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[MarginalBeast]

Brass_Buckles wrote...
but it's never officially confirmed that it's more than a one-night fling.

Well, considering the overwhelming amount of hints and "evidence" that points to their relationship as being much more than a fling/FWB, I'd say it's all but officially confirmed. It also isn't ever officially confirmed that Thane isn't just getting together with Shepard because he's lonely and desperate, or that Tali's love for Shepard is anything more than a schoolgirl crush, but when certain things are obvious, they don't need to be "officially confirmed". All of the romances can be interpreted in different ways, but I think it's safe to assume that the most positive interpretations are correct. Because why would BioWare add shallow romance subplots? There would be no point to that. I think even Miranda and Jacob are supposed to be long-term relationships, even if it isn't made completely obvious. The writers wouldn't just make certain romances meaningful and then take a dump on the others.

...Plus you can cuddle with all of them after the suicide mission, and that's uuuuuusually something that only two people in a romantic relationship do.

I personally don't think Garrus ever considered Shepard as more than just a friend until she started blatantly hitting on him--at least not consciously. He has probably been raised his entire life to view interspecies relationships as weird or "wrong", but I still think he had feelings for Shepard buried inside of him somewhere that he never realized. I guess you could say it's a bit similar to someone who finally realizes that they're homosexual (not a completely accurate comparison, but you get the idea). I imagine that Shepard (mine, at least) was quite shocked when she herself realized that she saw Garrus as more than a friend.

So, I believe he's been in denial for awhile (that, and he's probably terrified of starting anything with her just in case things don't work out). It wouldn't make sense for him to suddenly develop a romantic interest in Shepard in a matter of a few conversations otherwise. Because yes, by the end it is quite obvious that he does have romantic feelings for her. He wouldn't be so hurt when she shoots him down at the end otherwise--not to mention that the trigger to end the relationship is "Maybe we make better friends"/"I want to be your friend". Meaning they're already past the "friends" stage.

...And furthermore, who brings wine and music to a fling?

I agree that in the beginning its a "friends with benefits" kind of
thing and they both think so.

Hey now, don't speak for every Shepard.

Modifié par MarginalBeast, 01 mars 2010 - 01:45 .

[SavageLycan]

And now, the conclusion (for now at least) of Garrus Effect, with Commander Garrus Shepard!

Ashley is catchin' the Palaven Fever by the looks of things.
"Do you know who I am?! I'm GARRUS B**CH!"
"Can it wait for a while Ashley? I'm the middle of some calibrations."
"Did you ever have a little turian in you? Because you do now."
Commander Garrus prepares to lay down some serious whoop-ass.
FISSION MUCKING ACCOMPLISHED!

And that concludes Garrus Effect for now. Hopefully someone can figure out how to do this with Mass Effect 2 and take some screenies of that.

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

SavageLycan wrote...

And now, the conclusion (for now at least) of Garrus Effect, with Commander Garrus Shepard!

Ashley is catchin' the Palaven Fever by the looks of things.
"Do you know who I am?! I'm GARRUS B**CH!"
"Can it wait for a while Ashley? I'm the middle of some calibrations."
"Did you ever have a little turian in you? Because you do now."
Commander Garrus prepares to lay down some serious whoop-ass.
FISSION MUCKING ACCOMPLISHED!

And that concludes Garrus Effect for now. Hopefully someone can figure out how to do this with Mass Effect 2 and take some screenies of that.

That was badass

[Brass_Buckles]

MarginalBeast wrote...

I personally don't think Garrus ever considered Shepard as more than just a friend until she started blatantly hitting on him--at least not consciously. He has probably been raised his entire life to view interspecies relationships as weird or "wrong", but I still think he had feelings for Shepard buried inside of him somewhere that he never realized. I guess you could say it's a bit similar to someone who finally realizes that they're homosexual (not a completely accurate comparison, but you get the idea). I imagine that Shepard (mine, at least) was quite shocked when she herself realized that she saw Garrus as more than a friend.

So, I believe he's been in denial for awhile (that, and he's probably terrified of starting anything with her just in case things don't work out). It wouldn't make sense for him to suddenly develop a romantic interest in Shepard in a matter of a few conversations otherwise. Because yes, by the end it is quite obvious that he does have romantic feelings for her. He wouldn't be so hurt when she shoots him down at the end otherwise--not to mention that the trigger to end the relationship is "Maybe we make better friends"/"I want to be your friend". Meaning they're already past the "friends" stage.

...And furthermore, who brings wine and music to a fling?

