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[Andaius20]

Waves at Miri, hey how's it going sorry I seem to have missed you.

For all those who like my screencaps keep this link handy. http://tangentgirls....lery/v/Andaius/

Added more to it, not all Garrus, new shots last 2 on page 22 all the way to page 25.

Modifié par Andaius20, 05 juin 2010 - 07:26 .

[lovgreno]

Christmas Ape wrote...
There's also the "salarians only sleep 2 hours every 24" thing - he can catch shift change gossip, mess hall chatter, third watch banter between the four crewmen on duty, any conversation really. Probably subverted some of the bugs as well - he is former STG, I'm sure he's watching his back.
It's his complete and utter lack of shame regarding the subject - appropriate for a salarian scientist (or is that scientist salarian? ) - that gets me about them. It's a conversation I imagine them having not quite far enough from other crewmen for Garrus' liking, somewhere about halfway up the walkway to the Main Battery. Mordin rattling on, Gardner trying not to make it obvious he's listening, Garrus fidgeting uncomfortably with the ration pack that was the sole reason
he came out at all, Kasumi cloaked and stealing oranges from the mess "just to keep busy"...

Good arguments, I am convinced. As a salarian ex STG on board a Cerberus vessel it's probably best to play it safe. Poor Shepard is the commander of a ship full of voyeurs.

[Bugsie]

Ok guys I've been lurking and pottering around on the computer - here's my Garrus contribution for a rainy Saturday.... Inspired by Rene Magritte, Belgian surrealist painter who I like a lot!

[lovgreno]

^I belive a quote from the Weather Girls is usefull about this: "It's raining men. hallelujah!"

And yes Magritte is something special.

[Bugsie]

I suspect we would need to be raining lots of Garrus's in order to please everyone on this thread! There just isn't enough of that darn Turian to go round!

[Kim Shepard]

Pacifien wrote...

Well, technically, you won't know Saren is going to Ilos until you pick up Liara so she can tell you.

I always thought it made sense to do Noveria last. I'm not sure where Saren got his information that the Conduit was on Ilos, but I had always assumed it was information he gained soon after using the beacon on Eden Prime. Plus he got the cipher before you. The only other piece of the puzzle he needs is the location of the Mu Relay, so once Benezia gives it to him, what is he doing? His next stop should have been Ilos.

I forgot Liara was the one who told Shepard about Ilos. Well, at least there's a good reason for recruiting her after Virmire then. (On my current playthrough, I used this order - Feros, Therum, Noveria, and Virmire is next.)

Apparently, Saren is waiting for Shepard to catch up with him. Trying to keep Shepard in the game? xD

@ Buggirl70: That Garrus image is awesome. The artwork looks familiar. Maybe I've seen what the original looked like at some point.

I've also figured out how to position the camera in a way that gives me a close-up of Garrus when he's working on the Mako. If the camera goes too close to Garrus though, you get to see "inside" his head, and it's hollow.

[Andaius20]

Buggirl70 wrote...

I suspect we would need to be raining lots of Garrus's in order to please everyone on this thread! There just isn't enough of that darn Turian to go round!

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Modifié par Andaius20, 05 juin 2010 - 07:55 .

[Bugsie]

Thanks! - this was the inspiration - http://en.wikipedia....onda_(painting)

[Kim Shepard]

Buggirl70 wrote...

Thanks! - this was the inspiration - http://en.wikipedia....onda_(painting)

The original is cool too (and definitely looks like it would fit well with "It's Raining Men" xD).

@ Andaius20: When does Garrus say that line? "Relax. Don't do anything you'll regret."

[Twilight_Princess]

 (on the subject of finding out new things) I did more different things while on noveria;

I took Lorik's evidence to that as*hole salerian but didn't hand it over (used intimidate) I just blackmail him for cash then I gave it to lorik afterwards. I got more money out of Lorik by reminding him "I just saved you from a nasty shower scene in prison" LOL so If you talk to the salerian after all this he says something about having "another person blackmailing him" him now. I wanted a renegade option that DIDN'T kill Giana, so now she's pissed at me and I'll see her in ME2 for my renegade run.[/list]
 

Talked more to the guys standing around. Got a guy saying he'd "ask me for a cup of coffee" but would get in trouble. Found out Turians like doughnuts! Had a good chat with the female officer who trys to confiscate your weapons when you first enter. She'll notice if you are doing Oplod's mission and will suggest not doing anything shady or you'll be in trouble.[/list]
 

Bring Liara when you first enter Noveria and talk to Giana, you'll get special dialogue with her, you can say you trust her or tell her to go back to the ship when they realize Benezia's here.[/list]
 

On peak 15, I NEVER went to the hot labs first. I always thought you had two options, do the "paragon" route by getting a pass or the "renegade" route by hacking the door and have everyone shoot you. Now, I thought they all shot at me because I was opening sealed off doors where rachni could come in, so it made sense to me why they reacted like this. THEN I do the hot labs first, come back to where the captain was, he isn't there. I then walk into the room where the elcor merchant was and the captain is waiting for me with guards. "We got orders from Benezia"... wait, ALL OF YOU were working for her the whole time?????! And here I thought I would be a complete ass to hack the door and gun you down earlier because you guys were all innocent apart from that asari! It was great because I got to gun them all down with a REASON this time.[/list]

Modifié par Hyrule_Gal, 05 juin 2010 - 11:25 .

