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[Evander]

Jackalope wrote...

Collider wrote...

I too think that meeting his father would be pretty cool. 

The thing is, I don't know what would better -- Papa V hating Shepard, or friggin' loving her.  Oh, the drama!

I guess that could be a scenario where your Paragoning/Renegading Garrus would have an influence on his "verdict"... I can't imagine that he'd be too fond of Shepard's influence in general, since it seemed to encourage Garrus to drop off the grid regardless, but her being committed to doing things properly (even when given carte blanche) and keeping his son centered would probably garner some appreciation, despite the fact that she's a human.

I'm hella interested in seeing what the apple's proximity is to the tree.

Edit:

... a child's assessment of the parent isn't always accurate.

Modifié par Evander, 29 avril 2010 - 02:45 .

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Well...i guess no one was interested in my story. Anyway onto garrus's father. I think at first he would dissaprove of shepard. But then when he gets the chance to actually sit down and talk with him/her a couple of times his views might change depending on how stubborn he is.



Ha...stubborn. Like father like son.

[Collider]

Evander wrote...

Jackalope wrote...

Collider wrote...

I too think that meeting his father would be pretty cool. 

The thing is, I don't know what would better -- Papa V hating Shepard, or friggin' loving her.  Oh, the drama!

I guess that could be a scenario where your Paragoning/Renegading Garrus would have an influence on his "verdict"... I can't imagine that he'd be too fond of Shepard's influence in general, since it seemed to encourage Garrus to drop off the grid regardless, but her being committed to doing things properly (even when given carte blanche) and keeping his son centered would probably garner some appreciation, despite the fact that she's a human.

Actually, that's not a bad idea. At first I thought his father would hate/dislike Shepard regardless because she is/was a Spectre. But since the paragon/renegading of Garrus hasn't changed much yet, maybe we'll see some changes in ME3, perhaps also including how his thinks of Garrus and your influence over him. Maybe paragon means he'll dislike you less (or even neutral/like you) and renegade he'd dislike you more.

[Evander]

I can only multitask so much, Titan of Tapioca. But since my portfolio isn't getting any more organized anyway...



It's nice to see the bromotional support running both ways (since Shep is evidently supposed to be able to work through his **** on his own, but that's the nature of the video game)... THE FANDOM DELIVERS. More than any of the other squad members, Garrus is capable of getting Shepard's angle, so it's very fitting. There isn't exactly cathartic symmetry between Shepard's anger over becoming anathema in the galactic community and Garrus's desire for revenge on Sidonis, but the frustration results from a feeling of powerlessness.



You can never have enough of Garrus having Shep's back. :')

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Evander wrote...

I can only multitask so much, Titan of Tapioca. But since my portfolio isn't getting any more organized anyway...

It's nice to see the bromotional support running both ways (since Shep is evidently supposed to be able to work through his **** on his own, but that's the nature of the video game)... THE FANDOM DELIVERS. More than any of the other squad members, Garrus is capable of getting Shepard's angle, so it's very fitting. There isn't exactly cathartic symmetry between Shepard's anger over becoming anathema in the galactic community and Garrus's desire for revenge on Sidonis, but the frustration results from a feeling of powerlessness.

You can never have enough of Garrus having Shep's back. :')

Thanks man, glad to see at least a couple people like it. I'll probably save the story and post it up again when there is more activity, and when the next garrus thread begins to emerge. Took me a while to write all that stuff too like a whole 2 hours lol.

[kglaser]

Evander wrote...

I'm managing to avoid Garrus in an attempt to romance Thane with my current Shep... it's such a strain that my strength of will in other aspects of my life right now has been drained.  And good luck with that... XD

As soon as I wrap up my Infiltrator/Garrusmancer playthrough without losing anyone in the suicide mission, I'm going to pick up where I left off with my Vanguard playthrough where I romance Thane.  *sigh* it IS hard, I have to keep telling myself it's just a game.  The last time I was playing I saved after Garrus's lloyalty mission, then just ran through the "reach and flexibility" conversation with Garrus just for fun.  When I had to reload and pick up with the Thane romance plan, I felt depressed and I think I just turned off the Xbox at that point.

[HardKorps]

@Mr.BlazenGlazen: cool story bro

Seriously though, it's great to see someone on the team asking Shepard about his problems for once.

[Evander]

kglaser wrote...

Evander wrote...

