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[Collider]

Lividity Jones wrote...

Collider wrote...

What exactly is an executor on the Citadel? Haven't played ME1 in a while.

Commisioner Gordon, basically.

[Lividity Jones]

Collider wrote...

Lividity Jones wrote...

Collider wrote...

What exactly is an executor on the Citadel? Haven't played ME1 in a while.

Commisioner Gordon, basically.

This stuff writes itself.

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Collider wrote...

Reposting because of new page:

Here are some other questions or topics for discussion:

a) Garrus' father - would he ever approve of Shepard being with his son? Only if Paragon, or never? Would whether Shepard accepted Spectrehood in ME2 have a factor?
How do you think Garrus would respond if his father disapproved of Shepard/the relationship/Garrus fighting alongside Shepard?
c) How do you think paragon or renegading Garrus will affect how he is in ME3? A little? A lot? How do you want it to play out?
d) Do you think we will be able to recruit races against the Reapers in ME3? Would do you think about that? Is it too much like Dragon Age?
e) Elevators or loading screens?
f) If you could have designed Garrus' DLC armor, how would you design it?

Garrus's father would dissaprove of shepard despite whether she is paragon or renegade. He doesn't approve of humans and does not approve of spectres. Though if he actually sat down and talked with him/her he may or may not change his mind.

Garrus would most likely lash out at his father...hes teh rebel.

Paragon would make garrus a good hearted person, even more likeable and loveable and still a badass. Renegade would make him a cold hearted killer but still a badass.

We don't know how me3 will play out.

I want the return of elevator conversations...in fact i want the return of random conversations!

You should be able to get different armor for garrus, like in me1

[Cerrydd]

Collider wrote...

c) How do you think paragon or renegading Garrus will affect how he is in ME3? A little? A lot? How do you want it to play out?

I have no idea how this will work out in ME3. I don't know what will happen in ME3, so I don't know in what kind of situations these paragon/renegade influences will show. I do hope BW will do something with this, because you've practically mentored him for 2 games.

d) Do you think we will be able to recruit races against the Reapers in ME3? Would do you think about that? Is it too much like Dragon Age?

I like the idea, but I haven't finished DA:O yet. Maybe it gets old when we have to do the same in ME3. Still, it kind of makes sense. You already started a little bit in ME2 (destroying/rewriting the geth, saving/destroying genophage cure, seeing Wrex/Wreave doing their jobs for the krogan, pushing for war/peace against the geth on the Flotilla... did I forget something?), so I think it would make sense if you finally recruit everyone to fight the Reapers. If they want to believe you, of course.

e) Elevators or loading screens?

Elevators, although I like the idea of mixing the two (loading screens in mission, elevators in hubs). The reason I liked the elevators is mainly the little conversations, but also because you see something happen while loading. Loading screens are too boring for me. Hearing team members chatting or a news report makes it more... lively. I wasn't active on the ME1 forums, so I had no idea that many people didn't like the elevators.

f) If you could have designed Garrus' DLC armor, how would you design it?

Pink. But I'm sure I'm the only one who wants that . Nah, as long as it has some blue in it I'm satisfied.

The father questions need more thought... (and I'm tired )

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

anyone here listen to any doom metal. Well i was exploring similar artists to katatonia, and i was listening to this song hold this woe while keeping garrus in mind. It almost brought a tear to my eye, since it has so much emotion to it.

[Mariquis]

Just finished another play-through of Garrus' recruitment with my infiltrator. Did anyone else feel that during this mission their shep was weirdly expressive? In my screenshots I found so many a-dork-able smiles and whatnot. Screenshots!

Spoiler

Didn't think much of this one until I noticed the asari stripper in the skintight lingerie had pulled out a giant gun from SOMEWHERE. For some reason I found this hilarious 








Garrus!

I loved this picture of him until I noticed the holy-****-so-creepy-exorcist-head-turn Fshep was pulling (also -- where are her pupils!)

I gotta say I just found this one weirdly pretty.

Sad Shep  


Opening cutscenes in the cocktail dress.  You have to wonder what Cerberus was thinking leaving her on the operating  table in a cocktail dress.  Hazards of importing a ME2 shep who just finished Kasumi's mission   I figured I had to include this last picture for... you know... posterior-ity (oh yes, I just went there).