[Kim Shepard]

I read about the Hot Labs on the Wiki. Technically, it would have made more sense for my MaleShep to do that part first... but I don't want to replay Noveria. I also read something about meeting up with the krogan merc from the smuggling mission near the Normandy, but I guess I missed my chance on that one too.

And I just saw the turian donut guy for the first time this playthrough after hearing about it on this thread. It was adorable.

I didn't know about that option to intimidate Anoleis and mention prison showers to Lorik. xD Poor Lorik! What was his reaction to that?

[Nilfalasiel]

Kim Shepard wrote...

I was just playing Mass Effect, and... just a word of advice foranyone who's trying to avoid Liara's romance - don't choose the "Let's talk" option. Ever. >_>; After you get the "I'm not interested" conversation, just quit while you're ahead. My MaleShep just went to talk to her after her mother's death, and it was a really bad idea to talk with her more, apparently. I just knew I'd have to reload when he said, "I enjoy talking with you, Liara, no matter the subject." She starts talking about all of the asari rumors again (which I already heard from the Investigate option for asari culture), and then she and Shepard start talking like they're a couple, are they ready or should they wait, and there was no "we're not in a romance" option. This is how the "rumors" get started, Liara. He just wanted to see if you were alright after your mother's death! I guess you're alright then...

Hmm...That's odd. Which convo options did you pick exactly? Because when I pick "I like talking to you, Liara, no matter what the topic" (after rejecting her), she responds "then let's talk about you; how are you doing?" And then she says something about how I don't have to carry the weight of the whole galaxy on my shoulders. That's the non-romance dialogue.

@ Zalmida: Finished pic is great! And the hotdog one is cute ^^

@ Pacifien: I always go Therum - Feros - Noveria. Makes the most sense to me to try to ask Benezia's daughter about her mother's motives first, get a Prothean expert on board to help with the vision, then get down to business. As for where Saren gets the info about Ilos: same place where Shep gets it, actually. He goes to Feros to retrieve the Cipher from the Thorian, then he has Benezia find the Mu relay. Then he uses the beacon on Virmire to fill in the blanks of his Eden Prime vision. Just like Shep does. Otherwise, he wouldn't have a clue about which system to go to, since the Mu relay connects to multiple systems. The only thing is that Shep knows nothing about Ilos, and therefore needs Liara to tell her/him. Saren probably already recognized it from his vision and thus was able to get a headstart.

So no, Saren can't go to Ilos immediately after Noveria, since his vision is incomplete at that point.

@ Hyrule_Gal:  Now *that's* unexpected. So the guards were working for Benezia then? That kinda doesn't seem to make sense, when you compare it to how the mission normally plays out...Since they're actually trying to protect themselves from the Rachni. And the asari who attacks you actually killed that guard at the door. She wouldn't have needed to do that if he'd been on her side. Weird.

Modifié par Nilfalasiel, 05 juin 2010 - 09:53 .

[Christmas Ape]

Nilfalasiel wrote...

Now *that's* unexpected. So the guards were working for Benezia then? That kinda doesn't seem to make sense, when you compare it to how the mission normally plays out...Since they're actually trying to protect themselves from the Rachni. And the asari who attacks you actually killed that guard at the door. She wouldn't have needed to do that if he'd been on her side. Weird.

They always were - she's there on Saren's behalf in his capacity as major shareholder of Binary Helix. When you arrive and start with the secure lab/barracks area, the guards are on orders to keep the rachni at bay while Benezia extracts the location of the Mu Relay. 's why Ventralis tells you she's still in the Hot Labs and all access to the secure lab is locked down - so you'll leave them alone long enough for her to finish, and maybe hopefully die. If you purge the Hot Labs while she's still in there, those orders become "keep the Spectre out until I'm finished".

The other asari is a sleeper agent that I'm fairly sure even Ventralis isn't aware of - she's been in place for weeks, apparently.

[Twilight_Princess]

Kim Shepard wrote...


I didn't know about that option to intimidate Anoleis and mention prison showers to Lorik. xD Poor Lorik! What was his reaction to that?

"all you say is true" Haha!

Modifié par Hyrule_Gal, 05 juin 2010 - 02:16 .

