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[Re_spawNZ7]

Cerrydd wrote...

Hurray, my laptop with internet and me are united again!

I didn't have any problem with femShep coming on 'too' strong, but that's just me. I could actually relate to her flirting, because that's something I do (or did, since I'm already taken ), even when I'm not really interested. That's why I flirted with all three LI's in my first PT, to the point that Thane and Jacob started whining about 'others' (Garrus). Conversations between Shep and Jacob almost made me gag though, because that was a little bit too much for me.

I like to chase someone else, but someone else hitting on me is a bit more tricky. I hate it when a random guy comes up to me and starts flirting. GTFO! But if it's someone I already know and like, then I'm ok with it. If Garrus was the one who really the romance thing, I'd be pleased. I already 'know' him from ME1 and he was already one of my favourites back then. But when I was playing DA the other day, and Zevran started talking about how beautiful I was... geez, GTFO!

But the build up could have been better in ME. You talk about Omega, do his loyalty mission, talk to him again, reach and flexibility and BAM, let's ease stress together. I don't mind it, but a bit more conversations would be nice. At least it gives you more conversations. And an actual sparring match would be priceless, for both femShep AND manShep.

The interaction between squad mates in DA is sublime. Wynne asking Alistair what he could see in my swaying hips? LOL! I hope BW will put some of these elements in ME3, because I would love to hear some acknowledgement from other team members about the Garrus romance. Mordin knows about you and your LI, and when you are flirting with more than 1 LI, the other one knows about it. Yet no one else in your crew says anything about it... (except Kasumi, but she's always positive)

Oh yeah, and you can kiss Alistair whenever you want? Damn, I want a headbump option for Garrus!

Totally agree with you Cerrydd
I know that DA:O and romanciing Alistair probably spoilt me a little. I had really hoped that this formula would be carried over to ME2. The progression of the romance with Al was great - and growing comments from the team were priceless. I would find places that random dialogue would trigger and run back and forth giggling at their quips. Kasumi was a good addition in ME2 just to get a little of that in there...but, selfish that I am, I want more. DLC , Bioware...DLC!
Just on the topic of Garrus and Thane romances: the time put into Thane was great and I would have been happy if they had at least matched that amount of buildup with Garrus. Just got Thane to the end scene last night and I was kind of curious as to the difference in how Shep relates to him. Is it just me, or does Shep in the Garrus romance come off a little hard? With Thane is is almost a gentle, mutual, mature respect but with Garrus (after seeing Thane ending) I went back and watched headbump and thought she came across as a little...well...mean(ish). Even the paragon move is kind of condesending..."consider me seduced smooth talker..."  Geez, the guy goes to all this effort, is obviously nervous (and I can't imagine he normally would be - with Turian females) and she shoots him down slightly...I  think there should have been a slightly softer option in dialogue.  Meh, maybe that is just me.
Sorry about the wall of rambling text.

[janeym27]

irene9876 wrote...

As it is, ME2 writes FemShep as the pursuer in the relationships.  Because of this, I rarely travel the LI path.

ME2 writes Shepard as the pursuer in the relationships. There is a difference.

 
I realise that there are a lot of people who feel more comfortable with men and women retaining their conventional social roles as regards courtship, but I am not down with “Shepard is forward, therefore SHE is a ****, but HE is just cool”. Apart from anything else, it’s set in the 22nd century: I’d like to think that by then we’ll be on a more equal footing. The character of Shepard is fairly open to interpretation in the ME games, but not to the same degree as, say, the Grey Warden in DA. When RPing as Shepard we are projecting onto a base character. Bioware have said it themselves (although it was as a justification for not offering Bi or same-sex relationships, which was a bit of a cop-out since FemShep is clearly bi… Don’t throw Liara and Kelly into the pot then claim that bisexuality is OOC for Shepard, BW. Come on!) that Shepard is a ‘character’ themselves, not simply a projection for the gamer. Had a character come onto Shepard first, I’d have been cool with that as well (who doesn’t love to be pursued?), but only if it didn’t take them OOC. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: I do not think that Garrus would have ever made the first move. Nor Thane for that matter. Jacob may well have done in other circumstances, but he meets Shep when she is potentially quite venerable and so would have been sleazy for trying. Kaiden and Liara were able to express interest first because it was not OOC for them to do it as they did. And neither Thane nor Garrus (and certainly not Jacob) are exactly shy about it once it’s on the table. Garrus is awkward, yes, but think about what he stands to lose if it doesn’t work out.
 
