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[aznsoisauce]

RiotLaFontaine wrote...

I've got a nice gift for anyone going back and playing Mass Effect 1. I never really liked the old Garrus face fix since it still used some very low-res textures. After a brief brainstorming session, I realized that Mass Effect 1 and 2 share the same texture layouts.

I present to all of you, for TexMod, the NEW and IMPROVED Garrus face fix:
http://rcpt.yousendi...7e45640b9865ebe

Remember that you need to run TexMod (it WILL work with Steam - took me a while and I can explain how to do so, if necessary) and have ME1 set to Ultra High textures.

So there you go. Garrus for ME1 PC using the Garrus from ME2 textures.

I ****ing love you.

Brass_Buckles wrote...

Hmmmm. Had a thought: You know how some of us had Garrus tell us to spare the Collector base, and others had him say to blow it up? I know someone said it's due to who you had with Shepard in that team, but I wondered if it might have to do with whether you made him paragon or renegade in your ME1 game. I let him kill Saleon, so despite coaching him to be paragon in ME2 and sparing Sidonis, he took the more renegade view.

It's just a theory, so if you spared Saleon and still got a "spare the base" or if you killed Saleon and got a "blow up the base," then my theory is totally off. I just thought it might be worth mentioning to see if the thought had any basis to it.

I dunno, the way the ending of ME2 works is pretty weird. I've had times where neither squad mate would comment, both would (one for, th other against), or just one would speak (so far for me, just Garrus would do that).

Either way, I get the feeling that Garrus is the only squad mate that genuinely doesn't care what you do with the base whereas everyone else wants you to blow it up. I'm assuming this based on post-game dialogue.

[onibontan]

aznsoisauce wrote...

Either way, I get the feeling that Garrus is the only squad mate that genuinely doesn't care what you do with the base whereas everyone else wants you to blow it up. I'm assuming this based on post-game dialogue.

It's not that he doesn't care, he trusts your judgement

[enormousmoonboots]

Brass_Buckles wrote...

Hmmmm. Had a thought: You know how some of us had Garrus tell us to spare the Collector base, and others had him say to blow it up? I know someone said it's due to who you had with Shepard in that team, but I wondered if it might have to do with whether you made him paragon or renegade in your ME1 game. I let him kill Saleon, so despite coaching him to be paragon in ME2 and sparing Sidonis, he took the more renegade view.

It's just a theory, so if you spared Saleon and still got a "spare the base" or if you killed Saleon and got a "blow up the base," then my theory is totally off. I just thought it might be worth mentioning to see if the thought had any basis to it.

Actually, I think it's because it's a very general line (something along the lines of "It would be a shame to let all these lives go to waste", IIRC? Tell me if you got anything different, and if anyone else has his exact words, all the better) and people are interpreting it differently; I took it like "It would be a shame to let all these lives go to waste by giving their sacrifice to a madman", and it seems others interpret it as "It would be a shame to let all these lives go to waste, let's give their mass grave to a madman". I cannot comprehend Garrus condoning Cerberus, so I took it as the former.

[Ms Cherissa]

Aris Ravenstar wrote...

Progress! ... Well, not a lot.

Wow! Just, wow!

[Girl in the Box]

Brass_Buckles wrote...

Hmmmm. Had a thought: You know how some of us had Garrus tell us to spare the Collector base, and others had him say to blow it up? I know someone said it's due to who you had with Shepard in that team, but I wondered if it might have to do with whether you made him paragon or renegade in your ME1 game. I let him kill Saleon, so despite coaching him to be paragon in ME2 and sparing Sidonis, he took the more renegade view.

It's just a theory, so if you spared Saleon and still got a "spare the base" or if you killed Saleon and got a "blow up the base," then my theory is totally off. I just thought it might be worth mentioning to see if the thought had any basis to it.

