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[Some Dude]

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

Some Dude wrote...

*Stares at massive post*
Wow

You've only seen the beginnning of it Dude. When your a garrus fan, you tend to write walls of text. and we are damn well proud of it.

*Shakes hand*
That's pretty awesome

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Some Dude wrote...

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

Some Dude wrote...

*Stares at massive post*
Wow

You've only seen the beginnning of it Dude. When your a garrus fan, you tend to write walls of text. and we are damn well proud of it.

*Shakes hand*
That's pretty awesome

There is alot more to garrus then we have been shown. And hopefully bioware would be able to emphasize on that. Cause from what i've read from Casey, he assumed, can you believe that? He assumed that not to many people would like garrus compared to the other characters in ME2. He even said in a recent interview that he was suprised how much the garrus romance has touched people. Because he stated that "it wasn't even a romance scene, it was just a hug and touching on the foreheads, but i seen hundreds of different paintings about that romance and it has touched alot more people then i expected."

bioware should never assume which character would be a fan favorite. they need to do everything equally.

[silentstephi]

They were off a bit on Tali being a hit cause they didn't think guys would go for chicken legs, imagine their surprise when they found out the clamoring for the guy who didn't even LOOK human being desirable.



Well put Brass. I've always thought that while awkward, the conversations are still, adorkable. I've never been able to even WATCH the let down scene. I just can't do it.

Which brings me to the question, is his line "Yea... maybe that'll be enough." from that scene? Because I hear it on my winamp ( you people for putting up these sound files) and it almost breaks my heart to hear him say it. The pause between yea and maybe kills me. It sounds so sad!

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

when you turn down garrus the T.V/Computer monitor would get the blue screen of death. Then a fist would come out and punch you in the face.

[Brass_Buckles]

Well, Garrus has several things working in his favor for the popularity of his romance, not least of which is the fact that he was in ME1 and a lot of people liked him there, too. In ME2 he becomes a badass, plus he clearly considers Shepard his friend. As a woman I have to say there's something appealing about the idea of falling in love with a best guy friend. Maybe it's because if you're such good friends, you'd go out of your way to avoid hurting one another, which would lead to a more honest and reliable relationship on both sides--more loyalty, more compassion for one another, etc. There's every indication that it can work for the long haul if they're dedicated enough to see to it that it works at all.



Garrus also appeals to the women who like "bad boys," and yes, even those who like the idea of "love that heals." His past has seen him be a ruthless vigilante and a broken man. Personally I don't favor those aspects/archetypes much. I do appreciate that he's a friend and that he respects female Shepard and treats her as an equal in ME2--yes, he'll take orders, but he'll also banter with her and disagree with her. In ME1 he's more your subordinate--and while I liked him in ME1, he is definitely more mature in ME2. And of course, a lot of us are suckers for that voice.



I can say all this, and yet I have said early on that I don't find Garrus physically appealing, and I still don't. He's sort of artistically attractive, design-wise, but to me personally the turian physique is hardly a turn-on. Garrus is just that awesome--he can even appeal to people who don't think he's hot stuff.



So yeah--Garrus: What's not to like? Why shouldn't a lot of people really gush over that adorable moment when the stoic, badass turian finally admits that he's screwed up just about everything he possibly can, and that he's hoping that this new thing he's struck up with Shepard will be the one thing in his life that works out? I don't think gender much matters in this regard--most human beings have a bit of a romantic streak--even me, and I can be very cynical in regard to romance.

[Andaius20]

Cerrydd wrote...

It's better to keep NSFW out of this thread right now.

As for the DLC armor:



The beerstraws (that are supposed to be microphones) are attached to the bandage. It's coming right out of his head. I don't know why.

I think thats all been replaced with Cybernetics like Jacob mentioned.

also hello folks anything happening in here today?

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Ah nothing. We had garrus vakarian in here a couple pages back but ran away from fear of rampaging fangirls. We need to try to lure him back in here.

[Brass_Buckles]

I may be a fangirl, but I do not rampage. Garrus belongs to Femshep. Or a female turian. Either/or. My avatar would indicate that I am neither. I'm just an elf mage.

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

You don't rampage, but the majority of this thread would.

[silentstephi]

My inner librarian is showing.

/wants to catalog anything and everything turian...

-.-

But I should sleep. Night folks

[Andaius20]

something happened to the Tali thread earlier today? but it's back now, some one have a explanation?

