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[Cerrydd]

Pacifien wrote...

While the news is written by Bioware, the comments on that site are done by fans.

I know, but we've always been pleading for moar turian culture. And BANG, a lot of turian news there. But I do wonder if this is just entertainment or if this is any indication of what we'll get in ME3, like Stephi said.

Anyhow, it's nice that they take the time to write these little articles. All turian information is very welcome

[Pacifien]

I like the tidbits we learn on the Cerberus Daily News as well. Names of other Spectres, new species, how the Council reacts to problems that don't affect humans. But the link I gave leads to a fan-run site that also adds comments done in character to the universe, which is why I like it.

[Sialater]

Those comments are great!

[Andaius20]

hey folks checking in, everyone like my Garrus pic dump?

[Sialater]

Pacifien wrote...

I like the tidbits we learn on the Cerberus Daily News as well. Names of other Spectres, new species, how the Council reacts to problems that don't affect humans. But the link I gave leads to a fan-run site that also adds comments done in character to the universe, which is why I like it.

Yes, but is all of this canon?

[Pacifien]

Sialater wrote...

Pacifien wrote...
I like the tidbits we learn on the Cerberus Daily News as well. Names of other Spectres, new species, how the Council reacts to problems that don't affect humans. But the link I gave leads to a fan-run site that also adds comments done in character to the universe, which is why I like it.

Yes, but is all of this canon?

Since Bioware is writing the news, I'd like to think it's canon. The comments certainly aren't, though.

[Sialater]

Pacifien wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Pacifien wrote...
I like the tidbits we learn on the Cerberus Daily News as well. Names of other Spectres, new species, how the Council reacts to problems that don't affect humans. But the link I gave leads to a fan-run site that also adds comments done in character to the universe, which is why I like it.

Yes, but is all of this canon?

Since Bioware is writing the news, I'd like to think it's canon. The comments certainly aren't, though.

Of course not.  

Just as long as they don't pull a LucasArts and have "rankings" of canon.

[Collider]

Here's something fun (possibly) to discuss.

Why did your Shepard romance Garrus? Roleplaying wise.

Other Shepards can be talked about as well.

[Sialater]

Collider wrote...

Here's something fun (possibly) to discuss.

Why did your Shepard romance Garrus? Roleplaying wise.

Other Shepards can be talked about as well.

Kaidan broke Meghan's heart.  She's never been quick to trust and she trusted him.  She's had a hellish past, an abusive father, losing her unit and her first love on Akuze, she had walls Fort Knox would envy.  He got past the barriers but then knocked the walls down with Horizon. 

She never saw Garrus coming.

[janeym27]

Collider wrote...

Here's something fun (possibly) to discuss.

Why did your Shepard romance Garrus? Roleplaying wise.

Other Shepards can be talked about as well.

She's been through hell. Twice. She grew up orphaned, she lost her unit at Akuze, then lead the fight against Saren. She's used to putting up a tough front. Kaiden got to her more than she intended, and she actually started to let her guard down a little. She had a good team, a mission and purpose, and people she trusted implicitly. Then she 'died', and all that disappeared. After Horizen, she felt like Kaiden betrayed her. The squad she felt sure would rally to her side had not come when she called, and the person she trusted most in the universe had actually accused her of betraying him.

Garrus had already caught her by surprise. They were close before her death, but it was really a very professional relationship. No one she'd rather have at her back in a firefight, but he had barriers of his own, so they were never close in an emotional sense. She felt like he looked up to her. The Garrus she found on Omega was different. Yes, he was tired and broken, but he refused to give up, and there was more confidence and independence there than there had been before (when the poor guy was lost without his manuals at times). And he was damn focused. He'd also been through some things that were quite similar to her (lost his squad, felt betrayal.. had no where else in the galaxy to go). More than any of this, though, was that she realised that of all the people she had trusted, he was the only one who had come through for her: come when she called him. He had her back on Horizon, and he trusted her judgement (even if he questioned it at times). She needed someone to keep her sane and attached to the life she had had, and he was there. And the Sidonus thing... well, he needed her for the same reason.

She actually didn't mean to do it, but the words slipped out during a conversation, and what started as a joke was, she quickly realised, much more than that. Once the idea was out there, it just felt right. There was a bond of trust there that no-one else in the galaxy shared with them. If she's going through hell again, at least she's not going to come out alone.

Also, he fought damn well (action turns her on), and, well, that voice isn't too hard on the ears either. 


Ha ha. Essay explanation for what I could probably have said in a couple of lines. To (mis)quote Jerry Maguire (again): She completes him, and vice versa. <3

[Cerrydd]

Collider wrote...

