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[Nilfalasiel]

Collider wrote...

Shepard doesn't necessarily need to know it was Cerberus behind the Thresher Maw attack

If you did the Toombs sidequest, then Shep definitely knows Cerberus was behing the Thresher Maw attack.

However, you also need to remember that Shep doesn't really have a choice about working with Cerberus. They brought her/him back to life with massive strings attached, so even if she/he doesn't trust them, well, there's a job to be done and there's no other way to do it. Why would a Shep with ANY background voluntarily help Cerberus after seeing what they did in ME1, really?

Love the Magritte/Garrus btw. I remember having a whole string of lessons about Magritte in art class back in school.

[Collider]

Darth Cheesecake wrote...

It is only logical to assume that ME3 will have a Paragon ending (where humanity and it's allies triumph over the Reapers restoring peace and justice to the galaxy) and a Renegade ending (where humanity and who ever they cow into helping them defeat the Reapers. Humanity then forms the first Galatic Human Empire!)

Hopefully players won't be forced into one or the other based upon their alignment.

[Cerrydd]

As long as ME3's end has Garrus alive 'n kickin' it's all good.

[Pacifien]

I like to think Sole Survivor Shepard prefers to serve his revenge cold, sensing an opportunity to royally screw over Cerberus, so he played nice until the Illusive Man started to plead for cooperation in keeping the Collector Base. Then Shepard said "Really? Sucks to be you. Remember Akuze!" and then he blew up the base.

[Mr.BlazenGlazen]

Cerrydd wrote...

As long as ME3's end has Garrus alive 'n kickin' it's all good.

[Collider]

Cerrydd wrote...

As long as ME3's end has Garrus alive 'n kickin' it's all good.

What if Shepard is dead?

[Collider]

http://social.bioware.com/group/2135/

[Cerrydd]

Collider wrote...

Cerrydd wrote...

As long as ME3's end has Garrus alive 'n kickin' it's all good.

What if Shepard is dead?

I prefer Shepard surviving, but if he/she has to die, I want to make that choice myself, because...

***DA:O SPOILERS! DO NOT READ IF YOU DON'T WANT TO KNOW***



...I was really pissed when Alistair decided it was his job to die, slaying the Archdemon. I didn't do Morrigan's ritual because it sucked, so I decided to sacrifice myself and let Alistair live so he could be a king etc. But then, only because I romanced him, I couldn't talk him out of sacrificing himself. I really didn't like this ending being forced on me, without having the option to sacrifice myself.



***SPOILERS END***

I don't know what direction BW will take regarding ME3's end, but I really hope we have influence on who dies and who lives. If I have to choose between Garrus dies/Shepard dies, I'd probably make sure Garrus lives.

But I still prefer them both to live.

[janeym27]

I'm here! After ages of... not.. being ...here.



I've been all DA:O. No Garrus there, so my soul is suffering. lol



Anyone up for some Garrus happy hour this evening? I've a powerful urge to do his LM again.

[Pacifien]

Darth Cheesecake wrote...
Hello......Hellooooooooo.
Why is everyone gone?

Give me some inspiration for discussing Garrus, I'll be here.

[Twilight_Princess]

very well

I love how formal Garrus was In ME1. He used to call Shep "ma'am" and "commander" its only till the second game he fianlly calls her Shepard in conversation.

Modifié par Hyrule_Gal, 05 juin 2010 - 06:43 .

[Sialater]

Pacifien wrote...

I like to think Sole Survivor Shepard prefers to serve his revenge cold, sensing an opportunity to royally screw over Cerberus, so he played nice until the Illusive Man started to plead for cooperation in keeping the Collector Base. Then Shepard said "Really? Sucks to be you. Remember Akuze!" and then he blew up the base.

QFT.

Meghan's big "screw you, Timmy," moment.  Garrus saying what he says may start their very first fight as a couple.

[Kim Shepard]

Nilfalasiel wrote...