Here's hoping I don't phenomenally break the page with my inability at forum posts. 

 

[irene9876]

Collider wrote...

Reposting because of new page:

Here are some other questions or topics for discussion:

a) Garrus' father - would he ever approve of Shepard being with his son? Only if Paragon, or never? Would whether Shepard accepted Spectrehood in ME2 have a factor?
How do you think Garrus would respond if his father disapproved of Shepard/the relationship/Garrus fighting alongside Shepard?
c) How do you think paragon or renegading Garrus will affect how he is in ME3? A little? A lot? How do you want it to play out?
d) Do you think we will be able to recruit races against the Reapers in ME3? Would do you think about that? Is it too much like Dragon Age?
e) Elevators or loading screens?
f) If you could have designed Garrus' DLC armor, how would you design it?

a) I don't know.  Garrus has been missing for a couple of years.  So much so that even TIM couldn't find him.  That could change his perspective.

I don't think Garrus would care too much.  He didn't seem to be too affected by any opinion of his dad's in ME1 (after he joined, that is).

c) I would expect some change in conversations...beyond that, I'm not sure.

d) I haven't played Dragon Age yet, so I can't compare.  Still, everything sure seems to be building up to that.

e) Elevators.  The party conversations need to come back.

f) I like his usual blue/black theme.

edit:  Forgot to answer d

Modifié par irene9876, 10 mai 2010 - 03:14 .

[kglaser]

Cerrydd wrote...

irene9876 wrote...

So it's worse than "Mountain Dew" I take it?  (at least I think I know the Mountain Dew reference)

No, the cupcake thing is completely innocent. Mountain Dew/Liquid Sugar is the only thing... ehh... not so innocent.

Actually, I remember otherwise...but I won't be part of this nuttiness...instead, who wants to congratulate Meche Shepard on attaining Spectre status?  Huzzah I say!!
And I was as rude to the Council as I could be.

[kglaser]

Deadeas wrote...

Collider wrote...

Deadeas wrote...
Question: Is Garrus' eyepiece/visor attached to him surgically or is it removable?

Probably removable...would be the most convenient that way.

Asked because it would explain why we never see him remove it or without it on, even during the romance scene.

I assumed Shepard removed it after that fade in the romance scene.  It would just be weird to leave it on during a romantic interlude IMO.

[WarlordFil]

I'm inclined--and this is my own fanon, not anything out of canon, just personal extrapolation--that turian colony tattoos are like nationalities on Earth.



If I went and got a job on the Citadel, I'd still be a Canadian (hey Bailey, your Sudbury's showing) even though I was there representing Humanity. So I imagine turians would keep their facial tattoos from whatever colony/area they were from--unless they had a good reason to remove them, whether that be fear that other species would react negatively to the dramatic face paint, or their colony NOT wanting the individual to represent them (could be for good reasons, ie, wanting the politician to view his duty as representing the species in general instead of one colony in particular, or bad reasons, ie, they kicked him out.)



I also wonder if turians BORN on the citadel would have colony markings at all, since they aren't from a turian world.

[Cerrydd]

Alright, Papa Vakarian...

Do we know what he thinks of humans? I'm not sure. It could be that he fought in the First Contact War, might be possible that he holds a grudge when it comes to humans. Maybe, maybe not... We do know that he hates Spectres because of the legal freedom they have. So, if you regained Spectre status, that's -1. However, his motto is "do it right or don't do it at all". Shepard gets things done, so that's +1. Papa Vakarian is a by-the-book man, so I think paragon/renegade might influence his opinion on you. I imagine Papa being an old, grumpy turian. Turians think protecting people is an important thing, so paragon might be a +1. Renegades get the job done, but a lot of people tend to die when they meet renegade Shepard. Probably a -1, but of course you're not going to tell about all the people you killed when you meet Papa.