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

same here, not to many people on. And we are close to our 1000 page mark =)

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Andaius20 wrote...

something happened to the Tali thread earlier today? but it's back now, some one have a explanation?

Chris priestly locked your thread and told you guys to never create another tali thread. He said that your thread mostly consists of spam and it is up to Casey and the devs to decide what to do with tali. But then he realized he was way to harsh so he unlocked your thread, he said as long as you guys are on topic then you will be fine.

[Andaius20]

Bizzare


Garrus mug shot!

Modifié par Andaius20, 27 mai 2010 - 05:22 .

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Andaius20 wrote...

Bizzare


Garrus mug shot!

Tell me about it. I was afraid that he was going to do the same thing with us. But he kind of realized that he pissed off alot of people by doing that so he unlocked it. I wouldn't think garrus would be so lucky though, so hopefully you guys would be able to bust us out if it ever happens? 

[Alexine]

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

Ah nothing. We had garrus vakarian in here a couple pages back but ran away from fear of rampaging fangirls. We need to try to lure him back in here.

Pancakes... no cupcakes!

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

Andaius20 wrote...

Bizzare


Garrus mug shot!

Tell me about it. I was afraid that he was going to do the same thing with us. But he kind of realized that he pissed off alot of people by doing that so he unlocked it. I wouldn't think garrus would be so lucky though, so hopefully you guys would be able to bust us out if it ever happens? 

Is slapping Garrus' face on egyptian gods counted as spam? Because I was just tempted to put one up just now, but decided against it, because I don't want this thread locked due to self-juvenile entertainment.

Modifié par Alexine, 27 mai 2010 - 07:50 .

[Chimervera]

The internets ate my post And then my post never appeared in the thread it re-directed me to...

Updated the pseudo-OP. Now there's a Garrus Mods section for those of you who use Texmod.

silentstephi wrote...

Chim: I voted in your poll. It'd probably be a good idea, just so we can all KIT. And I'll help you maintain it if you like ^.^

I'd appreciate the help

I'll give the poll another hour or so, though I don't think the results will change all that much in that time. It gives me time to do some homework

Does anyone have an idea for the group pic?

Modifié par Chimervera, 27 mai 2010 - 08:46 .

[Cerrydd]

Brass_Buckles wrote...

*hurray wall-o'-text post!*snip

But enough of my random rambling.  There are way too many interpretations possible and I only just came to think of this one as making more sense (to me) than most others.  I kind of felt the need to share because it struck me as an "aha!" moment, given that it makes all of the Garrus scenes a little more romantic than they were before:  Whether Shepard knows it or not, Garrus may be looking at this as potentially long-term from the moment that she brings up the option.  Let's face it, except for that last scene, Garrus's romance isn't really all that romantic otherwise.  Well, okay, I'll give you the "few moments that are just for us" line, but mostly he's just seemingly worried about how they're going to have sex.  If you think that maybe Garrus had wanted a deeper connection (romantically or not)  to Shepard all along from the start of the romance (and possibly before), that he's nervous that he's going to ruin that aspect of it with really bad sex (or inability to have sex with her at all) or that Shepard doesn't feel the same way, then all of the scenes become a lot sweeter.

I agree, but it can be interpreted in many ways. The people out there who are screaming "GAHHHH GARRUS IS A FLING BECAUSE HE'S ALWAYS TALKING ABOUT CASUAL SEX AND IT'S NOT ROMANTIC AT ALLLLL" are obviously only paying attention to what he's saying, not how he's saying this. You have to read between the lines, and your post is a nice explanation of how I see it. There is so much more going on that just "heh, let's have sex because we are friends". The whole build-up from Garrus jumping in without thinking, then suddenly worrying about what Shep exactly wants, then relaxing a bit at the idea, and in the end the culmination which shows how much this means for him.

Also, two words: rejection scene. I bet it sucks to be blown off for casual sex (never tried it myself ), but his emotions show much more than "crap, we're not going to blow off steam". He's been through so much, finally found some light in the darkness, tried so hard to make this evening something nice, bought wine, brought music... All the time during the conversations, Shep has been confirming this is what she wants, so he relaxes at the thought of it and allows his emotions to be there. And then, after all this effort, Shep says "no, I want to be friends". Ouch. He tries to wave it off, but you can see the pain right there in his face. And body movement. Another disappointment in the already grim past years, something that could have been so beautiful.

The first time I did the romance, I already thought it was extremely touching. But it gets better and better everytime you think about it.

