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[Sand King]

Kim Shepard wrote...

I would like to think that part of the reason Garrus joins up with Shepard again in ME2 is because they're friends, but technically, Shepard can refuse to recruit him in ME1. Either way, Shepard still had a big influence on his life, because he still tries to follow Shepard's example even if he wasn't recruited in the beginning.

The other reason is the Reapers. But now I wonder, would Garrus know about the Reapers if he wasn't recruited in ME1, or does he just find out after Shepard recruits him in ME2?

Of course, everyone here recruited Garrus in ME1. xD I'm just trying to consider all of the possibilities.

Well if he was not recruited when he would of seen Nazaria he probably **** bricks. Also he could just go thru all of C-Sec’s files and learn that way.

[Collider]

Like Kim said, even if you don't recruit Garrus, Garrus is still inspired by Shepard. Since your recruiting him, you saved him, and he looks up to Shepard, that's why he still joins a Shepard that didn't recruit him in ME1. But if did recruit Garrus in ME1 like you should, then in ME2 another reason he's joining is because you're friends or at least he got to see you action because he joined your squad.

Modifié par Collider, 25 mai 2010 - 08:13 .

[Kim Shepard]

Wouldn't C-Sec's files go along with what the Council wants everyone to believe, that it was just Saren's geth ship that attacked the Citadel? Garrus would have known about the attack, and possibly that it wouldn't be the only attack, but I'm not sure how he could have known about the Reapers (or at least the details) if he didn't hear it from Shepard.

[Sand King]

Kim Shepard wrote...

Wouldn't C-Sec's files go along with what the Council wants everyone to believe, that it was just Saren's geth ship that attacked the Citadel? Garrus would have known about the attack, and possibly that it wouldn't be the only attack, but I'm not sure how he could have known about the Reapers (or at least the details) if he didn't hear it from Shepard.

There would be rumors and wipers all over the Citadel and I think that Garrus would dig deep to find the answers after be stonewalled on the Sarian case. 

[irene9876]

Well after the attack on the Citadel, the Council concedes that it was the Reapers behind it. I'm pretty sure word got around. Even Gabby and Ken knew about the Reapers athough they weren't on the Normandy SR-1. It wasn't until Shepherd died that the Alliance and Council started actively discrediting what s/he said. My guess, ME1 unrecruited Garrus knew a cover-up when he saw it. I don't think he appreciated the politics of it all.

Modifié par irene9876, 25 mai 2010 - 07:05 .

[Kim Shepard]

There probably were rumors, especially with how fast the rumors about Saren got around. A turian and salarian were talking about it right in the Citadel Tower even before Shepard found the evidence. (Were they standing right there during Saren's trial?) I doubt they would know any of the most important information though, like everything Shepard found out on Ilos. And because the only way most people heard of this was through rumors, there's a good chance that false rumors were mixed in with the truth and lack of information.

Anyway, I think Garrus could have figured out the basics. He would have at least known some kind of threat was out there, even if he didn't know much about the Reapers themselves.

[Nilfalasiel]

Collider wrote...

he got to see you action because you joined you.

Split-personality Shepard?

As for why Garrus joined Shepard in the first place, the overwhelming reason would be Saren. Considering how bugged he was that Saleon got away from him, imagine how much worse it would be with Saren, who's not only an intergalactic terrorist, but also a Spectre gone rogue (we know that Garrus admires Spectres) AND a turian on top of that. That makes at least 2 reasons for the case to be personal. He also already knows who Shepard is upon meeting her/him, probably from hearing about her/his exploits. So he would know that she/he is capable and can hold her/his own on a battlefield, therefore being worthy of respect. He might not be a typical turian, in the sense that he doesn't blindly follow orders, but he does value martial skill, and that's an area where Shepard delivers in droves. As for her/him being human, he doesn't seem to have a problem with it; I'd say he views humans and turians as being equal. In fact, the only races he seems to have issues with are krogan and quarians, and contact with both Wrex and Tali serves to disspate some of his prejudices.

As for why he joins in ME2, that's a no-brainer. He built a strong bond with Shepard in ME1, be it friendly or professional, he looks up to her/him, and he definitely knows what she/he can do on in battle. Besides, Shepard's the only close friend he's got left at that point, and that friend just saved his ass. The real question would be "why wouldn't he join?" Saving his life also serves as a good enough incentive if you didn't recruit him in ME1.

[Collider]

Oops, no idea what happened there. Meant to say he got to see you in action because he joined you in ME1. Split personality Shepard sounds interesting though...

[Collider]

I have another question for consideration for you all.



What would you like to see in the Garrus romance in ME3? Besides continuation, of course.

[Andaius20]

Kim Shepard wrote...