Kim Shepard wrote...

I was just playing Mass Effect, and... just a word of advice foranyone who's trying to avoid Liara's romance - don't choose the "Let's talk" option. Ever. >_>; After you get the "I'm not interested" conversation, just quit while you're ahead. My MaleShep just went to talk to her after her mother's death, and it was a really bad idea to talk with her more, apparently. I just knew I'd have to reload when he said, "I enjoy talking with you, Liara, no matter the subject." She starts talking about all of the asari rumors again (which I already heard from the Investigate option for asari culture), and then she and Shepard start talking like they're a couple, are they ready or should they wait, and there was no "we're not in a romance" option. This is how the "rumors" get started, Liara. He just wanted to see if you were alright after your mother's death! I guess you're alright then...

Hmm...That's odd. Which convo options did you pick exactly? Because when I pick "I like talking to you, Liara, no matter what the topic" (after rejecting her), she responds "then let's talk about you; how are you doing?" And then she says something about how I don't have to carry the weight of the whole galaxy on my shoulders. That's the non-romance dialogue.

In my last conversation with Liara, I chose the romance-ending "I'm not interested in you" option. Not even the neutral "I just want to be friends", it was the Renegade option. Then I talked to her again after Noveria and got the conversation about her mother, and again I chose the Renegade or neutral options (not the Paragon "the best of her lives on in you"). After that, I just chose the "Let's talk" option and got a romance conversation. Why does she even like my MaleShep anyway? xD He makes it pretty obvious when he doesn't like people...

@ Hyrule_Gal: I have a Sole Survivor planned out who will stay with Cerberus. He just feels like, at this point, the only way to defeat the Reapers is to work with them. He'll even give them the Collector base at the end, and what Garrus says would be very comforting. He also tries to believe that the team behind what happened at Akuze went rogue... you know, whatever he has to tell himself to feel better about working with Cerberus. But the anger and frustration from working with them is great for things like making him get drunk at Dark Star and pushing a merc out a window.

My current Sole Survivor is going to blow up the base at the end though, so he's not the one I'm talking about. He's the crazy one who kills off Miranda and the crew and blows up the base. Then he'll head out for a drink thinking, "TIM's going to be after me now. I have no allies against the Reapers. What have I done?" xD

Also, about the end of ME3... I really hope they don't have a "choose between Shepard and his/her romance interest" decision. Then I would just get a lot of sad Shepards because they'd all choose to save themselves. Well, EvilShep wouldn't be sad. And what would happen with the Shepards who don't have romance in either game, random squadmate? I would just reload until it's a squadmate they don't care about as much.

[janeym27]

Do you guys think that Shepard is going to mention any of the team who didn't survive the SM in ME3? Not that any of us lost Garrus, but if Shep did, I'd hope the have some dialogue about it.



Also, I could live with a 'Garrus dead' ending. As long as a, it was an optional ending, not a forced on me ending, and b, he gets a death worthy of his awesome. None of this dragged into the ether by swarms, or impaled through the chest business. D:

[Twilight_Princess]

Kim Shepard wrote...

@ Hyrule_Gal: I have a Sole Survivor planned out who will stay with Cerberus. He just feels like, at this point, the only way to defeat the Reapers is to work with them. He'll even give them the Collector base at the end, and what Garrus says would be very comforting. He also tries to believe that the team behind what happened at Akuze went rogue... you know, whatever he has to tell himself to feel better about working with Cerberus. But the anger and frustration from working with them is great for things like making him get drunk at Dark Star and pushing a merc out a window.

My current Sole Survivor is going to blow up the base at the end though, so he's not the one I'm talking about. He's the crazy one who kills off Miranda and the crew and blows up the base. Then he'll head out for a drink thinking, "TIM's going to be after me now. I have no allies against the Reapers. What have I done?" xD

Also, about the end of ME3... I really hope they don't have a "choose between Shepard and his/her romance interest" decision. Then I would just get a lot of sad Shepards because they'd all choose to save themselves. Well, EvilShep wouldn't be sad. And what would happen with the Shepards who don't have romance in either game, random squadmate? I would just reload until it's a squadmate they don't care about as much.

