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[Collider]

Nicely done, Blazen! I liked it. You've got talent. My only suggestion is that you break up the paragraphs so it's a little easier to read.

Modifié par Collider, 10 mai 2010 - 06:33 .

[Sand King]

I have my most creative ideas when listening to Zeppelin

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Lemonwizard wrote...

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

Lemonwizard wrote...

I write best with violin music, but I think it's more the psychological factor that I think I write better with a string quartet than with other music than anything else.

Listening to something soft or classical kind of helps me out too. For me i just put on a song and thought "Garrus" then went to this thread seeing there is a discussion about Garrus and his Dad confronting each other. So then i thought "Garrus and his dad" and went crazy with it i guess.

It's not so much the themes of classical music that appeals to me as it is the specific instrument of the violin, truth be told. I have no idea why, but I love it so dearly. When I find a new song I like that's say a rock song, I will frequently try to find a violin cover of it.

Ever heard of this band called Apocalyptica? Its a band using a bunch of electric violins and chellos i think. They don't use electric guitars and they barely have any vocals. Its kind of a instrumental band. Look them up on youtube.

Last i heard of them they were touring with metallica, and they actually did a bunch of metallica covers with violins what i heard. i haven't looked it up.

Modifié par Mr.BlazenGlazen, 10 mai 2010 - 06:37 .

[Sand King]

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

Ever heard of this band called Apocalyptica? Its a band using a bunch of electric violins and chellos i think. They don't use electric guitars and they barely have any vocals. Its kind of a instrumental band. Look them up on youtube.

Apocalyptica is great, I love there style.

[Lemonwizard]

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

Lemonwizard wrote...

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

Lemonwizard wrote...

I write best with violin music, but I think it's more the psychological factor that I think I write better with a string quartet than with other music than anything else.

Listening to something soft or classical kind of helps me out too. For me i just put on a song and thought "Garrus" then went to this thread seeing there is a discussion about Garrus and his Dad confronting each other. So then i thought "Garrus and his dad" and went crazy with it i guess.

It's not so much the themes of classical music that appeals to me as it is the specific instrument of the violin, truth be told. I have no idea why, but I love it so dearly. When I find a new song I like that's say a rock song, I will frequently try to find a violin cover of it.

Ever heard of this band called Apocalyptica? Its a band using a bunch of electric violins and chellos i think. They don't use electric guitars and they barely have any vocals. Its kind of a instrumental band. Look them up on youtube.

Last i heard of them they were touring with metallica, and they actually did a bunch of metallica covers with violins what i heard. i haven't looked it up.

I am familiar with Apocalyptica, and I  them.

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Collider wrote...

Nicely done, Blazen! I liked it. You've got talent. My only suggestion is that you break up the paragraphs so it's a little easier to read.

Thanks collider, i didn't even notice that i was writing for an hour and a half straight until i finished it 

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Well anyway guys ima go to bed. i'll talk to you guys tomorrow.

[Lemonwizard]

I always love when you drive off a cliff and land in a forest of inspiration, then get lost in there until you write your way out.





It's so natural and refreshing.

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Lemonwizard wrote...

I always love when you drive off a cliff and land in a forest of inspiration, then get lost in there until you write your way out.


It's so natural and refreshing.

Honestly, i am almost always like that whenever i listen to my music.

But anyway, i'm going to be heading off now, cya guys.

[Kim Shepard]

I leave this thread for a few hours (okay, probably more than a few), and there's ten more pages of intelligent discussion. xD It'll take too long to comment on all of that now, so that can wait until tomorrow, if I have time.

kglaser wrote...
who wants to congratulate Meche Shepard on attaining Spectre status?  Huzzah I say!!

My MaleShep gives his congratulations! He's on Feros right now. By the way, I think I'm finally learning how to use the battle system better than just "point and shoot, throw in a few attacks from the power wheel." I spent an hour upgrading everyone's weapons and armor with that giant inventory, and the result was awesome. Lift + Incendiary Rounds = levitating, flaming geth! And whichever upgrade I used with my Vanguard's shotgun to increase the force sent the geth and their cover flying across the room. It's perfect for him.

@silentstephi: Those screenshots are awesome. How did you get Nihlus' face at that angle for the picture?

When I played through Tali's ME1 recruitment again, I noticed that turian's tattoos looked kind of strange, but I wouldn't have figured it out without that screenshot. That tattoo around his mouth looks like shark teeth. xD (He was the only turian I can think of at the moment who my MainShep wouldn't mind killing... but I think Tali was the one who killed him?)

Modifié par Kim Shepard, 10 mai 2010 - 08:40 .