I would like to think that part of the reason Garrus joins up with Shepard again in ME2 is because they're friends, but technically, Shepard can refuse to recruit him in ME1. Either way, Shepard still had a big influence on his life, because he still tries to follow Shepard's example even if he wasn't recruited in the beginning.

The other reason is the Reapers. But now I wonder, would Garrus know about the Reapers if he wasn't recruited in ME1, or does he just find out after Shepard recruits him in ME2?

Of course, everyone here recruited Garrus in ME1. xD I'm just trying to consider all of the possibilities.

I actually never did this, I don't know what his dialog is in this case anyone know? I'll maybe have to take out the gibbed save editor and change some flasg around and start a new game just to see this.

[Nilfalasiel]

Andaius20 wrote...

I actually never did this, I don't know what his dialog is in this case anyone know? I'll maybe have to take out the gibbed save editor and change some flasg around and start a new game just to see this.

I think someone posted a video of it a few pages back. Barring that, you could also try YouTube.

Collider wrote...

What would you like to see in the Garrus romance in ME3? Besides continuation, of course.

It's a little difficult to say, since we don't know what the plot of ME3 would be like. Ideally, I'd like to have:
 
- More dialogue. It doesn't have to go as far as 2 different dialogue sets for romanced and non-romanced Garrus, but some extra lines dealing with the romance would be great. ME1 had the romance development right, ME2 was rushed, so something more like ME1 would probably be preferable. Yes, it won't deal with the inception of the romance (since it's a returning LI), but it could touch on issues like racial prejudice against the pair or something. INTERAKSHUN PLZ!

- A romance scene that doesn't happen at the end of the game. Showing Shepard and any LI waking up together would be great, but...well, let's face it, what are the odds of the developers showing ANY amount of Garrus skin? Hint: the number looks like a donut. Then again, I'm sure there are camera angles they could exploit to minimize issues.

- No vague endings, please! Again, not holding my breath on this one, but since this is the end of Shep's story, anything that doesn't spell "closure" would leave me feeling short-changed. That includes the LI department.

- No stupid choices like "pick who gets to die between the LI or your best friend/a whole planet/the rest of the galaxy". I don't think the developers would pull a trick like that, but I've seen the theory circulating, so might as well address it.

- No meeting Papa Vakarian. While I can appreciate the potential humour/drama of the situation, it really doesn't have a place in a "save the galaxy" scenario. Again, really don't think that's going to happen, since the LIs who have confirmed living, non-evil parents are in the minority, but just in case.

As for split-personality Shepard...one would be Paragon, the other Renegade, and Shep would simply not get anything done, due to the two fighting over every single decision in the game.

PShep: Hang on, we must keep the genophage cure FOR GREAT JUSTICE! All those lives shouldn't have been lost in vain!

RShep: What are you on? Crack? The genophage isn't supposed to be cured in the first place, and people got butchered for this!

PShep: No, you're wrong!

RShep: NO U!

[...]

*Two months later, Mordin has died of old age, the other squadmate left in disgust, and Shepard is huddled in a corner making gurgling noises.*

Modifié par Nilfalasiel, 25 mai 2010 - 09:29 .

[Andaius20]

Garrus deadly at games of "peek a boo"

[Alexine]

So what would I see with the romance in ME3? For starters, Garrus needs more dialogue. Although the quality much better than in ME1 (I admit he was a bit of a bore and far too hot-headed), it's just that in comparison to characters like Miranda's and (sadly) Jacob's dialogue, Garrus sorely lacks those conversations. I would like Garrus to tease Shepard like he does with Tali, but more in a lover's sort of way.



As for anything else, maybe some more Garrus' adorable awkwardness? Honestly, I don't know. He's loosened up quite a bit and he's quite alright now. I just think lack of dialogue would be the first thing I definitely want, not only for the Garrus' romance, but also for any friendship banter.



@Andaius: Lol, the picture looks like Garrus is kissing his rifle.

[Re_spawNZ7]

Heeeey Clan V...I brought wine :happy:

I had to drop this here for us girlz (from my latest PT)...motivational anyone?



TURIAN BUTT - you know you would so tap that:whistle:

Anyhooooo, what has everyone been up to?

Modifié par Rebe70, 25 mai 2010 - 09:52 .

[Re_spawNZ7]

Ye godz...I am the only one on the internetz

[Alexine]

I'm here, though I'm lurking around and typing an essay.



Clan Vakarian is usually quiet at this time.

[Re_spawNZ7]

Let me guess - everyone is   I have dismissed that claim

Oh well, might as well give it a try myself. Night all!

[Alexine]

Night!

Sweet Dreams:



Garrus, wut?

[Cerrydd]

Rebe70 wrote...