Oh you silly Casey Hudson and the rest of BW, you have no idea how wonderful the Garrus romance is

[Collider]

Do people actually say Garrus' romance is a fling? I've only heard that once or twice.

[Alexine]

I've just finished through the Garrus' romance scene, since everyone is talking about it, and I want to experience it, rather than be spoiled of it. Have to say, Garrus is so adorable that I was laughing off my seat (Flux music, really Garrus?). But I found it rather touching at the end.

However, looking back at the whole romance, I never considered it to be a fling. Shepard talks about Garrus having 'tension'. I interpreted that Shepard found that Garrus bottled up feelings of sorts. Feelings for Shepard could be a possibility. But I think, indicated from Shepard's dialogue, that Shepard had a feeling that Garrus had difficulty opening up. If Garrus' romance was more paced like Thane's, it wouldn't make much such sense. Garrus had lost his entire crew to betrayal and although he can trust Shepard and be on good terms and have a good friendship, I feel that Garrus doesn't want to open up too much since he would be afraid to lose someone so much closer to him. He'd lost Shepard once already (assuming that most would recruit him in me1). And not to mention, I found him in me1 to be a bit dense, though he'd greatly improved upon that in me2.

If Shepard being subtle and edging Garrus to admit his feelings wouldn't work, since misinterpretation between species always happen (look at that during the First Contact War, for example), so Shepard had to use the only way: be blunt about it. And what better way to say it after Garrus talked about having a romp with a female turian before a battle.

[Cerrydd]

Collider wrote...

Do people actually say Garrus' romance is a fling? I've only heard that once or twice.

I've read it more that once or twice in various romance topics. Depressing, because Garrus has so much more than that. But I'm biased of course

Not to mention there are people out there (not many, but still) who think the ME2 squadmates are expendable because they can all die and should be reduced to cameos because of what BW did to the ME1 LI's. Not much of a romance there either.

@ Alexine: Yay! Welcome to the we-romanced-Garrus club!

[Collider]

Cerrydd wrote...

Collider wrote...

Do people actually say Garrus' romance is a fling? I've only heard that once or twice.

I've read it more that once or twice in various romance topics. Depressing, because Garrus has so much more than that. But I'm biased of course

To me this seems to mean that they either did not pay attention in the romance, or they didn't even do it...

Not to mention there are people out there (not many, but still) who think the ME2 squadmates are expendable because they can all die and should be reduced to cameos because of what BW did to the ME1 LI's. Not much of a romance there either.

They don't seem to realize that the entirety of ME2 is almost invalidated if squad mates don't return, including romances. I don't think Bioware will go that route - and I am certain that it's way too early for people to condemn ME3 as Mass Cameo.

[Alexine]

I could understand to a certain point that people would consider it to be a fling because it is 'we could go ease tension together'. But after that, it changes, since Garrus does question about its implications. When you have a fling, you usually don't question what happened until it is done.

If Garrus' romance was a fling, Shepard would suggest immediately that they get it on in the main batteries, like Jack's renegade romp scene.

Modifié par Alexine, 27 mai 2010 - 10:02 .

[Chimervera]

The group has been created.

Nothing in it yet, but it's only been there less than ten minutes

[manonyuf]

Hello again Clan Vakarian!
I just finished a playthrough romancing Garrus for the first time (I've always been a bromance kinda girl) and I have to say: Wow. Simply wow. I've no other words. I can't believe I've never tried his romance before! I missed out on so much. But better later than never.
I've never seen a romance so well executed and one with such a great development. I've played many Bioware games but I could never really get into any of the romances for some reason. I liked the characters well enough but I always preferred the friendship paths. 
I think it is great that FemShep and Garrus have been friends for some time (do we know how long?) and went through the whole Saren ordeal together, it makes the whole romance more realistic. It's not the "Hi, I know we've known each other for only a week, but I'm in love with you!" type of romance, which I really dislike (I don't mean any particular romance).
And you guys were so right about his awkwardness being adorable, I just couldn't stop smiling during Shep's talks with him. And even his romance scene was great, funny and very touching at the same time. Until now my favourite romance scene was definitely Jack's but Garrus' just forestalled hers.
All in all I found that this was the most enjoyable romance I've ever played in a game.
Enough babbling, just wanted to check in and express my new-found appreciation for the most badass turian in
space!  Might even check in here more often 
 PS: I hope what I wrote was understandable, I'm not very good at expressing myself in english (yet), I'm trying though