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[Sialater]

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Good Morning, y'all.

Whatever the confrontation between Papa Vakarian and Garrus: I doubt we'll see it on screen.

I wrote a fanfic about that a page back, it is also in my sig. Its called "The link"

I saw that.  I really liked it!

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

And if tali and garrus wasn't in me3. I think it would be twice as worse then the riots we had with the "Bioware Bazaar". I think the entire forum would explode with complaints. I don't think bioware would be that stupid. They want a game that would appeal to their fans. And they know that a big majority of them are fans of tali and garrus. In fact most of the people on the forums actually like the dirty dozen, so taking out any of them would ****** a lot of people off.

[Shazzammer2]

oh don't worry your pretty head off. Everyone will return to ME3 ... except for Thane. -.-

[Collider]

It's even more straightforward for Garrus: he literally has nowhere else to go, unless they turn him vigilante again, which would be completely lame.

Yea...wouldn't make a lick of sense. Garrus knows the big picture is that the Reapers have to be stopped, I couldn't buy the vigilante thing in that context.

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Shazzammer2 wrote...

oh don't worry your pretty head off. Everyone will return to ME3 ... except for Thane. -.-

I am going to give bioware a piece of my mind of they screw up thane. He has very big potential. Like imagine if they made garrus in me1. But then when you meet him again in me2 they kill him off without even explaining most of his back story and his people. Incredibly. Lame.

[Shazzammer2]

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

Shazzammer2 wrote...

oh don't worry your pretty head off. Everyone will return to ME3 ... except for Thane. -.-

I am going to give bioware a piece of my mind of they screw up thane. He has very big potential. Like imagine if they made garrus in me1. But then when you meet him again in me2 they kill him off without even explaining most of his back story and his people. Incredibly. Lame.

They screwed up Thane when they made him ill. <_<

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Shazzammer2 wrote...

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

Shazzammer2 wrote...

oh don't worry your pretty head off. Everyone will return to ME3 ... except for Thane. -.-

I am going to give bioware a piece of my mind of they screw up thane. He has very big potential. Like imagine if they made garrus in me1. But then when you meet him again in me2 they kill him off without even explaining most of his back story and his people. Incredibly. Lame.

They screwed up Thane when they made him ill. <_<

They can still fix it. Just make a twist that would make sense. Killing thane would totally ****** me off.

[Pacifien]

Nilfalasiel wrote...

Pacifien wrote...
Particularly if the excuse was rather weak for them not being there.

That's the thing: any excuse for them not being in ME3/having a minor role would strike me as weak.*snip*

I imagine quite a few Ashley/Kaidan/Liara fans found the excuses for them not having larger roles in ME2 rather weak as well. I know I found Liara's justifications somewhat weak and the Ashley/Kaidan confrontation too short. But the story and gameplay remained strong enough for me to still enjoy ME2 in spite of that.

Which is really my point, they could screw up Tali and Garrus's roles in ME3, but make up for it in other areas. Doesn't mean I'll like what they did to Tali and Garrus, but in the end, they're just one part of the larger story that I'm playing.

With full admission, I am the rare individual who could find a reason for every previous squadmate to be thrown by the wayside and still be fine with that. Aim for my head, because I don't have a heart.

[Shazzammer2]

But how can they fix it though? I mean he already stated its incurable. What is up with the future man?? Don't they have lung transplants or something??

[Collider]

Ashley, Kaidan, and Liara were sidelined to survive to ME3. Since there is no ME4 and both Tali and Garrus can die, a cameo of their sort doesn't seem likely.

[Collider]

Shazzammer2 wrote...

But how can they fix it though? I mean he already stated its incurable. What is up with the future man?? Don't they have lung transplants or something??

They could elongate his life instead of curing it.

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

But like i said before, the entire forum would explode with complaints, possibly even worse then what happened with Bioware Bazaar. And they made them LIs in me2. It wouldn't make any freakin sense if they completely diminished their role in me3.

[Shazzammer2]

Collider wrote...

Shazzammer2 wrote...

But how can they fix it though? I mean he already stated its incurable. What is up with the future man?? Don't they have lung transplants or something??

They could elongate his life instead of curing it.

Didn't he give a timeframe when he is expected to 'expire'? Didn't he say 5 to 6 months?

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Shazzammer2 wrote...

Collider wrote...

Shazzammer2 wrote...

But how can they fix it though? I mean he already stated its incurable. What is up with the future man?? Don't they have lung transplants or something??

They could elongate his life instead of curing it.

Didn't he give a timeframe when he is expected to 'expire'? Didn't he say 5 to 6 months?

We have smart doctors like mordin and chawkwas, maybe they might think of something. Anyway guys i'm heading out, be back in the afternoon. Spread the word about my new fanfic i would like to hear what people think about it.

[silentstephi]

Shazzammer2 wrote...

Collider wrote...

Shazzammer2 wrote...

But how can they fix it though? I mean he already stated its incurable. What is up with the future man?? Don't they have lung transplants or something??

They could elongate his life instead of curing it.

Didn't he give a timeframe when he is expected to 'expire'? Didn't he say 5 to 6 months?

He's got 8 to 12 before his illness starts getting bad, and could affect his work.
I hope they give us a good story reguarding Thane.
He's one of my favorites, simply because I find his race pretty fascinating (and the Hanar) and he makes my Shepard all sorts of uncomfortable.  Damn religious sorts.  Making her question stuff...

[Pacifien]

Collider wrote...
Ashley, Kaidan, and Liara were sidelined to survive to ME3. Since there is no ME4 and both Tali and Garrus can die, a cameo of their sort doesn't seem likely.

