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[Nivenus]

danitiwa wrote...

This is me procrastinating my English Essay. :I

Procrastination triumphs once more! Huzzah!

No, seriously, that's a very nice concept for female turians.

It's not perfect, but it's my idea of what a female turian might look like. Turians are cat-like, so focusing on more feline features would make them more attractive to humans and still keep them believable. We don't want them to look hideous to us, because that drops game sales. :\\\\ Iss tru, with the Asari and Quarians at least. They're made to look curvy and booby to attract male buyers.
The game designers added features that are distinctively attractive to humans into some of the alien species, like Thane and Garrus for example, they have to be romancable. So they have to be attractive to us girls. (Large shoulders/ ribcage, tall, I can make a list.)

I was going to ramble in response to what you said about asari and quarians (true as it is) with how Garrus and Thane were also built to be attractive to women, but you nailed that one preemptively, so I'll let it go.

Regardless, speaking as one hot-blooded heterosexual male gamer, I approve. Tastefully done and definitely female without screaming mammalian.

[Alexine]

Nice drawing, danitiwa!

I would think they'll make turian females more aesthetically pleasing. But I think if game devs make them, they'll probably put boobs on then and say that in order to compete with asari they wear some kind of 'chicken fillet'.

Modifié par Alexine, 30 mai 2010 - 09:25 .

[Collider]

Iss tru, with the Asari and Quarians at least. They're made to look curvy and booby to attract male buyers.

Not really with Quarians - Tali wasn't an LI in ME1 so I don't really see them as designing her race for male buyers. The Asari though...basically human female lesbians (I could go on).

As for Turian females, I prefer them not to have breasts. I guess I wouldn't care if they did, but I'd rather keep some of the human physical attributes in unrevealed genders/races at a minimum at this point. My favorite interpretation is yours and the one that looked like the official concept art for the male turian -

Still very female, but no boobage.

Modifié par Collider, 30 mai 2010 - 09:26 .

[Alexine]

I like the actual body of the fanart, but the head just looks a little off to me. I kind of imagine turian females to have more delicate mandibles and longer fringe.

[danitiwa]

Hahaha. chicken filet.
It's hard to give Turians boobs, because they're mostly made up of hard surfaces.

But now the question is... Do they lay eggs? :I They're sure as hell not mammals. Ffff this question will bug me for the rest of my life.

@Nivenus, procrastination is a blessing in disguise.

Modifié par danitiwa, 30 mai 2010 - 09:29 .

[Collider]

It's not perfect, but it's a pretty decent interpretation. I wouldn't mind if they made Turian females look something like that. I think the mandibles for them need to stand out a bit more though, IMO.

Modifié par Collider, 30 mai 2010 - 09:30 .

[Collider]

danitiwa wrote...

Hahaha. chicken filet.
It's hard to give Turians boobs, because they're mostly made up of hard surfaces.

But now the question is... Do they lay eggs? :I They're sure as hell not mammals. Ffff this question will bug me for the rest of my life.

They don't have to. After all they're aliens, they can be any wacky combination of things.

[Alexine]

When I think of Turians and eggs, I think of penguins somehow (don't ask me how I got that in my mind), in terms of social things, such as the father looking after the egg and then the child while the mother goes away and does her business.



But I think turians give birth to live young. Just don't see Garrus hatching out of an egg.

[danitiwa]

Oh god Garrus chick. Now I see a baby turian with wings. :|

Collider, you might not have noticed how curvy Tali is and how tight her environmental suit is. She's really got a very nice body if you look at it from a human standpoint. She has great boobs and a nice butt, even though you can't see her face she's very anatomically attractive. Even Kenneth Donelly says so in game.

Modifié par danitiwa, 30 mai 2010 - 09:33 .

[Collider]

danitiwa wrote...

Collider, you might not have noticed how curvy Tali is and how tight her environmental suit is. She's really got a very nice body if you look at it from a human standpoint. She has great boobs and a nice butt, even though you can't see her face she's very anatomically attractive. Even Kenneth Donelly says so.

True, but she wasn't an LI in ME1 so I'm not sure if they designed her race in particular to be attractive to males (kind of like how Garrus and other Turians were attractive to many women even though they probably weren't going for that on purpose). Her design in ME2 most likely changed partly for the fact that she was an LI, though.

Modifié par Collider, 30 mai 2010 - 09:36 .

[Collider]

Oh god Garrus chick. Now I see a baby turian with wings. :|

Now no one from this thread will ever be able to eat eggs ever again XD

[Alexine]

I think both Garrus and Tali had an upgrade since they were going to be LIs. Garrus finally got the Heavy Armour that they didn't give him in ME1 to bulk him up and make him look more masculine. And Tali doesn't have that second-hand look in ME1 (that right arm of hers I expect to have a third arm growing out of it).

[Nevara]

[Collider]

Nevara wrote...

