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And bring on the conflict! Garrus having a conflict of interest and pulling a "Wrex"-type scene where you have to talk him down. Whether or not his family comes into it, a species-ist discrimination against your relationship from outside forces. Having not only to choose between LIs or squadmate, but up the ante something fierce so it's not an ME1 rehash.



Me, I say BW is doing a really awesome job so far. We were beyond thrilled to find out our Garrus fanaticism was acknowledged so well in ME2. I will hold out hope to be similarly pleasantly surprised in 2011.

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aynxalot wrote...

And bring on the conflict! Garrus having a conflict of interest and pulling a "Wrex"-type scene where you have to talk him down. Whether or not his family comes into it, a species-ist discrimination against your relationship from outside forces. Having not only to choose between LIs or squadmate, but up the ante something fierce so it's not an ME1 rehash.

Me, I say BW is doing a really awesome job so far. We were beyond thrilled to find out our Garrus fanaticism was acknowledged so well in ME2. I will hold out hope to be similarly pleasantly surprised in 2011.


I hope not, I don't even want to think that something like Wrex's mess on Virmire could happen with Garrus. I don't want to have to point a gun at him or him pointing a gun at Shepard.

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Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

aynxalot wrote...

And bring on the conflict! Garrus having a conflict of interest and pulling a "Wrex"-type scene where you have to talk him down. Whether or not his family comes into it, a species-ist discrimination against your relationship from outside forces. Having not only to choose between LIs or squadmate, but up the ante something fierce so it's not an ME1 rehash.

Me, I say BW is doing a really awesome job so far. We were beyond thrilled to find out our Garrus fanaticism was acknowledged so well in ME2. I will hold out hope to be similarly pleasantly surprised in 2011.


I hope not, I don't even want to think that something like Wrex's mess on Virmire could happen with Garrus. I don't want to have to point a gun at him or him pointing a gun at Shepard.


Maybe not quite THAT sort of situation (that involves guns pointed at each other). But I think that some sort of confrontation scene would be very interesting (especially if it involved a relationship, though that's less likely. <3) and I'd be thrilled to see something like that in ME3.

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Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

aynxalot wrote...

And bring on the conflict! Garrus having a conflict of interest and pulling a "Wrex"-type scene where you have to talk him down. Whether or not his family comes into it, a species-ist discrimination against your relationship from outside forces. Having not only to choose between LIs or squadmate, but up the ante something fierce so it's not an ME1 rehash.

Me, I say BW is doing a really awesome job so far. We were beyond thrilled to find out our Garrus fanaticism was acknowledged so well in ME2. I will hold out hope to be similarly pleasantly surprised in 2011.


I hope not, I don't even want to think that something like Wrex's mess on Virmire could happen with Garrus. I don't want to have to point a gun at him or him pointing a gun at Shepard.


Ah- to clarify, I didn't mean something as violent as that. I can't imagine Garrus pulling a gun on Shepard (unless it's some ploy to fool a common enemy or whatever). But being put into a tight place where he has to choose between something he believes powerfully in, and...Shepard. Normally your squadmates may disagree with you but rarely push it any farther- well I wanna see it go farther! Garrus effectively stopping you (or at least trying to stop you) from making some controversial decision, even forcefully.

I know, I know- he's so very loyal, I'm just saying that conflict makes a more interesting story. I think BW could do it right.

Edit: ridiculous number of typos

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It'd be impressed if anyone stopped Shepard at anything... Shep kinda has that "Free Pass, Don't F**** With Me" thing going on.

And I don't think that's so unbelievable, there's a difference between being loyal to someone and stopping them from doing something you consider wrong or plain old stupid.

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My Garrus lithograph arrived today - I scored #99 out of the 300 they made :D

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Castanea wrote...

It'd be impressed if anyone stopped Shepard at anything... Shep kinda has that "Free Pass, Don't F**** With Me" thing going on.
And I don't think that's so unbelievable, there's a difference between being loyal to someone and stopping them from doing something you consider wrong or plain old stupid.


Yes. Precisely. And to clarify further, the reason Garrus would never pull a gun on Shep is not just because he'd never use it, but because Shep *knows* he'd never use it. And possibly get fairly pissed that he'd do such a thing, after everything. No one with an IQ over 90 wants to ****** off Shepard. Posted Image

But yeah, I'm kind of surprised when my squadmates, especially with powerfully Renegade actions and more Paragon-ish people (Samara, anyone?) gives me a "What the Hell, hero?" but ultimately does nothing. Nothing at all.

