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[Christmas Ape]

In defense of the gun-wielding stripper asari, we as humans have little understanding of a mono-gendered species with three life phases far more distinct than our own and a thousand year lifespan. Their cultural and personal values could be very different from our own - perhaps even dare I say it, alien, making the issue less weird than it seems? As near as I can tell, the maiden phase is basically three hundred years of being a teenager without the hormonal drive to reproduce. Why wouldn't you go try your hand at mercenary work, or use your higher comfort level with sexuality (likely from being a more involved process than human often-accidental conception) to travel, make friends, and earn fat stacks?

[Andaius20]

[Sialater]

Christmas Ape wrote...

In defense of the gun-wielding stripper asari, we as humans have little understanding of a mono-gendered species with three life phases far more distinct than our own and a thousand year lifespan. Their cultural and personal values could be very different from our own - perhaps even dare I say it, alien, making the issue less weird than it seems? As near as I can tell, the maiden phase is basically three hundred years of being a teenager without the hormonal drive to reproduce. Why wouldn't you go try your hand at mercenary work, or use your higher comfort level with sexuality (likely from being a more involved process than human often-accidental conception) to travel, make friends, and earn fat stacks?

If you don't have fun with it, it's a long damned millenium?


Meanwhile, the humans and turians are policing the galaxy.

[Nilfalasiel]

Sialater wrote...

If you don't have fun with it, it's a long damned millenium?

Heh, fair enough.

@ Andaius: That very first screenshot is gorgeous.

@ Pacifien: Garrus tastes like sugar...mrowr!

But if the human body would recognize that taste as sugar, then the anaphylactic shock theory kinda goes out the window, doesn't it? If it's a recognizable taste, then there's no reason for the human body to freak out at it. At least, no more than it would with more mundane allergens (as it could still freak out at peanuts or pollen, even if it should be able to recognize those molecules). So Shep would have a minor risk of having any reaction at all.

[Andaius20]

Where does it say turians taste like sugar?

[Sialater]

Nilfalasiel wrote...

Sialater wrote...

If you don't have fun with it, it's a long damned millenium?

Heh, fair enough.

@ Andaius: That very first screenshot is gorgeous.

@ Pacifien: Garrus tastes like sugar...mrowr!

But if the human body would recognize that taste as sugar, then the anaphylactic shock theory kinda goes out the window, doesn't it? If it's a recognizable taste, then there's no reason for the human body to freak out at it. At least, no more than it would with more mundane allergens (as it could still freak out at peanuts or pollen, even if it should be able to recognize those molecules). So Shep would have a minor risk of having any reaction at all.

It can still recognize something and flip out.  I'm allergic to sulphur.  Which is actually a molecule in our bodies already.  Your body can and will flip out about anything it deems a threat.  Believe me, just because it would taste sweet doesn't mean anything.  Anti-freeze is apparently sweet, too.

Now, ask me if I think Shep would be prone to this reaction?  Nope, not in a million years.  She's upgraded and she can drink ryncol and live to regret the hangover in the morning.

[Pacifien]

Nilfalasiel wrote...
@ Pacifien: Garrus tastes like sugar...mrowr!

But if the human body would recognize that taste as sugar, then the anaphylactic shock theory kinda goes out the window, doesn't it? If it's a recognizable taste, then there's no reason for the human body to freak out at it. At least, no more than it would with more mundane allergens (as it could still freak out at peanuts or pollen, even if it should be able to recognize those molecules). So Shep would have a minor risk of having any reaction at all.

Yeah, but sugar isn't protein, so really I don't see why the body would react to protein as it would sugar.

Still think the chance of adverse reaction to dextro-amino-based lifeforms is exaggerated way out of proportion, though. A peanut can kill a human and it's levo-amino. So it's all in how a body reacts to foreign molecules.

For instance, my Shepard is the newer improved model with her body's immune reaction kicked up to 11. Turians are nothing more than sugar to her.

[Pacifien]

Andaius20 wrote...
Where does it say turians taste like sugar?

It doesn't. Turians are dextro-amino based lifeforms. Sugar is a dextro facing molecular structure.

[AngryP1xel]

Sialater wrote...
She's upgraded and she can drink ryncol and live to regret the hangover in the morning.

