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Garrus Love and Adoration v.2


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Sialater wrote...

Exile Isan wrote...

Cerrydd wrote...
She gave your body to Cerberus and now has trouble with the SB. Shouldn't TIM know that?

D'oh! I forgot about that. Posted Image



So... he's either uninformed or he's lying?


I think he's lying.

Same thing with Archangel/Garrus. He says he has no idea where Garrus is, and gives you the Archangel dossier. Now I can't remember exactly what the dossier says, but nobody has any idea who Archangel is, where he's from, what he did before coming to Omega. Getting all major merc gangs against you is pretty impressive, but is it enough to qualify for being a team member for Shepard against the Reapers? My guess is TIM knew about Garrus being Archangel. Being a badass vigilante killing merc on Omega is cool, but (in my opinion) not enough to be selected for the squad. Being a badass vigilante AND helping Shepard kill Sovereign is, that's why Garrus was selected for the squad by TIM.

Why he's lying about is... well, TIM just likes to be a pain in the ass.

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charles shepherd wrote...

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Hey guys, I was on /v/ last night and somebody said that there was a female turian dancer at the VIP section of the Afterlife when you're doing Samara's loyalty mission. Can anybody with a PC version that has a save file near that mission check and see if it's true? They say that she mimics the asari dancers and looks slightly different.


Lol. No there was no Turian dancer. There was a Turian dancing with asari and human chicks. But you could actually call him dancer, but I don't know why female?

Yeah, I kinda doubted it when I heard it. There was a guy claiming to be a Bioware writer on /v/ last night (seemed pretty legit) and he said that the lack of female turians is more of an issue with the modeling department than with the writing department, and that they don't see the need to create female turians despite how the writers would enjoy having them. Then somebody claimed what I just asked, and the writer said that he wasn't sure if there really was a female turian there, and if there was one he said that the modeling department wouldve trolled everybody else with that.


I am uploading image :)

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Hell! Maybe it is a female. I mean who knows? XD And he/she is dancing like Shep, which means... really bad

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I always assumed the Illusive Man knew who Archangel was. xD I read about all the spoilers before I played the game, so at least I knew. It's a good thing Aria made it sound like Archangel didn't have much time left so my Shepard could have an in-game reason for not recruiting Mordin first. In future playthroughs, some of them will switch up the recruitment order though. One Shepard listens to the Illusive Man no matter what, one would jump at the chance to recruit another krogan, and another would definitely choose to break a criminal out of prison first.

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If we go to Palavern in ME3 there better be female Turians. I feel like they didn't get enough help for the character modeling department in ME2. I mean no vacuum worthy gear except for the Krogan, Shepard and Garrus. All they did was stick Garrus's head on top of a random NPC turian casual body for his romance scene. I would have liked his hands to at least have matched his face in skin tone. Also I felt like they could have made alot more armor components for Shepard. It feels like their entire art department was working on the scenery, which was gorgeous. I still think ME2 was astounding but you see where things were lagging behind.



Anyway heres hoping we see some of that stuff in ME3.

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For my fanfic:



Do you think Garrus' squad would have biotics? I've got an idea for a really cool Turian biotic, but if it doesn't fit I'll have him as an adversary.

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FrancisKitt wrote...

For my fanfic:

Do you think Garrus' squad would have biotics? I've got an idea for a really cool Turian biotic, but if it doesn't fit I'll have him as an adversary.



If there was a biotic, I'm pretty sure Garrus would have mentioned one.

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FrancisKitt wrote...

For my fanfic:

Do you think Garrus' squad would have biotics? I've got an idea for a really cool Turian biotic, but if it doesn't fit I'll have him as an adversary.


I'm sure someone was a biotic, knowing Garrus he was smart and probably had someone that was experienced in each field like Shepard did in the first (and 2nd) game. (And Turians do seem to hahve biotics, they're just not many of them and they're kinda out of place in Turian society.)

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Castanea wrote...

FrancisKitt wrote...

For my fanfic:

Do you think Garrus' squad would have biotics? I've got an idea for a really cool Turian biotic, but if it doesn't fit I'll have him as an adversary.


I'm sure someone was a biotic, knowing Garrus he was smart and probably had someone that was experienced in each field like Shepard did in the first (and 2nd) game. (And Turians do seem to hahve biotics, they're just not many of them and they're kinda out of place in Turian society.)



This makes him not mentioning you being a biotic that much odder, IMO

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 Yeah, I kinda doubted it when I heard it. There was a guy claiming to be a Bioware writer on /v/ last night


Forgive my ignorance, but what's /v/ ?

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The one thing I hate about Garrus (be it a small complaint) is that he's emotionally constipated. Every time you ask him if everything is alright he says things like "I'm, fine", "Can it wait", I, don't ant to talk about it right now" and the like. I really wish he would just come out and say what's bothering him, was it his father's expectations, was it all the stress of C-Sec or was it the fact that he let two criminals escape for long periods of time (Saleon, Sidonis)? I hope that in ME3 Garrus finally just lets it all out, it's sort of hard to sit there and watch him bottle it up.


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Reptilian Rob wrote...