Here's something fun (possibly) to discuss.

Why did your Shepard romance Garrus? Roleplaying wise.

Other Shepards can be talked about as well.

Why? Because I am Shepard and I love Garrus? It's so easy to answer when you're playing as yourself . For me, the one I want a relationship with must be able to make me laugh. Otherwise it's a no-go. That's why I went with Liara in ME1; her social awkwardness cracked me up. Plus, she was cute.

Garrus was already a friend. Plus, he's  funny and awesome. And he has a.... no, let's not go there. But seriously, Garrus is the only real LI for me (and my Shep). Thane's romance is too dramatic for me. Jacob's romance made me laugh, but in the wrong way. Liara was adorable imo, but she lacked that badassness of Garrus. His personality is much more interesting to me. Garrus + my Shep makes sense. He's someone who gives me the feeling that you can be yourself when you're around him. It feels safe, comfortable and solid.

Weeeee, Garrus

[Pacifien]

Collider wrote...
Here's something fun (possibly) to discuss.

Why did your Shepard romance Garrus? Roleplaying wise.

Other Shepards can be talked about as well.

One of my Shepards isn't much for long-term romance. Kaidan was a good enough relationship, but death, two years, and different paths ended that one. It was sad, but not gut-wrenching, world-ending, because this Shepard has had relationships come and go, some meaningful and special, some not. People move on.

So now she's on a suicide mission, though she's a bit cocky and thinks she'll get through just fine. By her side is her dear friend Garrus, tension is mounting, stress needs relieving. It's a friends with benefits thing. Perhaps, now that they both have made it out the other side of the Omega 4 Mass Relay, this relationship could turn into something more. But for now, they're two people up against a world that does nothing but barrage them with turmoil, so they look to each other for support. As really good friends.

Depending on how it goes in ME3, that Shepard might be horrified to learn this friends with benefits relationship has come to mean more to her than she intended, but we'll see. Even if it ended, the friendship would remain strong.

Most of my Shepards don't romance Garrus. He's been friend-zoned. The sort of friend that probably makes potential love interests jealous because Shepard doesn't look at them with quite the same zeal that she displays when she and Garrus are working on their sniper rifles. Mmm, M-98 Widow Anti-Material Rifle, is there any man that truly compares to you?

[battlechantress]

RPGmom28 wrote...

Cerrydd wrote...

I never saw it as cheating, I see it as moving on. I've been dead for two years, and I know it probably felt like a couple of months to Shepard, but for the rest it depends on how you play your Shepard. My relationship with Liara is over. To me, at least. You don't get the opportunity to break it off, so she can interpret this however she wants. I don't think this will make Garrus less loyal. He was there on the first Normandy when I was romancing Liara, he was there when I first saw her on Illium and he saw the kiss. BW probably didn't think of possible consequences of having your 'future' LI in your party when you meet her, but he should know about this. It's likely we'll get a confrontation in ME3 with both your LI's, but for Garrus, the mission comes first. It depends on what you choose. If you dump him, it might hurt him, but he will never leave because he knows what has to be done. If you choose him, the romance will (hopefully) continue.

I hope the paragoning/renegading thing with Garrus really pays off in ME3, but I don't know what to expect. We don't know what will happen, so I have no clue how this influence will show, except for the epilogue. Renegading Garrus might result in him becoming a Spectre in the end, but he will never go rogue like Saren in a way that he (and maybe Shepard) will be hunted by another Spectre. Spectres are above the law, but you have to do some real mean **** to get in trouble.

Paragoning Garrus might get him back into C-Sec.

I certainly agree that being consistent with paragoning/renegading him could help him decide where his place is in the galaxy. He is a very impulsive and passionate person, so neutral responses won't really guide him. He has learned a lot during ME1 and ME2 (and ME3 I guess), let's see him put this to practice. Well, I hope he learned a lot .

And Garrus betraying Shepard? Not in a million years. He hated Sidonis' guts for doing what he did, he's not going to do the same to the person he respects most. Unless BW pulls some lame trick.

I know this is from a few pages back, but I am catching up this morning.  I couldn't agree more about Kaidan and Garrus.  If the writers wanted us to feel every last aching bit of Shepard's heart being trampled into tiny squashed pieces on Horizon, they did it.  I had a lump in my throat for the poor girl.  The way she's just left standing there after being called a traitor is just sickening.  And I really, really like Kaidan in ME1.  But he loses faith in Shepard, clearly, as if he's never known her, and Garrus not only stands by her side but defends her if he's included in the Horizon squad.  It couldn't have been more clearly a breakup to me.  My Shepard says, "Goodbye, Kaidan."  That gal's heart is really broken.  I can just see Garrus putting a hand on her shoulder to comfort her as he stands beside her there.

