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Garrus Love and Adoration v.2


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#18251
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Pacifien wrote...

I imagine quite a few Ashley/Kaidan/Liara fans found the excuses for them not having larger roles in ME2 rather weak as well. I know I found Liara's justifications somewhat weak and the Ashley/Kaidan confrontation too short. But the story and gameplay remained strong enough for me to still enjoy ME2 in spite of that.

Which is really my point, they could screw up Tali and Garrus's roles in ME3, but make up for it in other areas. Doesn't mean I'll like what they did to Tali and Garrus, but in the end, they're just one part of the larger story that I'm playing.


Yes, but the Liara/Ashley/Kaidan fans at least know that after ME2, there'll be an ME3.  If Tali and Garrus don't show up in a big capacity in ME3, we won't have those straws to grasp...it'll be the end of the road.

eta: Posted before I saw that Collider basically said the same thing first. :P

Modifié par kglaser, 10 mai 2010 - 04:58 .


#18252
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Pacifien wrote...

kglaser wrote...
Jax has two turian bodyguards, IIRC.  Kinda backwards (a krogan with non-krogan bodyguards?), but I think I have a definite memory of fighting them on Hardcore and getting my butt kicked pretty good before I came up with a decent strategy to take down all 3 of them.

Why you gotta go ****** off Chellick, man?


That was Ricky the Renegade.  kglaser does not approve. ^_^

#18253
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Xsause wrote...
...I'll just leave this here.


:3
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Pacifien wrote...

And if Tali and Garrus were given a cameo in the way Wrex was given a cameo, you've got a continuation with their respective stories while allowing development time for other characters.

Do I think Bioware would do such a thing? Not really. Am I saying I wouldn't be disappointed if they did? Not really. But if the story was still strong, I'd manage.


Wrex's cameo was very well done. If Garrus gets a cameo in ME3, or worse, won't appear in ME3, I will still play it. I just want to know how the story ends, with or without Garrus.

Still, BW will have to do a extraordinary job to make Garrus leaving convincing. He has nowhere to go, I don't think he's got something else to do than to be in Shep's team.

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Now I have this image of Shepard and Garrus having reunion sex while Miranda and Jacob are fighting the waves of mercenaries trying to make it across the bridge by themselves.

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Paragon rape and renegade rape huh?

#18257
Cerrydd

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I would never rape Garrus :(

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Pacifien

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Cerrydd wrote...
I would never rape Garrus :(

I'd have reunion sex with him, though. I mean, he probably wouldn't have expected that to be the first thing I'd do, but totally.

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Cerrydd wrote...

I would never rape Garrus :(


Ah ha, but you can't rape the willing! :innocent:

But by all means - make your own, less crude version. :devil:

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Collider wrote...

Paragon rape and renegade rape huh?


Does that make it a... Paragade Rape?

...
..*failed attempt at rhyming*

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A little late in the discussion, but a cleaned-up, fixed version of Garrus and PapaV's confrontation:
http://www.fanfiction.net/s/5791100/1/

Anyway, I totally see Thane dying in ME3. And it doesn't make me happy at all, but it would feel almost cheap if he was magically cured. It would feel like they put that into his character for nothing.

kglaser: I know, right? If I could draw that well, I'd.....be drawing Garrus all day, instead of ragequitting after a few horrible tries.

Edit: Hurr durr.

Modifié par aynxalot, 10 mai 2010 - 05:30 .


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One solution is that they have Thane's ending be ambiguous. That way, people can see Thane as never being cured, or people can be hopeful for the cure and in their interpretation Thane gets cured or his life elongated.

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aynxalot wrote...
Anyway, I totally see Thane dying in ME3. And it doesn't make me happy at all, but it would feel almost cheap if he was magically cured. It would feel like they put that into his character for nothing.

I'm not big on a cure, but I can accept improved therapy that prolongs his life. Right now, I see him living two more years at best. With newer treatments, I can see that going five years... ten years at the most.

There's always cases of people being given a limited survival rate after being diagnosed with such things as cancer only to beat the odds. Might only beat it by a couple years, but still more than the experts predicted.

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Suddenly wild Akselmo appears!
Akselmo uses Mass Effect Dialogue Wheel Generator!
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It's super effective!

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Pacifien wrote...

aynxalot wrote...
Anyway, I totally see Thane dying in ME3. And it doesn't make me happy at all, but it would feel almost cheap if he was magically cured. It would feel like they put that into his character for nothing.

I'm not big on a cure, but I can accept improved therapy that prolongs his life. Right now, I see him living two more years at best. With newer treatments, I can see that going five years... ten years at the most.

There's always cases of people being given a limited survival rate after being diagnosed with such things as cancer only to beat the odds. Might only beat it by a couple years, but still more than the experts predicted.


There should be a possibility that the player has an important role in influencing his lifespan in ME3.
Being his comrade in arms you might morally shift him towards either: a natural but earlier release from his disease (then losing him midway in game), or the unnatural process of medically prolonging himself yet putting himself through more pain.

What a goddamn dilemma i daresay >w<

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Cerrydd wrote...

I would never rape Garrus :(


Of course not. One cannot rape the willing. Image IPB

Okay, but seriously, let's move right on past all of that mmmkay? I can, however, see Shep and Garrus booking it to that master bedroom area across the hall from his sniper perch-

Miranda: "Where the Hell are you two going?"
Shepard: "You guys can hold the line here. We'll be over in this room for a few minutes. Sniping."
Jacob: "Shepard, you don't even have a sniper-"
Shepard: "SNIPING." *Grabs Garrus*
Garrus: "Shepard, I appreciate the thought, but some of my mens' corpses are still in there."
Shepard: "......Then we shall snipe from this broom closet over here."
Miranda: "Oh for the love of-"

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aynxalot wrote...