The one thing I hate about Garrus (be it a small complaint) is that he's emotionally constipated. Every time you ask him if everything is alright he says things like "I'm, fine", "Can it wait", I, don't ant to talk about it right now" and the like. I really wish he would just come out and say what's bothering him, was it his father's expectations, was it all the stress of C-Sec or was it the fact that he let two criminals escape for long periods of time (Saleon, Sidonis)? I hope that in ME3 Garrus finally just lets it all out, it's sort of hard to sit there and watch him bottle it up.


I come from a law enforcement and military family; I married a military man. It's pretty normal for real people in those career paths to do that.  I find Garrus's responses to inquiries about his emotional state perfectly in keeping with the man he came to be, though a cheerier version of the replies he gives would be "Ah, I got nothing to complain about - and even if I did, who'd wanna hear it?" followed by a diversion of topic.

But Garrus doesn't feel a need to play that social game, so he doesn't.

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Sialater wrote...

Castanea wrote...

FrancisKitt wrote...

For my fanfic:

Do you think Garrus' squad would have biotics? I've got an idea for a really cool Turian biotic, but if it doesn't fit I'll have him as an adversary.


I'm sure someone was a biotic, knowing Garrus he was smart and probably had someone that was experienced in each field like Shepard did in the first (and 2nd) game. (And Turians do seem to hahve biotics, they're just not many of them and they're kinda out of place in Turian society.)



This makes him not mentioning you being a biotic that much odder, IMO


I thought that too, and the fact you never see any, but I'm really just quoting the wiki up there ^

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I thought that too, and the fact you never see any, but I'm really just quoting the wiki up there ^


Besides Saren, anyway, yeah.

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Ms Cherissa wrote...

charles shepherd wrote...
 Yeah, I kinda doubted it when I heard it. There was a guy claiming to be a Bioware writer on /v/ last night


Forgive my ignorance, but what's /v/ ?


4chan subforum for games. Personally I am not going there (4chan) very often. Pretty disturbing stuff can be found.:?

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Ms Cherissa wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...

The one thing I hate about Garrus (be it a small complaint) is that he's emotionally constipated. Every time you ask him if everything is alright he says things like "I'm, fine", "Can it wait", I, don't ant to talk about it right now" and the like. I really wish he would just come out and say what's bothering him, was it his father's expectations, was it all the stress of C-Sec or was it the fact that he let two criminals escape for long periods of time (Saleon, Sidonis)? I hope that in ME3 Garrus finally just lets it all out, it's sort of hard to sit there and watch him bottle it up.


I come from a law enforcement and military family; I married a military man. It's pretty normal for real people in those career paths to do that.  I find Garrus's responses to inquiries about his emotional state perfectly in keeping with the man he came to be, though a cheerier version of the replies he gives would be "Ah, I got nothing to complain about - and even if I did, who'd wanna hear it?" followed by a diversion of topic.

But Garrus doesn't feel a need to play that social game, so he doesn't.

Yeah, I get that part. Both sides of my family have a rich military background. My uncle was in Vietnam, and he witnessed a napalm drop on a civilian village, he told me that there was nothing to describe the image of children running thirty feet, then burning to death and there was nothing he could do. He doesn't talk about it at at all hardly, he told me he'd rather not re-live it, but forget it. I myself was in the ROTC Airforce for awhile before I found that it wasn't for me. I suppose Garrus feels the same way my uncle does, but I know it doesn't help to hold it all in, it's better to share your emotions and feelings with someone you trust, rather than keep them in and deteriorate. 

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Pannamaslo wrote...

Ms Cherissa wrote...

charles shepherd wrote...
 Yeah, I kinda doubted it when I heard it. There was a guy claiming to be a Bioware writer on /v/ last night


Forgive my ignorance, but what's /v/ ?


4chan subforum for games. Personally I am not going there (4chan) very often. Pretty disturbing stuff can be found.:?


Uhuh. I regret the one hour I once spent on /b/. To quote Miranda: what a pisshole.

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Reptilian Rob wrote...
Yeah, I get that part. Both sides of my family have a rich military background. My uncle was in Vietnam, and he witnessed a napalm drop on a civilian village, he told me that there was nothing to describe the image of children running thirty feet, then burning to death and there was nothing he could do. He doesn't talk about it at at all hardly, he told me he'd rather not re-live it, but forget it. I myself was in the ROTC Airforce for awhile before I found that it wasn't for me. I suppose Garrus feels the same way my uncle does, but I know it doesn't help to hold it all in, it's better to share your emotions and feelings with someone you trust, rather than keep them in and deteriorate. 


Oddly - and not meaning to hijack the thread here - longer term studies indicate that sharing is NOT caring, and that the people who just keep it to themselves are often more functional than those who feel a strong need to 'let it all out'. Apparently we're a very individualist species IRL, not just in the ME 'verse, and there are many perfectly healthy ways of coping.

Soooooo to get back on topic, the 'female' turian dancer? Hm. Smoother face, and in that lighting 'sweeter' features. I know we've seen two distinctly different fringe lengths in hatless turians but my assumption was that had was no different than the differences in hair color or face shapes humans have.