If she can drink ryncol, she can survive Garrus.

[Nilfalasiel]

Sialater wrote...

It can still recognize something and flip out.  I'm allergic to sulphur.  Which is actually a molecule in our bodies already.  Your body can and will flip out about anything it deems a threat.  Believe me, just because it would taste sweet doesn't mean anything.  Anti-freeze is apparently sweet, too.

Now, ask me if I think Shep would be prone to this reaction?  Nope, not in a million years.  She's upgraded and she can drink ryncol and live to regret the hangover in the morning.

Oh, I know the body can flip out at anything: I'm allergic to pollen and cats myself (and I just so happen to love cats X_X). What I meant is that the threat of an allergic reaction to Garrus wouldn't be any worse than the threat of an allergic reaction to any of the more common allergens, unlike what Mordin's advice implies.

[AngryP1xel]

To be fair, Mordin never specifically said that anaphylactic shock was for sure going to happen or even that it was common. He just said that it was a possible reaction to ingestion of dextro-based tissues and fluids. Just because he said it's possible, doesn't mean it's common.

[Nilfalasiel]

AngryP1xel wrote...

To be fair, Mordin never specifically said that anaphylactic shock was for sure going to happen or even that it was common. He just said that it was a possible reaction to ingestion of dextro-based tissues and fluids. Just because he said it's possible, doesn't mean it's common.

Well, yeah, but you're not going to systematically warn everyone who eats an egg that they could have an allergic reaction to it. It's possible, but it's not frequent. The fact that Mordin considers it a necessary warning (and to Cyber!Shepard, of all people) sounds to me like he's implying that a reaction is more frequent in that case.

...Or maybe it's just me reading too much into it. It's already highly debatable that he's being serious anyway.

[Sialater]

AngryP1xel wrote...

To be fair, Mordin never specifically said that anaphylactic shock was for sure going to happen or even that it was common. He just said that it was a possible reaction to ingestion of dextro-based tissues and fluids. Just because he said it's possible, doesn't mean it's common.

It's like that list of side-effects in the drug commercials.

[Meltcare]

Nilfalasiel wrote...

AngryP1xel wrote...

To be fair, Mordin never specifically said that anaphylactic shock was for sure going to happen or even that it was common. He just said that it was a possible reaction to ingestion of dextro-based tissues and fluids. Just because he said it's possible, doesn't mean it's common.

Well, yeah, but you're not going to systematically warn everyone who eats an egg that they could have an allergic reaction to it. It's possible, but it's not frequent. The fact that Mordin considers it a necessary warning (and to Cyber!Shepard, of all people) sounds to me like he's implying that a reaction is more frequent in that case.

...Or maybe it's just me reading too much into it. It's already highly debatable that he's being serious anyway.

Oh come on Mordin wouldn't be the very model of a SCIENTIST salarian if he didn't mention everything that he knows about the subject. So i don't think this allergic reaction is more common than others.

[AngryP1xel]

Sialater wrote...

AngryP1xel wrote...

To be fair, Mordin never specifically said that anaphylactic shock was for sure going to happen or even that it was common. He just said that it was a possible reaction to ingestion of dextro-based tissues and fluids. Just because he said it's possible, doesn't mean it's common.

It's like that list of side-effects in the drug commercials.

Side effects from sex with Garrus may include:
Fainting, dizziness, lack of sexual attraction to humans, high blood pressure, swelling, chafing, rash, and in rare instances anaphylactic shock may be possible.  Please consult your doctor before engaging in stress relieving activities with Garrus Vakarian.

Modifié par AngryP1xel, 28 mai 2010 - 06:25 .

[Sialater]

AngryP1xel wrote...

Sialater wrote...

AngryP1xel wrote...

To be fair, Mordin never specifically said that anaphylactic shock was for sure going to happen or even that it was common. He just said that it was a possible reaction to ingestion of dextro-based tissues and fluids. Just because he said it's possible, doesn't mean it's common.

It's like that list of side-effects in the drug commercials.

Side effects from sex with Garrus may include:
Fainting, dizziness, lack of sexual attraction to humans, high blood pressure, swelling, chafing, rash, and in rare instances anaphylactic shock may be possible.  Please consult your doctor before engaging in stress relieving activities with Garrus Vakarian.

