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Garrus Love and Adoration v.2


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#22851
Meltcare

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Maybe they have formal military funerals.

After all as far as i know all of them served in the military for a time.

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Maybe we would see one at the end of ME3.....hopefully i am not implying that garrus dies bioware!

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Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

Maybe we would see one at the end of ME3.....hopefully i am not implying that garrus dies bioware!


...Papa Vakarian dies and we get to go to Palaven to attend his funeral?

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Cerrydd wrote...

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

Maybe we would see one at the end of ME3.....hopefully i am not implying that garrus dies bioware!


...Papa Vakarian dies and we get to go to Palaven to attend his funeral?


That begs another question, of Turian family bonds... We know Krogan don't really have them. Their 'family' is their clan...

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If you wanted to really get into it, think about why humans cry and how they cry. Ways humans depict their sorrow or grief. Does this translate to turian physiology? Is there another way a turian can express the same feeling in a different manner given their turian physiology? Can you picture a turian having to blow their nose? Exactly how do their ears work and to they have a eustachian tube that can be affected by their crying?

Or, you know, screw it, have them cry because that's what you want them to do. Not really given any information that says they can or can't.

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Cerrydd wrote...

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

Maybe we would see one at the end of ME3.....hopefully i am not implying that garrus dies bioware!


...Papa Vakarian dies and we get to go to Palaven to attend his funeral?

And then we could see how garrus expresses grief. Gah, just the thought is depressing.

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Xsause: you continue to fill my life with joy. XD  :wizard:

I got lost on my way here. Wonder why there was an all of a sudden change. :S

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 It just seems cruel for them to fix their own faces and leave their boyfriend/best friend with a scar that's much worse.


Re: Garrus scarring: I like his scars. Especially from a chracter POV. We know Garrus is a guy who carries his mistakes with him (sometimes too much), so I think that even if the medi-bay upgrade worked, he probably wouldn't choose to use it.

Re: Garrus being in the ME movie (please god, no ME movie with characters we know!) and being NOT voiced by BK: No. That would be an epic fail which may end the world as we know it. :(

I see a missed another turian bodily fluids discussion. I'm never about for those. lol. I read a fanfic once where their blood got mixed together and it went purple. I'm not a biologist, so I don't know if that is fail or no, but either way it seems unsanitary. :blink:

Re: turian funerals. Well, that CN report from a few days ago about the reporters who were arrested for filming dead turians mentioned that it disrespected the memory of the dead to do so, so I'm guessing they have a lot of reverence for the departed. I also agree that it would probably have a spiritual sense to it (depending on the choices made by the individual turian in terms of spirituality, that is. But in general terms), probably related to returing to the spirits, or from the memory of someone who lived well becoming a spirit which others can look to for guidence.

I had always thought that turians didn't cry, but I don't think there is actually any ingame evidence for this. More, a lack of evidence that says they do.

I remembered something I wanted to comment on from PAGES ago (when we
jumped 30 pages and I got lost). It was regarding Kaiden killing his
turian biotics instructor. As far as I can tell, this is the only
mention of turian biotics in game, yes? Do we meet any turian biotics,
or do the generic turian mercs ever use biotic abilities? I'd love to
see some turian biotic-work, but I always had it in my head that turians
weren't big biotic users. Did I misthink? (wouldn't be the first time).
If not, then do you think that the turian biotic instructor was a
continuity error caused by not wanting to have him kill an asari?

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I've been wondering if there was any fan site or forum dedicated to Garrus. Could be interesting.

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Well, I did some reading about why humans cry (emotional tears, that is, not tears of pain or reflex omg there's something in my eye tears) ..



I found out that emotional tears are made from a different chemical composition than other tears - They contain much higher levels of the hormone prolactin, which is a hormone that contributes to depression... So the body is shedding the excess prolactic caused by sadness/grief.

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Awww but I want to meet the cagey old fart. XD

Ok, now that the 100 degree day has mellowed to something more bearable (80 now, good god shoot me) I'm either going to get back to cleaning... or Imma draw a comic... DECISIONS. -.-



Good luck on your funerary writing!

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Raphael diSanto wrote...

Cerrydd wrote...

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

Maybe we would see one at the end of ME3.....hopefully i am not implying that garrus dies bioware!


...Papa Vakarian dies and we get to go to Palaven to attend his funeral?


That begs another question, of Turian family bonds... We know Krogan don't really have them. Their 'family' is their clan...

Turians kind of have clans too, but they all work together in some harmony. But they actually do have a structural family from what i've seen. They are raised through discipline and respect until the age of 15, and once they enroll in the military they are expected to serve the galaxy with the same respect and discipline they have been taught.

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Janey, it's said that Turian Biotics are exceptionally rare, and almost -always- promoted to command level to keep them out of the line of fire.

