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[ZennExile]

SurfaceBeneath wrote...

ZennExile wrote...
What kind of narrative is this again?

>Implying I would waste time seriously explaining something to a troll

 More pictures where thoughts fail you.  I see a pattern here.  No really tell me what kind of narrative this is.  All your inside information is useless until it's outside.

 smiley five

oh and by the way, picture tossing long winded arguing, and refusal to acknowledge legitimate questions = trollish.  Just sayin.  You come off like a troll in barby cloths tryin to "have a good time" with anyone who'll pay attention to you.  But this deserves its own topic.

Modifié par ZennExile, 19 février 2010 - 10:44 .

[Aaren J]

SurfaceBeneath wrote...

Ashkeldir wrote...
If they were really good writers, we wouldn't be filling this thread with page after page of complaints about how the story wasn't very well executed...  It isn't just the story, it's the presentation, and the lack of cohesion, and so much more...

You couldn't be more wrong. After KOTOR 2 was released, fans came in droves saying how terrible they thought the story was. They hated that none of the old characters they loved returned ('sides the droids), they hated that the storytelling was so ambigious, and they hated how it just "wasn't the first game".

Turns out, KOTOR 2 is today is highly regarded for its mature storytelling and alternative take on the Star Wars universe. The fact that these forums are so split down the middle on the issue pretty much shows that one side sees something the other doesn't. Also, these forums represent about 1% of the total ME2 playerbase's opinions on the game... the most annoyingly petulent and arrogant 1%. Never underestimate the ability of fans to crowd the forums shouting their discontent on a video game forums.

Opinions are opinions and the fancies of any crowd can shift at moment. You may not personally like the story, but as I've said before, never assume your "opinion" is in any way, shape, or form representitive of any larger "fact".

There's the rub. +1

[ZennExile]

SurfaceBeneath wrote...

Ashkeldir wrote...

Halfheart wrote...
Hmm, a difference in playstyles I'd assume. Played a soldier long range with my sniper and sent my henchmen in close. Adrenaline rush makes headshots no challenge and anything that moved from cover was dead or quickly dead.

Funny but I tried having my henchmen get up close, but they'd always get charged or overpowered/rushed - basically they'd get slaughtered while I tried hanging back and taking shots with my 12 shot sniper rifle (on insanity with an imported ME character) and then it was me against all the bad guys, and no place to hide.  Couldn't even finish the first collector mission because the husks charge, kill Jack and Grunt in no time, and then I'm stuck fighting everything, with no sniper rifle ammo, etc...

I suppose you might be talking about a play through with a higher level character..

I found insanity easy to keep my teammates alive, you just have to spend more time micromanaging them (as it should be). Keep them far back behind you so you can use their abilities with impunity. Usually if you tell them to take cover behind a position, they will stay there for a very long time despite what else you do.

And you exploit AI mechanics rather than attempting to play the cover shooter the way it was intended to be played....  Now you have no credit whatsoever.  Such a dissapointment.

[ZennExile]

SurfaceBeneath wrote...

Ashkeldir wrote...
Anyway, I guess we must be playing a different game.  I am willing to bet that I put more hours into ME than anyone else out there, so it isn't like I don't know how to play the game - even if some of the mechanics are different - the AI is pretty much just as dumb as it was back then.

I've honestly never played a game in which team AI was anything other than an oxymoron. The Dragon Age "tactics" system worked great, for that kind of game. But it's impossible to set up those kinds of triggers effectively in an actiony title such as this.

Like I said, keep them in the back. Behind a wall if necessary. They don't need LoS on targets to hit them with powers. I generally give orders once or twice in a fight and they usually live to the end.

Why do you insist on spouting all this perspective nonsense and then back it up with complete gibberish.  You know NOTHING about AI or even how the tactics system works in Dragon Age beyond what every other average gamer knows yet you throw out impossible like you have some advanced knowledge of how things work...

You are a hypocrit.  You are a liar.  And you are worthless because of this to any meaningful conversation.

 smiley five - for the dirty rotten lying douchebag what now has no credibility

[ZennExile]

CakesOnAPlane wrote...

Conrad would beat you up for saying that.

Actually I sent Conrad to the meat grinder after bouncing him off two cars.

[ZennExile]

Ashkeldir wrote...

ZennExile wrote...
was the stupid intentional too?  

Now that was just mean for no reason (or did I miss the reason? )  

ZennExile wrote...
Yes I believe the game had to have been written by interns otherwise it would have been a deep and complex story like every other Bioware game in the past.

*nod*

ZennExile wrote...
Yes polite people ****** me off because they are fake.