You just made my day.  Thanks.

[AngryP1xel]

You're welcome Sia. Now take your Garrus pills.

[Cerrydd]

Taking something from a lot of pages back...

Brass_Buckles wrote...

I suspect that the main romance scene will be right at the end before the final mission as it was in ME1 and ME2. But, if you've got a previous-game love interest around you may get to be more flirty with them, etc.

Yeah, I don't expect them to change the moment of the romance scene. But I do wonder about what the new romance scene will look like. I really liked it that they made every scene unique in ME2, because the ME1 LI's all got the same scenario with the only difference being the people in it. If BW really brings back all the squadmembers from 1 & 2 (I hope so), they'll have 9 LI's to work with. It's a lot, but I'm curious to see how BW will pull that one off.

I also hope that you actually get the feeling that you're in a romance in ME3. It doesn't have to be anything major, some slight changes in dialogue could be enough. One thing that I really liked in DA:O was the fact that other party members would comment on your romance. It would be nice to hear what other squadmembers think of Shepard getting it on with another teammate, and in the case of a Garrus romance, what they think about humans and turians in a relationship.

I'm actually more interested in what kind of epilogue (if any) we'll get. Like I said before, I kind of feel like paragon-Garrus will go back to C-Sec and proceed to make a difference there. Renegade-Garrus will become a renowned Spectre. Neutral-Garrus will probably run back to Omega or become a drunk or something. If you romanced him and don't dump him in ME3, he'll stick around with your Shepard. If you do dump him, then, ouch, you're unspeakably cruel.

This too. We've been able to influence him in 2 games now, I hope this paragon/renegade influence will show during ME3 and in the epilogue. It's the last part, so BW can go crazy with it without worrying about ME4. As long as Garrus won't turn into a raging lunatic, things will be just fine.

Gahhhhh I want ME3 nao...

[Cra5y Pineapple]

Buggirl70 wrote...

janeym27 wrote...

Buggirl70 wrote...

Evening all - Friday night musings:

I've just seen a good friend of mine belly dancing on stage she is friggin awesome - I think Garrus would approve! What do you guys think?

However I have also just finished watching the spectacle that is Eurovision too - now I'm not sure what Garrus would think of that - perhaps his choice would be the Latvian Spice Girls, or maybe that dude with the weird haircut from Serbia, or perhaps that woman from Iceland whose voice was bigger than that Volcano I can't pronounce, or maybe that nice little Belgian boy with the acoustic guitar - oh the choice - oh the humanity!!!!!!!!!

Hmmm... belly dancing would certainly be 'exotic' by turian standards (can they even have bellies with their carapace?) Good on you mate, though.

I think it's already been established that Garrus has questionable music tastes, so Eurovision would be right up his ally! lol

Lativan Spice Girls. Clearly.

I don't think a Turian could do the "shimmying" with a carapace! You need to be soft and squishy for that.

2nd Semi results have just come in for Euro  - unfortuneately Latvian spice girls didnt make it...... poor Garrus!  Didnt see the 1st semi so will have to wait a couple of days for the final - I'm sure there is a group worthy of Garrus's tastes!

Garrus has horrible music taste, and I mean horrible.
So he'll probably support the UK (seriously, they get crapper every year, who judges who gets into to Eurovision for the UK anyway? And this is coming from someone who lives there lol)

I'm liking the "Garrus Facts" Sigs! But seriously, they are really long...

[Sialater]

AngryP1xel wrote...

You're welcome Sia. Now take your Garrus pills.

Yes, mom.  [/best Joker voice]

[danitiwa]

AngryP1xel wrote...

Xsause wrote...

Love how the drawing's coming along, Dani! Keep up the amazing work!

You confused me for a second since my real name is Dani.  Ok, it's Danielle but everyone calls me Dani.

Well thanks you guys, you're too nice. Sorry it's taking so long. So much schoolwork, all the time. High school sucks. Glad it's almost over.


My real name is Dani too lol. My name is kind of the Slavic version of yours. Danica, (pronounced ts instead of c). Maybe we can arrange numbers or something.

AngryP1xel wrote...

Sialater wrote...

AngryP1xel
wrote...

