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[enormousmoonboots]

Kim Shepard wrote...

Collider wrote...

irene9876 wrote...

Kim Shepard wrote...

But then there's the thresher maw. >.>; I only managed to defeat it last time because my Sentinel had Stasis. 

Don't remind me of the thresher maws!  I hated exploring because I was always worried one would jump out at me .  It got so bad that I eventually only drove the Mako on the mountain ridges...

Yea, those were annoying in ME1. Getting killed in one hit because the Thresher Maw randomly jumped out of the ground right next to you and you didn't save in 40 minutes = not fun.

During my first playthrough, I was glad that wasn't a required mission, but then I found out it was Cerberus-related and this Shepard is a Sole Survivor. It'll be one of the last missions I get around to. I worked out a pretty good system last time with running and shooting... Maybe it'll work for my Vanguard too? I save really often now, but it's still annoying when the thresher maw jumps out of the ground directly under the Mako. D: Instant critical mission failure.

I had some difficulty with threshers when I first played ME1, but I got into a pretty good groove to deal with them, moving the Mako around just enough to dodge the acid while shooting it with the cannon. When I came back after playing some ME2, every single thresher maw I fought spawned directly under me. No matter how much speeding, strafing, repairing, and jump-jetting I did, it was RIGHT. THERE. Not kidding, four times in a row I got one-shotted by those Tremors rejects. It's like the game knew I hadn't been playing it.

Sand King wrote...

enormousmoonboots wrote...

BRB TAKING EVERY SINGLE TEAM MEMBER OUT FOR ICE CREAM

WHAT IF YOU GET ATTACKED? I DUNNO LOL

a+
leading there, shep

Best you could come up with[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/angry.png[/smilie]

The joke is that you're wrong.

[Sand King]

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

Yeah really, its not like shepard was any better, but in the end if you were smart enough you could get everyone back out alive. And with that being said sand king, that still doesn't explain  why he works so well in the suicide mission does it?

I never said that Garrus couldn't lead a fire team in a fire fight. What I said was that he is bad leader on the tacical side of things. He let his emotions to get in the way, got distracted easly, and set up his base where he has no escape routes. That seams like bad leadership skills to me.

[Sand King]

enormousmoonboots wrote...

The joke is that you're wrong.

This just in no one gives a flying **** about this any more. You like a ****ing idiot keep bring it up. 

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Sand King wrote...

enormousmoonboots wrote...

The joke is that you're wrong.

This just in no one gives a flying **** about this any more. You like a ****ing idiot keep bring it up. 

We don't need flaming in here buddy.

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Sand King wrote...

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

Yeah really, its not like shepard was any better, but in the end if you were smart enough you could get everyone back out alive. And with that being said sand king, that still doesn't explain  why he works so well in the suicide mission does it?

I never said that Garrus couldn't lead a fire team in a fire fight. What I said was that he is bad leader on the tacical side of things. He let his emotions to get in the way, got distracted easly, and set up his base where he has no escape routes. That seams like bad leadership skills to me.

With that logic he would have been a horrible fire team leader since he would let his emotions get the most of him rather then common sense.

[Sand King]

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

Sand King wrote...

enormousmoonboots wrote...

The joke is that you're wrong.

This just in no one gives a flying **** about this any more. You like a ****ing idiot keep bring it up. 

We don't need flaming in here buddy.

Not trying to "flame" but if people want to act like a jackass when some one gives an opinion that they don't agree with it can get frustrating smartass.

[Kim Shepard]

enormousmoonboots wrote...

I had some difficulty with threshers when I first played ME1, but I got into a pretty good groove to deal with them, moving the Mako around just enough to dodge the acid while shooting it with the cannon. When I came back after playing some ME2, every single thresher maw I fought spawned directly under me. No matter how much speeding, strafing, repairing, and jump-jetting I did, it was RIGHT. THERE. Not kidding, four times in a row I got one-shotted by those Tremors rejects. It's like the game knew I hadn't been playing it.

That might be bad news for me then. I haven't played ME1 since ME2 came out... three months ago? Hopefully the thresher maws haven't caught on yet. I had more trouble with ME1 thresher maws than any other enemy in both games.

enormousmoonboots wrote...