Papa will not be pleased that Garrus left C-Sec and joined up with you. -100. But Shepard and his/her team is doing something right: protecting the galaxy from the Reapers. The rest of the galaxy probably still doesn't know the Reapers are coming, but Papa disapproving that Garrus is part of a team who's doing something to save the galaxy would be pretty weird. I don't think there are rules when it comes to fighting Reapers. I think Papa will be reluctant to meet Shepard at first, but I think there are possibilities to change his mind. Shepard might be a Spectre, but there are more important things to worry about than legal freedom.

Now, Papa's son dating a human Spectre... heh. I don't know how comman human-turian relationships are, but I think most species would prefer to keep relations within their own species (except asari). I don't know why, it's just a feeling. Besides, humans are pretty new in the intergalactic community. There's still some tension between humans and turians. I'm afraid Papa won't take this lightly. I think Garrus will really defend the relationship. There might even be a possibility that Garrus will start raging and throw out his frustrations. Papa blocked Garrus' first opportunity to become a Spectre, for example. "YOU NEVER APPROVE OF ANYTHING I DO, DAAAAAD! :crying::crying:". Drama ensues. Yeah, but we don't know much of his relation with his dad.

Ok, that's enough for now. That's my opinion, pure speculation of course . We'll probably never meet Papa Vakarian, but it's still fun to talk about.

[kglaser]

Collider wrote...

Here are some other questions or topics for discussion:

a) Garrus' father - would he ever approve of Shepard being with his son? Only if Paragon, or never? Would whether Shepard accepted Spectrehood in ME2 have a factor?
How do you think Garrus would respond if his father disapproved of Shepard/the relationship/Garrus fighting alongside Shepard?
c) How do you think paragon or renegading Garrus will affect how he is in ME3? A little? A lot? How do you want it to play out?
d) Do you think we will be able to recruit races against the Reapers in ME3? Would do you think about that? Is it too much like Dragon Age?
e) Elevators or loading screens?
f) If you could have designed Garrus' DLC armor, how would you design it?

Good ones Collider!
a) See my banner.
I think he'd fight for Shepard.  After all, even if they aren't romantically involved, Shepard stood up for Garrus when his own father wouldn't, so I'd see Garrus's loyalties with Shepard.  He trusts her/him.
c) I haven't the slightest idea, and I don't want it to be spoiled.
d) I don't know about this one.  And I just started Dragon Age today.  I'm like 30 seconds into it.
e) Elevators!!  I'm a weirdo anyway, I liked everything about ME1 including elevators, and I take them on purpose to hear the squadmates dialogue and news reports.  Plus, how cool is that groovy elevator music? j/k it's intentionally hideous
f) Let me get back to you on that one...his DLC armor has actually grown on me, although if I could pick something right now I'd opt for his loyalty armor but completely fixed.  I love that design.

[kglaser]

Cerrydd wrote...

It would be funny if we already met 'Papa Vakarian' without knowing it XD

@ Collider: I'll think about the new topics . Some have wall o' text potential.

THIS JUST IN:
Turian refund guy = BK.  Therefore, turian refund guy = Garrus's dad! ../../../images/forum/emoticons/surprised.png

(Haha.  I seely.)

[Cerrydd]

kglaser wrote...

Turian refund guy = BK.  Therefore, turian refund guy = Garrus's dad! ../../../images/forum/emoticons/surprised.png

(Haha.  I seely.)

So the old man decided to make some extra money... by ripping off humans.

Uh oh. Implications unpleasant.

[kglaser]

Mariquis, those were some sweet screenshots, esp. the one on which aynxalot commented (!) and the "ZOMG, neck!" pics. Thanks for posting

[Deadeas]

kglaser wrote...

Deadeas wrote...

Collider wrote...

Deadeas wrote...
Question: Is Garrus' eyepiece/visor attached to him surgically or is it removable?

Probably removable...would be the most convenient that way.

Asked because it would explain why we never see him remove it or without it on, even during the romance scene.

I assumed Shepard removed it after that fade in the romance scene.  It would just be weird to leave it on during a romantic interlude IMO.

The glow would be distracting.

[kglaser]

Deadeas wrote...

The glow would be distracting.

Oh dear, why did you have to go there?  Now my mind has gone straight into the gutter with that image. LOL

[Deadeas]

kglaser wrote...

Deadeas wrote...
The glow would be distracting.