I much preferred the ME2 romances to the ME1 ones. Even Jacob and his… whatever that was. I liked it much better than being glomped on by Liara every time I tried to talk to the girl.
 
But that’s me. Each to their own. As it stands, I’m glad that BW are making MaleShep and FemShep the same basic character regardless of gender (write the character, not the gender!). While I appreciate that his character doesn’t behave the way everybody would in those circumstances (myself included. I would NEVER hit on my best friend. No matter what the circumstances. Nor anyone I worked with. FemShep would), the moment they start changing the character’s base personality because of their gender, I’m going to feel betrayed. We get enough forced conformity IRL, at least let us have stereotype free possibilities in gaming. BW will never please everyone. At least this way they are displeasing people without reinforcing stereotypes. (this doesn't mean to say other characters shouldn't react to the different genders differently. That's an entirly seperate thing). Anyhoo, this is a debate with no winners.


 
I would have loved more Garrus flirtation as well, but they are so tight to begin with that the line between the banter and the flirting would have been blurry. I think that’s why she sort of has to spell it out for him that she’s interested. Moar Garrus dialogue in general, please.
 

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

Collider wrote...

As far as untapped ideas go, I think having some extra spice to the missions if you bring your LI along would be a grand idea. Say for instance you bring Garrus to the Palaven or something, may even meeting his dad. If you romanced Garrus, then maybe Garrus would defend Shepard with more conviction against his dad's criticisms. Or that reporter criticizes Shepard for being with an alien and you and your LI get to rebuke her. Stuff like that.

I've thought about that reporter as well.  That'd be an excellent place for some extra content for people with an alien LI.  Or that crazy Terra Firma party guy would be another.  Bioware doesn't have to rewrite the game to accommodate us, but simple little things (like the Mordin conversation or Kasumi's few lines) do wonders to make the romance seem genuine.  Another great thing in DAO were those party banters and how your other party members would talk about your romance choice.  Just sticking in a few extra lines does wonders in the nuance department. 

This.

EDIT: I didn't have time to read all the posts before I typed this out (teabreaks and such from work got in the way...) so I see I've been ninjaed hours before in soem of my points. lol. I'm not deleting because this took a lot of stealth typing to write, but also, apologies for repitition.

kglaser wrote...

Garrus's dad frowningly commenting on Garrus's and Femshep's relationship in ME3 would make my head asplode with happiness. Kablam!

Also this.

Modifié par janeym27, 03 mai 2010 - 11:46 .

[Flammie]

What is this Leiliana bug?

And, I haven't really thought much about Shepard being forward, actually. It does seem a bit out of nowhere and forward when she comes onto Garrus, but I didn't think too much of it.

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

Alright we need to do something, this thread has became way to inactive for the past week. We need to try to get more active posters someone.

To be honest, I'm kinda fine with its laziness as it is. We still get a fair amount of good conversation.

Nivenus wrote...

Collider wrote...

Yay!

LOL, that's the purest emotional response I've ever seen from you, Collider. Happy we agree with you, I take it? [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/lol.png[/smilie]

I'm quite surprised, too. Apart from the occasional and from him, anyway.

Tootles FTW wrote...

As someone who fell into this
Leiliana trap, I have to say that it happens!  I didn't go out of my
way to talk to Leiliana because I found her "Maker this"/"Maker that"
schtick to be tedious, but following the Landsmeet (after my PC becomes
engaged to Alistair) she approached my character as if I had just
dumped her over him.  It even gave me the option to ask if we could
still be lovers & whatnot even though I'm with Alistair.  All I did
was agree with her that shoes were awesome & now we're lovers?!

.......Garrus penis!  ../../../images/forum/emoticons/lol.png

...I swore, Cerrydd was talking about how her bosses would Google her username. And you came up.

Cerrydd wrote...
I just hope future potential employers won't google my nickname.



It might be embarrassing.

Also,
that's a nice summary of my zoo story. I still want to show Garrus the
animals that live on earth. Unless they all went extinct in the future.

Hmm, that was you last time, it appears, and I even confirmed it with some backsearching...

By the by, Garrus phallus.

[Onyx Jaguar]

Garrus PENIS......... Aw yeah!