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janeym27 wrote...
*snip*
I remembered something I wanted to comment on from PAGES ago (when we
jumped 30 pages and I got lost). It was regarding Kaiden killing his
turian biotics instructor. As far as I can tell, this is the only
mention of turian biotics in game, yes? Do we meet any turian biotics,
or do the generic turian mercs ever use biotic abilities?*snip*

Saren.

Other than that, the wiki mentions turian biotics are uncommon.

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Another depressing thought is to see garrus's reaction at shepard's funeral if he/she does die in ME3.

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Janey, Saren was a turian biotic. It makes you wonder what biotics do to turians... do they get their biotic abilities due to Eezo exposure, like humans? Hell, are there salarian biotics?

Are asari biotics because of they've made their nervous system their ****? Are krogan more prone to being biotics because they have 2 nervous systems?



It's a good thing to ponder! And wow Rap, that's an interesting tidbit of info. We cry when we're sad because of a chemical overload... good to know. ^.^

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Coolio. I def want to meet another turian biotic at some point, then. Biotics are cool. Turians are cool. A combination of both would therefore be amazing. 8D



(I rememberd about Saren, but was unsure how much of that was his reaperfied self. And then if the wiki was just compensating for the mention of turian biotic instructor in game. Thanks for clearing that all up. :D )

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janeym27 wrote...

I remembered something I wanted to comment on from PAGES ago (when we
jumped 30 pages and I got lost). It was regarding Kaiden killing his
turian biotics instructor. As far as I can tell, this is the only
mention of turian biotics in game, yes? Do we meet any turian biotics,
or do the generic turian mercs ever use biotic abilities? I'd love to
see some turian biotic-work, but I always had it in my head that turians
weren't big biotic users. Did I misthink? (wouldn't be the first time).
If not, then do you think that the turian biotic instructor was a
continuity error caused by not wanting to have him kill an asari?


I think the ME1 Codex said something about turian biotics being rare and they usually didn't get assigned to front-line positions...or something.  I'm sure someone will correct me if I'm messing up that memory.

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Wicked looking turian biotics. XD

DA link here

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Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

Another depressing thought is to see garrus's reaction at shepard's funeral if he/she does die in ME3.


He already lost him/her once, losing Shepard for the second time would be really depressing for Garrus.

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silentstephi wrote...

Janey, Saren was a turian biotic. It makes you wonder what biotics do to turians... do they get their biotic abilities due to Eezo exposure, like humans? Hell, are there salarian biotics?


There are a few salarian biotics. They're just not used in the front lines, because they're highly prized. They're mostly used in the intelligence services.

Turian biotics are unusual, viewed with some suspicion by the general infantry and are usually deployed in groups called "Cabals".

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Holy cow stephi, seeing that picture really makes me think that actually seeing a turian biotic in action would be one of the coolest things one could ever see. :D

eta:  And Saren don't count, 'cause he's a big old dumbhead. :P

Modifié par kglaser, 27 mai 2010 - 12:12 .


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I think turians probably can cry, but they might try very hard not to. They don't want anything to interfere with their work, so maybe emotions are included with that. I remember one of the dialogue options from ME1, possibly right after Virmire, about how Shepard deals with the death of squadmates was, "I grieved. Later." Turians might think of it like that - Garrus lost his whole squad, but he's not getting over-emotional about it because the mission is too important to lose focus. That's just my opinion though, we don't have any real proof.

As for funerals, Garrus did cover the bodies of his squadmates, so that might suggest a burial or some sort of tomb for their dead.

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kglaser wrote...

Holy cow stephi, seeing that picture really makes me think that actually seeing a turian biotic in action would be one of the coolest things one could ever see. :D

eta:  And Saren don't count, 'cause he's a big old dumbhead. :P


Well you already saw one (Saren).
But still i find the lack of turian biotics disturbing.

Modifié par Meltcare, 27 mai 2010 - 12:15 .


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silentstephi wrote...

Janey, Saren was a turian biotic. It makes you wonder what biotics do to turians... do they get their biotic abilities due to Eezo exposure, like humans? Hell, are there salarian biotics?
Are asari biotics because of they've made their nervous system their ****? Are krogan more prone to being biotics because they have 2 nervous systems?

It's a good thing to ponder! And wow Rap, that's an interesting tidbit of info. We cry when we're sad because of a chemical overload... good to know. ^.^


Krogan biotics are pretty rare. They pretty much always evolve into Battlemasters, who are dying out, if I recall correctly.

Asari are -all- biotic, I believe. I'm not sure if it's explained why, but it does say that it's integral to the way they reproduce.

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Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

Another depressing thought is to see garrus's reaction at shepard's funeral if he/she does die in ME3.


Didja ever read this? (sad fic alert)


I think losing Shepard again, espeically after all that's happened since Shepard's first death, might push Garrus over the edge.