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[Cerrydd]

aynxalot wrote...

Maybe Garrus would rage.....or would have if he was still in his ME1 mindset. But since Omega and all that, I just feel he'd be more likely to give a little parting shot and walk off. Or maybe since Shep is the main character it'd go like this:

PapaV: "Garrus, a Spectre? A human Spectre? Now I know this is just to get back at me. I am disappoint. I have no son. Blah blah blah-"
Shepard: "Garrus, because I care about you, I'm going to do something for you that you can't do for yourself." *Gives PapaV the finger* "Okay, we're done here. Let's go."

If that would happen... big lol.

Anyway, yeah, I think you're right about that. Garrus 'matured' a lot. I think it'd be something like "shut up dad, I can make my own decisions".

And then Shepard and Garrus save the galaxy and Papa will apologize for being so short sightened.

[Pacifien]

Cerrydd wrote...
Alright, Papa Vakarian...

Do we know what he thinks of humans? I'm not sure. It could be that he fought in the First Contact War, might be possible that he holds a grudge when it comes to humans.*snip*

As much as they hate to admit it, children do tend to develop their perceptions of the world based on those closest to them. Don't really know if Garrus's dad was around much, but I like to think someone in the Bioware universes had devoted parents (aside from Spacer background Shepard), so I'll go with the idea that Garrus's dad at least tried to do right by his family. Seeing as Garrus didn't balk once in following a human like Shepard tells me that his father didn't hold any grudges on humans either. Probably had a view similar to Executor Pallin... and no, I don't think Pallin was Garrus's father.

[silentstephi]

Collider wrote...

Unrelated to bonsai, but turian related none-the-less: What is the deal with creepy turian assassin and his inappropriate Tali-touching? None of that, young sir. lol

That Turian was just a criminal creep. The kind of scum that Garrus loves to lay the smack down on.

Maybe so, but he was a HOT criminal creep.  I love that tat.

Collider wrote...

Also, on Turian tatoos: the council are all tatooed similar to Nihlus and Pallin. Is there a chance that when they serve the council and citadel in a formal and high ranking capacity, Turians exchange their coloney tatoos for ones which represent the wider galaxy? Just spit-balling here. I think I should sleep.

I'm pretty sure they keep the tattoo of the colony they came from as a matter of pride. Might be wrong though.

Nihlus and Pallin actually have two very different types of tats.  I don't think they share a colony/world, but I do know that the codex says they keep the tat of their home colony as a thing of pride.  Might also be something that can be tied to their views on the "spirits" of things.  They show their "faith" in the spirit of their home world. Solidarity, all that guf.
For comparison -
Nihlus
Executer Pallin

It's a different pattern.  Though Nihlus and the Councilor!Turian do share the same tat.
As for if it's an actual tattoo vs. facepaint... I have a theory on this one.
I think it could be either.  I think those who have a more criminal mindset probably just use paint since it may make them less easier to identify right away, but I'm curious how turians would tattoo their face plates.  Do they inject ink under the plate or skin like humans do, or do they sear the paint in, almost like scarring with inks or maybe like what you do to pottery and the paint on them?

I... really like turian tattoos.../shuffles feet

[Cerrydd]

And there's also a mother... or maybe there is no mother... I wonder what she thinks of all this. If she's still there.

[Timerider42]

Is Nihlus' face white with black paint or black with white paint? It's a conundrum.

[silentstephi]

CamoBadger wrote...

Timerider42 wrote...

Is Nihlus' face white with black paint or black with white paint? It's a conundrum.

Black w/ white paint.

His face/plates are actually red, his skin is like a tannish brown, and his tatts are white. XD


Also cupcake



Also, too tired to form thoughts on Daddy V.

[irene9876]

Cerrydd wrote...

And there's also a mother... or maybe there is no mother... I wonder what she thinks of all this. If she's still there.

If I were to imagine a conversation between Garrus' parents it would probably go something like this:

MamaV:  It's been 2 years, and we still haven't heard anything...

PapaV:  He's a grown Turian, dear.  He can look out for himself.

MamaV:  I know you're right.  But still, you remember what Chellick told us...
MamaV:  And the way you chewed him out over leaving C-Sec, that didn't help things!

PapaV:  I thought I was doing right by him.  You know how impulsive he can be.  *Sigh*

MamaV:  Wherever he is, I hope he's ok.

eta:  Basically, I think they'd both be more concerned that Garrus is ok.

Modifié par irene9876, 10 mai 2010 - 05:34 .

[irene9876]

CamoBadger wrote...

silentstephi wrote...


Also cupcake



Also, too tired to form thoughts on Daddy V.

Wait, does Garrus actually sit back there on that part? I was always looking elsewhere.

Whoever is the third party member does.

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

What i thought garrus and his father's confrontation would be like.



Shepard and garrus walk in a C-SEC interrogation which was set up by an unknown source, the room is dimly lit and there is a table and a chair. What shepard sees is a turian figure illuminating from the dimly lit room. He/she is intrigued and rather suprised. The turian looks almost exactly like him, only his face was more pale and he had bright crystalline blue eyes. Shepard already felt the tension flowing between this turian and his best friend/lover.