I am never going to eat eggs ever again. Well, I'm already vegeterian, but still.

[danitiwa]

OH never mind, love interests. 

OH GOD THAT PICTURE.

Modifié par danitiwa, 30 mai 2010 - 09:40 .

[Alexine]

Nevara wrote...

Reaction: Saphira!!

Why does it remind me of Eragon?

Modifié par Alexine, 30 mai 2010 - 09:42 .

[Collider]

LI's love interest

[Alexine]

danitiwa wrote...

Forgive me, but what does LI stand for? >_< I feel like a noob because I have no idea.

LI stands for Love Interest. Yeah, I didn't get it either until I figured it out.

[Nevara]

danitiwa wrote...

Forgive me, but what does LI stand for? >_< I feel like a noob because I have no idea.

LI= Love Interest

[danitiwa]

Right, right, realized right before you posted. My mistake.



Oh god that picture will never leave me alone. Ever.

[danitiwa]

I do quite like the baby turian's head though. It's very believable and cute at the same time.

Which brings forth another questioning of the ME universe, where are all the kids? They talk about kids sometimes like the whole "HE'S ALL I HAVE LEFT OF JACOB" scenario, but we never see any kids of any race whatsoever. It's like the ME universe is made up of only adults. The citadel should have some kids in it, it's the "safest" (haha) place in space, even though it is kind of dull. I can understand places like Omega not having any kids, but still.

Modifié par danitiwa, 30 mai 2010 - 09:44 .

[Collider]

Alright, question time - for the girls, what first attracted you to Garrus? Did you find him interesting in that way in ME1, or was it something that set in in ME2? What's your favorite part of Garrus' personality? Favorite part of his romance?



For the guys (unless you're flammie, haha), why do you see Garrus as a "bro" or cool character?

[Collider]

danitiwa wrote...

I do quite like the baby turian's head though. It's very believable and cute at the same time.

Which brings forth another questioning of the ME universe, where are all the kids? They talk about kids sometimes like the whole "HE'S ALL I HAVE LEFT OF JACOB" scenario, but we never see any kids of any race whatsoever. It's like the ME universe is made up of only adults. The citadel should have some kids in it, it's the "safest" (haha) place in space, even though it is kind of dull. I can understand places like Omega not having any kids, but still.

IMO it might be a matter of resources. For teenagers/younger adults, it's easier just to use the same male/female body that nearly every NPC uses, just changing the face/voice to depict the relative use. Apparently, this same issue of resources was why there were no Turian females in ME1 - something about space or memory or something. So basically they don't want to make models for children and/or they don't see much benefit coming from it.

[Alexine]

I suppose the reason why kids don't leave home-world or the colonies that they had been established in. I recalled from a particular interview from Casey Hudson or someone from BW that most of the places Shepard visits in both ME series are more adult places (though there is some kind of plot hole in a few of them).

[Nivenus]

As for turian reproduction, since they're explicitly bird-like (with reptilian-like aspects as well) I tend to think of turians as coming from eggs, though vivparous or ovoviviparous (eggs that hatch as they're being "laid"). And while many egg-laying species do not have... ahem, the same genitalia as one might expect in a human, it's not quite that simple and some birds do have analogues to human sexual organs so... intimacy of that sort would still be possible with a turian, though it might require some... work.

Hell, even if they did have a cloaca, it'd still be possible, it'd just require some more creativity on the part of the couple.

Perhaps enough on that subject. As a writer who thinks about alien biology in my own writing I don't find the subject all that distasteful if a bit awkward, though I can appreciate that others might.

Collider wrote...

Iss tru, with the Asari and Quarians at least. They're made to look curvy and booby to attract male buyers.

Not
really with Quarians - Tali wasn't an LI in ME1 so I don't really see
them as designing her race for male buyers. The Asari
though...basically human female lesbians (I could go on).

Even assuming Tali wasn't an intended LI as some claim she was (whereas with Garrus we know that he wasn't), I don't think that precludes the argument that she was designed to be attractive. BioWare, I think, designs most of its characters to be fairly attractive, no matter if they're romanceable or enough. Just look at Wynne from DA:O. She's practically a recolored forty year old with a handful of wrinkles and a lean, well-conditioned body. She's clearly intended to be grandmotherly but that didn't stop BioWare from stacking her so to speak.

Same goes for Sagacious Zu in JE or Canderous in KotOR. They're not romances, but they're still designed to be attractive.

Granted, the examples I bring up are humans, but I think it stands to reason that BioWare has that general approach to character design. Let's not forget that physical attractiveness is attractive for more reasons than sex. A good-looking person is also considered, generally, more trustworthy and admirable at a subconscious level.

That turian art makes me think of hork-bajir from Animorphs.

Sorry, my generation is showing again.

Modifié par Nivenus, 30 mai 2010 - 09:50 .