I already said that while there's no official confirmation (such as an "I love you" or an "I care about you," or even an, "I hope you understand I want more than one night with you if this works out and we survive" from Garrus), I do believe that it's more to at least Garrus (Shepard's view on it depends on the player) than a one-night stand.

I was kind of with you in thinking that maybe there'd been something there, attraction-wise that Garrus was either wilfully or unintentionally ignoring, but that said, he clearly never gave it any serious consideration.  I think that may actually be a hint toward the possibility that turians are more open-minded than humans in general--that he could be presented with the possibility that abruptly and then be able to consider it.  I don't buy into the turians being against interspecies relations thing--I've seen what look like interspecies couples with turians in ME2 and maybe in ME1 as well.  At least one involved a human and turian standing around chatting.  I think it's more because Garrus recognizes that getting physical with Shepard could be dangerous to both of them--nevermind the problems with not knowing if their parts are going to fit together.  I think it's more that Garrus personally thinks it's strange--he evidently hasn't found other species physically attractive before.

And who brings wine and music to a fling?    Probably a gigolo, or a ladies' man.  I don't think Garrus is as promiscuous as some people imply, but he's had at least that one experience (which was possibly his first, hence why it was so memorable for him), and likely a few others--though he's fairly young and seems somewhat introverted, so perhaps not.  Granted I doubt that previous experiences involved trying to set a mood with wine and music, but we can't know that--especially if he is a ladies' man who sets out to woo and seduce women into his bed.  It may also be that he's not trying to set a mood at all, but rather hopes that the wine and music will soothe both their nerves enough that they can actually go through with sleeping together.  Either way he's clearly trying too hard.

[MarginalBeast]

Brass_Buckles wrote...
I don't buy into the turians being against interspecies relations thing--I've seen what look like interspecies couples with turians in ME2 and maybe in ME1 as well.  At least one involved a human and turian standing around chatting.

Oh, I don't think turians in general are against it, but perhaps Garrus' family is? It's the only explanation I can think of as to why he keeps saying how crazy they (meaning he and Shepard) are for considering it. If interspecies relationships are common amongst turians (or at least not taboo) then why is he so panicky about it? Clearly sex between turians and humans can't be THAT dangerous or complicated if there are others doing it--enough to have easily accessable videos and guides about it, even.

[ThatDancingTurian]

SavageLycan wrote...

And now, the conclusion (for now at least) of Garrus Effect, with Commander Garrus Shepard!

Ashley is catchin' the Palaven Fever by the looks of things.
"Do you know who I am?! I'm GARRUS B**CH!"
"Can it wait for a while Ashley? I'm the middle of some calibrations."
"Did you ever have a little turian in you? Because you do now."
Commander Garrus prepares to lay down some serious whoop-ass.
FISSION MUCKING ACCOMPLISHED!

And that concludes Garrus Effect for now. Hopefully someone can figure out how to do this with Mass Effect 2 and take some screenies of that.

ROFL. Catching Palaven Fever. Awesome. xD

[ThatDancingTurian]

I for one totally buy that there's a stigma with human/turian relationships. Turians and humans talking is one thing, they could be coworkers or business associates. But there's an obvious and pronounced tension between turians and humans, it comes up a lot in the first game.

[enormousmoonboots]

So, I was thinking about Bioware's datamining feature. The reason Wrex is dead and Garrus is recruited in the default game is apparently because most players did this in their Mass Effect games. Supposedly, a squad member's appearance in the third game will be determined by how often players used them + if they survived + popularity. So, if you want Garrus in ME3, the most you can do right now is stuff the vote box by keeping him in your party at all times and never letting him get killed.

[Brass_Buckles]

MarginalBeast wrote...

Brass_Buckles wrote...
I don't buy into the turians being against interspecies relations thing--I've seen what look like interspecies couples with turians in ME2 and maybe in ME1 as well.  At least one involved a human and turian standing around chatting.

Oh, I don't think turians in general are against it, but perhaps Garrus' family is? It's the only explanation I can think of as to why he keeps saying how crazy they (meaning he and Shepard) are for considering it. If interspecies relationships are common amongst turians (or at least not taboo) then why is he so panicky about it? Clearly sex between turians and humans can't be THAT dangerous or complicated if there are others doing it--enough to have easily accessable videos and guides about it, even.