I'm managing to avoid Garrus in an attempt to romance Thane with my current Shep... it's such a strain that my strength of will in other aspects of my life right now has been drained.  And good luck with that... XD

As soon as I wrap up my Infiltrator/Garrusmancer playthrough without losing anyone in the suicide mission, I'm going to pick up where I left off with my Vanguard playthrough where I romance Thane.  *sigh* it IS hard, I have to keep telling myself it's just a game.  The last time I was playing I saved after Garrus's loyalty mission, then just ran through the "reach and flexibility" conversation with Garrus just for fun.  When I had to reload and pick up with the Thane romance plan, I felt depressed and I think I just turned off the Xbox at that point.

It IS depressing... just about broke my heart when I had my Sentinel suggest literal as opposed to euphemistic sparring. :C

Modifié par Evander, 29 avril 2010 - 03:32 .

[kglaser]

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

What do you guys think?

I really liked that!  Thank you for finishing it!

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

HardKorps wrote...

@Mr.BlazenGlazen: cool story bro

Seriously though, it's great to see someone on the team asking Shepard about his problems for once.

Thats what i kind of based it on. Shepard was running around making friends and listening to their problems, yet he has yet to release all of the deep emotions he/she had from the past. And if anyone was to ask about shepard's problems it would either be garrus, tali, or possibly thane. Everyone else doesn't really seem to be the type to care about shepard's past life.

Actually i take that back. I think kasumi and possibly jacob might even be interested in shepard's past life as well.

Modifié par Mr.BlazenGlazen, 29 avril 2010 - 03:35 .

[Brass_Buckles]

I can see Tali or Garrus, but not Thane. I also think Kasumi would listen to Femshep's problems (but not so much Mshep).



I still have a fanfic idea in mind about Garrus helping my main Shep deal with her issues about Torfan.

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Brass_Buckles wrote...

I can see Tali or Garrus, but not Thane. I also think Kasumi would listen to Femshep's problems (but not so much Mshep).

I still have a fanfic idea in mind about Garrus helping my main Shep deal with her issues about Torfan.

Why not thane? He is lonely, and considers you the only friend he had in the past ten years. I sure as hell wouldn't mind listening listening to shepard if he was the only friend i had left in the galaxy.

[Brass_Buckles]

Thane has so many problems of his own, I just can't see him being good at listening to someone else's. Or, rather, it would make me feel tremendously guilty to burden him with more than he's already dealing with. Seriously, he's a dying man. Do you want him even more depressed?

[Evander]

Collider wrote...

Evander wrote...

Jackalope wrote...

Collider wrote...

I too think that meeting his father would be pretty cool. 

The thing is, I don't know what would better -- Papa V hating Shepard, or friggin' loving her.  Oh, the drama!

I guess that could be a scenario where your Paragoning/Renegading Garrus would have an influence on his "verdict"... I can't imagine that he'd be too fond of Shepard's influence in general, since it seemed to encourage Garrus to drop off the grid regardless, but her being committed to doing things properly (even when given carte blanche) and keeping his son centered would probably garner some appreciation, despite the fact that she's a human.

Actually, that's not a bad idea. At first I thought his father would hate/dislike Shepard regardless because she is/was a Spectre. But since the paragon/renegading of Garrus hasn't changed much yet, maybe we'll see some changes in ME3, perhaps also including how his thinks of Garrus and your influence over him. Maybe paragon means he'll dislike you less (or even neutral/like you) and renegade he'd dislike you more.

I guess I can see how the outcome with Dr. Saleon/other dialogue in the first game might not have left too much of a dent, since as Garrus admitted later, it wasn't personal.  The loyalty mission in ME2 was personal, though... so unless Garrus is truly intractable, I think it's not unreasonable to expect some variation between how he acts if you talk him down or let him shoot Sidonis.

... I imagine that mandibles would drop regardless should Garrus introduce Femshep as his girlfriend, however... XD;

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Imagine garrus being right by shepard when his dad puts her on the spotlight. The tension would be incredibly intense.

[kglaser]

Brass_Buckles wrote...

Thane has so many problems of his own, I just can't see him being good at listening to someone else's. Or, rather, it would make me feel tremendously guilty to burden him with more than he's already dealing with. Seriously, he's a dying man. Do you want him even more depressed?