Also to answer a previous question, there are quite a few Japanese games (data sims and RPGs) that go more into depth in regards to relationships. However most of them (that have been localized anyway) are made strictly for a male audience.

[Re_spawNZ7]

One last little question before I dive off into bed: if you are romancing Garrus and then start romance with another character...does he get grumpy and ask you to choose? Sorry, random I know, but I haven't tried it yet...



NIght (or nite) all!

[Cerrydd]

Holy crap, I now call this page: The Page With Walls Of Text.

Rebe70 wrote...

Is it just me, or does Shep in the Garrus romance come off a little hard? With Thane is is almost a gentle, mutual, mature respect but with Garrus (after seeing Thane ending) I went back and watched headbump and thought she came across as a little...well...mean(ish). Even the paragon move is kind of condesending..."consider me seduced smooth talker..."  Geez, the guy goes to all this effort, is obviously nervous (and I can't imagine he normally would be - with Turian females) and she shoots him down slightly...I  think there should have been a slightly softer option in dialogue.  Meh, maybe that is just me.
Sorry about the wall of rambling text.

Yeah, I know what you mean. The way she delivers the line and the face she makes while saying that... She looks kind of annoyed. I told myself Shep didn't expect Garrus trying to be romantic and stuff, so she has no idea how to react. I wasn't flattered by the way she responded to his efforts. But her stroking his face made up for that. A little bit.

But I bet she didn't expect Garrus to become that emotional, talking about everything going wrong. Maybe she stepped in still expecting Garrus only wanting to blow off steam. In the conversations leading to the romance scene, nobody really mentions 'love', so there might have been some miscommunication. Garrus and Shep both probably expected to just ease tension having sex, while they both might have genuine feelings of 'caring' or 'love' for eachother. But because neither of them clearly states that this is more than just sex, they both expect some hot interspecies intercourse. In the romance scene, it becomes clear that there is more going on than just a 'fling', but that's only when Garrus opens up about everything going wrong and wanting something to go right. Before that, Shep tries to be the cool woman, ready to skip the pleasantries and jump him. Maybe that's why she reacted the way she did.

Heh. Does this post make any sense? Anyway, that's just how I see it.

Flammie wrote...

...I swore, Cerrydd was talking about how her bosses would Google her username.

Shall I tell you something? Someone DID google my name and came across an old weblog nobody should be able to read because I closed it. Apparently, they somehow read it, resulting in me not getting that internship. Which sucks . So I should be more careful.

Rebe70 wrote...

One last little question before I dive off into bed: if you are romancing Garrus and then start romance with
another character...does he get grumpy and ask you to choose? Sorry, random I know, but I haven't tried it yet...

Yes, he'll say he doesn't want to get into a stupid love triangle. To get this line, you'll have to fully romance Garrus first, then start flirting with someone else. (If I remember correctly... I haven't romanced any other male than Garrus since my first PT :happy:). And goodnight to you


Edit: Deltaboy made a new improved poll right here. Thread can be found here.

Modifié par Cerrydd, 03 mai 2010 - 12:39 .

[Neria Rose]

Chimervera wrote...

I never got the "Leliana bug", but I heard that it's caused by gifting her approval too high before talking to her. I always talk, then gift, then talk, so I never had that problem.

I did run into a bug where, even though I romanced Zevran, I got the "so you and Alistair..." talk from Leliana...and Morrigan. And Alistair giving me the rose. I didn't think I'd used any flirty dialogue, but I must have accidentally triggered it In subsequent playthroughs, I've had to be very careful of what dialogue options I pick.
(Also, am I the only Zev-mancer in this thread?)

Nope. I romanced Zevran once. He was actually my first romance, though Alistair was ultimately my favorite.

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Zevran's ending was absolutely adorable. I had meant to romance Alistair my first go, but I made him angry by having that little boy die (don't remember the names) and ultimately found Zevran easier for my elf. I held out hope that by the end of it, maybe Zevran would like her for more than just sex and I was sooo happily rewarded!

Also, Garrus!

[Timerider42]

Lol, drunk Garrus is awesome.

[LOLandStuff]

I've said this hundred of times by now regarding Shepard making the first move.

If I were a guy, Shepard wouldn't even exist on my list of "Last person to...", especially with her background. Besides the fear of rejection, the feeling of being so dumb as to try my luck with her won't let me sleep at night since it would hurt my no longer existent manly pride.