Oh dear, why did you have to go there?  Now my mind has gone straight into the gutter with that image. LOL

I do what I can. 

[Pacifien]

Collider wrote...
Here are some other questions or topics for discussion:

a) Garrus' father - would he ever approve of Shepard being with his son? Only if Paragon, or never? Would whether Shepard accepted Spectrehood in ME2 have a factor?
How do you think Garrus would respond if his father disapproved of Shepard/the relationship/Garrus fighting alongside Shepard?
c) How do you think paragon or renegading Garrus will affect how he is in ME3? A little? A lot? How do you want it to play out?
d) Do you think we will be able to recruit races against the Reapers in ME3? Would do you think about that? Is it too much like Dragon Age?
e) Elevators or loading screens?
f) If you could have designed Garrus' DLC armor, how would you design it?

1. I think the question I'm more interested in is if Garrus's father approves of Garrus right now. Or even approved of Garrus while he was in C-Sec. I think Harkin called Garrus an idealistic hothead in ME1 -- I can see Papa Vakarian approving of the idealistic part and bristling at the hothead part. Certainly would have disapproved of his son leaving C-Sec. Might only show pride in his son (and approval for Shepard) after they save the galaxy. Until then, he is not amused.
2. Think Garrus has already demonstrated following through with his own path no matter what his father thinks. Might upset him a bit if the subject were brought up, but doesn't affect him otherwise.
3. Going the paragon or renegade route with Garrus in ME1 didn't really affect his plotline in ME2 other than dialogue, so not holding up much hope for decisions in ME2 affecting Garrus's personality in ME3. But this reminds me, my last playthrough I decided to not shoot the Krogans providing backup to the volus Fade decoy, only to have Garrus suggest that the Krogans find a new line of work. I was amused at the ME1 throwback to Shepard and the Chora's Den warehouse workers. See, now if you went paragon in ME1 and Garrus saw you do that, I think the renegade interrupt should have never popped up just to show you how Garrus was following your example.
4. Really depends on how the developers go about it. If we're talking going to the Quarians just to run some big mission for them before they consider helping you then... I've played that game and it's called Dragon Age. But say Shepard was researching various options to learn more/fight the Reapers -- take researching more about dark energy and Shepard goes to the Quarians to find out more about their results from Haestrom, and that in turn leads the Quarians to joining the battle - that is a more acceptable method of getting the Quarians into the battle. Not sure if I'm making sense on what the difference between those two scenarios happen to be....
    Like, going to the Quarians to ask for their aid and they're all "oh no, we've got this messy Admiralty succession thing going on that you have to fix first before we concentrate on an imminent threat to all organic existence." That scenario? Lame. And Dragon Age repeat. But going to the Quarians and asking "hey, whatever came of that dark energy research" and they're all "dude, Shepard, nearing a breakthrough, man, and it will totally help you with the Reapers, but you gotta do the obligatory mission to give us the final puzzle to the mystery..." That scenario? Decent.
5. Cleverly disguised loading scenes for ME3. I believe Mass Effect 2 had some of those. I think the elevator/loading screen switch was the developers misunderstanding the issue in Mass Effect 1, much as they misunderstood what made the Mako unpopular. The elevator sucked not because it was an elevator, but because it did little to disguise the loading time. Squad conversations helped, but the worst out of all the elevators was very likely the one on the Normandy where the time spent on the elevator far exceeded a realistic period as well as lacking any squadmates to distract you with dialogue. The loading screens in ME2 also fail at distracting you.
6. I think the Garrus DLC armor wasn't bad, but I much prefer blue tones on Garrus. Also, I'd rather redesign his bandaged face -- by removing the bandages and revealing the horrific scars underneath or revealing distinctly cybernetic replacements.

[Pacifien]

kglaser wrote...

Deadeas wrote...
The glow would be distracting.

Oh dear, why did you have to go there?  Now my mind has gone straight into the gutter with that image. LOL

I have decided the eyepiece has comic book x-ray vision and that Garrus has been undressing Shepard with it from the very moment they first met.

[Cerrydd]

Pacifien wrote...

I have decided the eyepiece has comic book x-ray vision and that Garrus has been undressing Shepard with it from the very moment they first met.

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