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[Kim Shepard]

kglaser wrote...

OK.  Where do I sign up to be a turian?  Genetically convert me naow.

I know my Shepards' response to this one. xD

Shepard #2: We can be turians? Why wasn't I told? I might have had a chance with Saren!
Shepard #1: Maybe... that's why you weren't told?

[silentstephi]

The line! So it's like the first ten seconds of the video (but I've been watching this scene over and over again!)



He's so cute /dreamy sigh



This is in reference to what Irene was talking about earlier!

XD

PS: Sorry for the semi choppy-ness. My PC is getting redonkulous on me. /kicks it.

[irene9876]

silentstephi wrote...

The line! So it's like the first ten seconds of the video (but I've been watching this scene over and over again!)

He's so cute /dreamy sigh

This is in reference to what Irene was talking about earlier!
XD
PS: Sorry for the semi choppy-ness. My PC is getting redonkulous on me. /kicks it.

Yep!  That's it!

And if you keep saying "goodbye" at the end it'll keep looping. 

[silentstephi]

Indeed it will.

I get goosebumps EVERY TIME I watch this video.

Every. Time.

Solid Falcon rules.

[Cerrydd]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

I think some will be sidelined.  I think there's a decent chance Jacob and Jack will vanish or be stuffed off in a corner due to amount of variability and lack of popularity.  Sadly, I think there is a chance with Thane as well given his sickness.  I very much hope Bioware pays attention to how popular Garrus is.  I think somewhat else says and I agree that he has the smallest hatedom of any character except maybe Mordin and Wrex.

He doesn't only have one of the smallest hatedoms, he's also a character that has nowhere else to go. I don't think BW will decide to write him out, but if they do, they'll have to think of a DAMN good reason for him to leave. Garrus fangirls and Garrus bromance fanboys will not be pleased.

As for the other LI's, I have no idea what they'll do with them. I expect to see everybody back in ME3, but you'll never know what BW will think of next.

Tali is someone who's been with you from the very beginning, just like Garrus. She's also the most favourite male LI among the fans. I don't see her returning to the Flotilla before ending the Reaper threat.

Miranda resigns when you decide to blow up the Collector base. She's also hard to kill in the SM, so I think she'll still be important in ME3.

Jack... I don't know. She's also someone who has nowhere else to go, but when you romanced her, she practically opens up and it might be longterm material.

Thane is dying, but the way ME2 ended, I get the feeling ME3 will start right there where we left ME2. He'll still be alive. Don't know if BW plans to find a cure, though. But I don't expect him to die from his disease before the end of ME3.

Jacob... errr...

I have no idea what to think of Ashley/Kaidan/Liara. I don't give a crap about the first two, but I hope they'll return in a better way then in ME2. I believe the ME1 got sidelined to keep them alive for a big role in ME3, but I have no idea how they'll exactly return in ME3. Shep isn't working for Cerberus anymore at the end of ME2, so Ash/Kai will probably be less reluctant to team up again. Liara obviously still cares for you, romanced or not, but she won't return before the Shadow Broker has been dealt with. That SB problem will probably be covered in DLC. I don't have a clue how BW will integrate the ME1 LI's in the story again. I guess we'll just have to wait.

In short: I think Garrus will be safe.

Gah... want ME3 NAO!

@ silentstephi: lol, I went to watch that vid, femShep comes up, and I think... WOW, she looks like silentstephi. Oh, wait, it IS silentstephi . I agree that the Broken Soldiers vid is awesome. I love it that she used both ME1 and 2 footage and edited it this way.

Time for bed... it's already way past my bedtime. AGAIN. Damn you Garrus thread. I love you.

[Collider]

Mass Effect would not be the same without Garrus. And like Cerry said, where else is he going to go? Back to Omega or C-sec when the Reapers are at large? Yea right. Garrus knows what the big picture is.

Anyways, agree with Cerry, all of the love interests seem like they will be coming back. If you bring back one, bring back them all IMO.

[Talifan]

Completely agree Cerry, Garrus is to the fangirls what Tali is is the fanboys, both of em are massive fan favorites and everyone was really happy to see them back, and their popularity absolutely skyrocketed when it was discovered they could be romanced since many fans had been disappointed that they couldn't be in the first ME. I myself can never bring myself to romance anyone other then them, and though I have saved games with staying faithful to Mass Effect 1 LI's, it was very hard to do that since I love both the characters so much.