That would somewhat make sense for me. In ME1, I had him kill the doc. But I also stepped out of the way and let him take the shot, (which after reading alot on these boards, I now really regret and plan on replaying before ME3) The way the ending dialogue works (or doesn't) has me sooo confused. I don't think he'd really want me to keep the base....or would he? <_<

[Ms Cherissa]

RiotLaFontaine wrote...
I present to all of you, for TexMod, the NEW and IMPROVED Garrus face fix:
http://rcpt.yousendi...7e45640b9865ebe

So there you go. Garrus for ME1 PC using the Garrus from ME2 textures.

R0XX0RZ!

[aznsoisauce]

Honigkuchenpferd87 wrote...

aznsoisauce wrote...

Either way, I get the feeling that Garrus is the only squad mate that genuinely doesn't care what you do with the base whereas everyone else wants you to blow it up. I'm assuming this based on post-game dialogue.

It's not that he doesn't care, he trusts your judgement

Yeah...that's a better way to word it, lol. 

[onibontan]

Don't know if this has been discussed before but it kinda bugged me ... When you take Garrus with you on Omega for the first time after his recruitment, EDI tells you that the mercs believe that Archangel has been killed. I was like "Really, Bioware?!" That's lazy writing. I would've wanted a bit more believable explanation why we can take Garrus with us and are not immediately attacked by random mercs. Or maybe even a mission where you have to take care of this problem and fake his death.

What do you think?

Modifié par Honigkuchenpferd87, 26 février 2010 - 10:31 .

[Gar_Logan]

Honigkuchenpferd87 wrote...

Don't know if this has been discussed before but it kinda bugged me ... When you take Garrus with you on Omega for the first time after his recruitment, EDI tells you that the mercs believe that Archangel has been killed. I was like "Really, Bioware?!" That's lazy writing. I would've wanted a bit more believable explanation why we can take Garrus with us and are not immediately attacked by random mercs. Or maybe even a mission where you have to take care of this problem and fake his death.

What do you think?

Oh I don't know...the Turian took a gunship to the face. Not to mention some of the gangs must have seen Shepard and the squad get Garrus out of there(Though, this could go both ways. Probably saw half his face missing and assumed he'd die)...probably lots of his blood everywhere... I could see them thinking he's dead.

[Nightfire78]

enormousmoonboots wrote...

Brass_Buckles wrote...

Hmmmm. Had a thought: You know how some of us had Garrus tell us to spare the Collector base, and others had him say to blow it up? I know someone said it's due to who you had with Shepard in that team, but I wondered if it might have to do with whether you made him paragon or renegade in your ME1 game. I let him kill Saleon, so despite coaching him to be paragon in ME2 and sparing Sidonis, he took the more renegade view.

It's just a theory, so if you spared Saleon and still got a "spare the base" or if you killed Saleon and got a "blow up the base," then my theory is totally off. I just thought it might be worth mentioning to see if the thought had any basis to it.

Actually, I think it's because it's a very general line (something along the lines of "It would be a shame to let all these lives go to waste", IIRC? Tell me if you got anything different, and if anyone else has his exact words, all the better) and people are interpreting it differently; I took it like "It would be a shame to let all these lives go to waste by giving their sacrifice to a madman", and it seems others interpret it as "It would be a shame to let all these lives go to waste, let's give their mass grave to a madman". I cannot comprehend Garrus condoning Cerberus, so I took it as the former.

I have the same idea as you (about the line being open to different interpretation). Trying to get him to say it for exact wording is being a pain in the butt, though. Will try again this weekend when I have some time to mess with it. I have a save when I'm standing under the biotic bubble just before the end, so at least I don't have to replay too much. Just need to mess with convo choices and keep recording til I get it *sigh*... If/when I do, I'll post the convo/comment here for further in-depth analysis Of course, if anyone else beats me to it, I'm more than happy to not have to keep replaying the ending LOL

Edited for me thinking one sentence and then writing another resulting in a weird hybrid of both thoughts

Modifié par Nightfire78, 26 février 2010 - 10:39 .

[Brass_Buckles]

... Yeah, he probably looked dead to anyone who was still alive to see--or close enough to death that it was doubtful anyone could save him.



That said, has anyone else noticed the general turian tendency to wear those funny hats over their fringes in ME2? I've started to wonder if it's something more than just fashion, because certain turians--like the bartenders, for instance--seem to be more likely to wear those fringe-caps than others. Status symbol? Some sort of turian etiquette? Thoughts?

