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[Steel Dancer]

Nilfalasiel wrote...

LOLandStuff wrote...

Actually, the same thing happened to my Kasumi on her LM. I have no idea why, but she started looking like that when we got into Hock's place and only went back to normal after I got killed and had to reload (damn Insanity mode X_x).

*unstealths*

Apparently she's taking on the 'skin' of the weapon she's using. 'tis a passing strange bug.

umm, also "Yay, Garrus" 

...

*Mordincough*

*restealths*

[janeym27]

On the subject of Garrus' guns (hur hur), I love when the team do the 'simultanious weapon pull' on someone, and Garrus is standing point blank range with his sniper rifle out. Needless? Yes. Totally cool? You betcha. XD



Was anyone else a tad disappointed when they unlocked turian renegade and it said 'If it shoots, Garrus can fire it' (sic), and you still couldn't give him a missile launcher or the widow?

[Sialater]

janeym27 wrote...


Was anyone else a tad disappointed when they unlocked turian renegade and it said 'If it shoots, Garrus can fire it' (sic), and you still couldn't give him a missile launcher or the widow?

~raises hand~

[Xsause]

XSAUSE BUSTS IN WITH AN OFF-TOPIC MESSAGE AND...FAILS! 

I practiced drawing Garrus a bit. It's hard to get the fringe just right.

Modifié par Xsause, 13 mai 2010 - 11:52 .

[kglaser]

silentstephi wrote...

Collider wrote...

Mmmm...new dialog.

Exactly.  I don't care who's saying what (who am I kidding I WANT GARRUS TO TALK TO ME MORE DAMN IT) but having new stuff makes me squee with joy.

And I've just been totally freaked out over at the LJ comm.  Someone was able to type out the System Shock's AI's voice in a post.

HOLY GOD /freaked out

That was cool...I love when people paint with words like that.  Harlan Ellison has a couple stories like that ("The Region Between" and "I Have No Mouth, And I Must Scream" come to mind).  Also used to great effect in the utterly fantastic IF game "Anchorhead".

[Xsause]

kglaser wrote...

silentstephi wrote...

Collider wrote...

Mmmm...new dialog.

Exactly.  I don't care who's saying what (who am I kidding I WANT GARRUS TO TALK TO ME MORE DAMN IT) but having new stuff makes me squee with joy.

And I've just been totally freaked out over at the LJ comm.  Someone was able to type out the System Shock's AI's voice in a post.

HOLY GOD /freaked out

That was cool...I love when people paint with words like that.  Harlan Ellison has a couple stories like that ("The Region Between" and "I Have No Mouth, And I Must Scream" come to mind).  Also used to great effect in the utterly fantastic IF game "Anchorhead".

I loved "I Have No Mouth, And I Must Scream". The game based on it was pretty epic, too.

Modifié par Xsause, 14 mai 2010 - 12:13 .

[irene9876]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

 Hi all.

Not gonna stop in for long because I have no self-control and if I stay, I usually end up doing nothing by obsessing on Garrus for half a day or so (not that's a bad thing, but a body's got to eat and shower.)  I apologize in advance for my response here as some of it is for topics discussed multiple pages ago.

Anyway, a few things.

First, thanks for the Garrus loves Houston and Texas banners!  Now I just have to decide which to use.  Dang you people making me have to pick between such awesomeness!

Second, body bags in Garrus base?  How the heck have I missed that.  Where are they?  Screenshot?

Lastly, on the subject of turian marriage and Garrus pairing with Shep in some permanent fashion.  Well, we have to qualify that it's almost impossible to make any kind of accurate speculation on this front because we just have so little data about it. Here's what I think we know for sure about turian courtship and mating rituals at least what I can think of off the top of my head.

 (For some reason, numbering like this seems to annoy some people because they think it's pretentious or something.  I'm just doing it for the sake of organization.)

1) They have some concept of romantic love or sentimental attachment to members of the opposite gender.  Consider Septimus being so head-over-heels for the Consort and the turian refering to the asari as "honey" in Citadel Souvenirs.  