BRB TAKING EVERY SINGLE TEAM MEMBER OUT FOR ICE CREAM

WHAT IF YOU GET ATTACKED? I DUNNO LOL

a+ leading there, shep

Well, now I know where Shepard took the crew. xD I thought they were all floating around in space somewhere. But seriously, leaving the Normandy without anyone to defend it while possibly dangerous new tech is being installed was not one of Shepard's better ideas.

[Collider]

The prospect of getting ice cream for my squad just may be worth the crew getting abducted.

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Collider wrote...

The prospect of getting ice cream for my squad just may be worth the crew getting abducted.

Actually guys, i think shepard took his entire team out to see the big hit movie "Iron Man 2 (The 2185 edition)"

Maybe it was worth, maybe it wasn't

[Neria Rose]

enormousmoonboots wrote...

BRB TAKING EVERY SINGLE TEAM MEMBER OUT FOR ICE CREAM

WHAT IF YOU GET ATTACKED? I DUNNO LOL

a+ leading there, shep

ROFL! It's only worth it if it was DQ.

Modifié par Neria Rose, 05 mai 2010 - 05:54 .

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

CamoBadger wrote...

Possibly...Certainly better than the thought of leaving some of the team there and having them possibly get abducted too.

Shepard: Garrus, tali, thane, mordin.. You stay here and make sure everything goes according to planned.
 >=(

The collectors are going to find out what happens when they ****** me off!

[Kim Shepard]

Actually, that works perfectly for my current Shepard who purposely leaves the Cerberus crew to die.

EDI: Installing potentially dangerous Reaper tech, starting... now.
Shepard: Okay, guys - who wants ice cream? 
*20 minutes later, Shepard receives a message that the crew has been captured by the Collectors*
Shepard: Ah, it can wait. I want chocolate ice cream. With extra sprinkles.
*another 20 minutes later*
TIM: Shepard, how could you let this happen?
Shepard: ...I was hungry?

Modifié par Kim Shepard, 05 mai 2010 - 06:01 .

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Kim Shepard wrote...

Actually, that works perfectly for my current Shepard who purposely leaves the Cerberus crew to die.

EDI: Installing potentially dangerous Reaper tech, starting... now.
Shepard: Okay, guys - who wants ice cream? 
*20 minutes later, Shepard receives a message that the crew has been captured by the Collectors*
Shepard: Ah, it can wait. I want chocolate ice cream. With extra sprinkles.
*another 20 minutes later*
TIM: Shepard, how could you let this happen?
Shepard: ...I was hungry?

Miranda: Garrus was taking to damn long callibrating the ice cream machine!

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

CamoBadger wrote...

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

CamoBadger wrote...

Possibly...Certainly better than the thought of leaving some of the team there and having them possibly get abducted too.

Shepard: Garrus, tali, thane, mordin.. You stay here and make sure everything goes according to planned.
 >=(

The collectors are going to find out what happens when they ****** me off!

*plugs ears with fingers* Lalalalalalala can't hear you lalalalalala wouldn't happen lalalalalalalala

Of course it wouldn't. I would leave nice ass lady and the priiize behind. Who wants some dextro ice cream?!
Kasumi: What about me?
[Renegade interupt]
Asians don't eat ice cream.

+15 Renegade lul points

Modifié par Mr.BlazenGlazen, 05 mai 2010 - 06:14 .

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

CamoBadger wrote...

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

Of course it wouldn't. I would leave nice ass lady and the priiize behind. Who wants some dextro ice cream?!
Kasumi: What about me?
[Renegade interupt]
Asians don't eat ice cream.

+15 Renegade lul points

Oh don't be mean to Kasumi. She is awsome, not only does she like Tali, but she also saves a little girl from slavers.

Ok fine, i will give her rice ice cream. And yeah, kasumi is like one of my favorite characters and i am poed that she is just a DLC.

[irene9876]

Sand King wrote...

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

Yeah really, its not like shepard was any better, but in the end if you were smart enough you could get everyone back out alive. And with that being said sand king, that still doesn't explain  why he works so well in the suicide mission does it?

I never said that Garrus couldn't lead a fire team in a fire fight. What I said was that he is bad leader on the tacical side of things. He let his emotions to get in the way, got distracted easly, and set up his base where he has no escape routes. That seams like bad leadership skills to me.

By your own explanation, a Ruthless background Shepherd would be the definition of a bad leader.  At least Garrus didn't intentionally get his guys killed.  Hell, even a renegade ME2 Shepherd could be classified as a bad leader since s/he is sending his/her squad to their deaths (Suicide Mission) in order to get back at the Collectors.  But the game doesn't define Shepherd as such. 