Then there's this perfect realization that happens at one point.  Hey.  This Garrus fellow has been her best friend, the one that trusted her instinctively because no one knew her better than him.  And hey again, she never goes anywhere without him.  Maybe it's because Garrus is... (with apologies to Neo)  THE ONE!  It makes sense.  Shepard gets hit upside the head with the cartoon frying pan.   

Yeah, I have one playthrough from ME1 where I bothered to stay true to Kaidan, but honestly, I wondered after Horizon "Why the hell bother?" (I basically stuck it out "for science" and nothing else).  I wanted to tell him, "I should've dumped your *** on Virmire!"  He's going to have to SEEEEERIOUSLY work to make up for it in ME3 with Nikora Shepard (cupcakes and wine won't be enough).  I'll be ticked if, in ME3, they meet up again and nothing is said about Horizon or his crappy email (yeah, I hope you read that, devs!).  Thankfully, I have 2 other playthroughs where my Shepards stayed single in ME1, so...  yeah, Garrus, baby!

[FrancisKitt]

Sialater wrote...

Those comments are great!

The forums are great as well, I'm Julmoth on there.

/Shameless plug

[battlechantress]

I've been wondering if all of this turian news on the CDN means that even if Garrus is an LI, we won't be seeing much of him in ME3. Hopefully, it will instead mean we (the crew) have to pick a side in the war in order to get the turians unified to help against the Reapers (assuming the Council and everybody else finally realizes that they, you know, exist and all), if indeed we have to deal with the war at all when ME3 is finally released.

Just... no more loyalty missions. Please.  If they're signed up for the fight, why the hell do I have to do the extra work to keep them by my side? I mean, Kelly was supposed to be a shrink.  Shouldn't she have been able to handle that stuff? (Yeah, I am being a bit snarky, but I thought it was kind of silly to be rushing to stop the Collectors and yet... oh, we need to stop and shoot somebody first!)

Modifié par battlechantress, 24 mai 2010 - 09:58 .

[Nilfalasiel]

Collider wrote...

Here's something fun (possibly) to discuss.

Why did your Shepard romance Garrus? Roleplaying wise.

Iris (my MainShep; Colonist War Hero) deals. Something happens, and she always tries to find the resources to cope and move on, be it death, disappointment, bad relationships, etc. Of course, she does have some hastily patched up wounds that can hurt if someone knows which button to push. Her history also made her quite a cynic: she doesn't believe in roses and love at first sight, and emotional talk can have her stumped pretty quickly. Not because she can't feel, but because it's something she doesn't take lightly.

She realized that Kaidan was interested in her pretty quickly, but she never acted on it. Maybe she told herself there would be more time, maybe she simply wasn't interested enough, because he didn't know the right buttons to push. Nevertheless, she did trust him as a teammate and as a friend. As for Garrus, the cynic in her initially found his enthusiasm both amusing and strangely endearing. The fact that he was younger than her and that he clearly looked up to her put her in a somewhat superior position. Yes, she came to trust him, she greatly respected his battle skills and she had a solid friendly-professional relationship with him. But she also felt that she could teach him things and show him the benefits of caution. So no thoughts of romance crossed her mind at that point (at least, not consciously).

Then the Collector attack happened. This time, the death was her own, and that, coupled with the fact that her revival had a whole lot of strings attached to it, was harder to deal with than any of her previous experiences. She'd lost everyone she trusted and cared about, once again, and, on top of that, she was indebted to a group which was involved in terrible things. This was destabilizing, and the fact that Kaidan turned on her because of this hurt her deeply. She thought he knew her better.

Then she met Garrus again, and something clicked. He had matured, come into his own, experienced profound loss: he wasn't the student any longer, life had given his idealism a sound beating and set it askew. She could genuinely empathize with his pain. On top of that, here was someone who trusted her implicitly, who understood her (or at least, tried to, unlike Kaidan), and who even made her laugh, despite all the crap they'd both been through and were going to be in. That slowly set the gears in motion. She started paying a different kind of attention to him, if only subcionsciously at first. The Sidonis experience shook her deeply, made her confused about the depth of her concern for him. But the recon scout conversation triggered an instinctive response. And while it took her by surprise, when she thought about it, it made total sense. This was something worth holding on to, despite all the difficulties and the--"heavy risk, but the priii..." *headshot*--ahem...despite the risks.

The obnoxious interruption was brought to you by Jabinger: directly intervening with cheesy romance lines when you least want them since January 2010.

Modifié par Nilfalasiel, 24 mai 2010 - 09:57 .

