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Garrus Love and Adoration v.2


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Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

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On a non-Garrus-related note (ha! I said Garrus there, you see what I did there), I just bought Dragon Age, so now I will know what the heck all of you are talking about with all of your DA references flying around. :P


I think your going to like alistar. Alot. All i am going to say.



I sorta gathered that from this thread alone. ;)
Can't wait to meet everyone!

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This.  Having to choose between Garrus and Alistair would make my head explode. 


Oh, my.  The mind boggles...hee hee, new BW game glee ensues /headsplosion

(I mean...REALLY?  worthy competition for GARRUS?  OK, I must admit I will need him to convince me.) :kissing:

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kglaser wrote...

(I mean...REALLY?  worthy competition for GARRUS?  OK, I must admit I will need him to convince me.) :kissing:


Alistair is cute and funny, but not as badass as Garrus... but I haven't finished DA myself yet, so maybe he still has some badassery in store for me. Sadly, this thread keeps me away from playing. :P

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Kglaser, if you're going to play the Alistair romance, you should be a human noble.

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Cerrydd wrote...

kglaser wrote...

(I mean...REALLY?  worthy competition for GARRUS?  OK, I must admit I will need him to convince me.) :kissing:


Alistair is cute and funny, but not as badass as Garrus... but I haven't finished DA myself yet, so maybe he still has some badassery in store for me. Sadly, this thread keeps me away from playing. :P


Well, they're completely different types.  I don't think you can compare them directly.  I just really like them both.  Alistair is not badass at all.  He's quite the opposite.

And yes, playing human noble is wise if you want Alistair or just don't make him do anything he doesn't want to do and you'll also be fine.

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Thanks for the tips, guys! :)

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Alistair is a badass in his own way, I think. Loghain, and how he approaches duty (think end game). He may be a flower compared to Garrus, but he's not a coward by any means.

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Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

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Also, I know this has probably been discussed before, but doesn't that also explain why he might have gone to Omega? Shooting criminals is nice and all but that is small-time compared to the Reapers. The whole Omega excursion is horribly fatalistic. I don't think it's a suicide run or anything, but it certainly smacks of "Since the Council is sending us all to hell in a hand-basket by ignoring the Reapers, I might as well take as many criminal scumbags with me as I can." It's really got the makings of a last harrah.


I'm still convinced he didn't simply set out for Omega. The timings are iffy. Anderson and TIM placine Garrus as having 'disappeared' only a couple of months after Shepards 'death', and Aria says he showed up on Omega 'a few' months ago. Eve nallowing for a generous definition of 'a few', we've still got at least a year unaccounted for. I like to think that in that time, Garrus was kicking-butt accross the univerese (making the galaxy a better place, doing what he could in uncertain times, etc) until he came to Omega, saw what was there, and decided it needed him most... ^_^


I agree, but when Aria says he first "showed up" a few months ago, I think that may also mean he was first "noticed" a few months ago.  Garrus is good, but it still takes a while to establish a base, muster a team, and get enough of a reputation that the locals start calling you Archangel.


Yeah. I've considered that. I thnk Aria is on the ball enough to account for thr beginnings of Archangel' reign. Even if he starts small, she's bound to notice the slew of dead mercs. I'd say even with him establishing himself, he still has several months of non-account.

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Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

Well, they're completely different types.  I don't think you can compare them directly.  I just really like them both.  Alistair is not badass at all.  He's quite the opposite.

And yes, playing human noble is wise if you want Alistair or just don't make him do anything he doesn't want to do and you'll also be fine.


Yeah, they're very different, but they have one thing in common: sense of humour and awkwardness (edit: oh hey, that's two things. Don't look at me like that, it's 3 AM). That's a plus for both of them.

And I am an elf. Boooo. (yeah, I spoiled the ending a little bit when I was playing. But I didn't read all of it. *is proud of herself*

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Seriously, I have like noooo idea what you are all talking about. This is gonna be fun! :D

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Cerrydd wrote...

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

Well, they're completely different types.  I don't think you can compare them directly.  I just really like them both.  Alistair is not badass at all.  He's quite the opposite.

And yes, playing human noble is wise if you want Alistair or just don't make him do anything he doesn't want to do and you'll also be fine.


Yeah, they're very different, but they have one thing in common: sense of humour and awkwardness. That's a plus for both of them.

And I am an elf. Boooo. (yeah, I spoiled the ending a little bit when I was playing. But I didn't read all of it. *is proud of herself*


Having audible chocolate voices doesn't hurt either though.