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aynxalot wrote...

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

aynxalot wrote...

And bring on the conflict! Garrus having a conflict of interest and pulling a "Wrex"-type scene where you have to talk him down. Whether or not his family comes into it, a species-ist discrimination against your relationship from outside forces. Having not only to choose between LIs or squadmate, but up the ante something fierce so it's not an ME1 rehash.

Me, I say BW is doing a really awesome job so far. We were beyond thrilled to find out our Garrus fanaticism was acknowledged so well in ME2. I will hold out hope to be similarly pleasantly surprised in 2011.


I hope not, I don't even want to think that something like Wrex's mess on Virmire could happen with Garrus. I don't want to have to point a gun at him or him pointing a gun at Shepard.


Ah- to clarify, I didn't mean something as violent as that. I can't imagine Garrus pulling a gun on Shepard (unless it's some ploy to fool a common enemy or whatever). But being put into a tight place where he has to choose between something he believes powerfully in, and...Shepard. Normally your squadmates may disagree with you but rarely push it any farther- well I wanna see it go farther! Garrus effectively stopping you (or at least trying to stop you) from making some controversial decision, even forcefully.

I know, I know- he's so very loyal, I'm just saying that conflict makes a more interesting story. I think BW could do it right.

Edit: ridiculous number of typos



Since you put it that way then yes I agree. It would be interesting to see Garrus stoping Shepard instead of Shepard stopping him. What could they put though? I have no idea what they could do to make him try to stop you. I'd understand if he would try to stop Shepard from performing a Renegade action but what about Paragons. I'd like him to stop me from doing something even if I'm a Paragon.

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Shepard: That's it. The Turian Councilor has pissed me off and risked the lives of the entire galaxy for the last time. Time to grease this ****.

Garrus: *Whips out rifle* Shepard, you can't do that, I won't let you!

Shepard: * B!tch, please expression* *Greases herself a turian*

Garrus:.......Damn you, commander.

Shepard: S'okay, Gar-hun. I'll make it up to you later. Now put that away before someone puts an eye out.

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Ladies and gentlemen:

YOU'VE BEEN GARRUS ROLL'D


Hahahaha :o that's great!
And Bioware make me to dance alone in Me2 <_< with Garrus as LI! Better for them to bring back Me1 dancing with your LI in Me3! :happy:

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aynxalot wrote...

Shepard: That's it. The Turian Councilor has pissed me off and risked the lives of the entire galaxy for the last time. Time to grease this ****.

Garrus: *Whips out rifle* Shepard, you can't do that, I won't let you!

Shepard: * B!tch, please expression* *Greases herself a turian*

Garrus:.......Damn you, commander.

Shepard: S'okay, Gar-hun. I'll make it up to you later. Now put that away before someone puts an eye out.


Turian Councilor: Why have you brought me here Shepard? W-.. wait, why are we in an air lock!?
Shepard: Ah, yes, 'air locks' we've dismissed that claim. -closes door, releases air lock- :devil:

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Perhaps a situation will arise in which someone has greatly wronged Shepard, and Garrus will try to persuade her to spare that person (if you turned him paragon) or kill him/her (if you turned him renegade).

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Also, I wanted to mention something. We all know that Jacob has extra dialogue after the suicide mission, but what I didn't notice until now is that you can actually break it off with him during that conversation. At least, I assume that's what happens if you pick "I'm calling it off".



I really wonder why they didn't do this for the other love interests. I feel that the Garrus romance especially could have benefited from something like this. It seems like it would have been the perfect opportunity to either tell him that you definitely have feelings for him or that you were only in it for the sex. Either way it'd have given the romance some more closure.



Oh well. Here's hoping that the romances in ME3 are treated a little more equally (or for a patch, but I know that will never happen).

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MarginalBeast wrote...

Perhaps a situation will arise in which someone has greatly wronged Shepard, and Garrus will try to persuade her to spare that person (if you turned him paragon) or kill him/her (if you turned him renegade).


That would be interesting. Although many people have wronged Shepard, that could be a very long list. I wonder who would be at the top of the list. Maybe the Illusive Man is the one that could do something stupid to ****** of Shepard. Who'd want to save that crazy man though? I wonder what would happen if you don't do what Garrus says? I can imagine a very angry Garrus shouting at Shepard because she/he went against everything she/he taught him.