I have to disagree with you here (for what may be the first time in this thread).

I am both polite and genuine. I choose to be polite;  that doesn't make me 'fake'.

But hey, nobody's perfect, so you had no way of knowing.

Not to poke yer bubble here... well kinda.  But that is why being polite is fake.  It's a choice you make.  It's also counterproductive.  You don't have to be an ass to not be polite.  But any form of "posturing" be it politeness or not is inherently forced and therefor fake.

[Turkeysock]

Ashkeldir wrote...
Ok, so technically, it's just myself and a few others who agree (in this thread) - but you said it yourself that all of these complaints have been voiced hundreds of times before - so you were arguing (incorrectly so) that my post was inaccurate because of what I said, and how I said it, specifically (about us filling up pages), not because my point was invalid.

Buzt, wrong. I never said you were wrong, but I did say that I disagree with you. But the fact remains that you implied (yes, because of the way you worded it, you implied it rather you intentionally ment to or not) that this thread was full of posts about how ME2 basically failed.

Ashkeldir wrote...
I haven't read the hundreds of other comments about these problems. I don't usually waste my time on forums (unless I'm in a beta test and need to be there) because it is usually pointless, but I reached a boiling point yesterday because of the AI issues, and had had enough.  I was ready to fling my discs out the window...

I can't take the game back, I pre-ordered the collector's edition and have played it through once already.  That would just be hypocritical.

Seriously you expect the AI to be competent? I've never played a game where allied AI were competent... Heck, a 6 month old could do better than the allied AI. But of course if they made the allied AI competent, than we wouldn't need to do anything in the long run. Besides, they always get in the way of my shots, so it doesn't matter to me.

Ashkeldir wrote...
My point wasn't that I hate the game - I have played it through and will play it through again - my point was that the side stories aren't obviously necessary to the story.  Yes, the characters may come back in ME3, but until they do, much of this doesn't makes sense (read this thread topic again) as far as moving the main story forward.  If, in ME2, they've introduced a load of characters who will figure into the game in ME3 in epic proportions, then I will probably end up applauding ME2 for having done what it did (sort of...) but I will not applaud how they did it.

Lord of the Rings, a lot of the stuff that had nothing to do with the quest really didn't have much point in the story, even at the end. It just gave us background information about the world around Frodo and the others. That is precisely what is going on in ME2. In ME1, we got the gist of what Council Space was like, now in ME2, all the side quests are giving us a feel for what the Terminus System is like. Does it have anything really to do with the overall plot of the game? Of course not, but it does fill us in on a lot of information that we would otherwise just ponder away on forums and fanfictions.

Ashkeldir wrote...
As far as you not focusing on more important issues, my comment was pointless.  You replied because you felt it necessary, just as I have been doing.

You said it well.

Ashkeldir wrote...
This thread is full of complaints, and there are enough people who have agreed that my comments on that matter were valid.  Remove the trolls and pointless banter and you will still be able to count a reasonable number of people who agree with the point behind the complaints, if not the sentiment or spirit in which those complaints were voiced.

I guess I should've mentioned that many of the people who reguritate the same stuff over and over again are usually the same people. Heck, Zenn has started a few previous threads basically dissing elements of ME2 already, and everything he said here is basically what he's said in those. We do see new folks who come on like yourself and talk about issues, but it's always the same stuff that even those who love the game don't really care much about... A lot of the issues that are brought up are just minor, like the thermal clips/ammo thing, or Conrad Verner glitch, etc. etc. None of the issues really affect game play overall, it's just minor issues that irk folks.

Ashkeldir wrote...
As far as being polite, it's who I am. I don't feel the need to slam others just because, though I suppose, since I am human, I sometimes do anyway - it isn't my primary objective.  I have a brain and I use it because I choose to. I have a habit of trying to help others understand my point of view.  It isn't that I expect people to change their opinions - I know I can't tell anyone how to feel, or what to feel - it is that I want people to understand why many of us are disappointed - just like I can't change your mind, you aren't going to change my mind.

Zenn can learn a lot from you... Honestly, I tried approching him politely, and instead since he couldn't argue back against anything I said, and he started taking popshots at my name. He still is taking popshots at my name in fact.

Ashkeldir wrote...
If I end up liking ME2 enough to play through more than two more times, it won't be because I love the story telling any more at that point, it will be because I've come to accept it as it is, and have decided to live with its flaws.  I don't know if I'll bother, but who knows - I can't predict the future (yet!)  