As much as I don't like Jacob, the guy was very careful and hesitant at first when you romance him. From the start he knew he wouldn't have a chance with Shepard. Miranda might be perfect but she's nothing compared to Shepard.

It's very hard approaching a woman like Shepard. From my personal experience, I always had to make the first move, if I waited I would turn into the Cat Lady. Some just believe they'll never have a chance and will immediately get rejected by just a shifty look or others don't even want to try because of their pride and to avoid humiliation.

But seriously, a woman holding guns, having things explode around her, saving the Citadel and returning from the dead? I just wonder how any guy would even consider trying wooing her.

[Sialater]

As far as femShep coming on too strong to Garrus: I see it this way.



He's your best friend. You kinda HAVE to be obvious about propositioning him. You can't be subtle or it wouldn't work.

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

I fell into the Leliana trap to, and it was one where I was trying to cheat the game, lost 15 hours of gameplay and haven't really tried it since.

DA did a decent job in regards to this, but overall I'd give Bioware a D in regards to how they do romances.

Eh, a D? Maybe a C. It was average but they could have done much more if they didn't half ass most of the romances.

[Onyx Jaguar]

I just don't like how Bioware assumes that you are going to romance someone in game, because that makes interaction a cluster**** really quickly.

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Onyx Jaguar wrote...

I just don't like how Bioware assumes that you are going to romance someone in game, because that makes interaction a cluster**** really quickly.

Yeah, i agree. Also i should play DA a little more. For some reason i find it hard to romance people in that game.

And well, bioware kind of assumed correctly that alot of their fanbase actually wanted to romance someone in the game, my problem is that it seemed to be rushed a little bit. Like if they did all the romances last minute.

[Flammie]

That pic's pretty awesome.

I think to get the love triangle conversation you have to romance someone other than the person you want to get a comment from "locked in" (I think it happens at the second or so romance conversation), and then try to romance someone else, who won't continue the relationship unless you break it up with the person "locked in", which is how I think you get Jacob's cuttlebone comment, by locking him in, trying to romance Garrus, and then breaking up with Jacob. I'm guessing, though.

Cerrydd wrote...

Flammie wrote...

...I swore, Cerrydd was talking about how her bosses would Google her username.

Shall I tell you something? Someone DID google my name and came across an old weblog nobody should be able to read because I closed it. Apparently, they somehow read it, resulting in me not getting that internship. Which sucks . So I should be more careful.

Oh wow... that really sucks... so what you were afraid of happening in a jokey kind of way actually did happen...

Modifié par Flammie, 03 mai 2010 - 02:59 .

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Ah...that kind of sucks. Well maybe you should try to change your username so when they do google your nickname some of the crazy stuff posted here wouldn't show up.

[Sialater]

aynxalot wrote...

Cerrydd wrote...

Holy crap, I now call this page: The Page With Walls Of Text.

Yeah, I know what you mean. The way she delivers the line and the face she makes while saying that... She looks kind of annoyed. I told myself Shep didn't expect Garrus trying to be romantic and stuff, so she has no idea how to react. I wasn't flattered by the way she responded to his efforts. But her stroking his face made up for that. A little bit.

But I bet she didn't expect Garrus to become that emotional, talking about everything going wrong. Maybe she stepped in still expecting Garrus only wanting to blow off steam. In the conversations leading to the romance scene, nobody really mentions 'love', so there might have been some miscommunication. Garrus and Shep both probably expected to just ease tension having sex, while they both might have genuine feelings of 'caring' or 'love' for eachother. But because neither of them clearly states that this is more than just sex, they both expect some hot interspecies intercourse. In the romance scene, it becomes clear that there is more going on than just a 'fling', but that's only when Garrus opens up about everything going wrong and wanting something to go right. Before that, Shep tries to be the cool woman, ready to skip the pleasantries and jump him. Maybe that's why she reacted the way she did.

Heh. Does this post make any sense? Anyway, that's just how I see it.