[onibontan]

Gar_Logan wrote...

Honigkuchenpferd87 wrote...

Don't know if this has been discussed before but it kinda bugged me ... When you take Garrus with you on Omega for the first time after his recruitment, EDI tells you that the mercs believe that Archangel has been killed. I was like "Really, Bioware?!" That's lazy writing. I would've wanted a bit more believable explanation why we can take Garrus with us and are not immediately attacked by random mercs. Or maybe even a mission where you have to take care of this problem and fake his death.

What do you think?

Oh I don't know...the Turian took a gunship to the face. Not to mention some of the gangs must have seen Shepard and the squad get Garrus out of there(Though, this could go both ways. Probably saw half his face missing and assumed he'd die)...probably lots of his blood everywhere... I could see them thinking he's dead.

Hm well maybe ... but a Turian with half his face blown off waltzing around on Omega just a few days after this is still kinda suspicious Just sayin' ...

[onibontan]

Brass_Buckles wrote...

... Yeah, he probably looked dead to anyone who was still alive to see--or close enough to death that it was doubtful anyone could save him.

That said, has anyone else noticed the general turian tendency to wear those funny hats over their fringes in ME2? I've started to wonder if it's something more than just fashion, because certain turians--like the bartenders, for instance--seem to be more likely to wear those fringe-caps than others. Status symbol? Some sort of turian etiquette? Thoughts?

No idea, really ... I just assumed they wore those caps like humans wear hats.

[AnotherStupidAccount]

@ Brass_Buckles



Considering the wide range of bizarre things humans will put on their heads with little or no provocation, I figured the turians were just making a fashion statement with the little caps. That being said, I'd love to visit a turian world just to hear the advertisements targeted to them. You know, like on Illium, where the ads targeted at asari would talk about "neuro-itch" and "gangly scalp" problems. What would it be for turians? Ads for fringe-polish?

[silentstephi]

So I'm going to be gone for most of the weekend, probably to come back to a billion more pages (Garrus love! ) and never catch up. Hope everyone has a good weekend!



I'll be semi working on my :flood the interwebs with HD screenies/Salarian skin tone DB:

[Reptilian Rob]

I'm truly worried for Garrus, and what is in store for him during ME3. During the events of ME2, he seemed more violent and detached from his usual self. I really hope he can pull it together for ME3, I don't want my ME BFF to bite the dust or turn into something he's not.

[Brass_Buckles]

AnotherStupidAccount wrote...

@ Brass_Buckles

Considering the wide range of bizarre things humans will put on their heads with little or no provocation, I figured the turians were just making a fashion statement with the little caps. That being said, I'd love to visit a turian world just to hear the advertisements targeted to them. You know, like on Illium, where the ads targeted at asari would talk about "neuro-itch" and "gangly scalp" problems. What would it be for turians? Ads for fringe-polish?

I just thought that with so many of them (possibly even most) wearing those silly-looking caps, it may be generally considered slightly rude/inappropriate/possibly seductive for a turian to show his/her fringe--clearly there are quite a few who do anyway, so it probably wouldn't be a major no-no or taboo or anything.  It could even mean something along the lines of, "if you're not wearing a cap, then you're looking for love."  I know, I know, it's an odd idea, and yet, wouldn't that explain Garrus's comment about complimenting a turian woman on her fringe?  (Note that he also shows up cap-free.)  That would be a rather hilarious bit of culture shock if it turned out to be true.

Example:

Shepard> So, wait.  By running around with your fringe uncovered, you're telling me that you're being, er, slightly seductive?
Garrus> Yeah.  I thought you knew.
Shepard> No, I did not know that.  And now I don't know if I should be embarrassed or pay more attention to you--or less, for that matter.
Garrus> That's your decision, Shepard--but,  let's face it:  I've always been a great-looking guy.  Good skin tone, great fringe...  Now I've got this awesome scar.  Any woman could see I'm a great catch--well, as long as she doesn't mind scars.
Shepard> I guess it's too late now to ask what exactly constitutes a good-looking turian to you.