I don't expect anyone to change their minds, or understand my opinions. I merely hope that I am able to present my opinion in a way that helps others open their minds to see what may be a different view point, and thereby perhaps end up understanding.  (NB : I am saying I don't expect anyone to understand, I just hope that they will)

I enjoy  the game, and I can tell that aside all those little minor issues, you enjoy the game too. I know you are coming through and pointing out all the issues you don't like about it. But what is done is done. Voicing your opinion is fine, I have no issue with people voicing it. It's just horrible when you see someone like Zenn who voices and than draws a militant stance where he only acknowledges those who agree with him, and he makes up horrible reasons to ignore others opinions. The man only regurtiated what has already been said in other threads, I doubt he has an original thought in his head.

You on the other hand, I have hope for. You may get annoyed with the little issues, but try to remember, this is only one small piece of a picture. And just because that small piece looks bad right now, doesn't mean it will be when the final product comes out.

[Ashkeldir]

ZennExile wrote...
Not to poke yer bubble here... well kinda.  But that is why being polite is fake.  It's a choice you make.  It's also counterproductive.  You don't have to be an ass to not be polite.  But any form of "posturing" be it politeness or not is inherently forced and therefor fake.

By your explanation, being rude is also being fake...

polite – adjective  : showing good manners toward others, as in behavior, speech, etc.; courteous; civil:

Your last sentence more clearly defines your intent. It is the posturing (a form of which can be politeness) that you consider to be fake, not the act of being polite, in and of itself.

There is a difference between truly being polite for the sake of being polite, because one likes to be polite, and posturing via a polite attitude for the sake of appearance, to achieve a certain result or goal.  I am not a politician, I just play one on the forum.

I don't find being polite to be counterproductive, depending on what you are trying to 'produce'... I found your initial posting to be entertaining because I read it in the spirit with which you appear to have intended it to be read. That doesn't mean I have to respond in kind to be productive in moving any discussion of valid points along a particular path . Being polite may be counter-productive to your goal in this thread, which was to achieve some lulz, and well done btw, but it isn't counter-productive in and of itself.  Besides, I tend to catch more flies with honey...  (well, that's not true, literally - I catch them with my hand, but that's completely unrelated, and I just felt like saying it, because, well, nobody cares except me, and isn't that what posting on the internet is all about?)  

Modifié par Ashkeldir, 19 février 2010 - 11:30 .

[ZennExile]

Ok let's make this more clear for you Turkeydouche.

Arguementative children need not post here about how their ideas are the only ideas. If you have something to add the by all means otherwise you are a waste of forum space what should be banned purely for exceeding the useless cap.

No one cares what your OPINION is about their thoughts and ideas. NO ONE. So take the hint and come up with your own ideas or kick rocks. Yer wasting valuable forum realestate with stupidity and childish attempts to win an arguement that you aren't equipped to handle in the first place.

[Ashkeldir]

Turkeysock wrote...
I never said you were wrong

 But the fact remains that you implied (yes, because of the way you worded it, you implied it rather you intentionally ment to or not) that this thread was full of posts about how ME2 basically failed.

Telling me that you've burst my bubble isn't telling me I'm wrong?

I did not imply anything.  You inferred an unintended meaning.

Modifié par Ashkeldir, 19 février 2010 - 11:34 .

[Turkeysock]

ZennExile wrote...
Hey Turkydouche, this thread isn't about arguments.  It's about crap that doesn't "MAKE" sense without the player having to "MAKE" sense for it.

This is why I told you your name is Turkeysock and wrote you off like an argumentative child with no valuable input.

You don't even get a smiley five.  Turkeysock...

Ahhh, there's the immature lil boy!

Turkeydouche... Seriously?

Oh, hey Zenn, guess what, some of the things don't make sense, sure, but most of what you said DOES if you actually pay attention to the game.

And Zenn, you wrote me off because I disagreed with you, you haven't written off Ashkeldir who's just as argumentative as me because he is agreeing with you. So Zenn... when you are able to process logic and ideas and also able to understand others points of views, come back and try having a real argument.

Oh and Zenn, everything you said is pretty much an opinion, not fact. I think the way you've acted throughout this thread only proves

And by the way Zenn, on the issue of Miranda/Cheerleader thing... you are wrong. But of course only a childish boy such as yourself would think that way. Honestly, I wish parents would take more responsibility when it comes to their pre-teen children on the internet and video games:O.

[ZennExile]

Ashkeldir wrote...

ZennExile wrote...
Not to poke yer bubble here... well kinda.  But that is why being polite is fake.  It's a choice you make.  It's also counterproductive.  You don't have to be an ass to not be polite.  But any form of "posturing" be it politeness or not is inherently forced and therefor fake.

