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[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Affection

Casual sex, show affection? Usually not.

Modifié par Mr.BlazenGlazen, 27 mai 2010 - 10:58 .

[Andaius20]

I however kinda see most of the LI as Temporary. only long term ones I think are Tali and paragon Jack, as you really help them in a deep way and jump through lots of crap to get there. Miri seems like "Thank you for helping me sex" Garrus is the danger/tension relief sex. (I haven't get to Jacob and thane scenes yet so can't comment on them.)

[Xsause]

*breaks tension with new parody comic that DOESN'T CONTAIN GARRUS, but is still silly*

"I WANT TO BELIEVE", STARRING FEMSHEP AND MIRANDA

[silentstephi]

Xsauce.... you are a genius!

Please tell me you're posting these to Clan V!!!!!!

[Pacifien]

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...
Affection

Casual sex, show affection? Usually not.

If it's casual sex with someone you considered a friend, then I don't see why affection can't be apart of it. Unless I'm mistaken that friends cannot have affection for one another.

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Pacifien wrote...

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...
Affection

Casual sex, show affection? Usually not.

If it's casual sex with someone you considered a friend, then I don't see why affection can't be apart of it. Unless I'm mistaken that friends cannot have affection for one another.

Affection would kind of be the wrong word to put it then. Because if you show affection to someone that means you have deep emotional feelings for that person, whether it would be love or devotion.

[Cerrydd]

Andaius20 wrote...

I however kinda see most of the LI as Temporary. only long term ones I think are Tali and paragon Jack, as you really help them in a deep way and jump through lots of crap to get there. Miri seems like "Thank you for helping me sex" Garrus is the danger/tension relief sex. (I haven't get to Jacob and thane scenes yet so can't comment on them.)

The only romance that is clearly temporary is Jack's renegade romance, but that's not much of a romance. All the other romances have long-term potential, depending on how you see it, or how you want to see it. Every romance has its charms. I don't see how one romance is more temporary then the others, but that's all subjective.

[Andaius20]

Indeed I agree potential is there but this is getting dangerously off topic. Moar Garrus is needed!

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

No offense to anyone here but i first thought that the kaidan/ashley romances was just a fling. When they said that they "loved" you that completely put that scene in a new meaning. Really, we don't know whether or not if it was just temporary or long-term unless they verbally tell us. So far from the mass effect 2 squads the only person who kind of says that she wants a long-term relationship is tali. The rest are kind of unknown until we hear more from them. But for garrus's scene i don't think we would need to much dialouge to figure out what he really feels with shepard.

[Collider]

Obviously none of the romances are temporary. Jack's renegade as Cerry said isn't really a romance.

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Collider wrote...

Obviously none of the romances are temporary. Jack's renegade as Cerry said isn't really a romance.

We don't know that for sure though. Its all subjective until the character actually says it verbally what they feel about shepard.

Modifié par Mr.BlazenGlazen, 27 mai 2010 - 11:22 .

[Andaius20]

I'd Say Paragon Jack falls into the "long term" category automatically. Mostly because you go out of your way to get her head back one straight and mellow her out and put her well on the way to normalville.

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Andaius20 wrote...

I'd Say Paragon Jack falls into the "long term" category automatically. Mostly because you go out of your way to get her head back one straight and mellow her out and put her well on the way to normalville.

So far it seems like Jack and Tali's relationship seems long term. Miranda and Garrus might seem like a fling at first but when you go very deep into it, it might have potential to be much more then that.

[Pacifien]

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...
Affection would kind of be the wrong word to put it then. Because if you show affection to someone that means you have deep emotional feelings for that person, whether it would be love or devotion.

It's really going to come down to how pedantic you want to be about the word "affection," but the word works for me. There's also something to be said about having love for a person and being in love with a person.

There really are so many different levels to relationships and romance. Deepest of loves and happily ever afters are not usually my go-to interpretations on relationships (or stories in general) in any medium.

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

[quote]Pacifien wrote...

[quote]Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

There really are so many different levels to relationships and romance. Deepest of loves and happily ever afters are not usually my go-to interpretations on relationships (or stories in general) in any medium.

[/quote]
Well that explains a lot of things doesn't it? I know what your getting at, though mind you that most of us are on a different bandwagon as you can tell:whistle:

Modifié par Mr.BlazenGlazen, 27 mai 2010 - 11:26 .

[Collider]

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

Collider wrote...

Obviously none of the romances are temporary. Jack's renegade as Cerry said isn't really a romance.

We don't know that for sure though. Its all subjective until the character actually says it verbally what they feel about shepard.