Garrus's eyes narrowed to a glare and he started to gain that predatory glint in his eyes. His body tensed up and he barely heard a low rumble coming from his throat.

"What do you want from me...father?" he said with a deep gruffled voice that shepard was not familiar to. The turian opened his eyes and glared back at him. "Is that how you treat the only person who has raised, trained, and cared for you these days?" "Did this" he shot a violent look at shepard "...human, create this pitiful creature that i see here today?" Mr.Vakarian's mandibles flared "You leave shepard out of this old man!" garrus snarled back. "Oh, but isn't shepard supposed to be the center of attention?" Mr. vakarian answered back calmly. He then started pancing around the room. "Big goddamn hero they are calling him/her. Savior of the citadel. Geth's worst nightmare. A major inspiration to many." He said with a bit of sarcasm in his voice. "A dangerous idol to follow garrus. She/he is reckless and lawless, just like the rest of the spectres. Don't you remember saren? How much of a disgrace he was among our kind? Without rules there is chaos and pandemonium. Shepard is a prime example, big explosions, bloodbaths, and death follow him/her everywhere he/she goes. Eventually his/her insanity caught up and shepard was gone forever...a memory." Without warning with remarkable speed he went up to garrus, grabbed him by the throat and slammed him against the wall. "And you where becoming just like one of them! I know who you were...Archangel!!" He was about to slam him again when garrus headbutted him. Garrus started to show his teeth with an intense snarl. He was in his fighting position ready to pounce on his father when shepard jumped in between them. "Both of you, STOP RIGHT NOW!!" Shepard yelled with anger and frustration.



"You!" shepard pointed at mr. vakarian. "I don't care whether you are garrus's father or a damned turian god, you have no right to treat him like this. He doesn't deserve it after everything hes done! You think that i forced or persuaded your son to join me? You are sadly mistaken because he volunteered to help me, twice! He didn't need to join me, he could have either rejected or left whenever he wanted to, the door was always open for him. But damn it he didn't do you know why Mr.Vakarian? Its because he wanted to help make this screwed up galaxy a better place, and whatever leash you and C-SEC had on him wasn't helping." Shepard paused for a moment to slow down his breathing. "He could have been imitating me on omega, but that was because he didn't want to go back to whatever you and the damn politicians had in store for him. He still wanted to help people directly, despite the fact that i was dead. Hence ArchAngel and his dirty dozen was created, helping crack down on criminals without any red tape or the damned bureaucracy getting in his way." Everyone one was silent for a while until Mr.Vakarain broke the silence. "He almost died being with you, and he almost died trying to act like you. I don't want your influence to take my son away." He looked at garrus and said in a soft voice. "You are the only thing i have left in this galaxy garrus, and i worked so hard on you." Garrus growled back. "I was always a damned disappointment to you wasn't I?" "Enough you two!" Shepard said again. He/she turned to mr. vakarian again. "Your son was always my right hand man vakarian. He was my comrade and then we became close friends. Truth of the matter is, garrus has possibly saved me more times then i could count. And i was always happy to return the favor. If it wasn't for your son, We wouldn't be standing hear having this lovely conversation." Garrus chuckled to himself a little bit. "And you, garrus vakarian. You two may had some conflicts between each other that i don't know of, but he is still your father. You haven't talked to him in over 2 years what do you think was going to happen? I think you should talk more to your father, either face to face or via extranet. Whatever, not talking to each other would raise tension, and i don't want to see this happening again."

[Tootles FTW]

Oooh, oooh, quiz time! I don't have anything new to add to most of the questions, so I shall cherry-pick.

d) Do you think we will be able to recruit races against the Reapers in ME3? Would do you think about that? Is it too much like Dragon Age?
- I don't see where else ME3 could possibly go if not having us recruit the races.  The big problem is that if you're playing a renegadeShep that removes the rachni and the reprogrammed geth, though I suppose they could add a unique option for renegades...such as being willing to work with the vorcha or batarians, whereas a paragonShep wouldn't.

e) Elevators or loading screens?
- Elevators, if it includes more squad dialogue or news bulletins.  The only real improvement from ME1 to ME2 (imo) was the Normandy load screen - I liked seeing the overview of the ship rather than just watching my FemShep tapping her foot in the elevator. 

f) If you could have designed Garrus' DLC armor, how would you design it?
- I would like an option that doesn't have so pronounced of a neck bowl...thing.  It's obvious that the shoulder piece is not related to the size of his actual frame (as made apparent by his clothes during the romance scene), so it's meant to either be 1) ornamental, or 2) functional.  As far as ornamental goes, I think it looks a tad ridiculous.  I live in Florida and sometimes it seriously reminds me of the senior citizens who drive around here - I can just see his eyes barely peeking over the rim, haha!  Concerning the functional value of his armor, I really don't see what benefit such a large and bulky neck bowl...thing...would have in combat.

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Continued.