To not include both Tali and Garrus would be suicide on Biowares part, the fan backlash would be massive and I can guarantee ME3 would not sell very well, then again it would hurt them to kill off Thane or other fan favorites, I for one would like to see all of them come back and recruitable again.

[kglaser]

Part of me worries I might be jinxing something (damned OCD!), but I think the chances of Garrus and Tali, as awesomely important to the ME universe as they are, getting sidelined or minimized in ME3 are just about zero.

[Aricle]

Cerrydd wrote...

And Garrus addiction is a good thing.
However, I do wonder how long everybody will stay active in this thread.

My internet access failed yesterday in the middle of a mission, and I have been so Garrus-deprived in every way. Now  I realize the addiction.

kglaser wrote...
Seriously...I don't even care
how this is going to sound, or the fact that it's been discussed,
probably myriad times:  The moment I had that conversation with Garrus
and found out he was romanceable was one of my greatest gaming
moments...Evar.

Unfortunately, I found out that Archangel was Garrus in advance but this surprise beat that; just chatting away and afraid of hitting that conversation loop (wanting to spread out the possible conversations but couldn't keep away) as in ME1... and wow. Kaidan? Faithfulness? What?

janeym27 wrote...
Nah. Saying you have an addiction to Garrus is like saying you have an addiction to oxygen. It's necessary!

Thank you.

[kglaser]

aynxalot wrote...

They've had plenty of chances to set Garrus up with an alternate "path" to go if he's not with Shepard, and they haven't. With Tali, they outright had her surname changed to "vas Normandy". Oh yeah. They're in for the long haul. And if not, someone's getting a SHEPARD PAUNCH.

And by that I mean there's at least $60 BW is not getting. More than that if I get the guts to buy the PC -and- XBox versions.

I can haz BioWarez shoved out teh windoe? "Kthxbai!" :innocent:

[silentstephi]

So, you guys remember oh a few hundred pages back when (I forget who) posted all those awesome Garrus sounds?



I've put the whole folder mixed in with my music.



It is making for some HILARIOUS "commercial breaks."

XD

[solid_falcon]

silentstephi wrote...

Indeed it will.
I get goosebumps EVERY TIME I watch this video.
Every. Time.
Solid Falcon rules.

Cerrydd wrote...

I agree that the Broken Soldiers vid is awesome. I love it that she used both ME1 and 2 footage and edited it this way.

These totally made my day! I'm glad so many people are enjoying the video! XD

[Lemonwizard]

kglaser wrote...

aynxalot wrote...

They've had plenty of chances to set Garrus up with an alternate "path" to go if he's not with Shepard, and they haven't. With Tali, they outright had her surname changed to "vas Normandy". Oh yeah. They're in for the long haul. And if not, someone's getting a SHEPARD PAUNCH.

And by that I mean there's at least $60 BW is not getting. More than that if I get the guts to buy the PC -and- XBox versions.

I can haz BioWarez shoved out teh windoe? "Kthxbai!" :innocent:

I've said before that having the second part of the game contain minimal main plot in favor of focusing on character development and then not using those characters in the third installment would be dumb.


Throwing out characters who have TWO games worth of character development would be even dumber.

[Re_spawNZ7]

We sooooo love your vid Solid Falcon<3<3<3

As I've said to you, I have it on my iPod so I get a Garrus fix when I am away from Clan V forum. Anytime you want to make more....   (hint, hint)

Hey, just looked at what they are releasing for DLC and blah!  I was all excited thinking ShadowBroker...and all that we are getting is an equipment pack. <_<  Really? All the begging for DLC dialogue and we get a new stinkin' visor?

I am disappoint but, even worse, Garrus is disappoint.

'Nuff said.

[kglaser]

I do trust BioWare enough not to be incredibly dumb.

One of the first things I told my 2 sons, when they were 6 or 7, was "if a game is from BioWare, it's not going to be junk...you want to watch that developer. They don't make huge mistakes. If it's a BioWare game, check it out. Mark my words." <---completely true, I actually did tell them that and my one son never forgot I said that.