I think it's reasonable to assume or expect that they are going to be long term. This is how Bioware is structuring their romances, they carry over to the next game. The only way I can see any of them as less than long term is if the player ends the romance themselves.

[janeym27]

Pacifien wrote...

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...
Ya it does but once you get really far into it, i think that friends with benefits thing seems somewhat unfitting. Cause if it was just about sex, they wouldn't need the wine, music, or the affectionate headbump thing cause they would just jump right into it. But thats not how it plays out.

Casual sex doesn't mean you can't have foreplay and affection.

What cinces it for me, is the whole "the sex could kill me" thing. You don't want to be doin' that casually.

[Nilfalasiel]

To me, the only 2 romances that could be short-term are Miranda's and Jacob's (no offense meant), mostly because they are presented with a lighter tone. That doesn't mean they are though (explained below). Jack and Tali are both quite obviously long term: Jack, because you need to go out of your way to break her defenses to romance her, and Tali, because Kasumi flat out tells you she loves you. Thane is...as long term as the poor guy has left. Fling + Thane = cannot compute.

Concerning Garrus: for me, friends with benefits means that you are allowed to go look elsewhere and pursue other romantic interests. And yet, Garrus doesn't want to share, any more than any of the other LIs (which is why I see all the LIs as more than friends with benefits). Moreover, the fact that he offers Shep a way out strikes me as odd. She wouldn't need a way out of a "friends with benefits" situation, because there would be one by default. There's no commitment or monogamy implied in "friends with benefits". At least, IMO.

[janeym27]

Nilfalasiel wrote...

Concerning Garrus: for me, friends with benefits means that you are allowed to go look elsewhere and pursue other romantic interests. And yet, Garrus doesn't want to share, any more than any of the other LIs (which is why I see all the LIs as more than friends with benefits). Moreover, the fact that he offers Shep a way out strikes me as odd. She wouldn't need a way out of a "friends with benefits" situation, because there would be one by default. There's no commitment or monogamy implied in "friends with benefits". At least, IMO.

Agreed. "Friends with benefits" doesn't really mind if you look elsewhere. That's one of the benefits.

[Andaius20]

Very good points Nilfasiel.

[Cerrydd]

Collider wrote...

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

We don't know that for sure though. Its all subjective until the character actually says it verbally what they feel about shepard.

I think it's reasonable to assume or expect that they are going to be long term. This is how Bioware is structuring their romances, they carry over to the next game. The only way I can see any of them as less than long term is if the player ends the romance themselves.

This. We can expect it, renegading Jack is not a romance (that's actually casual sex) and Kelly is a fling, the rest of the romances are all equal. To make something appear long-term you don't have to spout I love yous and I want to spend the rest of our lives togethers. How long have they been together? A couple of weeks? It's new, they're (Tali/Garrus) are going from trust, respect and deep friendship to a relationship. They're taking it a day at a time, but because someone doesn't explicitly state what they feel doesn't mean the feelings aren't there.

[Collider]

Nilfalasiel wrote...

To me, the only 2 romances that could be short-term are Miranda's and Jacob's (no offense meant), mostly because they are presented with a lighter tone. That doesn't mean they are though (explained below). Jack and Tali are both quite obviously long term: Jack, because you need to go out of your way to break her defenses to romance her, and Tali, because Kasumi flat out tells you she loves you. Thane is...as long term as the poor guy has left. Fling + Thane = cannot compute.

Concerning Garrus: for me, friends with benefits means that you are allowed to go look elsewhere and pursue other romantic interests. And yet, Garrus doesn't want to share, any more than any of the other LIs (which is why I see all the LIs as more than friends with benefits). Moreover, the fact that he offers Shep a way out strikes me as odd. She wouldn't need a way out of a "friends with benefits" situation, because there would be one by default. There's no commitment or monogamy implied in "friends with benefits". At least, IMO.

I agree completely. I think the romances are only as short or long term as Shepard (/the player) makes them (with the exception of Thane to some extent).

I think what Pacifien is saying is essentially that her Shepard sees the relationship as short term.

While I think most of us agree that Garrus sees the romance as more than just casual sex. It's very apparent to me.

Modifié par Collider, 27 mai 2010 - 11:37 .

[Andaius20]

Nice work on the Pic Cerrdyy, and collider also has a point. It's up to shepard fro the most part regardless of how the relationship begins.

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

It makes a lot of sense now. Deep character analysis, thats one of our specialties in this thread =)

[Nilfalasiel]

Mr.BlazenGlazen wrote...

Deep character analysis, thats one of our specialties in this thread =)

I offer a toast to that!