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[Cynical_Wanderer]

I can't believe KAIDAN, frakking KAIDAN has more appreciation pages than Garrus! Keep pushing!

[Nilfalasiel]

Cynical_Wanderer wrote...

I can't believe KAIDAN, frakking KAIDAN has more appreciation pages than Garrus! Keep pushing!

Eh, it's not the quantity, but the quality that matters  I like to think that the Garrus thread produces sensible discussion and wall-o'-text posts that are worth, like, 4 posts on a regular thread.

...when we're not posting scary mutant baby pics, comics about bad fanfiction or Monty Python parodies that is...

Ahem.

@ lovgreno: Scars are one thing. Dismemberment is another. One is sexy. The other? Nnnnot quite.

[Alexine]

On topic with scars: 'Krogans think they are sexy. Me, I go for asses'

Garrus, however has both. XD

And we post weird stuff, but very much on-topic discussions concerning Garrus and our obsession with turians. 

Modifié par Alexine, 03 juin 2010 - 10:36 .

[Bugsie]

@Nilfalasiel - sensible, yes
@Alexine - occasionally weird, yes
but this is thread about a character who is high quality, quirky, awesome, lovable, cheerful, funny, cheeky, sexy, unpretentious, brave, self sacrificing (the adjectives could be endless, a post for each new one just to bump this thread should do the trick) 

Modifié par Buggirl70, 03 juin 2010 - 10:45 .

[lovgreno]

Nilfalasiel wrote...
@ lovgreno: Scars are one thing. Dismemberment is another. One is sexy. The other? Nnnnot quite.

Don't worry, Garrus just uses a staplegun to get in one piece again and then he is fit for duty again.

[Nilfalasiel]

@ lovgreno: Lol, now I have an image of Garrus looking like Sally the ragdoll from Nightmare Before Christmas.

So I was just listening to Pink Floyd's Wish You Were Here (one of my favourite songs ever), and it suddenly occurred to me that it could be seen as Shep's perspective on what Garrus' experience on Omega has done to him. In order: skewed morality and confusion about what's right and wrong, not realizing Sidonis' betrayal, Shep's death and her/his example being downplayed, trading a small role in C-Sec for a dead-end vigilante career, backpedalling on his evolution in ME1 to some extent, still being afraid of failure.

So, so you think you can tell
Heaven from hell?
Blue skies from pain?
Can you tell a green field
From a cold steel rail?
A smile from a veil?
Do you think you can tell?

And did they get you to trade
Your heroes for ghosts?
Hot ashes for trees?
Hot air for a cool breeze?
Cold comfort for change?
Did you exchange
A walk-on part in a war
For a lead role in a cage?

How I wish, how I wish you were here
We're just two lost souls swimming in a fish bowl
Year after year
Running over the same old ground
What have we found?
The same old fears
Wish you were here

Modifié par Nilfalasiel, 03 juin 2010 - 10:55 .

[Jackalope]

kglaser wrote...

I know, right? I've got a Thane-romance playthrough, but it feels...hollow. :/
I'll do it though, for science.

I was planning to do the Thane romance on my paragon Shep, but then Garrus got in the way.

Second playthrough my paragade Shep (she was Renegade in ME1) seem to be a better fit for Garrus than Thane.

Does that make sense?  Paragon, Paragae, or Renegade, Garrus seems a good match.  Probably because he crosses the line so easily himself.  Thane is just...I can't be mean to him.  Or around him.

[Bugsie]

Jackalope wrote...

.....  Paragon, Paragae, or Renegade, Garrus seems a good match.  Probably because he crosses the line so easily himself.  Thane is just...I can't be mean to him.  Or around him.

I don't think there is any possible way NOT to get Garrus's loyalty, someone correct me if I'm wrong.  He is all bending to Sheps needs. 

[Jackalope]

Hmmm...physically, Garrus has reach, but morally, he's got flexibility.

[Bugsie]

Jackalope wrote...

Hmmm...physically, Garrus has reach, but morally, he's got flexibility.

heh! Well said!

[lovgreno]

Buggirl70 wrote...

Jackalope wrote...

Hmmm...physically, Garrus has reach, but morally, he's got flexibility.

heh! Well said!