So if they screw up ME3, my son is gonna run away crying like Carth in KOTOR when you go all dark side and order Zaalbaar to kill Mission: "Nooo! you told me BioWare didn't suck!! I know you're good...I KNOW it!!" /runs away flailing arms like Kermit the Frog



Seriously BW, I'm gonna look like a grade-A tool if you let down my son. Just don't do it. Please. o_o

[Collider]

Seems we will eventually be getting the Shadowbroker DLC though. Unless all those files in the game mean nothing.

[MarginalBeast]

Late response is late. Oh well. I missed all the srs bsns discussion so I'm doing it now. WALL OF TEXT TIME. No really.

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

In my opinion, i see a different garrus once you start romancing him. I mean that in a positive way, i just can't put my finger on what to call it.

Personally, I think he starts to act a little more like his ME1 self. Not completely, but a little.

In ME2, Garrus is a lot more friendly and charming, but I quite honestly think that some of his confidence (not all of it, but some of it) is just an act. Judging from the final romance scene, the incident on Omega and his past work on the Citadel quite clearly (and understandably) affected his self-esteem in a negative way. In ME1, he didn't have to put on a mask of over-confidence because he had nothing to hide. His personality is strikingly different in ME2, even Joker comments on it. In ME2, he's just doing whatever he can to cope with the complete crap he's had to deal with and trying not to be too terribly disappointed in himself. Sure, when you comment about his scars he just makes a joke, but I don't believe for a second that he isn't troubled every time he looks in a mirror. Those scars are a glaring, possibly permanent reminder of the horrors he went through on Omega. And he does mention having nightmares if you handle his loyalty mission a certain way.

So when the sensitive issue of a relationship comes up with FemShep (especially when he starts to think about it seriously), he falters and doesn't really know what to do. He may be amazingly skilled in combat, but not with women. Although he isn't a virgin, I highly doubt he's ever had a serious relationship before. For one thing there's the letter Dr. Michel sends which plainly states that he was always more interested in fighting injustice/getting **** done than anything and everything else, including finding girlfriends/picking up chicks at bars. Who'd want to be with him anyway? No offense, I love him as much as you guys, but he had a bit of a snobbish attitude in ME1. I think most women--turians especially--would rather go for a duty-bound "good turian" instead of a hothead that won't stop complaining about the red tape holding him down. Even if his attitude weren't overbearing, he's just too damn busy. At least it sure seemed that way to me when talking to him in ME1 (and ME2). I'd have a very hard time taking his rants about criminals seriously if he spent more time trying to get laid than actually going out and apprehending those criminals (he seemed too noble/serious for that anyway). And there are always, always bad people out there. He doesn't just fight injustice, he's obsessive about it. People don't call him space Batman/Punisher for nothing. You could say that he's only nervous and awkward because it's FemShep, but Thane isn't nervous or awkward. Jacob isn't nervous or awkward (apprehensive at first, yes, nervous no). Even Kaiden is calmer than Garrus. Even LIARA has more confidence, and she's Liara. Hell, I know it's a different game, but the Grey Warden is pretty amazing too and Zevran doesn't have problems casually making sex jokes with her even after he realizes his feelings for her. Garrus is just, when it comes down to it, a rather reserved person when he's not on the battlefield and thus probably not used to wooing women (besides, "Ladykiller in Love" is so overdone it's not even funny... I still like Zevran in spite of that, but it's true). His "I'll do some research and figure how to uh, you know.... Okay, that sounded bad." line still baffles me. Uh, hello, Garrus? We've been talking about sex this entire time and you're still afraid to just say it?

For another thing, there's that comment he made about Septimus. "This is pathetic. What could a woman do to put you in this state?" That's not something you say if you've ever been in love--or "like", really. Even when I played ME1 I thought it was incredibly naive of him to say that.

His knee-jerk reaction was positive (although he still seemed to need to convince himself), since he does act on impluse a lot, but by the next romance conversation things get more complicated. He probably knows deep down that he can't really hide behind a cocky attitude and expect to fool Shepard, but at the same time he isn't sure of how to be honest about his feelings, so he just kind of fumbles and his barriers slowly start to break down. Eventually in the last romance scene he opens up to her completely. Which makes it all the more touching, IMO.

So that's my take on his change of demeaner once you start romancing him. Feel free to disagree with it, but that's my interpretation and I'm sticking with it.