2) They are quite capable of being attracted to members of different species and forming bonds with them.  (Turian hitting on quarian in Eternity.  Aforementioned Septimus and the turian/asari couple in the gift shop.)  I also think there is some circumstantial evidence that these pairings are not considered deviant or at least the asari ones aren't.  In order to get to the status of general, Septimus would have to be regarded as a pretty "good" turian to get promoted.  It sounds like he's been going to the Consort for quite a while.  When Garrus gets all disgusted with Septimus, it's because he's letting love in general interfere with his work not specifically an asari.  "What could a WOMAN do..."   He doesn't specify "asari" or "alien." This coupled with turian personal freedoms probably translates as "you can screw whoever you like so long as it doesn't interfere with your job."  Now obviously some turians would disapprove of such a pairing as there are plenty of turians who are xenophobic, but I don't think any "official" action could be taken against such a pairing unless it could be proved that the dalliance was driving the turian in question to distraction or somehow keeping him from doing his job.

3) I think we have circumstantial evidence to suggest long-term monogamous relationships occur in turian society.  "I am NOT having the life-span conversation with you!" is only a meaningful statement if the turian plans to stay with the asari for the rest of his life.  If it was just a fling, there would be no need for such a conversation.  "I have a mate and a ship and I only brought one of them to Omega!"  Pretty sure that guy means he left his mate behind and is implying he's gonna do some running around.  He says it in a lecherous/braggy way (or at least I think he does.  Heck, it half seems like he's hitting on femshep there.)  The implication is that his mate would be quite indignant if she knew what he was getting up to on Omega which implies she expects sexual loyalty.

4) Some turians engage in and  are okay with casual sex.  (Reach and flexibility with the recon scout, any number of turians watching asari strippers or going to Consort, several turians that actually hit on femshep)  This again probably factors into the whole "personal freedoms" thing.  So long as it doesn't interfere with your job you can do drugs, screw who you like and so on (within reason, of course.)  "Fewer personal restrictions but more operational discipline" as Garrus puts it. 

5) Turians have some conception of sex being a "private matter" or something more than just a biological function.  Consider how Garrus shuts the doors when Shep comes by the second time to discuss sex.  I don't think he's doing it for her.  She grins there like she thinks him closing the door is funny.  "Damn, saying it that way doesn't help.  Now I feel dirty and clinical."  I think that means he specifically doesn't want to approach sex with Shep like a biological function or just "blowing off steam."  He wants there to be emotion and attachment in it.  Also the quarian and turian in the bar  "Excuse me, human.  Private conversation!"  I know that's for laughs but still.

This part is pure speculation on the use of the term "mate."  I don't recall quarians using the term "husband" and "wife" but but I wouldn't be surprised if they do.  They seem to place a large emphasis on the nuclear family which makes sense given that they have such limited numbers and they have to make sure that the quarian species continues.  I think there's probably quite a lot of pressure in quarian society to have a kid.  Anyway, the only alien race where I know for sure we hear the word "wife" is with the drell. I can see the drell also putting large emphasis on the nuclear family as they also have a fairly limited population.   So we've got humans, drell, and possibly quarians who use some other word besides "mate" to describe pairings.  Those three societies are either very insular, galactic newcomers, or both.  "Husband" and "wife" are very defined terms and such words wouldn't work properly in a society like the asari have.  A word meaning something much more like "partner" would work better for them as asari might form a bond with literally any species or any gender.  I think the same is true of turian society.  They have been space-faring for centuries and maybe in the past they had words meaning specifically "husband" and "wife" but I don't think those words be as applicable anymore.  Again, given turian "personal freedoms" I think they wouldn't care if someone was homosexual.  I think they have mostly gotten over regarding the sexes as unequal (look how many high-ranking females we have examples of on Cerberus Daily News and the like.)  And we have several examples of turians in relationships with other species.  All that considered, a generic word like "mate" just translates better, but the role meant by the term could still very well be the permanent role usually associated in human society with the words "wife" and "husband."  Humans just haven't been in galactic society long enough to get that liberal yet.  We'll catch up in a few hundred years.  That's my opinion anyway.

Wall of text.  I apologize.  (But I will do it again. )

That's very well thought out, and I agree with you. 