And I must agree!
Thanks for the llama by the way Buggirl.

@Nialafsiel, you hot the nail with those lyrics!  Definitely Garrus.

[Bugsie]

Your welcome Lovgreno!



By the way does anyone have any full length pics of Garrus in armour standing up straight? I need one for a digital creation. I've been looking on the web, but have had to turn to the eye bleach, there are things out there that should never be seen.

[Nilfalasiel]

Buggirl70 wrote...

I don't think there is any possible way NOT to get Garrus's loyalty, someone correct me if I'm wrong.  He is all bending to Sheps needs. 

No, you can't fail Garrus' LM. Thane's, however, can be failed. So Garrus can reach different conclusions and be flexible with them.  

But yeah...there are places on the internet where the sun was never meant to shine. Or at least, should never shine. Heck, not even a flashlight should shine there.

@ Jackalope: Think of it this way: Thane's got a pretty unsavoury outlook on life. He thinks that he can justify his job as an assassin by saying that his body is a tool. You can see that as a somewhat Renegade attitude. Of course, you don't have to be mean to him about it. In fact, a Renegade Shep would probably agree, on a certain level.

@ lovgreno: Hehe, thanks!

[janeym27]

Nilfalasiel wrote...

The Bridgekeeper sequence with Garrus, Jacob and Shep is made of pure win!

I was about to suggest doing the Black Knight confrontation, but then I remembered it would entail dismembering Garrus.

And that's not a happy thought.

But it's only a flesh wound!

Ha: minor Garrus related lol at work today. We did 'team building' where we had to say what each other's strengths and weaknesses were. For me, the terms 'flexible' came up four or five times, and I giggled like an eejit. Needless to say, the joke was lost on the rest of the office.
So apparently, I genuinely do have flexibility....

[Bugsie]

I think if memory serves me right in ME1 if you paragon Garrus he is inclined towards returing to C-sec, if you Renegade him you push him towards being a Spectre, I guess they sort of did something similar here in terms of a direction ie Paragon him and he leans towards authority, Renegade his vigilantism is encouraged. For any kind of Shep you play its a win-win

Modifié par Buggirl70, 03 juin 2010 - 11:53 .

[lovgreno]

janeym27 wrote...
Ha: minor Garrus related lol at work today. We did 'team building' where we had to say what each other's strengths and weaknesses were. For me, the terms 'flexible' came up four or five times, and I giggled like an eejit. Needless to say, the joke was lost on the rest of the office.
So apparently, I genuinely do have flexibility....

You know, a similar thing happened to me recently. I had to say that  I have reach several times. It took a lot of self controll but I managed to keep a neutral expression.

[Bugsie]

Gonna say goodnight Clan V - this sick Buggirl is off to bed.......

[Alexine]

Aww, get well soon, Buggirl!

For Garrus discussion time! Since we all love Garrus here (who doesn't?  ), is there anything at all that you didn't like about Garrus? Any of his flaws that if removed would have made him a whole lot better? I'm not making this post to fuel Garrus-bashing, but I'm just curious to what people liked and not liked about Garrus.

[Twilight_Princess]

Alexine wrote...

Aww, get well soon, Buggirl!

For Garrus discussion time! Since we all love Garrus here (who doesn't?  ), is there anything at all that you didn't like about Garrus? Any of his flaws that if removed would have made him a whole lot better? I'm not making this post to fuel Garrus-bashing, but I'm just curious to what people liked and not liked about Garrus.

CALIBRATIONS

his only flaw in my eyes He didn't talk enough in ME2 compared to the first game. They REALLY need to make a joke about this in ME3

Shepard: Hey Garrus , have you got a minute?
Garrus: Can it wait for a bit? I'm in the middle of some...just kidding Shepard , what do you need.

[Cerrydd]

Alexine wrote...

Aww, get well soon, Buggirl!

For Garrus discussion time! Since we all love Garrus here (who doesn't?  ), is there anything at all that you didn't like about Garrus? Any of his flaws that if removed would have made him a whole lot better? I'm not making this post to fuel Garrus-bashing, but I'm just curious to what people liked and not liked about Garrus.