To be fair, Mordin never specifically said that
anaphylactic shock was for sure going to happen or even that it was
common. He just said that it was a possible reaction to ingestion of
dextro-based tissues and fluids. Just because he said it's possible,
doesn't mean it's common.

It's like that list of
side-effects in the drug commercials.

Side effects
from sex with Garrus may include:
Fainting, dizziness, lack of sexual
attraction to humans, high blood pressure, swelling, chafing, rash, and
in rare instances anaphylactic shock may be possible.  Please consult
your doctor before engaging in stress relieving activities with Garrus
Vakarian.

Please consult your salarian doctor who has
homocidal tendancies is more like it.

Spot on, let's go advertise Garrus. [smilie]../../../images/forum/emoticons/wizard.png[/smilie]

About his music tastes, Garrus obviously has awful music taste if he picked that flux track for a romantic evening because he liked it. If he just thought Shepard would then I guess he doesn't.

Modifié par danitiwa, 28 mai 2010 - 07:34 .

[rinoe]

AngryP1xel wrote...

To be fair, Mordin never specifically said that  anaphylactic shock was for sure going to happen or even that it was common. He just said that it was a possible reaction to ingestion of dextro-based tissues and fluids. Just because he said it's possible, doesn't mean it's common.

Yeah, all that talk about Shepard could be allergic to Garrus:)
But it works both ways, it should at least So Garrus could get anaphylactic shock as well.... But Mordin never said Shepard could be danger to Garrus...
...or it is bcs just Shepard suppose to ingest... so if she is not, all should be safe :D

[lovgreno]

AngryP1xel wrote...
Side effects from sex with Garrus may include:
Fainting, dizziness, lack of sexual attraction to humans, high blood pressure, swelling, chafing, rash, and in rare instances anaphylactic shock may be possible.  Please consult your doctor before engaging in stress relieving activities with Garrus Vakarian.

...It was totaly worth it.

[Nevara]

Alright, I know this is way off topic, Garrus related, but off topic from main discussion.   I need to get this off my chest before I burst...

To start, I need to acknowledge the fact that I am a "bad" influence on people.  Well, my mom says I'm a bad influence, for turning my younger sisters into Vakarianites.  One's 13 the other is 22 and neither of them have played the games.

My 13 yo sis got entranced w/ the story and I played both games for her so she understood what I was talking about.  She loves her some Garrus.  My 22 yo sis has started watching me play the game so she understands the story but also loves Garrus as well...

Well my main point to this before I sob, we had all gotten together, my sisters, my sister's spouse, and my spouse had all gotten together to watch my husband finish the game.  He was on his final run and was being a jerk to everyone.  It was in essence his true suicide run.  No upgrades, no loyalty missions.  So we're sitting their watching and my sisters and I were going nuts over his lack of work.  We sat there stunned as we watched in horror, absolute horror of our best buddy dying.

One sis cried (she's preggers, so hormones don't help), the other choked on ice cream (ice cream... really?), and I shrieked alittle.  We all jumped off the couch and left the room.  Both my sister's husband and mine laughed hysterically at our reactions and commented on how awkward we were about our feelings to Garrus dying...

Later, dear spouse of mine told me that he had set it up w/ my sis's hubby to do it just to get a rise out of us.  Well in the end it failed for both of them.  My sister found out on the way home from our house that night from Matt, and she berated (hormones, again, maybe?) him all the way home.  My youngest sister is banned from coming over anymore.  Like I said "bad influence".  And I made my spouse watch my paramour scene w/ GarGar for the umpteenth time for sweet amusement.

Pay back is lovely, but Garrus love is even sweeter. 

[rinoe]

Nevara wrote...

To start, I need to acknowledge the fact that I am a "bad" influence on people.  Well, my mom says I'm a bad influence, for turning my younger sisters into Vakarianites.  One's 13 the other is 22 and neither of them have played the games.
Pay back is lovely, but Garrus love is even sweeter. 

I do not think it is 'bad' at all:)

I don't have sisters, but I forced almost all my friends to play ME. And all of them ( girls) ends loving Garrus
One started with opinion we are idiots, and turians are ugly ( she never ever before played games, and have nothing in common with SF as well) She ended up fighting with her boyfriend for the xbox time ( it was hard fight, good thing I have my own PC and I don't need to share:D).
Now she is in love with Garrus like the rest of us