Quite frankly, you'd be hard pressed to find any leader anywhere who hasn't made mistakes.

[Collider]

I don't think Garrus made a mistake. It was basically just one coward who sold out the whole team, that wasn't Garrus' fault, that was Sidonis' fault. Garrus is obviously a great leader - he managed to ****** off every major mercenary group on Omega with his uber team, and he's a swell leader in the suicide mission. Garrus FTW. Good bro for MShep, good LI for femShep =p

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Collider wrote...

I don't think Garrus made a mistake. It was basically just one coward who sold out the whole team, that wasn't Garrus' fault, that was Sidonis' fault. Garrus is obviously a great leader - he managed to ****** off every major mercenary group on Omega with his uber team, and he's a swell leader in the suicide mission. Garrus FTW. Good bro for MShep, good LI for femShep =p

That makes me wonder, what did those merc gangs do to get information out of sidonis. How far did they go? Did he have family that were held as hostages? Did they torture him until he gave up the info?

[the Neonpeony]

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...
Ok fine, i will give her rice ice cream. And yeah, kasumi is like one of my favorite characters and i am poed that she is just a DLC.

You know we have actually rice ice cream over here sesame seed is not spared either.

[Brass_Buckles]

Totally randomly changing the topic again here.



So I was thinking, and I realized, there seems to be a trend in the few turian relationships that we see in-game in ME1 and ME2.



Septimus was friends with Sha'ira (before he tried to become more than that and, if you convince him, he returns to being just friends). The turian-quarian pair at Illium are also friends. Garrus is Shepard's friend. We don't see any others that I can remember, but clearly there's a common thread here.



It makes me wonder if turians tend to only pursue romantic relationships with people they're already friends with. If so, then we've been looking at the Garrus-Shepard romance the wrong way in terms of "but he doesn't want to lose his friend." No, Shepard doesn't (and for her it may be an issue), but for Garrus, if turian culture actually does go in that direction, it would be more of a natural progression to become more than just friends with a person of the opposite gender whom he trusts, respects, and generally gets along well with.



When I thought about this, it somehow does make sense because the primary things Garrus seems to consider about Shepard in the first "flirt" are trust and respect--and not to mention friendship. Then the turians are a culture that's all about honor and the greater good. You're less likely to develop an unhealthy obsession over somebody you already know pretty well. In other words, you're less likely to be distracted from your job or to focus exclusively on that person when others may need your attention. Of course there'd still be issues when one of said friends did not in fact want a relationship with the other, but when you think about it--it makes sense. It's the kind of practical approach to love and romance that seems like the sort of thing turians would go for.



So, theory: Turians consider friendship sexy in the opposite gender.



Back on a previous topic, now:



Garrus apparently did very well tactically, especially since his dossier says he's a tactical genius. I don't think the problem is that he lacked leadership skills. He kept his team alive for a very long time--right up until he was betrayed and sent off after a target that wasn't there. In all honesty, he was smart to leave his team behind to watch the base.



The base itself did originally have other exits and entrances. The way I understood the setup, Garrus and his remaining squad members worked to seal these off after Sidonis betrayed them, trying to keep the mercenaries out and taking their chances on whether or not they'd be able to escape during a lull in the fighting. It's likely that the handful who were left resolved to go down fighting at that point because there weren't many left alive. I do not believe Garrus was particularly emotional about the situation until he started losing his squad. Yes, he's always been hotheaded, but after his recruitment mission, he's very clearly different than he was in ME1.



Basically, the fire team leaders are the people who are supposed to be the best leaders. The game considers Garrus to be a good leader, and I think the evidence supports that.

[enormousmoonboots]

They at least threatened his life, and I'd be seriously surprised if some kind of torture wasn't included in there--Sidonis certainly believed they were able to make good on their threats. I thought it wouldn't make sense for Garrus's crusaders to have family, but then you get the letter from someone's (living) wife, so that's also a definite possibility. It's kinda why I can't hate him too much, even for betraying Garrus--people always talk big about how they would never betray their friends, but it's a little arrogant to say that you would never ever succumb to torture. I can understand why he did what he did, even if his lack of faith is disturbing disappointing.

Modifié par enormousmoonboots, 05 mai 2010 - 06:42 .