[Collider]

I actually love personal missions. I wouldn't mind seeing more in ME3. Though so far as loyalty goes, I don't really want loyalty to return in the same form.



About picking a side...it's possible that the Turians may not join you if you decide to cure the genophage, come to think of it.

[Xsause]

Collider wrote...

Here's something fun (possibly) to discuss.

Why did your Shepard romance Garrus? Roleplaying wise.

Other Shepards can be talked about as well.

WHEN SHEPARD MET GARRUS - AN ILLUSTRATED LOVE STORY BY XSAUSE/XYSNEI

[Chimervera]

Collider wrote...

Here's something fun (possibly) to discuss.

Why did your Shepard romance Garrus? Roleplaying wise.

Other Shepards can be talked about as well.

My Shepard is a colonist/sole survivor, so she has trouble opening up to people. While she liked and was friends with the ME1 crew, she never really let any of them in.

Then she died.

Between that and almost losing Garrus, she realised that if she kept shutting people out, she'd regret it. So she opened up a little more (though not to any of the Cerberus crew - as a sole survivor she didn't trust any of them until they resigned). Meeting Kaidan on Horizon really hurt her and made her angry - he was throwing away their friendship without even listening to her side of the story - but Garrus was there, and he made her feel better. Eventually she realised that he was always there when she needed him. That's the point where she started to develop romantic feelings for him. When it came to the 'reach and flexibility' story, her reaction was along the lines of 'it's now or never', so she said the first thing that popped into her head.

Of course, the OOC reason is because I <3 him, and have since ME1

Sialater wrote...

One of the fics I've been following just took a hard shift to starboard and into the twilight zone.

The author made Garrus and Shep vampires.

<_<

...Any chance of a link? I think I need to see this monstrosity for myself.

@Stephi: I'm glad you like the banner
@Xsause: Hilarious! I can't stop laughing!

Modifié par Chimervera, 24 mai 2010 - 10:04 .

[battlechantress]

Xsause wrote...

Collider wrote...

Here's something fun (possibly) to discuss.

Why did your Shepard romance Garrus? Roleplaying wise.

Other Shepards can be talked about as well.

I laughed so hard I forgot to breathe for a few seconds.  In the words of the late Jenkins, "THAT WAS AWESOME!"  Thank you.

Modifié par battlechantress, 24 mai 2010 - 10:02 .

[Cerrydd]

Hahahahahaha, that was EPIC, Xsause!

[Nilfalasiel]

Lol, Xsause...you're simply a master at destroying the credibility of the ME-verse.

[Sialater]

Chimervera wrote...

Collider wrote...

Here's something fun (possibly) to discuss.

Why did your Shepard romance Garrus? Roleplaying wise.

Other Shepards can be talked about as well.

My Shepard is a colonist/sole survivor, so she has trouble opening up to people. While she liked and was friends with the ME1 crew, she never really let any of them in.

Then she died.

Between that and almost losing Garrus, she realised that if she kept shutting people out, she'd regret it. So she opened up a little more (though not to any of the Cerberus crew - as a sole survivor she didn't trust any of them until they resigned). Meeting Kaidan on Horizon really hurt her and made her angry - he was throwing away their friendship without even listening to her side of the story - but Garrus was there, and he made her feel better. Eventually she realised that he was always there when she needed him. That's the point where she started to develop romantic feelings for him. When it came to the 'reach and flexibility' story, her reaction was along the lines of 'it's now or never', so she said the first thing that popped into her head.

Of course, the OOC reason is because I <3 him, and have since ME1

Sialater wrote...

One of the fics I've been following just took a hard shift to starboard and into the twilight zone.

The author made Garrus and Shep vampires.

<_<

...Any chance of a link? I think I need to see this monstrosity for myself.

@Stephi: I'm glad you like the banner
@Xsause: Hilarious! I can't stop laughing!

False alarm.  It was actually a REALLY WELL DONE video game segment.  Turns out they were hanging out and playing a video game because Garrus is an awesome geek.

LOST screwed with my head last night and I haven't been objective since.

[Cerrydd]

Collider wrote...

About picking a side...it's possible that the Turians may not join you if you decide to cure the genophage, come to think of it.

Oh man. Forcing me to choose between turians and krogan... that would suck so much for me.

Hmmm, looks like I won't be here when this thread hits 900. I'm going to bed at a normal time, for once.

[silentstephi]

Xsauce....



THAT WAS BRILLIANT!

I lol'd. A lot.

And I have to go to some stupid Father in Law fund raiser, so Steph's explanation of wooing of the Turian Batman will have to wait. Stupid in laws running for stupid council.