As a side note, I really wonder why Garrus is so focused on fighting injustice/helping others/etc. Either he really just takes after his father or something serious happened to him in the past. I suppose if that were true we'd have heard of it by now, but who has time to talk about personal history when there are calibrations to be done? Or maybe I just like analyzing characters way too much.

Modifié par MarginalBeast, 04 mai 2010 - 04:25 .

[Neria Rose]

kglaser wrote...

So if they screw up ME3, my son is gonna run away crying like Carth in KOTOR when you go all dark side and order Zaalbaar to kill Mission: "Nooo! you told me BioWare didn't suck!! I know you're good...I KNOW it!!" /runs away flailing arms like Kermit the Frog

Seriously BW, I'm gonna look like a grade-A tool if you let down my son. Just don't do it. Please. o_o

:lol: I'm dying over here, seriously imaging Carth like that (disclaimer: Carth is actually my favorite Bioware romance, holds a special place in my heart separate from all of the other romances, then Garrus and Alistair).

[kglaser]

MarginalBeast wrote...

/snipped excellent Garrus character analysis

Very intriguing...they really have the potential here to mature his character into something very special in the third game, if done right.  Good analysis.

[Lemonwizard]

kglaser wrote...

So if they screw up ME3, my son is gonna run away crying like Carth in KOTOR when you go all dark side and order Zaalbaar to kill Mission: "Nooo! you told me BioWare didn't suck!! I know you're good...I KNOW it!!" /runs away flailing arms like Kermit the Frog

Seriously BW, I'm gonna look like a grade-A tool if you let down my son. Just don't do it. Please. o_o

I've never actually finished a dark side playthrough of KotOR, does he actually do that?

[kglaser]

Neria Rose wrote...

kglaser wrote...

So if they screw up ME3, my son is gonna run away crying like Carth in KOTOR when you go all dark side and order Zaalbaar to kill Mission: "Nooo! you told me BioWare didn't suck!! I know you're good...I KNOW it!!" /runs away flailing arms like Kermit the Frog

Seriously BW, I'm gonna look like a grade-A tool if you let down my son. Just don't do it. Please. o_o

:lol: I'm dying over here, seriously imaging Carth like that (disclaimer: Carth is actually my favorite Bioware romance, holds a special place in my heart separate from all of the other romances, then Garrus and Alistair).

LOL!  I loved the Carth romance too.  It killed me to do that.  I reloaded and replayed HOURS of the game so I didn't end up doing that (to Carth, OR to Mission or Zaalbaar).  Damn you BW for your making-people-feel-stuff-juju-thing you do!! (and thank you for same)

[silentstephi]

kglaser wrote...

MarginalBeast wrote...

/snipped excellent Garrus character analysis

Very intriguing...they really have the potential here to mature his character into something very special in the third game, if done right.  Good analysis.

^This.

I couldn't sit down and think/write all that kinda stuff about Garrus.
I'll just sit here and stare at him until I go to bed.
Freaks the hub out something fierce.

And dang it, I should play KotOR... but ... Star Wars makes me /flump  (I'm also getting in a Dragon Age flump because of the change in party dynamics with DA:OA.  I want my Alistair back /sniffle.)

[kglaser]

Lemonwizard wrote...

kglaser wrote...

So if they screw up ME3, my son is gonna run away crying like Carth in KOTOR when you go all dark side and order Zaalbaar to kill Mission: "Nooo! you told me BioWare didn't suck!! I know you're good...I KNOW it!!" /runs away flailing arms like Kermit the Frog

Seriously BW, I'm gonna look like a grade-A tool if you let down my son. Just don't do it. Please. o_o

I've never actually finished a dark side playthrough of KotOR, does he actually do that?

Well, not Kermit exactly
But yeah, he runs off into the jungle or something, he's so distraught that you chose that path...then later on the Star Forge, he shows up one last time to appeal to your "good side"...and I stabbed him, presumably to death, so not sure how he showed up in KOTOR2 as "Admiral Onasi" as a cameo, durrrr....

But to appease Neria and anyone else who loves Carth (I do as well, he kicks Kaidan's butt from one mass relay to the next IMO), I reloaded and romanced him good and proper.
But I can't deny that I love Garrus even more.

*sigh etc*