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#21176
Mr.BlazenGlazen

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Sialater wrote...

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

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No, let's not retaliate, that way lies flame wars and banning.


Not flame them silly, we show them a trippy garrus picture of our own.


They might find something WORSE to send back.

you have a point:?

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Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

Sialater wrote...

No, let's not retaliate, that way lies flame wars and banning.


Not flame them silly, we show them a trippy garrus picture of our own.


They might find something WORSE to send back.

you have a point:?


These ARE the Talimancers, BG. ;)

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Clan Vakarian vs. Talimancers



Who is the Deadliest Warrior?

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Talimancers are able to post ridiculously fast and has large numbers, but clan vakarian has a large number of alcholics and psychos due to drinking to much garrus's wine and mountain due. Clan vakarian also has the tendency to post walls of text.

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Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

Clan Vakarian vs. Talimancers

Who is the Deadliest Warrior?
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Talimancers are able to post ridiculously fast and has large numbers, but clan vakarian has a large number of alcholics and psychos due to drinking to much garrus's wine and mountain due. Clan vakarian also has the tendency to post walls of text.


We avoid Rule 34 pictures, though.  At least the tasteless ones.

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Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

Clan Vakarian vs. Talimancers

Who is the Deadliest Warrior?
Posted Image

Talimancers are able to post ridiculously fast and has large numbers, but clan vakarian has a large number of alcholics and psychos due to drinking to much garrus's wine and mountain due. Clan vakarian also has the tendency to post walls of text.

Woo doesn’t like that vs. **** be careful.

#21181
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Sand King wrote...

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

Clan Vakarian vs. Talimancers

Who is the Deadliest Warrior?
Posted Image

Talimancers are able to post ridiculously fast and has large numbers, but clan vakarian has a large number of alcholics and psychos due to drinking to much garrus's wine and mountain due. Clan vakarian also has the tendency to post walls of text.

Woo doesn’t like that vs. **** be careful.


And he also hates The Deadliest Warrior. A show with only vs stuff?! That's outrageous!

#21182
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I've planned out a lot of Shepards, but not many will have confrontations... just Kaidan/Jacob and Ashley/Miranda, except for my Evil Shepard. His will be an epic confrontation of Liara, Miranda, and Morinth. He might prefer fighting the Reapers to this. Good thing he's a very powerful Adept who always keeps the Cain with him.

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Because no where in the conversation does Sidonus say what he did was wrong, I don't think he's redeemable.
But, that's just my opinion.
Other's may vary.


No, he doesnt say "What I did was wrong". You have to read between the lines. He says "I know what I did. I know they died because of me, and I have to live with that" which results in a major depressive episode. He has nightmares, food doesn't taste good anymore, wants to die. Someone who has no problem with what he's done don't experience this. I can almost diagnose him with PTSD.

But yeah, long live opinions. I can't believe I'm still going on about this :D

When my Earthborn Ruthless Shepard goes through this conversation (he'll make Sidonis talk and then let Garrus kill him), he would just smile and say, "Good." Too bad that's probably not an option. xD And no, the Earthborn Ruthless is not Evil Shepard. He's Renegon.

My favorite thing about Mass Effect is the many different ways it can be played. :D

Also, that new Garrus banner is awesome.

#21183
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i'm not going to post a thread about don't worry guys. lol

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This is what I do when I'm bored:

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Xsause wrote...

This is what I do when I'm bored:

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Is that moving picture Happy Garrus?

#21186
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Eh, it can be argued too that I don't think he even thinks what he did was wrong. But I'd have to gather my brain cells for that one to make sense. (Talking about Sid.)



I know it's a dead horse, one that even I kind of just roll my eyes at, the whole Garrus turning into Saren thing (of which I'm of the opinion that Shepard is much more of a candidate for that than Garrus ever would be...) but if there's an unsavory turian that Garrus had the potential of turning out to be...

It's Warden Kuril.

Think about it. Kuril was a law enforcement officer on Palaven, then went Merc to keep the baddies in space. It probably started out as his "righteous" goal, but the power, or money, turned him. Something made him go sour. But his original reasons ring true for a Garrus who wants justice in the galaxy and can't be bothered with red tape/stupid governments to make the "hard choices" and keep criminals in jail.

Thoughts?

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Kim Shepard wrote...

Xsause wrote...

This is what I do when I'm bored:

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Is that moving picture Happy Garrus?


Yep. B)

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silentstephi wrote...

Eh, it can be argued too that I don't think he even thinks what he did was wrong. But I'd have to gather my brain cells for that one to make sense. (Talking about Sid.)

I know it's a dead horse, one that even I kind of just roll my eyes at, the whole Garrus turning into Saren thing (of which I'm of the opinion that Shepard is much more of a candidate for that than Garrus ever would be...) but if there's an unsavory turian that Garrus had the potential of turning out to be...
It's Warden Kuril.
Think about it. Kuril was a law enforcement officer on Palaven, then went Merc to keep the baddies in space. It probably started out as his "righteous" goal, but the power, or money, turned him. Something made him go sour. But his original reasons ring true for a Garrus who wants justice in the galaxy and can't be bothered with red tape/stupid governments to make the "hard choices" and keep criminals in jail.
Thoughts?