[Collider]

Pretty sure Tali killed him as I don't remember fighting any Turians aside from Saren in ME1.

[Kim Shepard]

Collider wrote...

Pretty sure Tali killed him as I don't remember fighting any Turians aside from Saren in ME1.

I thought there were some turians in the battle right outside Chora's Den... I remember looking down at one of them and thinking, "Shepard killed a turian. ):" That happened several times in ME2, so I might have them mixed up, but I'm pretty sure there was at least one turian there.

[Soltana]

Collider wrote...

Pretty sure Tali killed him as I don't remember fighting any Turians aside from Saren in ME1.

There are lots of turian pirates to kill but as far as plot-wise, like with actual lines, there aren't many. Like Kim said, there are a couple of turian assassins that come after you when you head to Chora's Den. They were "Saren's men" as Kaidan points out. I believe I've also killed the Broker's turian before. I can't think of any others though. After that, Saren pretty much begins favoring his krogan.

[Nilfalasiel]

a) Tali and Garrus in ME3: If they aren't, I'm not buying. Simple as. I'd rather have them be squadmates, but if they're not, at least allow them to have a prominent role as NPCs (ie. NOT like Kaidan/Ash in ME2). Then again, I'm not too worried about them not being included.

Thane in ME3: I'm kinda conflicted on this one. On the one hand, I like him as a character, and it's sad that he has to die, but on the other hand, I suspect that having the hanar/Mordin pulling the "ohai gaiz, we/I made a breakthrough and cured Kepral's syndrome much earlier than expected!!" Deus Ex would ruin the whole tragic vibe of his character. I know he's an LI, and it doesn't seem fair to kill him off. But seriously...people who started that romance must know that they can't expect roses and ponies. You know from the start that this guy has about a year to live at most, as well as the kind of baggage he has. How can you expect it to end well?

Bottom line: I think Thane is one of the two ME2 squadmates who are most likely to bite it/not return, along with Mordin. Which sucks, because I also love Mordin. But unless ME3 starts very shortly after ME2, there's a chance that those 2 won't make it.

c) Turian face-markings: Shepard does refer to it as paint, so maybe it's some sort of waterproof paint?

d) Turian politicians changing their markings: No, I don't think they do. The Codex refers to the markings as indicators of origin, nothing else.

e) Should Garrus keep his scars in ME3? Yes, it makes him sexier  But I do agree that the bandage has to go (which it probably will anyway, but still).

f) Is the DLC armour worth it? I prefer his default blue one, but the DLC does fix the busted collar...Hmm. I'm still undecided on it. Especially since I don't like Jack's and Thane's DLC outfits.

And the second set of questions:

a) Would Papa Vakarian ever approve of Shep? I don't think it's at all likely that we'll meet him. In fact, I think a "meet the parents" scenario would be pretty much completely out of place in ME3. But either he will never approve, or secretly relent, but never show it, or show a grudging approval after Shepard demonstrates more ass-kicking prowess.

Garrus' reaction to Papa Vakarian's disapproval: He wouldn't care. He's a big boy now. However, depending on how well Papa Vakarian handles words, he might say something particularly scathing that might make Garrus angry. But he'd still carry on doing his thing.

c) Paragon/Renegade influence on Garrus in ME3: I wouldn't mind seeing some slightly more permanent effects from ME1/ME2 carrying over, but as long as we do have a choice, and he doesn't somehow turn into a psychopathic serial killer without us having any say about it, I'm fine.

d) Recruiting races in ME3: I think that it's definitely going in that direction. I'd find it highly improbable if Shepard & co. took down ALL those Reapers we see at the end of ME2 on their own. Besides, the rachni queen does say that the rachni will fight for Shepard if needed. So if Shepard saved the rachni, put Wrex in charge of Urdnot, rewrote the geth and told the quarians not to go to war, he/she has a pretty huge amount of backup right there. If he/she didn't do any of this, well...

e) Elevators or loading screens: Elevators, IF that means party banter/news flashes/ads. If it's just a silent ride, then they might as well keep the loading screens. I think loading screens break the flow of the game, but silent elevator rides are simply tedious.

f) As long as it's blue and not completely grotesque (eg. a horned helmet), I don't mind what it looks like.

Modifié par Nilfalasiel, 10 mai 2010 - 03:38 .

[janeym27]

TS2Aggie wrote...

Hi there, fellow Garrus fans. Just joined this fine group a few minutes ago and am looking forward to participating in this fine thread.

I was wondering (and if this has been discussed before I do so apologize): has anyone thought of the possibility that Executor Pallin from ME1 may be Garrus's father? I can't explain why they wouldn't have the same surname but Pallin does seem to act in the exact manner that Garrus described his father to Commander Shepard.