Yes Buggirl, get well soon. Or not, so you can stay home and spend your entire day here (I will check some screenshots if I can find a Garrus that you're looking for)

What I sometimes don't like about Garrus is his hotheadedness (is that even a word?). I love it that he's so determined and knows what he wants to do, but sometimes I want to grab him and tell him to slow the **** down and think before he acts, like with Sidonis. Other than that, the calibrations of course... but that's not his fault, BW silenced him! Damn you BW!

In other news, I had a test today and I screwed up. And my usual routine after making a test (which I screw up all the time) is spend money. Now I bought a drawing tablet. I don't even know why, because I think I've already let you all know that I can't draw. x100000

(even though I'm secretly working on something, but I doubt it will ever see the daylight )

[Sialater]

Buggirl70 wrote...

I think if memory serves me right in ME1 if you paragon Garrus he is inclined towards returing to C-sec, if you Renegade him you push him towards being a Spectre, I guess they sort of did something similar here in terms of a direction ie Paragon him and he leans towards authority, Renegade his vigilantism is encouraged. For any kind of Shep you play its a win-win

Actually, if you paragon him in ME1, he goes back to C-Sec and applies to the Spectres.  If you renegade him, he skips C-Sec.

[smecky-kitteh]

Sialater wrote...

Buggirl70 wrote...

I think if memory serves me right in ME1 if you paragon Garrus he is inclined towards returing to C-sec, if you Renegade him you push him towards being a Spectre, I guess they sort of did something similar here in terms of a direction ie Paragon him and he leans towards authority, Renegade his vigilantism is encouraged. For any kind of Shep you play its a win-win

Actually, if you paragon him in ME1, he goes back to C-Sec and applies to the Spectres.  If you renegade him, he skips C-Sec.

I alway's renegade him in ME1. that Dr.heart was a ****** and deserved  it. what happens if you kill the mad Dr for him? does he say or do anything in ME2?

[Alexine]

The only thing I didn't like about Garrus is his lack of change in personality. I had hoped he'd changed to either a paragon/renegade in ME2, depending on your choices in ME1. But there is no change, although it could be BW's fault for that (with the calibrations and dialogue)

Cerrydd wrote...

What I sometimes don't like about Garrus is his hotheadedness (is that even a word?). I love it that he's so determined and knows what he wants to do, but sometimes I want to grab him and tell him to slow the **** down and think before he acts, like with Sidonis. Other than that, the calibrations of course... but that's not his fault, BW silenced him! Damn you BW!

In other news, I had a test today and I screwed up. And my usual routine after making a test (which I screw up all the time) is spend money. Now I bought a drawing tablet. I don't even know why, because I think I've already let you all know that I can't draw. x100000

(even though I'm secretly working on something, but I doubt it will ever see the daylight )

I'm sort of like you, Cerrydd as well. Garrus' being hot-headed can be at times annoying, although I think he's toned down a lot in ME2 from ME1, he's still kind of like that.

And a tablet! I really want to get one too, but I'm so poor (buying equipment for arts school drains my funds), so I always try to borrow the uni's one to use.

Modifié par Alexine, 03 juin 2010 - 01:44 .

[Sialater]

smecky-kitteh wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Buggirl70 wrote...

I think if memory serves me right in ME1 if you paragon Garrus he is inclined towards returing to C-sec, if you Renegade him you push him towards being a Spectre, I guess they sort of did something similar here in terms of a direction ie Paragon him and he leans towards authority, Renegade his vigilantism is encouraged. For any kind of Shep you play its a win-win

Actually, if you paragon him in ME1, he goes back to C-Sec and applies to the Spectres.  If you renegade him, he skips C-Sec.

I alway's renegade him in ME1. that Dr.heart was a ****** and deserved  it. what happens if you kill the mad Dr for him? does he say or do anything in ME2?

The doctor dies either way.  He just attacks you if you take the Paragon route.  Garrus goes to Spectre training and I don't think you get the line about how he tried to avoid civilian casualties, though.

[Pacifien]

Sialater wrote...
Actually, if you paragon him in ME1, he goes back to C-Sec and applies to the Spectres.  If you renegade him, he skips C-Sec.

I've always gone the paragon route in ME1, and he talks about his return to C-Sec and dissatisfaction with it in ME2. What's he say if he planned to skip C-Sec?