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I hope you don't mind me poking in for a bit?

Reading the discussion on why Garrus went to Omega kind of got me thinking...There's a lot that Garrus and Warden Kuril have in common (except that Garrus isn't corrupt).  Both worked in law enforcement.  Both were frustrated with the red tape and seeing criminals get away.  Both left to solve the problem in their own way in the Terminus Systems.  IIRC, Garrus even approves of the premise Purgatory was founded on.  Do you suppose Garrus might have eventually become another Warden Kuril had he never met Shepherd?

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Seriously, I have like noooo idea what you are all talking about. This is gonna be fun! :D

 Elf, noble, whatever, the secret to Alistair is as I said don't make him do anything he doesn't want to do and you'll be fine.  Eh,  our vague hints are probably hurting more than helping.  I'll shut up now.

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irene9876 wrote...

Hi everyone Image IPB

I hope you don't mind me poking in for a bit?

Reading the discussion on why Garrus went to Omega kind of got me thinking...There's a lot that Garrus and Warden Kuril have in common (except that Garrus isn't corrupt).  Both worked in law enforcement.  Both were frustrated with the red tape and seeing criminals get away.  Both left to solve the problem in their own way in the Terminus Systems.  IIRC, Garrus even approves of the premise Purgatory was founded on.  Do you suppose Garrus might have eventually become another Warden Kuril had he never met Shepherd?

No I don't think so. Kuril basically tried to kill Shepard because there was a price on his/her head, correct? That's not something Garrus would do. He was clearly inspired by Shepard, but I don't think he'd go down Kuril's path.

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irene9876 wrote...

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I hope you don't mind me poking in for a bit?

Reading the discussion on why Garrus went to Omega kind of got me thinking...There's a lot that Garrus and Warden Kuril have in common (except that Garrus isn't corrupt).  Both worked in law enforcement.  Both were frustrated with the red tape and seeing criminals get away.  Both left to solve the problem in their own way in the Terminus Systems.  IIRC, Garrus even approves of the premise Purgatory was founded on.  Do you suppose Garrus might have eventually become another Warden Kuril had he never met Shepherd?

No, I think he would have been killed by the mercs on Omega. Garrus dosen't have good leadership skills.

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Hi everyone Image IPB

I hope you don't mind me poking in for a bit?

Reading the discussion on why Garrus went to Omega kind of got me thinking...There's a lot that Garrus and Warden Kuril have in common (except that Garrus isn't corrupt).  Both worked in law enforcement.  Both were frustrated with the red tape and seeing criminals get away.  Both left to solve the problem in their own way in the Terminus Systems.  IIRC, Garrus even approves of the premise Purgatory was founded on.  Do you suppose Garrus might have eventually become another Warden Kuril had he never met Shepherd?


I don't think so because I think Kuril was just using all that noble rhetoric to hide his slave-trading operation.  He may have lied enough to convince even himself, but he was no saint.  "I could have sold you and lived like a king!"  Why would he sell Shepard?  She's not a criminal.  Even Garrus calls it for what it is "So it's an extortion racket?" he says if you bring him along.

I think Garrus would actually execute a lot of those guys out of hand honestly.  They can't hurt anybody if they're dead.  Garrus is definitely a pro-death sentence type.

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No, I think he would have been killed by the mercs on Omega. Garrus dosen't have good leadership skills.

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Collider wrote...

irene9876 wrote...

Hi everyone Image IPB

I hope you don't mind me poking in for a bit?

Reading the discussion on why Garrus went to Omega kind of got me thinking...There's a lot that Garrus and Warden Kuril have in common (except that Garrus isn't corrupt).  Both worked in law enforcement.  Both were frustrated with the red tape and seeing criminals get away.  Both left to solve the problem in their own way in the Terminus Systems.  IIRC, Garrus even approves of the premise Purgatory was founded on.  Do you suppose Garrus might have eventually become another Warden Kuril had he never met Shepherd?

No I don't think so. Kuril basically tried to kill Shepard because there was a price on his/her head, correct? That's not something Garrus would do. He was clearly inspired by Shepard, but I don't think he'd go down Kuril's path.


I agree Garrus wouldn't now.  I also don't think Kuril started corrupt either.  I think he probably established Purgatory with good intentions, but little by little he changed.

eta:  Maybe I'm looking too deep into this, but I guess I saw some parallels that stuck out to me.  In ME1 we find out Garrus' dad didn't want him to become a spectre because of the possibility to become corrupt like Saren.  So Garrus went c-sec.  Now we see a corrupted former law enforcement guy (voiced by the same VA as Saren).