Again, if this is a topic that has long-since been debated, I apologize in advance.

It's a good one. I was thinking about this last night (I'm trying to fic ME1 Garrus atm, so I'm trying to work out the Pallin/Garrus dynamic there). I don't think he is Papa Vakarian, but the thought did cross my mind. Their conversation at the Council tower was what made me think it: Garrus is basically yelling at his XO, and said XO is taking it quite calmly. Pallin also certainly seems like the type of man Garrus is describing when he talks about his dad: doesn't trust humans, doesn't trust Spectres, C-Sec career man (30 years), by the book with no exceptions... I like to think that with that length of service record, Pallin and Papa V probably began service at the same time, and served together for a while. Given their seemingly similar attitudes, they'd probably have been friends. I imagine Pallin feeling a responsibility to Papa V to watch out for his son: especially since Garrus is such a hotheaded idealist.
Replaying ME1, I can see Garrus being close to slipping down the Harkin path (obviously, Harkin was a selfish scumbag who acted for personal gain, whereas Garrus bends the rules in his pursuit of a greater good, but the way Harkin talks about Garrus is so bitter, as if he's thinking 'he'll learn'. I think disappointment and frustration with the system can decay a person. I don't think Harkin and Garrus are from the same metal, but I can see Garrus' superiors being concerned he might slip down that road. After all, to someone like Pallin, it seems that a law-breaking cop is a law-breaking cop. Anyway, tangent over). By this, I mean he's either going to destroy thev system or it's going to destroy him. I have always wondered how Garrus came to be on the Saren case. From the start, C-Sec must have known he was a Spectre and therefore virtually untouchable, so the case was doomed to collapse. Was Garrus put on it because he's so damn good even though they knew it was unlikly he'd get anywhere, and would get frustrated as a result, or was he put on it because they knew it was a dead end case and were hoping it would occupy him for a while and stop him trying to buck the system. Or maybe hoping it would lead to him signing up with Shep (he can't have been investagating Saren for very long, in any case. Shepard only just accused him!).
If you don't take him, Garrus quits C-Sec anyway. You've got to wonder whether they'd take him back...where else is he gonna go? (Omega!)

Collider wrote...

Pretty sure Tali killed him as I don't remember fighting any Turians aside from Saren in ME1.

There are turians outside Chora's den (they are not a fun fight on insanity, so  I got a good long look at them in my 7 attempts to kill them both. I fail) But yes, I think Tali killed him.

I love how in both games, recruiting Garrus takes you right into a firefight alongside him before he's even signed up. No other characters coem to you in that way. Certainly not twice!  (The others you either talk to before or after another mission, or simply converse with and agree. Garrus has got your back and you have his).

The tatoo thing was just a random thought which popped into my sleep-deprived brain last night. Mostly because I'd never noticed the Council paint/tatoos before (duh!). I wondered if that was some sort of adopted system from turian culture or... well, it doesn't really matter. Our resident tatoo experts have cleared that up for me.  lol

I think renegading or paragoning Garrus will have more of an effect in ME3 than it did on ME2. I hear a lot of complaints that "I put him on the path of paragon, and he became a vigilante/wanted to shoot an unarmed man anyway! Not impressed!!" but I don't think that's necessarily fair. The Saleon incident was only one event - it's hardly going to completely change a personality overnight. Plus, after that, he lost his mentor and friend, saw the worst of what the galaxy has to offer, and then lead (he feels) 10 good men to their deaths at the actions of a traitor. That stuff is going to rather muddy the core of Shepard's lesson. Now Sidonus: that was deeply personal. His reactions depending on if you kill him/ let him live or (my fave) let Sidonus say his peice then let Garrus take the shot are (IMO) markedly different in comparison to the reactions to the Saleon quest. He also doesn't discuss his feelings on the event, which leads me to believe that whatever the outcome, it's really affecting him (any conversation after that, is pretty much him trying to figure out the sex/emotion in his relationship to Shepard. The Sidnus stuff comes out again a little just before O-4, but it must be simmering away there in the backround).
Now HOW it's going to affect him in ME3 is another matter. But I'll leave that for the devs. lol Suffice to say, I do NOT  see Garrus ever being a 'psychotic killer', no matter what path you've steered him towards.

Please: elevators on hubs! I miss the banter. Loading screens on missions are fine.
Alternativly, loading screens with a little dancing Garrus or Grunt would also be acceptable (with several different dance-styles!)

... I had more to say, but I am painfully aware I have essay posted again. Apologies.

[Sialater]

Good Morning, y'all.