Cerrydd wrote...

I would never rape Garrus :(


Of course not. One cannot rape the willing. Image IPB

Okay, but seriously, let's move right on past all of that mmmkay? I can, however, see Shep and Garrus booking it to that master bedroom area across the hall from his sniper perch-


I still haven't found the master bedroom :(. I'm blind.

Also, I don't want to have reunion sex when you meet him during his recruitment mission. The guy is tired, man! I don't want him to fall asleep during the deed. And god knows how long it has been since he last took a shower... So, no. I'd let him rest and fresh himself up. Then we'll... talk...

Also:

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(hope this is readable)

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aynxalot wrote...

Cerrydd wrote...

I would never rape Garrus :(


Of course not. One cannot rape the willing. Image IPB

Okay, but seriously, let's move right on past all of that mmmkay? I can, however, see Shep and Garrus booking it to that master bedroom area across the hall from his sniper perch-

Miranda: "Where the Hell are you two going?"
Shepard: "You guys can hold the line here. We'll be over in this room for a few minutes. Sniping."
Jacob: "Shepard, you don't even have a sniper-"
Shepard: "SNIPING." *Grabs Garrus*
Garrus: "Shepard, I appreciate the thought, but some of my mens' corpses are still in there."
Shepard: "......Then we shall snipe from this broom closet over here."
Miranda: "Oh for the love of-"


This is WIN.
But now, whenever I will see a closet, this will cross my mind.

Modifié par LOLandStuff, 10 mai 2010 - 05:53 .


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Collider wrote...

One solution is that they have Thane's ending be ambiguous. That way, people can see Thane as never being cured, or people can be hopeful for the cure and in their interpretation Thane gets cured or his life elongated.






The way I could see it working out is in some form of ending where Shepard & co end up sacrificing themselves in some way to defeat the reapers. Then thane dies in that way before the illness comes into play.

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Lemonwizard wrote...

The way I could see it working out is in some form of ending where Shepard & co end up sacrificing themselves in some way to defeat the reapers. Then thane dies in that way before the illness comes into play.


At least he won't die alone and will have company in the Afterlife.

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Lemonwizard wrote...

The way I could see it working out is in some form of ending where Shepard & co end up sacrificing themselves in some way to defeat the reapers. Then thane dies in that way before the illness comes into play.


Having everybody die would be incredibly depressing. I'd really rather not Image IPB

@ Cerrydd: Oh man...

*tries to imagine Stripping!Garrus*

*brain explodes*

Modifié par Nilfalasiel, 10 mai 2010 - 07:27 .


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...I should really stop making these.

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Garrus Vakarian always score perfect headshots, even on creatures that doesn't have a head.

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Pacifien wrote...

Now I have this image of Shepard and Garrus having reunion sex while Miranda and Jacob are fighting the waves of mercenaries trying to make it across the bridge by themselves.


LOL, ridiculous but funny :D
"Shepard!  I thought you were d-" *Shepard tackles Garrus*

#18275
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a) Garrus' father - would he ever approve of Shepard being with his son? Only if Paragon, or never? Would whether Shepard accepted Spectrehood in ME2 have a factor?
I think he would eventually.  I could see some definite resistance to the idea, but if he was such a respected Officer on the citadel (a very multicultural place), I can't imagine him being some crazy speciesist.  However I definitely see some resistance, because while I think he'd probably be okay with Shep being human (unless he was really counting on grandkids) I think he'd still have a huge issue with her being a spectre.  And I think that would even depend on whether she was paragon or renegade.  I think paragon Shep probably has a better chance of approval than renegade shep since she plays more 'by the rules.'  But even so, tough to say.  I also agree with everyone else who wants two parents present! 
B) How do you think Garrus would respond if his father disapproved of Shepard/the relationship/Garrus fighting alongside Shepard?
Probably like he responded to everything else his dad wanted, considered it, might try it but would probably wind up sticking with what he wanted personally.  I could see him having a little bit of inner turmoil about it, but Garrus matured a lot in ME2.  In ME1 he seemed pretty impressionable, not so much anymore.
c) How do you think paragon or renegading Garrus will affect how he is in ME3? A little? A lot? How do you want it to play out?
I don't really have much of an opinion on this.  I simply expect Garrus to act a bit more paragon or a bit more renegade.  How it plays out would depend entirely upon the events of the game.
d) Do you think we will be able to recruit races against the Reapers in ME3? Would do you think about that? Is it too much like Dragon Age?
I don't particularly care if it's too much like dragon age.  I'm pretty much open for anything in ME3 honestly, just so long as it's GOOD.
e) Elevators or loading screens?
I play on a pretty fast PC, so I prefer the loading screens since they take all of three seconds (my longest load screen is not a load screen... for some reason my computer has to seriously think before taking me to change my weapon load out).  I also want more dialogue though.  If they had lots of NPC dialogue to fill the elevator rides (even if you keep only using the same two people.. I'm so guilty of that) then I would be perfectly happy with elevators.  But I don't want another massive elevator like the Csec to Normandy one, especially when I practically only ever heard the one NPC dialogue.  I think they could probably make it up as a cutscene of sorts.  Have it required for 360 where it seems the loading is actually decently long/necessary, and allow you to click out of it on PC, so you can watch it if you'd like, but if it repeats or the dialogue stops then you can just move on.
f) If you could have designed Garrus' DLC armor, how would you design it?
I'm quite okay with Garrus' DLC armor.  Although I like the loyalty armor better.  Although I use the DLC armor because that armor doesn't have a hole.