Heeeey Clan V...I brought wine [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/happy.png[/smilie]

I had to drop this here for us girlz (from my latest PT)...motivational anyone?



TURIAN BUTT - you know you would so tap that[smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/whistling.png[/smilie]

Anyhooooo, what has everyone been up to?

I can't think of a motivational right now, but this song popped up immediately in my head.

Nilfalasiel wrote...

As for why Garrus joined Shepard in the first place, the overwhelming reason would be Saren. Considering how bugged he was that Saleon got away from him, imagine how much worse it would be with Saren, who's not only an intergalactic terrorist, but also a Spectre gone rogue (we know that Garrus admires Spectres) AND a turian on top of that. That makes at least 2 reasons for the case to be personal. He also already knows who Shepard is upon meeting her/him, probably from hearing about her/his exploits. So he would know that she/he is capable and can hold her/his own on a battlefield, therefore being worthy of respect. He might not be a typical turian, in the sense that he doesn't blindly follow orders, but he does value martial skill, and that's an area where Shepard delivers in droves. As for her/him being human, he doesn't seem to have a problem with it; I'd say he views humans and turians as being equal. In fact, the only races he seems to have issues with are krogan and quarians, and contact with both Wrex and Tali serves to disspate some of his prejudices.

As for why he joins in ME2, that's a no-brainer. He built a strong bond with Shepard in ME1, be it friendly or professional, he looks up to her/him, and he definitely knows what she/he can do on in battle. Besides, Shepard's the only close friend he's got left at that point, and that friend just saved his ass. The real question would be "why wouldn't he join?" Saving his life also serves as a good enough incentive if you didn't recruit him in ME1.

This very much. Garrus is very eager to join Shep in ME1, he wants to get the job done. Janey did her don't-recruit-Garrus ME1 PT for science, and apparently he already resigns from C-Sec, even when you turn him down. He's fed up with all the rules and regulations that get in the way. Teaming up with Shep gives him the opportunity to see how it's done outside of C-Sec and with Shep being a Spectre, Garrus on the Normandy is like a kid in a candy store. Finally away from C-Sec, he can see how Shep solves all these problems and he respects her (or him) a lot. You teach him a lot, doesn't matter if you paragon or renegade him.

If you recruited him in ME1, he won't hesitate to join you on this big suicide mission. He has saw you getting the job done with Saren, he knows you're going to nail it again. Garrus and Shep go on another big adventure. You were like a mentor to him in ME1, but most of all you were friends who knew they could count on eachother.

If you didn't recruit him ME1, he won't hesitate either to join you. I'm sure he followed Shep's progress when she was taking down Saren, because it was his case first and he really wanted to stop Saren. Shep proved she could get it done, so unrecruited Garrus respects her for that. He probably doesn't believe the Council who is trying to cover up anything Reaper related. Besides, where else could he go? His merc killing thing on Omega was complete and he could pick another planet to do the same thing, but he knows Shep's mission is more important. Garrus and Shep go on a big adventure.

That's why I can't picture Garrus anywhere but in the squad in ME3. He sees the big picture, he knows the Reapers are coming and he wants to be part of it until the end. There's no sense in Garrus returning to C-Sec or anywhere else before the end of the Reapers. I don't think he has any connections in turian society, so if ME3 is a gather-your-army game, I don't think he can pull a few strings there. His place is in Shep's squad, right by her/his side.

So uhm, ME movie is really true? I don't know how to feel about that. I will go out to see it, but how the hell are they planning to put an entire game in ~2 hours? And how will they handle the aliens? If Garrus is not voiced by BK, that's blasphemy, lol.

Modifié par Cerrydd, 25 mai 2010 - 11:21 .

[Chimervera]

janeym27 wrote...

Xsause... there are no words. AWESOME

Can we have "Of course I want to have sex that could potentially kill me." as a new Clan V banner? XD

Also added to the animated banner:



Also, the pseudo-OP is updated, now that I have my internet back. I should hopefully have everything up tomorrow.

If anyone has a link to the Garrus ME2 soundfiles so that I can add them to, I'd appreciate it.
Night, everyone

[Alexine]

I just had to do it. One of the ME1 modded screenshots made Garrus had that expression that I had to draw on.

My fill in the blank is 'naked femsheps all over the world'.

And what I think the film will be like a District 9 style perhaps, with a bit of I Am Legend mix. Aliens would probably be mostly CGI. If we are lucky there would be 1) No movie due to very long pre-production development or 2) a spin-off from the trilogy. I wouldn't mind if Garrus didn't get a lot of screentime (if I want any Garrus I'll just come here or play ME1 or ME2) But I would agree with you Cerrydd, if there is no Brandan Keener for Garrus, the film shall be doomed forever.