Whatever the confrontation between Papa Vakarian and Garrus: I doubt we'll see it on screen.

[Pacifien]

janeym27 wrote...

Collider wrote...
Pretty sure Tali killed him as I don't remember fighting any Turians aside from Saren in ME1.

There are turians outside Chora's den (they are not a fun fight on insanity, so  I got a good long look at them in my 7 attempts to kill them both. I fail) But yes, I think Tali killed him.

Tonn Actus. What a pain in the ass he was to fight.

[Sialater]

Pacifien wrote...

janeym27 wrote...

Collider wrote...
Pretty sure Tali killed him as I don't remember fighting any Turians aside from Saren in ME1.

There are turians outside Chora's den (they are not a fun fight on insanity, so  I got a good long look at them in my 7 attempts to kill them both. I fail) But yes, I think Tali killed him.

Tonn Actus. What a pain in the ass he was to fight.

That guy was WAYYY too tough for a side boss.

[Pacifien]

Nilfalasiel wrote...
a) Tali and Garrus in ME3: If they aren't, I'm not buying. Simple as. I'd rather have them be squadmates, but if they're not, at least allow them to have a prominent role as NPCs (ie. NOT like Kaidan/Ash in ME2). Then again, I'm not too worried about them not being included.

While I understand why someone would draw a line in the sand for Bioware in regards for their intentions in buying future products, I don't really subscribe to it myself.

I mean, I once threw A Game of Thrones across the room after the author took a particularly displeasing turn with one of the characters, but the overall story remained strong and I continue reading the series to this day... well, I would be reading the series to this day if there were any new installments, but that's a good rant for another forum.

So if Tali and Garrus played a minor role in ME3, I might be disappointed at first, but if the story remained strong, I'd swallow the bitter pill and keep going. Now, if they didn't show up at all, that might be enough to ruin the game for me. It could be the greatest story ever told, but it would always have the "but why weren't Tali and Garrus in it" question looming over it. Particularly if the excuse was rather weak for them not being there.

[Pacifien]

Sialater wrote...

Pacifien wrote...
Tonn Actus. What a pain in the ass he was to fight.

That guy was WAYYY too tough for a side boss.

The time I accidentally shot the fuel tanks on the second floor of his base was the happiest accident of my life, though.

[AngryP1xel]

Sialater wrote...

Pacifien wrote...

janeym27 wrote...

Collider wrote...
Pretty sure Tali killed him as I don't remember fighting any Turians aside from Saren in ME1.

There are turians outside Chora's den (they are not a fun fight on insanity, so  I got a good long look at them in my 7 attempts to kill them both. I fail) But yes, I think Tali killed him.

Tonn Actus. What a pain in the ass he was to fight.

That guy was WAYYY too tough for a side boss.

You mean Garrus didn't snipe him for you?  I always wind up with my kills stolen by Garrus, even the difficult ones.  He even kill-jacked Saren from me!

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Sialater wrote...

Good Morning, y'all.

Whatever the confrontation between Papa Vakarian and Garrus: I doubt we'll see it on screen.

I wrote a fanfic about that a page back, it is also in my sig. Its called "The link"

[Nilfalasiel]

Pacifien wrote...
Particularly if the excuse was rather weak for them not being there.

That's the thing: any excuse for them not being in ME3/having a minor role would strike me as weak. Provided they're not dead or brainwashed, they have zero reason not to be with Shepard. The only reason I see for Tali not being there is if Shepard didn't dissuade the quarians from going to war with the geth, and Tali has to go back to help defend her people (especially if they make her an admiral to replace her father, as some of them suggested). But even in a situation like that, it's not necessarily a given that Tali would ditch Shepard, considering what happened during her LM.

It's even more straightforward for Garrus: he literally has nowhere else to go, unless they turn him vigilante again, which would be completely lame.

[Sialater]

AngryP1xel wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Pacifien wrote...

janeym27 wrote...

Collider wrote...
Pretty sure Tali killed him as I don't remember fighting any Turians aside from Saren in ME1.

There are turians outside Chora's den (they are not a fun fight on insanity, so  I got a good long look at them in my 7 attempts to kill them both. I fail) But yes, I think Tali killed him.

Tonn Actus. What a pain in the ass he was to fight.

That guy was WAYYY too tough for a side boss.

You mean Garrus didn't snipe him for you?  I always wind up with my kills stolen by Garrus, even the difficult ones.  He even kill-jacked Saren from me!

I think I ended up taking Wrex and Tali on that one most often since I play a Vanguard and it's Wrex's quest.   And I rarely used Garrus as a sniper, which I now know is a big mistake.  I'll have to aim for that fuel tank in the future.