On a side note, you can add Batarians to the list of species who marry.  http://masseffect.wi...m/wiki/Logasiri

[kglaser]

This is win(e).





Thanks!

[Pacifien]

kglaser wrote...

This is win(e).


Thanks!

Remove the "don't" and image of redneck Garrus shooting at empty wine bottles in the boondocks of Palavan now.

[Kotori Ky]

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

*SNIP*

Wall of text.  I apologize.  (But I will do it again. )

I agree with this! It's one reason why I have been thinking about writing what has been going through my head all day(and yesterday evening) about Garrus and Shep. Granted, it would be hella pretentious of me, as I'd be creating a courtship/life-bonding scenario for a race without Bioware's writings saying what it is Turians actually do... It's why I am hesitating right now. That and all of the walk of bad fanfics....

[Collider]

I would expect the Turians to have something similar to marriage. But Garrus and fShep are in for the long haul, so no worries.

[kglaser]

Xsause wrote...

I loved "I Have No Mouth, And I Must Scream". The game based on it was pretty epic, too.

Yeah!  I haven't played that in forever.
Hey, what if while he says he's calibrating that whole time Garrus is actually playing old adventure games from the 1990's on Earth?
Shepard:  Got a minute?
Garrus:  Can it wait for a bit?  I'm in the middle of "Phantasmagoria 2".

And belated thanks to Chimervera (many apologies if I spelled that incorrectly) for the Urz banner.  Great!

[Xsause]

Kotori Ky wrote...

Ragabul the Ontarah wrote...

*SNIP*

Wall
of text.  I apologize.  (But I will do it again. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/devil.png[/smilie])

I agreewith this! It's one reason why I have been thinking about writing what has been going through my head all day(and yesterday evening) about Garrus and Shep. Granted, it would be hella pretentious of me, as I'd be creating a courtship/life-bonding scenario for a race without Bioware's writings saying what it is Turians actually do... [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/unsure.png[/smilie] It's why I am hesitating right now. That and all of the walk of bad fanfics....

I once did an intentionally bad cracky fanfic about FemShep and Garrus getting hitched, just to see how far I could push obvious Did Not Do The Research and OOC-ness before I "went too far".

In the end, I managed to do about 8 chapters before I got a review that wasn't "good". And even then it was just someone saying that Shepard, MY Shepard, was OOC.

Oh, great times.

Modifié par Xsause, 14 mai 2010 - 12:41 .

[kglaser]

Well your new chapter on "What is Seen..." is really funny...you got all the references in there. LOL XD

[Collider]

I thought the exact same thing Raga. When you gives you advice he's partly joking. I thought the pamphlets and "positions" thing etc gave it away

[kglaser]

Mordin is great at keeping a straight face though. I just love him as a character.

[Pacifien]

I always took Mordin to be a polymath of great humor. He is my scientific Stephen Fry of the Mass Effect world.

[Xsause]

Have to post this. For science!



{cross-posted from the Motivationals thread by the way, didn't make this one myself.}

And yeah, I don't think Mordin's all about science, either. He's genuinely concerned about you and your chosen LI, but also jokes around a lot in conversations. Like in the one about the Collectors, with Gilbert and Sullivan (YEAH!), or at the end of the sex talk, with the "less alcohol and mood music required" quip.

I really liked him.

Modifié par Xsause, 14 mai 2010 - 12:53 .

[kglaser]

Pacifien wrote...

I always took Mordin to be a polymath of great humor. He is my scientific Stephen Fry of the Mass Effect world.

Heh, I just learned a new word today...I had to go look up "polymath".  And yes, I bet he has accrued an incredible amount of knowledge (on varied topics) even during his short lifespan.

[Kotori Ky]

I always found Mordin to be a joker and more than just numbers and science. That's what he excels at, yes, but if you talk to him all the time... if you take him with you on missions... there is WAY more to him than that. I Mordin.



I'm almost completely finished with my Insanity play and pondering what to do next. Maybe finish the Vanguard playthrough that I started.... Hm.

[kglaser]

I have a Vanguard playthrough I need to finish, too. But I'm having too much fun replaying ME1 atm.