[Bugsie]

Collider wrote...

I have another question for consideration for you all.

What would you like to see in the Garrus romance in ME3? Besides continuation, of course.

I'd like to have a lot more dialogue.  Bioware have maybe catered for a lot of players who might play through the game once or twice - picking up bits they missed on that 2nd playthrough but for us diehards once you get to that 3rd or 4th playthrough there really isnt much more to pick up conversation wise - we're just reliving good times, and for me thats not enough!!!

[Andaius20]

Alexine wrote...

So what would I see with the romance in ME3? For starters, Garrus needs more dialogue. Although the quality much better than in ME1 (I admit he was a bit of a bore and far too hot-headed), it's just that in comparison to characters like Miranda's and (sadly) Jacob's dialogue, Garrus sorely lacks those conversations. I would like Garrus to tease Shepard like he does with Tali, but more in a lover's sort of way.

As for anything else, maybe some more Garrus' adorable awkwardness? Honestly, I don't know. He's loosened up quite a bit and he's quite alright now. I just think lack of dialogue would be the first thing I definitely want, not only for the Garrus' romance, but also for any friendship banter.

@Andaius: Lol, the picture looks like Garrus is kissing his rifle.

He really does love that gun! <3

[LOLandStuff]

A ME movie will be a complete disaster. This is my opinion and I can't remember any movie in these last years that slightly impressed me to change it.

They are starting to get extremely lazy with the special effects and they don't even bother with the story. The problem is they give what the people ask.

You want hot alien sex? Don't worry, we'll just come up with a blue alien babe because everyone likes blue.

You want explosions? See that bike over there? Let's make it go boom for no reason but thing of the effects and the big flames...that is totally awesome.

If our hero doesn't brood in a corner wearing black, let's make him a smartass and a complete idiot until he's running out of time, then he'll be serious and saves the day.

I say, I like that crossbow and we can turn make it shoot more bolts. Let's give these troglodytes crossbows, shave them and make them the smartest so they can stand out from the other tribes.

Let's force some philosophical BS down their throats to make the movie deeper even if it doesn't make absolutely no sense.

As a costume and stage designer I don't get to do what seems the most logical choice for the characters or the decor everything takes place in. If the director wants the main hero dressed like a drag queen, I can't argue because it's pointless, I'll just be replaced with someone else who listens to him. Once, there were some rules but now they are no longer. Personally, I can't design a costume for a character that has no personality, I just put some cloths on him and send him away.

I won't be amazed if Shepard turns out to be a second Batman who suddenly knows kung fu and starts moping like Anakin because he misses his mother. Then meets Liara, gets brain laid and has the best sex EVAH and there will also be some stuff in there that goes boom and then the end and we wait for the second part of the trilogy. I won't again be amazed if they add some damn Jar Jar Binks to the group, because everyone loves a comic relief or a pet.

[Bugsie]

LOLandStuff wrote...

A ME movie will be a complete disaster. This is my opinion and I can't remember any movie in these last years that slightly impressed me to change it.
They are starting to get extremely lazy with the special effects and they don't even bother with the story. The problem is they give what the people ask.
You want hot alien sex? Don't worry, we'll just come up with a blue alien babe because everyone likes blue.
You want explosions? See that bike over there? Let's make it go boom for no reason but thing of the effects and the big flames...that is totally awesome.
If our hero doesn't brood in a corner wearing black, let's make him a smartass and a complete idiot until he's running out of time, then he'll be serious and saves the day.
I say, I like that crossbow and we can turn make it shoot more bolts. Let's give these troglodytes crossbows, shave them and make them the smartest so they can stand out from the other tribes.
Let's force some philosophical BS down their throats to make the movie deeper even if it doesn't make absolutely no sense.
As a costume and stage designer I don't get to do what seems the most logical choice for the characters or the decor everything takes place in. If the director wants the main hero dressed like a drag queen, I can't argue because it's pointless, I'll just be replaced with someone else who listens to him. Once, there were some rules but now they are no longer. Personally, I can't design a costume for a character that has no personality, I just put some cloths on him and send him away.
I won't be amazed if Shepard turns out to be a second Batman who suddenly knows kung fu and starts moping like Anakin because he misses his mother. Then meets Liara, gets brain laid and has the best sex EVAH and there will also be some stuff in there that goes boom and then the end and we wait for the second part of the trilogy. I won't again be amazed if they add some damn Jar Jar Binks to the group, because everyone loves a comic relief or a pet.

Oh this is beautiful, it summarises every crappy scifi BS action movie Hollywood have done lately.....

Oh and Drag Queens - Priscilla Queen of the Skyllian Verge anyone?