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My Garrus lithograph arrived today - I scored #99 out of the 300 they made :D


Why couldn't they have made like 1000.

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Castanea wrote...

It'd be impressed if anyone stopped Shepard at anything... Shep kinda has that "Free Pass, Don't F**** With Me" thing going on.
And I don't think that's so unbelievable, there's a difference between being loyal to someone and stopping them from doing something you consider wrong or plain old stupid.


Horizon.  HORRRRIIIIIIIIIZZZZOOOON. :P

ME3:

Garrus: No, Shepard.  I can't let you do this.

Shepard: Garrus, you know me.  You know I'm doing this for the right reasons.

Garrus: This isn't you, Commander!

Shepard: ....

Garrus: ....

Shepard: ...You're right.  Thanks for taking a stand, Garrus.

Garrus: You're not mad at me for confronting you?

Shepard:  Hell no!  Let's go back to my quarters and make with the hot interspecies bangbang!

Kaidan: .....WHAT THE HELL, SHEPARD?!

Shepard:  Eh.  You were just being a douche on Horizon.  Garrus was being noble and true to my ideals.

Kaidan: HOW DOES THAT EVEN BEGIN TO MAKE SENSE.

Shepard:  Eh.*shrug*  Let's go, Garrus.  I got me some tension to ease.

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Splinter Cell 108 wrote...



MarginalBeast wrote...



Perhaps a situation will arise in which someone has greatly wronged Shepard, and Garrus will try to persuade her to spare that person (if you turned him paragon) or kill him/her (if you turned him renegade).




That would be interesting. Although many people have wronged Shepard, that could be a very long list. I wonder who would be at the top of the list. Maybe the Illusive Man is the one that could do something stupid to ****** of Shepard. Who'd want to save that crazy man though? I wonder what would happen if you don't do what Garrus says? I can imagine a very angry Garrus shouting at Shepard because she/he went against everything she/he taught him.




Nah, it couldn't be anyone as major as TIM since Garrus won't be in everyone's ME3 game. I was thinking something more along the lines of a quest that is specific to him.



Honestly I have no idea who the person could be, I was just throwing out an idea. I suppose they could possibly make it background-based but that might require too much work.

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MarginalBeast wrote...

Splinter Cell 108 wrote...

MarginalBeast wrote...

Perhaps a situation will arise in which someone has greatly wronged Shepard, and Garrus will try to persuade her to spare that person (if you turned him paragon) or kill him/her (if you turned him renegade).


That would be interesting. Although many people have wronged Shepard, that could be a very long list. I wonder who would be at the top of the list. Maybe the Illusive Man is the one that could do something stupid to ****** of Shepard. Who'd want to save that crazy man though? I wonder what would happen if you don't do what Garrus says? I can imagine a very angry Garrus shouting at Shepard because she/he went against everything she/he taught him.


Nah, it couldn't be anyone as major as TIM since Garrus won't be in everyone's ME3 game. I was thinking something more along the lines of a quest that is specific to him.

Honestly I have no idea who the person could be, I was just throwing out an idea. I suppose they could possibly make it background-based but that might require too much work.


How about someone both Shepard and Garrus know?  The turian councilor, Executor Pallin, Udina...

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siltsonata wrote...

Castanea wrote...

It'd be impressed if anyone stopped Shepard at anything... Shep kinda has that "Free Pass, Don't F**** With Me" thing going on.
And I don't think that's so unbelievable, there's a difference between being loyal to someone and stopping them from doing something you consider wrong or plain old stupid.


Horizon.  HORRRRIIIIIIIIIZZZZOOOON. :P

ME3:

Garrus: No, Shepard.  I can't let you do this.

Shepard: Garrus, you know me.  You know I'm doing this for the right reasons.

Garrus: This isn't you, Commander!

Shepard: ....

Garrus: ....

Shepard: ...You're right.  Thanks for taking a stand, Garrus.

Garrus: You're not mad at me for confronting you?

Shepard:  Hell no!  Let's go back to my quarters and make with the hot interspecies bangbang!

Kaidan: .....WHAT THE HELL, SHEPARD?!

Shepard:  Eh.  You were just being a douche on Horizon.  Garrus was being noble and true to my ideals.

Kaidan: HOW DOES THAT EVEN BEGIN TO MAKE SENSE.

Shepard:  Eh.*shrug*  Let's go, Garrus.  I got me some tension to ease.