Or, y'know, it could be a standard fashion thing--just to make the fringe area look better.  It's just that since that's apparently an area of interest for turians, it seems odd that they'd cover it up.

(And the good skin tone thing:  It's based on Mordin's comment if you don't romance anyone.  Garrus's skin is about the same color as Mordin's, if you look at his neck.  I imagine Garrus is supposed to be attractive... for a turian.  Myself?  I don't think he's hot.  Other turians?  Probably, if they aren't put off by that nasty scar.)

Edit: Re: Reptilian Bob:  Yeah, I'm kind of worried about, if Garrus survives, what will become of him.  In ME2 he seemed to be sounding more and more like Saren.  Vengeance was becoming more important to him than anything else.  To tell the truth, I was half-afraid he'd shoot Shepard if he/she did not move out of the way for him to shoot Sidonis.  He was always somewhat renegade in ME1, even if you coached him to be paragon.  Clearly events made him even more renegade in ME2.  With luck, he's learned his lesson about hot-headedness and its potential consequences.  Even if it doesn't turn him into a paragon, I'd like to see Garrus be a more cautious character in the future.

I wonder, though, if what we're seeing is Garrus being gradually groomed to be a villain in ME3.  I hope not, because clearly a lot of people like him.  While he'd make a totally awesome villain (seriously, I can see it), it would be so horrible to have to kill my Shepards' best friend and/or love interest.  Either way we'll be lucky if he gets more than a cameo in the first place.  I reserve further speculation until we start getting ME3 info in a couple years.

Modifié par Brass_Buckles, 26 février 2010 - 11:29 .

[AnotherStupidAccount]

@ Brass_Buckles



I agree that the fringe seems to be an area of interest for them, but maybe only for female turians? I don't remember any mention of male turians looking for compliments on it, though. Garrus says he'd compliment Shepard's fringe, but we don't get any idea of what SHE would be complimenting about HIM if she was turian. Maybe there's something else that would be complimented, the way women get admired for their, er, 'curves' and men get admired for broad shoulders. I guess we couldn't really know unless Bioware shows us some female turians.

[Brass_Buckles]

AnotherStupidAccount wrote...

@ Brass_Buckles

I agree that the fringe seems to be an area of interest for them, but maybe only for female turians? I don't remember any mention of male turians looking for compliments on it, though. Garrus says he'd compliment Shepard's fringe, but we don't get any idea of what SHE would be complimenting about HIM if she was turian. Maybe there's something else that would be complimented, the way women get admired for their, er, 'curves' and men get admired for broad shoulders. I guess we couldn't really know unless Bioware shows us some female turians.

This is true, but unless females have a more elaborate/larger fringe than males, it clearly has an analogue in males.  It's kind of like hair.  You could, if you are female, compliment a guy's hair without it being awkward, because guys still have hair and yes, they like to look good, too.  In fact, most men would really appreciate it if you were to tell them that they had great hair.  It certainly beats the alternative!  However, it's generally something people would associate more with women being complimented on--by men or by each other.

Aside from a Garrus-like skintone being attractive in turians (And who here is surprised that Garrus is supposed to be attractive for a turian?  Aren't most video game characters meant to be attractive, even if only to their own species?  Granted I reiterate I don't find him attractive except from an artistic standpoint, but I've mentioned to others off-forum that I imagined he was supposed to be quite attractive for his species.), we also know that it's apparently attractive for female turians to have a "supportive" waist.  I'm guessing that, while this most likely has something to do with reproduction (bearing offspring most likely), it also has to do with the fact that turians have large torsos and tend to have very small waists in comparison.  Evidently being more "balanced" in structure is desirable at least in females.

Modifié par Brass_Buckles, 26 février 2010 - 11:37 .

[Jaekahn]

Hey guys, I am currently writing a fanfiction of my female Shepard, who's love interest happens to be Garrus. The story revolves around Shepard's desperation to search and rescue a soldier she fought with on Elysium and though she tried to go alone, Garrus caught on and followed. There are currently 4 chapters and more to come. I would greatly appreciate some feedback, if you wouldn't mind.



http://social.biowar...9906/blog/2813/



Thanks in advance!