I agree- I try really hard to just enjoy what we get because, you know, that's what we get. But I do remember being put off a bit the first time I romanced Garrus because of how Shepard delivers *that* line. I thought about it, and after a while decided the line itself would have been okay given their history of banter and whatnot (obviously Garrus buys it), had it been delivered differently. Jennifer Hale typically does an awesome job, but for some reason when it comes to the romances (*coughJacobcough*) her voice acting goes all weird. She's trying to sound sexy, I get it, but that doesn't jive with how I see her and Garrus' relationship progressing. Same as the "consider me seduced" line- if she'd said it in a more playful way, it may have worked. As it stands, I don't normally take that interrupt anymore.

I'm in the camp of being okay with Shep coming on to Garrus rather than the other way around- though I can't deny, I try really hard to read a lot of innuendo in his lines leading up to their romance convos. If he'd come on to her first, say half-jokingly, and given her the opportunity to either agree or turn him down, I'd have died from squee-ment. I can only hope after ME2 Garrus comes 'out of his shell' so to speak and is more comfortable flirting openly with Shep. And that Shep can flirt with him like a real person and not a cat in heat.

Well, the line when you first run into him about taking more than your shields down sounds awfully flirty to me.  I know he says the same damn thing to maleShep in the same damn tone, but it still sounds flirty when he says it to FemShep.

[janeym27]

Sialater wrote...

As far as femShep coming on too strong to Garrus: I see it this way.

He's your best friend. You kinda HAVE to be obvious about propositioning him. You can't be subtle or it wouldn't work.

This.

Also, the 'meaness': I see it as a continuation of their friendship dynamic. ("hell Garrus, you were always ugly", etc)  There is the potential for lots of awkwardness so she goes to place they are already both comfortable. It's like Garrus and his "interspeices awkwardness will make fighting the collectors a welcome distration" line. They are using their easy humerous banter as a way of lessening the pressure on the transition of their relationship. I think that's also why he gets so focused on the how-tos of the sex: it stops him from having to consider the emotional implications for their relationship.

[silentstephi]

This was just too funny not to share.

I just filed my FAFSA ( took the plunge to go back to school /nervous) and was looking up this EFC score doohickie, trying to figure out if 9150 was a crappy number or not...

And I came across this gem.

GARRUS WANTS ME TO GO BACK TO SCHOOL! XD

Hehe, ok, off to work /zooms

[Cerrydd]

aynxalot wrote...

I agree- I try really hard to just enjoy what we get because, you know, that's what we get.

YES. I am satisfied that we were at least able to romance Garrus. We, silly humans, always want moar, but I'm happy Garrus was a LI.

But I do remember being put off a bit the first time I romanced Garrus because of how Shepard delivers *that* line. I thought about it, and after a while decided the line itself would have been okay given their history of banter and whatnot (obviously Garrus buys it), had it been delivered differently. Jennifer Hale typically does an awesome job, but for some reason when it comes to the romances (*coughJacobcough*) her voice acting goes all weird. She's trying to sound sexy, I get it, but that doesn't jive with how I see her and Garrus' relationship progressing. Same as the "consider me seduced" line- if she'd said it in a more playful way, it may have worked. As it stands, I don't normally take that interrupt anymore.

Jennifer Hale does an awesome job, but I agree that in these romances it was a little off. Especially the "You're worrying too much. And talking too much"/"Now shut up and stop worrying" make femShep sound like she's pissed off. I have no idea what the voice director (or whoever tells the VA's how to deliver the lines) wanted, but it doesn't sound nice, sexy or playful at all. It sounds more like "Shut up before I change my mind about this", while there's already no way back.

[Sialater]

janeym27 wrote...

Sialater wrote...

As far as femShep coming on too strong to Garrus: I see it this way.

He's your best friend. You kinda HAVE to be obvious about propositioning him. You can't be subtle or it wouldn't work.

This.

Also, the 'meaness': I see it as a continuation of their friendship dynamic. ("hell Garrus, you were always ugly", etc)  There is the potential for lots of awkwardness so she goes to place they are already both comfortable. It's like Garrus and his "interspeices awkwardness will make fighting the collectors a welcome distration" line. They are using their easy humerous banter as a way of lessening the pressure on the transition of their relationship. I think that's also why he gets so focused on the how-tos of the sex: it stops him from having to consider the emotional implications for their relationship.

Well, neither of them do the emotional crap well, despite Shep quizzing everyone about their lives and issues.

[Nivenus]

janeym27 wrote...

irene9876 wrote...

As it is, ME2 writes FemShep as the pursuer in the relationships.  Because of this, I rarely travel the LI path.