Well, it is Mordin who's offering up those videos and guides, at least to Shepard.  I suspect that maybe Garrus (or whoever else is your LI) has also gotten the information from Mordin--even if Mordin claims it's due to rumors that he knows, he's sort of sworn to confidentiality with his other patients, too.  He's not exactly going to tell Shepard outright that Garrus/Thane/Tali has been talking to him about how to go about having sex with a human because it would break their confidentiality.  That doesn't mean that the resources are necessarily easily accessible.  They might be from some of those Alliance-banned extranet sites, for instance.  Human/turian porn, anyone?  Makes you wonder why Mordin has so much interspecies relationship aid material on hand.

Actually if turians are all that much like humans, the danger might even be part of the draw.  "We might die if we get physical, but don't you think it would be worth it to be with me?"  And then there's that whole "We were enemies just a few decades ago" aspect of it.

As for Garrus's family being against it--I can buy that, especially if his father (or other family members) were particularly involved in the First Contact War.  I get the feeling that his father is a lot like Executor Pallin--distrustful of humans and outright disliking Spectres.

[Sialater]

Or they extrapolated from Asari.



No, I don't think they take on what's attractive to the eye of the beholder or they'd all look like men to hetero women or they'd all look the same. I think the bachelor party is a red herring.

[Von Verrikan]

More hilarious stuff being posted on Facebook. I love what the people RPing as the crew are doing over there.

[Brass_Buckles]

Von Verrikan wrote...



More hilarious stuff being posted on Facebook. I love what the people RPing as the crew are doing over there.

Hilarious.  I love it.

I'm not on Facebook, however, so I suppose I'll just have to miss out on the awesomeness.  And no, I have no plans on signing up for a Facebook account.  In fact I'm kind of surprised people are allowed to sign up with fictional character names...

[Brass_Buckles]

Meta Ray Mek wrote...

Question: does anyone have any good reference of turian feet?

I swear, I have a reason for asking about this. >_________>

Turian foot fetish?

Joking.  No, I would say that your best reference would be that concept art that's floating around.  I don't think I've ever seen turian feet without some kind of armor/clothing over them otherwise, although I thought maybe one or two might have been bare-footed at the Presidium in ME1.  You could possibly check and see if that is the case.

[MarginalBeast]

Meta Ray Mek wrote...

Question: does anyone have any good reference of turian feet?

I swear, I have a reason for asking about this. >_________>

In casual clothes or armor?

[silentstephi]

Turian feet remind me vaguely of Gargoyle feet... >.>

Even though turians have 2 toes and gargoyles have 3...

It's bizarre and a loose reference and possibly because Anderson and Goliath share a voice actor... but yea. I'll go back to my corner...

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

They look very reptillian, predator like. They remind me of raptor talons but with two toes.

[koucha]

Meta Ray Mek wrote...

Question: does anyone have any good reference of turian feet?

I swear, I have a reason for asking about this. >_________>

http://images2.wikia...ut_armor.jpg ?  I think that's a pretty good reference for pretty much everything

[RiotLaFontaine]

koucha wrote...

Meta Ray Mek wrote...

Question: does anyone have any good reference of turian feet?

I swear, I have a reason for asking about this. >_________>

http://images2.wikia...ut_armor.jpg ?  I think that's a pretty good reference for pretty much everything

The more I look at the naked turian concept art (and believe me, I have studied it), the more details that I notice.  While a slight webbing can be seen between the thumb and forefinger, I notice that it's between the two toes as well.  I used to brush it off as sketchy line work, but now I'm not so sure.

And I for one second the need for turian feet.  I have my reasons.  A naked Garrus may or may not be involved.  Or turians in general.  And specific, like Lork Qui'in, the Councilor, Pallin, Etarn Tiron, Gavorn, Sidonis and so forth . . .

[ThatDancingTurian]

I think it's just sketchiness. And looking through some of the concept art for ME2 has shown me that you can't really take the concept as fact, especially if it's early concept work..

[koucha]

Go with a version of this, sans "shoes", then if you don't feel safe using an early concept art:



http://badpolygon.co...ffect_Saren.jpg

[RiotLaFontaine]

koucha wrote...

Go with a version of this, sans "shoes", then if you don't feel safe using an early concept art:

http://badpolygon.co...ffect_Saren.jpg

I've always liked how Saren had a more "feral" look to his fingers and toes.  Looks like some turians (such as myself) like to grow them out to a more natural state, while others (the seeming majority) trim them.  Possibly social reasons?

Also, I've created a longer-lasting link to the new Garrus Face Fix here: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=03CTD1NA

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

RiotLaFontaine wrote...



 Looks like some turians (such as myself) like to grow them out to a more natural state, while others (the seeming majority) trim them.  Possibly social reasons?

Eh..yeah about that whole you being a turian thing....