[AnotherStupidAccount]

@ Brass_Buckles



Well, I guess we'll have to see if Bioware will show us some female turians to be sure. I kind of wish Shepard had been given the option, after he makes the fringe comment, to ask him what she should be complimenting about him. Also, now I'm wondering what an UNsupportive waist would look like?



I'm not at all surprised that Garrus is considered an attractive example of his species. In fact, I kind of assumed that he was a bit of a player when he was younger (I imagine he has more than one of those "reach and flexibility stories), but had no serious relationships before Shepard. If he is normally a very suave and romantically successful guy, it just makes how nervous and awkward he is around Shepard that much more adorable--the nerves aren't just because of the species difference, but because this is the first encounter that really matters to him.

[Gerse1]

WRT turian attractiveness: That would be great in ME3 if we heard some NPC background dialogue discussing what's considered attractive between turians (perhaps you only get it if you are romancing Garrus), and it includes some of Garrus's features, like silver/grey skin, or blue eyes, etc., without coming right out and saying to the player "Garrus is an attractive turian." I also still love the idea of Garrus asking Joker (or whoever) whether Shepard is considered attractuve by human standards....aww....guess that would be kind of hard to do without Shep being present. Unless she walks in on the convo or something...I can see Garrus looking "caught" and stammering his way out of the room

[AnotherStupidAccount]

@ Gerse1



On overhearing conversations from the crew, I'd like to see Shepard be able to take advantage of all the bugs that Cerberus has planted around the ship. Especially when she's riding in the elevator between levels of the ship--instead of just seeing a loading screen, you could get the option to press a 'surveillance button' and listen in on conversations between various crew members around the ship. The conversations could change as new crew members came aboard, missions were accomplished, and after a LI was chosen. That'd be an awesome way to catch Garrus trying to make casual conversation about human standards of beauty, or to overhear crew members reacting to the romance as it develops. It'd also explain how the LIs always seem to know if you're romancing multiple people: they use the surveillance, too.

[Gerse1]

AnotherStupidAccount wrote...

@ Brass_Buckles

Well, I guess we'll have to see if Bioware will show us some female turians to be sure. I kind of wish Shepard had been given the option, after he makes the fringe comment, to ask him what she should be complimenting about him. Also, now I'm wondering what an UNsupportive waist would look like?

I'm not at all surprised that Garrus is considered an attractive example of his species. In fact, I kind of assumed that he was a bit of a player when he was younger (I imagine he has more than one of those "reach and flexibility stories), but had no serious relationships before Shepard. If he is normally a very suave and romantically successful guy, it just makes how nervous and awkward he is around Shepard that much more adorable--the nerves aren't just because of the species difference, but because this is the first encounter that really matters to him.

Yeah, earlier in the thread (or maybe it wasn't even in this one?) people were arguing over whether that female turian was his only other romantic encounter, but I highly doubt that.  People always say she and Shep are the only two because he's never mentioned others, and because "focuses on his work."  The fact that he's never mentioned others doesn't really suffice as evidence for me.  You can read between lines a little bit without destroying canon if you do it right.  Shepard hasn't talked about her past loves either, but I'm pretty sure she wasn't a virgin before Kaiden, lol. 

Although I feel like people are jumping to conclusions a little bit about Garrus definitely being "attractive" by turian standards based on something Mordin said (he said HIS skin tone was attractive to turians, and it's much lighter with oranges and reds/pinks, kind of the opposite of Garrus's cool colors imho.  But different turians probably have different tastes).  But it wouldn't surprise me if he (Garrus) was considered handsome.  He's visually pleasing to my eyes anyway ^^.  Plus on top of that he's witty, and skillful at what he does, and battle scars = tough survivor.  He's also a little bigger than other turians now it seems; but we don't know if that's a plus or minus to them. Hopefully we will learn more next time.  Anyway, yes the fact that Shepard is probably his first "serious" relationship makes it that much more warm and fuzzy.