I'm really hoping for an ultimate renegade betrayal for TIM. So you give him the base but seize control right at the end of ME3. "Actually I think I want you dead TIM *gunshot*  and I want your job ...MUHAHAHAAHA!" My sole survivor will wait for the perfect moment to do so, destroying the base is a short term revenge , the reapers are still out there. So I'll let tim create a perfect weapon only to use it myself and get rid of him. That's only if they allow that ME3.

[Lemonwizard]

I really spent the whole game pissed off that you were not allowed to hang up on TIM like they let you hang up on the council in ME1.

[Kim Shepard]

Yeah, I was just talking about the ME2 possibilities. xD I don't know what will come in ME3, so... the poor paranoid Sole Survivor that I'm playing now will have to wait and see what his options are. I wonder if there will be an option to choose between Cerberus and the Council/Alliance. This MaleShep might prefer to just stick with his team and any other allies he might have (krogan and rachni are the only ones I can think of right now for this Shepard).

I would be fine with something ME2 suicide mission style in ME3. As long as it is possibile to keep them alive, then it's perfect for creating the type of ending that fits for our Shepards.

I'm not sure if they'd get any dialogue about ME2 deaths in ME3, but that would be nice. I liked the conversations after Virmire. At least, if there are some suicide mission style parts in ME3, I hope they would at least mention any ME3 deaths.

[Kim Shepard]

Lemonwizard wrote...

I really spent the whole game pissed off that you were not allowed to hang up on TIM like they let you hang up on the council in ME1.

Isn't there an option somewhere to make Shepard say "I'm getting a lot of bull**** on the line" and hang up on TIM? I remember reading about it somewhere.

I would like an option in ME3 for Shepard to say "Dismissed, councillors." and hang up on them. xD

[Twilight_Princess]

Kim Shepard wrote...

Yeah, I was just talking about the ME2 possibilities. xD I don't know what will come in ME3, so... the poor paranoid Sole Survivor that I'm playing now will have to wait and see what his options are. I wonder if there will be an option to choose between Cerberus and the Council/Alliance. This MaleShep might prefer to just stick with his team and any other allies he might have (krogan and rachni are the only ones I can think of right now for this Shepard).

I would be fine with something ME2 suicide mission style in ME3. As long as it is possibile to keep them alive, then it's perfect for creating the type of ending that fits for our Shepards.

I'm not sure if they'd get any dialogue about ME2 deaths in ME3, but that would be nice. I liked the conversations after Virmire. At least, if there are some suicide mission style parts in ME3, I hope they would at least mention any ME3 deaths.

 
 
Do you have any theories on how they will handle ME2 character deaths in ME3? It might be unfair but maybe they should do a "suicide mission" at the beginning of the game, in order to start ME3 you will need a certain number of team mates alive in order to start the game properly. It could be a mission of some kind that has cut scenes scattered throughout. There could be one of a squaddie grabbing Shepards arm from falling for example, if you have just 2 surviving squaddies , the cut scene will change because that person won't be there to grab Shepard and he dies. It’ll be an epic fail for people who purposefully killed off their team as an accomplishment

[Kim Shepard]

I wonder about what would happen if they have something suicide mission style where Shepard needs experts (biotic, tech, team leader), and doesn't have enough squadmates with the right talents for those roles. They might have new squadmates available in ME3, but I would hope that if they do, those squadmates would also be available to people who didn't kill off their old squadmates. If Shepard had to choose a certain number between old and new to take along, I would be fine with that too.

As of now, I haven't planned any epic fail playthroughs, so I don't think my Shepards will have to worry about a few squadmates being killed off. If Miranda dies, Garrus is still around to fill the role of team leader.