"You are...much different then what i thought you would be spectre." Mr. Vakarian replied. Shepard looked at him and responded. "Being...a spectre is possibly the hardest job mr. vakarian. Yes we don't have to deal with the law unless the council steps in, but that doesn't make these any more simpler. That doesn't make me ruthless either, but its because of my morals. In the end being a spectre is almost the same as anything else i did in my life. Only bigger risks, and different higher authorities pointing the direction and asking you to do something." "You shouldn't antagonize shepard like this father, he/she already has to put up with the damned council as it is. Shepard deserves better then the way they are treating him/her. I looked up to shepard as a mentor once, but now 2 years later we are close friends and he/she needed me even more then ever before. I was happy to oblige." Garrus was trembling a little bit. "I...will talk to you later about this. Shepard, i need some distance from this place." Garrus slows his pace out of the door, almost stumbling and shaking.

Garrus as an LI:

"Shepard...don't leave, i want to talk to you about something." Shepard looked at him curiously. "Fire away." "You and my son...say you are close friends? I doubt that. I've seen it in both your eyes. This is something more then simple friendship isn't it?" Mr. vakarian cocked his head. Shepard looked at him with widened eyes, she couldn't hide her panicked expression. "You do know....that both mine and your species will antagonize you two? And not only that but humans are not compatible with turian relationships. This is dangerous shepard."

Shepard paused for a moment. "Hell, no use in lying. One of us is going to say something eventually. Yes. We didn't even realize that we were...in love until much later. We were just close friends. But eventually we started caring for each other. I started to care about him, and i was worried about him. He changed mr. vakarian, and the things that happened to him weren't pretty. He had nothing left after omega, and if i didn't come in he would have died there. And i am truly sorry i indirectly had anything to do with that." Vakarian winced. "He was lost, lonely, and confused. He was always tense and he was killing himself in the inside and i couldn't stand seeing that to a close friend. And we learned...well." Shepard tried not to blush. "We learned that some relationships can work. He told me everything in his life went wrong, but what we have. Hopefully what we have we could both make something right."

Mr. Vakarian simply stared at her, almost shocked. "I understand shepard." "Alright vakarian...i need to catch up to garrus maybe we can talk about this another time." Shepard was turning for the door when vakarian walked up to her. He was looming over shepard. "If you do anything to hurt him, i will hunt you down, and i strangle you with my bear hands." Shepard looked back at him with determination. "I will always take care of him." She turned around to leave but then stopped "By the way, you two sound so much alike." She was smiling at him, and mr. vakarian returned it with a grin.

end.

My second little pathetic attempt at a fanfic. What do you guys think?

Modifié par Mr.BlazenGlazen, 10 mai 2010 - 06:06 .

[irene9876]

You have more courage than I do. I've never tried writing fanfic.

It liked the ending .   I think it makes Garrus' dad more relateable.

Modifié par irene9876, 10 mai 2010 - 06:13 .

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

irene9876 wrote...

You have more courage than I do. I've never tried writing fanfic.

It liked the ending .   I think it makes Garrus' dad more relateable.

It wasn't meant to be another fanfic, i was just going to describe it, but i got ahead of myself...again.

[Sand King]

That was good BlazenGlazen

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Sand King wrote...

That was good BlazenGlazen

Listening to music while typing on the forums can do weird things to some people 

[Sand King]

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

Sand King wrote...

That was good BlazenGlazen

Listening to music while typing on the forums can do weird things to some people 

I know what you mean

[Lemonwizard]

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

Sand King wrote...

That was good BlazenGlazen

Listening to music while typing on the forums can do weird things to some people 

You should have seen some of the crazy stuff I posted way back when on the World of Warcraft forums when I was on Vicodin and listening to the Battlestar Galactica soundtrack. I may have saved some of it, but I'm not sure. 

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Sand King wrote...

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

Sand King wrote...

That was good BlazenGlazen

Listening to music while typing on the forums can do weird things to some people 

I know what you mean

Eh...yeah. For some reason i find it easier to think and write if i listen to some doom/death/prog metal with the consideration of the songs being slow and powerful.

[Lemonwizard]

I write best with violin music, but I think it's more the psychological factor that I think I write better with a string quartet than with other music than anything else.

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Lemonwizard wrote...

I write best with violin music, but I think it's more the psychological factor that I think I write better with a string quartet than with other music than anything else.

Listening to something soft or classical kind of helps me out too. For me i just put on a song and thought "Garrus" then went to this thread seeing there is a discussion about Garrus and his Dad confronting each other. So then i thought "Garrus and his dad" and went crazy with it i guess.

[Lemonwizard]

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

Lemonwizard wrote...

I write best with violin music, but I think it's more the psychological factor that I think I write better with a string quartet than with other music than anything else.

Listening to something soft or classical kind of helps me out too. For me i just put on a song and thought "Garrus" then went to this thread seeing there is a discussion about Garrus and his Dad confronting each other. So then i thought "Garrus and his dad" and went crazy with it i guess.

It's not so much the themes of classical music that appeals to me as it is the specific instrument of the violin, truth be told. I have no idea why, but I love it so dearly. When I find a new song I like that's say a rock song, I will frequently try to find a violin cover of it.