I know it's probably pathological, but a fairly widespread thing nonetheless:  I find that for myself (and several others I asked) that hearing about other peoples' problems actually makes me feel better about my own, for a time.  Now I can't say whether they would take my mind off DYING, but I think as escapist as I am I would probably be in denial as long as possible, and hearing other problems would be a way to avoid the issue.  Hopefully Thane is better at dealing with reality than myself, but you never know.

[Collider]

Evander wrote...

I can only multitask so much, Titan of Tapioca. But since my portfolio isn't getting any more organized anyway...

It's nice to see the bromotional support running both ways (since Shep is evidently supposed to be able to work through his **** on his own, but that's the nature of the video game)... THE FANDOM DELIVERS. More than any of the other squad members, Garrus is capable of getting Shepard's angle, so it's very fitting. There isn't exactly cathartic symmetry between Shepard's anger over becoming anathema in the galactic community and Garrus's desire for revenge on Sidonis, but the frustration results from a feeling of powerlessness.

You can never have enough of Garrus having Shep's back. :')

Wow, my thoughts exactly. Garrus' is Shepard's bro 4 lyfe. Mass Effect 3 wouldn't feel like Mass Effect without him. Or an awesome LI if you play as femshep.

[Collider]

Brass_Buckles wrote...

Thane has so many problems of his own, I just can't see him being good at listening to someone else's. Or, rather, it would make me feel tremendously guilty to burden him with more than he's already dealing with. Seriously, he's a dying man. Do you want him even more depressed?

I agree, I don't really see him as asking. Like you said, he's burdened and troubled enough about his son, his guilt, the fact that as far as we know he's going to die of a disease rather than old age. That's a lot for one person to think about.

[Collider]

I guess I can see how the outcome with Dr. Saleon/other dialogue in the first game might not have left too much of a dent, since as Garrus admitted later, it wasn't personal. The loyalty mission in ME2 was personal, though... so unless Garrus is truly intractable, I think it's not unreasonable to expect some variation between how he acts if you talk him down or let him shoot Sidonis.

Yea, I'm hoping for some variation, because at most we got like a few lines in ME2 changed only. I'm not sure how much I want Garrus to act differently, though. It's a tough question. Just want something more than what was in ME2.

... I imagine that mandibles would drop regardless should Garrus introduce Femshep as his girlfriend, however... XD;

Yea, definitely. Which brings me to another point. I want certain sidequests/missions to be spiced up if you bring your love interest along with you. That would include Garrus and his father if we ever get to meet him.

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Analyzing both friendships between garrus and thane. Thane would most likely be something like a therapist of a sort. Garrus seems like that one guy who will always have your back even in the crappiest moments of your life.

[Collider]

Yea, Garrus is the bro you can rely on to fight the Reapers.

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Collider wrote...

Yea, Garrus is the bro you can rely on to fight the Reapers.

If i was shepard and i had some issues that i wanted to share. I would share with garrus, thane, tali, and kasumi. The ultimate feel good bff therapist group in the galaxy.

[Collider]

Yea agree 100%. Those are some good people to talk to you if Shepard's having problems. You hear that Bioware? Friendship paths for ME3

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Collider wrote...

Yea agree 100%. Those are some good people to talk to you if Shepard's having problems. You hear that Bioware? Friendship paths for ME3

I support friendship chats with your best buddies in ME3! and in dlc if possible.

[Kotori Ky]

I could see Thane sitting and listening to Shepard's problems. He's a more experienced man... having had a family and so on. I think he'd actually enjoy it. He regrets not being there for his family in the past, and knowing the person he loves(if you romance him) feels that she can talk to him about her problems would make him feel better. I mean, he already probably is a bit guilty about loading HIS issues on her when she's got a universe to save already... (And in the play-through I romanced him, her past lover telling her she's a traitor and turning his back on her...) I could very easily see Thane sitting on the couch or the edge of Shepard's bed and holding her hand encouraging her to let him help, even if it would be just to listen.



I think Shepard and Garrus leaning on each other is a different kind of situation, simply because Thane has more experience in some areas than Garrus does. It's kind of an Apples and Oranges situation for me. I could see Shepard opening up to either of them, depending on her personality and their relationships.



Also, I want to see Papa Vakarian DISPROVING. Garrus is pretty adamant about how his father feels about the Specters. I mean, to the point of where he pushed his son away from the training. The only thing we aren't sure about is his feelings towards humans. I want a 'Son, I am disappointed' moment... with a chance to change his opinion with your choices.