confused me.

[Flammie]

Yeah, janeym27, we were talking about who was taking the bets for the Mascot-Villain battle, and I assumed it was you and Kotori. I also thought about a poll, but that wouldn't get very many votes, nor will it actually make sense.

Indeed, Cerrydd. The romance stories is fascinating, and so is the character interaction, but I think Bioware will be focusing more on the main mission. I'm not going to say they're going to leave romance behind in the dust and crappy, but it's not going to be as full flung. I don't think the Reapers are going to get destroyed by the super-ultra-amazing power of pink overflowing blasts of love.

...That makes me think of something. I'll get back to it.

I don't know what we mean by re-romance, actually. I meant starting it from scratch, but I also did bring up picking it up with rejection.

Modifié par Flammie, 24 avril 2010 - 09:43 .

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

I got the perfect solution. Don't be a ****** and reject garrus in the first place. lol

[Flammie]

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

I got the perfect solution. Don't be a ****** and reject garrus in the first place. lol

Yeah, but even some people do that, just to see how things play out. Bioware said ME3 will be the fruit of all your actions, so you know, "for science"

And, yes, I knew that was supposed to be humourous, but I just had to take it from a serious viewpoint.

[Collider]

Indeed, Cerrydd. The romance stories is fascinating, and so is the character interaction, but I think Bioware will be focusing more on the main mission. I'm not going to say they're going to leave romance behind in the dust and crappy, but it's not going to be as full flung. I don't think the Reapers are going to get destroyed by the super-ultra-amazing power of pink overflowing blasts of love.

I don't think anyone's suggesting that the games is going to be full of romance. Or if you mean that they aren't going to make two different romances per character, yea, I agree with you, that's unrealistic. I think what most of us want is at least as much romance content in ME3 as there was in ME1/ME2.

I don't know what we mean by re-romance, actually. I meant starting it from scratch, but I also did bring up picking it up with rejection.

Well like I said, with Liara, Ashley, and Kaidan, they don't need to do anything special for intimacy, all they need to do is be there. Garrus and Tali need to do things special because of the interspecies difficulties. With Liara, Ashley, and Kaidan, rejecting intimacy is more "not in the mood" or "this isn't the time," with Garrus and Tali it's basically "this isn't going to work." If it's not going to work before the suicide mission, it's probably not going to work ever.

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Flammie wrote...

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

I got the perfect solution. Don't be a ****** and reject garrus in the first place. lol

Yeah, but even some people do that, just to see how things play out. Bioware said ME3 will be the fruit of all your actions, so you know, "for science"

And, yes, I knew that was supposed to be humourous, but I just had to take it from a serious viewpoint.

Rejecting garrus is like kicking a puppy. I don't suppose people kick puppies "just to see what happens" do they?

but on a serious note yeah i understand, its just something i will never be able to do, even to just experiment. Just like how i will never be an ass to anyone to my teamates.

[zoe.garrus]

Ray Joel Oh wrote...

zoe.garrus wrote...

Brass_B In my opinion, both Tali and Garrus will be re-romances in ME3. But I don't think that about Kaidan/Ash and Liara. Why? I believe Shepard will be important in the decision of the Flotilla against the geth, so Tali will need your support/ and love. And, definitively Shepard will have to go to Palaven for some important reason, so Garrus will need you too.

Am I too optimistic?

I'm wary after what they did with Ashley/Kaiden and Liara, even though I'm sure those guys will be back.  And at this point it'd be hard to think up any reasonable explanation for Garrus or Tali not to stick around.  It'd be nice if they are able to have their own side stories, especially since they're LIs, but I don't know, I don't know...

But it's not the way it was in ME1. The romances then were... predictable. I don't know how to explain. For me, Tali and Garrus are the ''better'' characters, they have more stories around them, they are closest friends, someone Shepard can really trust,... They deserve better in ME3. And I think they'll have.
Kaidan/Ash... nah, It can't be. They prefer the Alliance more than Shepard. And Liara... she has changed. I think they won't be a LI anymore.

[Cerrydd]

In my opinion, ME3 should be about finishing the story, ending the Reaper threat and everything main mission related. The romances are part of Shep's life and should come to a conclusion in this last part. There were enough opportunities to start a relationship with someone in the first two games.

Romancing Garrus, Tali, or Jack after rejecting them in the ME2 romance scenes in ME3 should be impossible. You broke their hearts by rejecting them.