ME2 writes Shepard as the pursuer in the relationships. There is a difference.

 
I realise that there are a lot of people who feel more comfortable with men and women retaining their conventional social roles as regards courtship, but I am not down with “Shepard is forward, therefore SHE is a ****, but HE is just cool”. Apart from anything else, it’s set in the 22nd century: I’d like to think that by then we’ll be on a more equal footing. The character of Shepard is fairly open to interpretation in the ME games, but not to the same degree as, say, the Grey Warden in DA. When RPing as Shepard we are projecting onto a base character. Bioware have said it themselves (although it was as a justification for not offering Bi or same-sex relationships, which was a bit of a cop-out since FemShep is clearly bi… Don’t throw Liara and Kelly into the pot then claim that bisexuality is OOC for Shepard, BW. Come on!) that Shepard is a ‘character’ themselves, not simply a projection for the gamer. Had a character come onto Shepard first, I’d have been cool with that as well (who doesn’t love to be pursued?), but only if it didn’t take them OOC. I’ve said it before and I’ll say it again: I do not think that Garrus would have ever made the first move. Nor Thane for that matter. Jacob may well have done in other circumstances, but he meets Shep when she is potentially quite venerable and so would have been sleazy for trying. Kaiden and Liara were able to express interest first because it was not OOC for them to do it as they did. And neither Thane nor Garrus (and certainly not Jacob) are exactly shy about it once it’s on the table. Garrus is awkward, yes, but think about what he stands to lose if it doesn’t work out.
 

I know this is what BioWare says and I think it's true to some extent, but I think you have to get perspectives for both male and female Shepard before you can say this conclusively.

For instance, in regards to the male LIs, I felt that it was very much (with the exception of Jack) the LIs themselves who initiated the romance. Depending on how you play Shepard, he might be completely unaware that Tali or Miranda are even interested. On my first playthrough I certainly started heading into awkward territory with Miranda (since I wasn't interested in going that way with her) as soon as I finished her loyalty mission. Similarly, I know that Tali is the one who comes on to you first, though she hides it behind a facade of sarcasm.

So I'm not sure the argument that Shepard comes on strongly to Garrus because Shepard is just sexually aggressive (not predatory, but simply, you know, eager) necessarily holds up upon examination of the male LIs.

[Kim Shepard]

My Shepard never takes the interrupt in Garrus' romance scene either. The sparring-related flirting didn't seem too out of character for her (no more than being rude to Liara in ME1 to prevent a romance), but calling a guy ugly and telling him to shut up is not something she would do if she's interested. o_o; She can joke around, but that just seems mean-spirited... like adding insult to injury. Actually, it's the kind of joke Evil Shepard would make.

@Chimervera: In my current DAO playthrough, I have a female Warden who will romance Zevran. I'm trying to get the political marriage to Alistair ending for this one. My last playthrough (male City Elf, the DAO version of the Shepard in my NG+ playthrough) had no romance - poor guy actually liked the girl he was engaged to.

[Cerrydd]

Kim Shepard wrote...

My Shepard never takes the interrupt in Garrus' romance scene either. The sparring-related flirting didn't seem too out of character for her (no more than being rude to Liara in ME1 to prevent a romance), but calling a guy ugly and telling him to shut up is not something she would do if she's interested. o_o; She can joke around, but that just seems mean-spirited... like adding insult to injury. Actually, it's the kind of joke Evil Shepard would make.

I think there's a big difference between Shep calling Garrus "ugly" and her telling him to "shut up". The "Hell Garrus, you were always ugly" line was delivered perfectly. You could really hear that femShep was joking around and Garrus also took it that way ("Ha - Don't make me laugh"). When she tells him to "shut up and stop worrying", the intonation is different. She sounds more frustrated and/or annoyed, there's nothing nice or playful about that comment because of the way she says it. FemShep's expression (or lack of expression) on her face isn't helping either. It probably wasn't femShep's intention to sound the way she did, because hey, we ARE Shepard .

But that's enough complaining about the romance scene for me. The scene is still awkward, funny and adorable. One poorly delivered line won't stop me from loving it.

[kglaser]

irene9876 wrote...

I agree. I like your idea.

Now it's really late and I can't really keep my thoughts together...

It was nice talking to you guys, though.

Same here.  I hope you will come back and talk to us some more.  You have some interesting things to say.