I agree with this. After Horizon I consider Kaidan fired, I can't believe he said all that crap. Well either way I was going to cheat on him anyways. Garrus is just too awesome.

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siltsonata wrote...

Castanea wrote...

It'd be impressed if anyone stopped Shepard at anything... Shep kinda has that "Free Pass, Don't F**** With Me" thing going on.
And I don't think that's so unbelievable, there's a difference between being loyal to someone and stopping them from doing something you consider wrong or plain old stupid.


Horizon.  HORRRRIIIIIIIIIZZZZOOOON. :P

ME3:

Garrus: No, Shepard.  I can't let you do this.

Shepard: Garrus, you know me.  You know I'm doing this for the right reasons.

Garrus: This isn't you, Commander!

Shepard: ....

Garrus: ....

Shepard: ...You're right.  Thanks for taking a stand, Garrus.

Garrus: You're not mad at me for confronting you?

Shepard:  Hell no!  Let's go back to my quarters and make with the hot interspecies bangbang!

Kaidan: .....WHAT THE HELL, SHEPARD?!

Shepard:  Eh.  You were just being a douche on Horizon.  Garrus was being noble and true to my ideals.

Kaidan: HOW DOES THAT EVEN BEGIN TO MAKE SENSE.

Shepard:  Eh.*shrug*  Let's go, Garrus.  I got me some tension to ease.


This wins for three reasons, 1. You made an example of my point. 2. You called out Kaidan for being douche. 3. You used ' hot interspecies bangbang' :wizard:

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I really can't see Garrus turning on Shep for anything less than, say, becoming a crime lord or allying with the Reapers. Garrus doesn't have any big things left in life to believe in, aside from Shepard. He quit C-Sec/Spectres, has a poor relationship with his father, even being Batman didn't work out for him. Justice, maybe? Garrus isn't very abstract; he prefers results where he can see and quantify them. But the game doesn't really let you be bad; Paragon or Renegade, Shepard is a hero.

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You know I've been wondering. I wonder who will survive into ME3 with a default no import game. Tali and Garrus better darnit.



I'm really curious if ME3 will be about uniting the galaxy, and hopefully getting the idiots on the council replaced. That way you recruit someone each time you get a culture behind you. Someone has to happen AGAIN to Shepard for the start of ME3. We need another excuse to remake his/her face. (Personally I think TIM will kidnap Shepard and inject him/her with reaper tech like is in that book.)



Though if its a year later then Thane will be dead. I don't see that happening.



That way we can go to Palavern and get Garrus again and maybe meet his parents.

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 Oh noooooooo Fail!Silt is Fail!  :(  This is why we can't have nice things!

I was actually using the 'ol joke to point out that the situation wouldn't be so different from Horizon,  and yet people got mad at Kaidan for essentially what we're wanting Garrus to do here.
....I guess the difference must be that Garrus would be badass about it, not whine like a ****. :bandit:


(In any case, it wasn't Kaidan for my encounter, it was Ashley.  And that felt super-in character for her. I can sort of see and understand why people who had Kaidan might be upset.  But Ashley was 100% her to a T, and I wouldn't have it any other way.)

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siltsonata wrote...
(In any case, it wasn't Kaidan for my encounter, it was Ashley.  And that felt super-in character for her. I can sort of see and understand why people who had Kaidan might be upset.  But Ashley was 100% her to a T, and I wouldn't have it any other way.)


Same. Even though Ashley is a good friend (or was, I guess) to my Shepard, and it hurt to hear her say those things, it made sense to me. Though if I were a male who had romanced her I'd probably feel differently.

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shnellegaming wrote...

You know I've been wondering. I wonder who will survive into ME3 with a default no import game. Tali and Garrus better darnit.

I'm really curious if ME3 will be about uniting the galaxy, and hopefully getting the idiots on the council replaced. That way you recruit someone each time you get a culture behind you. Someone has to happen AGAIN to Shepard for the start of ME3. We need another excuse to remake his/her face. (Personally I think TIM will kidnap Shepard and inject him/her with reaper tech like is in that book.)

Though if its a year later then Thane will be dead. I don't see that happening.

That way we can go to Palavern and get Garrus again and maybe meet his parents.



Actually I've thought about that and if BioWare wants to make more money they would have them dead for the default playthrough. This way whoever didn't buy ME1 or  just ME2 will be forced to buy it in order for them to know who those two characters were.