It's a possiblity, yea. I just hope they don't go that route with Garrus if you renegaded him. For one thing that would mean my canon Shepard would no longer have the same Garrus to brofist with. For another thing I'd probably consider making Garrus like Kuril as character assassination. I'd rather renegading Garrus either keep him as is (since Shepar is basically just agreeing with him anyway) or just makes him more ruthless while dealing with criminals, a little less tolerance for their sins.

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hey Garrus folks, how's it going? Anything new and exciting being talked about?

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silentstephi wrote...

Eh, it can be argued too that I don't think he even thinks what he did was wrong. But I'd have to gather my brain cells for that one to make sense. (Talking about Sid.)

I know it's a dead horse, one that even I kind of just roll my eyes at, the whole Garrus turning into Saren thing (of which I'm of the opinion that Shepard is much more of a candidate for that than Garrus ever would be...) but if there's an unsavory turian that Garrus had the potential of turning out to be...
It's Warden Kuril.
Think about it. Kuril was a law enforcement officer on Palaven, then went Merc to keep the baddies in space. It probably started out as his "righteous" goal, but the power, or money, turned him. Something made him go sour. But his original reasons ring true for a Garrus who wants justice in the galaxy and can't be bothered with red tape/stupid governments to make the "hard choices" and keep criminals in jail.
Thoughts?


I thought of that, too, when I did Jack's recruitment mission recently.  Especially if he could rationalize the money as being needed to fund his efforts at cleaning up the galaxy.

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Andaius20 wrote...

hey Garrus folks, how's it going? Anything new and exciting being talked about?

We're currently talking about how renegading Garrus may affect him in ME3.

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I honestly don't think a Garrus in Shepard's orbit, whether renegade or paragon, would slide that far, though.

#21193
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I agree about Shepard being more likely to turn into Saren. Some of the options in-game remind me of something Saren would do, aside from the obvious krogan/geth/rachni army and Shepard's new cybernetic implants. I could see some of my Shepards becoming like him (not joining the Reapers, but joining a potentially evil organization and letting them use Reaper tech is close enough for my comparison), but not Garrus. He still wants justice, and to protect innocents - for Shepard, that may or may not be true.

I don't think he would become like Warden Kuril either. Giant prison in space? Maybe. Selling off criminals to whoever pays the most credits? No. Once he caught the criminals (although, if Shepard pushes him Renegade, he'd be more likely to just kill them), he wouldn't let them go. For all Kuril knows, most of those criminals were probably bought by wealthy crime bosses to commit more crimes.

Xsause wrote...

Kim Shepard wrote...

Xsause wrote...

This is what I do when I'm bored:

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Is that moving picture Happy Garrus?


Yep. B)

Awesome. :D

Modifié par Kim Shepard, 20 mai 2010 - 08:07 .


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Well if you go by ME 1 to ME 2 conversion, Garrus will always go renegade. I paragoned him in ME 1 and he does the same thing as a renegade me 1 play through would. So I'd say Garrus has a natural affinity to being renegade unless Shepard dissuades him constantly.

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I can see the Warden Kuril thing but I highly doubt Garrus would sell the prisoners off as slaves. I see Garrus as being more like Dirty Harry (though he has some competition from Blasto the first Hanar Spectre...)

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It's not that I think Garrus would follow EXACTLY in Kuril's footsteps. But more like, Kuril is an example of someone who started off with the right reasons/goal but either time, money or power has soured them.

I don't think Garrus would have the inclination to start his own Purgatory 2.0. Just that considering Turian mindset and that there's others out there who also don't have the patience for bureaucrats.


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Huh, I must be weird for not renegading Garrus, I usually paragoned him

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I know this is a big change of topic, but I was just playing ME1 and I want to make sure my poor MaleShep didn't just romance Ashley by mistake. She told him the story about her grandfather, and when he said "Your part of the team. I don't care what your grandfather did.", she gave the "You're the first CO to say that. Thanks, skipper." response. She still called Shepard "Sir" when he walks away though... so is he safe?

But it was amusing to see my Earthborn Shepard tell her "Not everyone's as close to their family as you." after she said she didn't buy Liara's story about not talking to her mother in years. xD

I tried to be pretty careful in his conversation with Liara too. He chose quite a few of the lines that say he doesn't completely trust her yet because of Benezia ("We'll see" and "Maybe she's just evil" are the two I remember). At the part where she sounds like she wants to study him, he took the middle "that was a joke" option.

On topic... I still think Garrus is more of a "Paragade", even when Shepard chooses both Renegade options on his missions. Sometimes he'll sacrifice innocents for the good of the mission, like how he wanted to shoot down Saleon's ship with the hostages inside - but like he said, Saleon was just going to experiment on those people, and they were probably wishing they were dead anyway. The way he saw it, more people were going to die in the long run if they let Saleon escape. Anyway, I doubt Garrus will even get as bad as Renegade Shepard.

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silentstephi wrote...

It's not that I think Garrus would follow EXACTLY in Kuril's footsteps. But more like, Kuril is an example of someone who started off with the right reasons/goal but either time, money or power has soured them.
I don't think Garrus would have the inclination to start his own Purgatory 2.0. Just that considering Turian mindset and that there's others out there who also don't have the patience for bureaucrats.


Well consitering his actions in ME 2 he would need a jail he would just kill them all.

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Talifan wrote...

Huh, I must be weird for not renegading Garrus, I usually paragoned him

Actually, I think more people in this thread paragoned him.

Unless all of the Shepards I have planned out are counted as individuals. That would throw the balance way off. xD