[Pacifien]

Nilfalasiel wrote...
@ Pacifien: I always go Therum - Feros - Noveria. Makes the most sense to me to try to ask Benezia's daughter about her mother's motives first, get a Prothean expert on board to help with the vision, then get down to business. As for where Saren gets the info about Ilos: same place where Shep gets it, actually. He goes to Feros to retrieve the Cipher from the Thorian, then he has Benezia find the Mu relay. Then he uses the beacon on Virmire to fill in the blanks of his Eden Prime vision. Just like Shep does. Otherwise, he wouldn't have a clue about which system to go to, since the Mu relay connects to multiple systems. The only thing is that Shep knows nothing about Ilos, and therefore needs Liara to tell her/him. Saren probably already recognized it from his vision and thus was able to get a headstart.

I think, since Saren's secret base is on Virmire, he likely used the Virmire beacon first and then the Eden Prime beacon second to fill in the blanks. Who knows how long he's been waiting for a second beacon to be found so he could fill in the gaps of his first visions. Long enough to develop a clone army of krogans, apparently.

As for how Saren finds out about Ilos, the information is all in the beacons, but he'd have to have extensive knowledge about the Protheans to learn about Ilos. Perhaps after ruminating on the visions and using the cipher, he could have pieced together the information about Ilos himself. Shepard, however, needs an expert in the Protheans to speed the process along as he doesn't have time to ruminate on the vision. But however Saren figured out about Ilos, he certainly needed to know about it first before he sent Benezia after the information for the Mu Relay because there's no point gathering intel on a lost relay unless you knew you needed to use it.

Which is somewhat interesting in relation to the Rachni Queen. Her purpose was simply to breed a Rachni army for Saren, but turns out he found another use for her. I wonder if Benezia's tearing through the Rachni Queen's mind is what triggered the accident in the Hot Labs. The rachni are said to be rather sensitive to biotics. Add in crazy rachni, and the awareness of strong biotics in the area might have finally pushed them over the edge.

[Andaius20]

[Pacifien]

Does Garrus mention the headshot after Thane makes an appearance? Because that would be funny considering Thane doesn't actually do any headshots as far as I can tell.

More like "A group slaughter without a single headshot. I am disappoint."

ETA: Oh wait, now I remember. He says that when you talk to the salarians. In which case... nevermind. Other than he probably was disappointed the final confrontation with Nassana did not contain any headshots.

Modifié par Pacifien, 05 juin 2010 - 03:48 .

[Andaius20]

nope atleast I don't remember.



Tali only said this.

[Andaius20]

*buys Wine for everyone as the Tali thread has hit 7K.*

[Cerrydd]

Buggirl70 wrote...

Ok guys I've been lurking and pottering around on the computer - here's my Garrus contribution for a rainy Saturday.... Inspired by Rene Magritte, Belgian surrealist painter who I like a lot!

lol, awesome! We are such an artsy bunch!

edit:

Pacifien wrote...

ETA:
Oh wait, now I remember. He says that when you talk to the salarians.
In which case... nevermind. Other than he probably was disappointed the
final confrontation with Nassana did not contain any headshots.

Even without headshots, Garrus is still impressed by Thane's mad skillz!

Modifié par Cerrydd, 05 juin 2010 - 04:24 .

[Twilight_Princess]

This might be a bit off topic but, I'm doing a renegade run as I said and I chose Earthborn/ sole survivor. I plan to do all the renegade things in me1 and me2 but this presents a problem. Why would a sole survivor HELP cerberus? I was half way through ME1 and went "...oh yeah..doesn't make sense there" can anyone think of a good reason why a sole survivor would help TIM? I really don't want to start over LOL

[Collider]

Hyrule_Gal wrote...

This might be a bit off topic but, I'm doing a renegade run as I said and I chose Earthborn/ sole survivor. I plan to do all the renegade things in me1 and me2 but this presents a problem. Why would a sole survivor HELP cerberus? I was half way through ME1 and went "...oh yeah..doesn't make sense there" can anyone think of a good reason why a sole survivor would help TIM? I really don't want to start over LOL

a) Because Shepard is crazy
Shepard doesn't necessarily need to know it was Cerberus behind the Thresher Maw attack
c) Shepard can have the ends to the means mentality
d) Shepard can be human supremacist
e) Because Shepard is crazy

[Twilight_Princess]

Darth Cheesecake wrote...

Hyrule_Gal wrote...

This might be a bit off topic but, I'm doing a renegade run as I said and I chose Earthborn/ sole survivor. I plan to do all the renegade things in me1 and me2 but this presents a problem. Why would a sole survivor HELP cerberus? I was half way through ME1 and went "...oh yeah..doesn't make sense there" can anyone think of a good reason why a sole survivor would help TIM? I really don't want to start over LOL

Yeah Renegade Shep is pragmatic enough to recognize the need to work together.
Even if it's with the organization that nearly killed him.
There you go.

HOORAY! I'm hoping ME3 will include a really renegade ending where Shepard overthrows TIM and rules the universe with an iron fist. If so that would be awesome for the sole survivor "Yeah I was kidding with that co-operation crap MAUHAHAHAHHAA!!!". Even though I plan to side with cerberus , it doesn't mean I can't be very snarky about it