Shepard's story ends with ME3. Doesn't mean the ME stories stop.

Personally think the entire Quarian/Geth story would make for a decent ME game outside of the trilogy we're currently playing. Perhaps Bioware can branch out into the realm of the RTS. I'd like a good Homeworld replacement.

And if Tali and Garrus were given a cameo in the way Wrex was given a cameo, you've got a continuation with their respective stories while allowing development time for other characters.

Do I think Bioware would do such a thing? Not really. Am I saying I wouldn't be disappointed if they did? Not really. But if the story was still strong, I'd manage.

[Pacifien]

silentstephi wrote...
He's got 8 to 12 before his illness starts getting bad, and could affect his work.
I hope they give us a good story reguarding Thane.

Well, Thane gives us an estimate of 8 to 12 months before he thinks he'll be debilitated. And he gives you that estimate when he's all but given up wanting to survive. If he fought harder for survival, I could see him pushing back death for a couple years beyond that.

In my ongoing crusade of evils plans that are evil, I suggested dumping Thane's memories into an AI quantum bluebox once. Hey, if it's good enough for President Huerta...

[Shazzammer2]

you know at this point im hoping for a good story. Cuz that's all I really want.

[silentstephi]

I want my good story with my Turian Bad Ass.

/grump

And holy cow, I just saw all the Cerberus Daily news updates for this past week...

Turian info overload... Want MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOAR!

They have eardrums?! WHAR?!

[Nilfalasiel]

I don't know: the whole point with Thane is that you know he's doomed. It adds weight to his character and defines his role and his point of view: he's there to make his final actions matter in the greater scheme of things (saving lives rather than taking them) and make you question your own morality in the meantime. The fact that he's speaking from the threshold of the grave gives him more significance. It also makes his romance unique and poignant, for those that have the guts to go through with it. Curing him would seem like a cop out to me. Maybe I'm heartless, but like I said: the ones who romanced him can't just ignore the huge "BY THE WAY, I'M DYING" neon sign he holds out to you in your very first convo with him and hope it'll somehow magically go away. I don't normally defend rampant character death, but it seems like, in this case, it's necessary for his character's integrity.

Then again, it's true that he didn't get a lot of screentime in ME2, so killing him off in 3 would feel a bit like a reiteration of the Nihlus syndrome: "hey, look! awesome mystical assassin sniper dude! oops, he's dead, LOLZ".

Like I said, I'm conflicted about Thane. Maybe they could make him live through ME3 and die at the end? I really don't know which would be the better outcome.

Modifié par Nilfalasiel, 10 mai 2010 - 04:28 .

[kglaser]

aynxalot wrote...

This is absolutely precious. <3

eta:  Yay, just saw Mr. BlazenGlazen's additional fanfics, a bromance AND a romance dialogue this time...those were really good!

Modifié par kglaser, 10 mai 2010 - 04:44 .

[Lemonwizard]

Nilfalasiel wrote...

I don't know: the whole point with Thane is that you know he's doomed. It adds weight to his character and defines his role and his point of view: he's there to make his final actions matter in the greater scheme of things (saving lives rather than taking them) and make you question your own morality in the meantime. The fact that he's speaking from the threshold of the grave gives him more significance. It also makes his romance unique and poignant, for those that have the guts to go through with it. Curing him would seem like a cop out to me. Maybe I'm heartless, but like I said: the ones who romanced him can't just ignore the huge "BY THE WAY, I'M DYING" neon sign he holds out to you in your very first convo with him and hope it'll somehow magically go away. I don't normally defend rampant character death, but it seems like, in this case, it's necessary for his character's integrity.

Then again, it's true that he didn't get a lot of screentime in ME2, so killing him off in 3 would feel a bit like a reiteration of the Nihlus syndrome: "hey, look! awesome mystical assassin sniper dude! oops, he's dead, LOLZ".

Like I said, I'm conflicted about Thane. Maybe they could make him live through ME3 and die at the end? I really don't know which would be the better outcome.

Frankly I think pulling a deus ex machina cure out of nowhere for Thane would be contrived, but he can still be in ME3 if they keep the two games on a close enough together timeframe.


I believe that Thane really has to die for his plot to work, and there's no way around that. But I strongly believe he should die on screen or at least say "I'm too sick to keep fighting I'm going to go be with Kolyat until the end" or something to that effect, rather than being disposed of in a text introduction or passing mention from another character.

[kglaser]

Soltana wrote...

Collider wrote...

Pretty sure Tali killed him as I don't remember fighting any Turians aside from Saren in ME1.

There are lots of turian pirates to kill but as far as plot-wise, like with actual lines, there aren't many. Like Kim said, there are a couple of turian assassins that come after you when you head to Chora's Den. They were "Saren's men" as Kaidan points out. I believe I've also killed the Broker's turian before. I can't think of any others though. After that, Saren pretty much begins favoring his krogan.

Jax has two turian bodyguards, IIRC.  Kinda backwards (a krogan with non-krogan bodyguards?), but I think I have a definite memory of fighting them on Hardcore and getting my butt kicked pretty good before I came up with a decent strategy to take down all 3 of them.

[Xsause]

...I'll just leave this here.

[Pacifien]

kglaser wrote...
Jax has two turian bodyguards, IIRC.  Kinda backwards (a krogan with non-krogan bodyguards?), but I think I have a definite memory of fighting them on Hardcore and getting my butt kicked pretty good before I came up with a decent strategy to take down all 3 of them.

Why you gotta go ****** off Chellick, man?