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Ms Cherissa wrote...

Castanea wrote...

I thought that too, and the fact you never see any, but I'm really just quoting the wiki up there ^


Besides Saren, anyway, yeah.


How sad, I've forgotten him already. :(

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Ms Cherissa wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...
Yeah, I get that part. Both sides of my family have a rich military background. My uncle was in Vietnam, and he witnessed a napalm drop on a civilian village, he told me that there was nothing to describe the image of children running thirty feet, then burning to death and there was nothing he could do. He doesn't talk about it at at all hardly, he told me he'd rather not re-live it, but forget it. I myself was in the ROTC Airforce for awhile before I found that it wasn't for me. I suppose Garrus feels the same way my uncle does, but I know it doesn't help to hold it all in, it's better to share your emotions and feelings with someone you trust, rather than keep them in and deteriorate. 


Oddly - and not meaning to hijack the thread here - longer term studies indicate that sharing is NOT caring, and that the people who just keep it to themselves are often more functional than those who feel a strong need to 'let it all out'. Apparently we're a very individualist species IRL, not just in the ME 'verse, and there are many perfectly healthy ways of coping.

Soooooo to get back on topic, the 'female' turian dancer? Hm. Smoother face, and in that lighting 'sweeter' features. I know we've seen two distinctly different fringe lengths in hatless turians but my assumption was that had was no different than the differences in hair color or face shapes humans have.


From my clinical practice I must say that it all depends on other things like temperament, social enviroment, neurochemical makeup etc. Many times keeping emotions to yourself leads to mood disorders and somatic disorders (more often the case), especially if a person tends to ruminate a lot. This is not so simple like not sharing good, but sharing bad.

This face is bugged. The cap/hat w/e has holes and face is badly rendered IMO. As far as how Turian females are different from males - hell if I know. Could be anything. Bah! who needs female turians, you want competition? XD

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Pannamaslo wrote...

Ms Cherissa wrote...

Reptilian Rob wrote...
Yeah, I get that part. Both sides of my family have a rich military background. My uncle was in Vietnam, and he witnessed a napalm drop on a civilian village, he told me that there was nothing to describe the image of children running thirty feet, then burning to death and there was nothing he could do. He doesn't talk about it at at all hardly, he told me he'd rather not re-live it, but forget it. I myself was in the ROTC Airforce for awhile before I found that it wasn't for me. I suppose Garrus feels the same way my uncle does, but I know it doesn't help to hold it all in, it's better to share your emotions and feelings with someone you trust, rather than keep them in and deteriorate. 


Oddly - and not meaning to hijack the thread here - longer term studies indicate that sharing is NOT caring, and that the people who just keep it to themselves are often more functional than those who feel a strong need to 'let it all out'. Apparently we're a very individualist species IRL, not just in the ME 'verse, and there are many perfectly healthy ways of coping.

Soooooo to get back on topic, the 'female' turian dancer? Hm. Smoother face, and in that lighting 'sweeter' features. I know we've seen two distinctly different fringe lengths in hatless turians but my assumption was that had was no different than the differences in hair color or face shapes humans have.


From my clinical experience I must say that it all depends on other things like temperament, social enviroment, neurochemical makeup etc. Many times keeping emotions to yourself leads to mood disorders and somatic disorders (more often the case), especially if a person tends to ruminate a lot. This is not so simple like not sharing good, but sharing bad.

This face is bugged. The cap/hat w/e has holes and face is badly rendered IMO. As far as how Turian females are different from males - hell if I know. Could be anything.

In the world of psychology, nothing is black and white, there are so many chemical imbalances that the brain can introduce and none of them can be predicted. I have a bad feeling that Garrus is going to go ape **** in ME3 and do something that will harm him in the long term. Depending if you let him kill Sidonis or not, maybe if you let him live Garrus will calm down.

As for Turian females, I think they are pretty much the same looking as the males. Perhaps with a different voice tone.

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Wouldn't that be the result of you befriending him/romancing him? He finally opens up?

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Reptilian Rob wrote...
As for Turian females, I think they are pretty much the same looking as the males. Perhaps with a different voice tone.


Dunno, I mean, I know that's what I'm leaning towards at this point, but... turians find asari attractive (and they 'look just like turians!') so I'm guessing turians are sexually dimorphic on some level.

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Sialater wrote...

Wouldn't that be the result of you befriending him/romancing him? He finally opens up?

I play as a male Shepard though, so he never opened up to me, haha. I was more interested in getting into Miranda's pants.

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Reptilian Rob wrote...

Sialater wrote...

Wouldn't that be the result of you befriending him/romancing him? He finally opens up?


I play as a male Shepard though, so he never opened up to me, haha.



He's not exactly Mr. Conversation with femShep either.  Unless there was a lot of pillow talk after.

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Wouldn't that be the result of you befriending him/romancing him? He finally opens up?


He only really opens up to you at the very end if you romance him. Players who didn't romance him don't really get that opportunity.

Which is kind of a shame. I do believe that if you romance a character then you should see a side of that character that no one else will, but Garrus could have opened up a little more to everyone else instead of calibrating all the time.