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irene9876 wrote...

Hi everyone Image IPB

I hope you don't mind me poking in for a bit?

Reading the discussion on why Garrus went to Omega kind of got me thinking...There's a lot that Garrus and Warden Kuril have in common (except that Garrus isn't corrupt).  Both worked in law enforcement.  Both were frustrated with the red tape and seeing criminals get away.  Both left to solve the problem in their own way in the Terminus Systems.  IIRC, Garrus even approves of the premise Purgatory was founded on.  Do you suppose Garrus might have eventually become another Warden Kuril had he never met Shepherd?

No, I think he would have been killed by the mercs on Omega. Garrus dosen't have good leadership skills.


Um, the only way the mercs could get his squad was to lure him away plus he's a good squad leader in the suicide mission and the only one inspiring enough that no one protests.  Even Miranda acknowleges "well, at least he knows what he's doing."  Having people on your team die doesn't automatically make you a bad leader.  Um, Virmire? Or how about Shep's ships getting blown to pieces and her getting spaced?  It's not because she's a bad leader.   Sometimes the odds are just too high no matter how good you are.

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irene9876 wrote...

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Of course not. This thread is open 24/7 ^_^

Reading the discussion on why Garrus went to Omega kind of got me thinking...There's a lot that Garrus and Warden Kuril have in common (except that Garrus isn't corrupt).  Both worked in law enforcement.  Both were frustrated with the red tape and seeing criminals get away.  Both left to solve the problem in their own way in the Terminus Systems.  IIRC, Garrus even approves of the premise Purgatory was founded on.  Do you suppose Garrus might have eventually become another Warden Kuril had he never met Shepherd?


No, I don't think Garrus could be another Kuril. He's obsessive about fighting injustice, but he won't cross his borders. The original purpose of Purgatory is probably something Garrus would approve of, but the implementation is... bad. Torture, selling people, even trying to sell someone like Shepard... no. I don't think Garrus would ever swing that way if he never met Shepard, no matter how frustrating the red tape is.

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Garrus not being a good leader...that's ridiculous. He beats himself up about Sidonis, but that wasn't actually his fault. Under Garrus' leadership plenty of corrupt mercenaries were put to justice. And as Raga said, he's an awesome team leader for the suicide mission. I always make him the team leaders. Like I heard in this threat, he sounds pretty content with having that honor.

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Heyo! Wanted to give a bump for my bro Garrus!

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irene9876 wrote...

Hi everyone Image IPB

I hope you don't mind me poking in for a bit?

Reading the discussion on why Garrus went to Omega kind of got me thinking...There's a lot that Garrus and Warden Kuril have in common (except that Garrus isn't corrupt).  Both worked in law enforcement.  Both were frustrated with the red tape and seeing criminals get away.  Both left to solve the problem in their own way in the Terminus Systems.  IIRC, Garrus even approves of the premise Purgatory was founded on.  Do you suppose Garrus might have eventually become another Warden Kuril had he never met Shepherd?


Hi there, of course we don't mind!  Glad you are here :D
I can't stand the thought of Garrus turning into another Kuril...but, I don't suppose I would ever be able to answer what might have eventually become of him.  I *like* to think he's better than that, though.

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Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

Um, the only way the mercs could get his squad was to lure him away plus he's a good squad leader in the suicide mission and the only one inspiring enough that no one protests.  Even Miranda acknowleges "well, at least he knows what he's doing."  Having people on your team die doesn't automatically make you a bad leader.  Um, Virmire? Or how about Shep's ships getting blown to pieces and her getting spaced?  It's not because she's a bad leader.   Sometimes the odds are just too high no matter how good you are.

Leaving your squad and getting attacked by by a ship full of 6' foot mindless incect slaves are two diffrent things.

Garrus could have sent someone with Sidonis, because you don't leave your team with out there leader. Garrus should have preped his team for if there HQ got attacked, but he did not. He might be able to keep a team together in a firefight but other than that he can't lead.

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Heyo! Wanted to give a bump for my bro Garrus!


Awesome!  Brofist time.
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But what has happened to your avatar's nose?  You look like that guy from One Piece. LOL :P

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kglaser wrote...

justinnstuff wrote...

Heyo! Wanted to give a bump for my bro Garrus!


Awesome!  Brofist time.
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But what has happened to your avatar's nose?  You look like that guy from One Piece. LOL :P

That is what happens to Sheploo's nose when he cheats.