By your explanation, being rude is also being fake...

polite – adjective  : showing good manners toward others, as in behavior, speech, etc.; courteous; civil:

Your last sentence more clearly defines your intent. It is the posturing (a form of which can be politeness) that you consider to be fake, not the act of being polite, in and of itself.

There is a difference between truly being polite for the sake of being polite, because one likes to be polite, and posturing via a polite attitude for the sake of appearance, to achieve a certain result or goal.  I am not a politician, I just play one on the forum.

I don't find being polite to be counterproductive, depending on what you are trying to 'produce'... I found your initial posting to be entertaining because I read it in the spirit with which you appear to have intended it to be read. That doesn't mean I have to respond in kind to be productive in moving any discussion of valid points along a particular path . Being polite may be counter-productive to your goal in this thread, which was to achieve some lulz, and well done btw, but it isn't counter-productive in and of itself.  Besides, I tend to catch more flies with honey...  (well, that's not true, literally - I catch them with my hand, but that's completely unrelated, and I just felt like saying it, because, well, nobody cares except me, and isn't that what posting on the internet is all about?)  

These lulz are far fomr counter productive. 

And the reason being polite is fake is in the definition you quoted.   "showing".

This is a terribley difficult concept for most people to get because it's cultural training.  The reason it's counter productive is because everything thinks polite is something different.  The reason it's fake is because you have to create being polite.  Being polite can't be considered geniune unless under all possible circumstances (someone murders your children in front of you and laughs in your face about it) you act in a polite manner.

But it is extremely hard to see this if you spent your whole life being told "you need to be polite"  and "being polite is the best way".  Your brain can hard wire itself to process certain concepts and it will even go as far as lying to itself to avoid conflict with these hard wired circuts.  It's very mentally taxing to re-wire these established networks in our mind and it will defend itself.  This is part of "freeing your mind" that I'm sure you've seen referenced millions of times in various different ways.

 smiley five

[MTN Dew Fanatic]

ZennExile wrote...
12) Ammo?  Really?  Ok so in ME1 "we don't need ammo anymore and have fleshed out a complex and meaningful reason for this that ties together with Mass Effect".  In ME2 "We brought back ammo cause we know yall merricans like BIG GUNS WITH AMMO YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!".  Seriously dude who thought this was a good idea "**** YOU" another shining example of how turning something awesome into something stupid is always a single retarded idea away.   Fire this idiot immediately and put it on video we want proof.

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I doubt that's what they thought.

[ZennExile]

Turkeysock wrote...

ZennExile wrote...
Hey Turkydouche, this thread isn't about arguments.  It's about crap that doesn't "MAKE" sense without the player having to "MAKE" sense for it.

This is why I told you your name is Turkeysock and wrote you off like an argumentative child with no valuable input.

You don't even get a smiley five.  Turkeysock...

Ahhh, there's the immature lil boy!

Turkeydouche... Seriously?

Oh, hey Zenn, guess what, some of the things don't make sense, sure, but most of what you said DOES if you actually pay attention to the game.

And Zenn, you wrote me off because I disagreed with you, you haven't written off Ashkeldir who's just as argumentative as me because he is agreeing with you. So Zenn... when you are able to process logic and ideas and also able to understand others points of views, come back and try having a real argument.

Oh and Zenn, everything you said is pretty much an opinion, not fact. I think the way you've acted throughout this thread only proves

And by the way Zenn, on the issue of Miranda/Cheerleader thing... you are wrong. But of course only a childish boy such as yourself would think that way. Honestly, I wish parents would take more responsibility when it comes to their pre-teen children on the internet and video games:O.

Looks like you need a few more years of life experience before you understand the concept.  But just because other posters are compelled to be polite to you (hense counter productive) doesn't mean your arguing has any value.  You haven't expressed a single valuable idea in all your posting on this forum.  It's 100% argument based on some self righteous drive to be right and prove that other people's ideas aren't valid.

Yer the most pathetic kind of forum troll and it's sad that you can't even identify with you Id and aren't even aware of its existance.  But some people's minds just stop developing for some reason and there is really no explaination for it.

Enjoy your long and empty life filled with nothing but other peoples thoughts and ideas.  Maybe someday you'll free your mind and accidentally think up yer own but I certainly won't be holding my breath for you.

[Ashkeldir]

Turkeysock wrote...
I enjoy  the game, and I can tell that aside all those little minor issues, you enjoy the game too. I know you are coming through and pointing out all the issues you don't like about it. But what is done is done. Voicing your opinion is fine, I have no issue with people voicing it. It's just horrible when you see someone like Zenn who voices and than draws a militant stance where he only acknowledges those who agree with him, and he makes up horrible reasons to ignore others opinions. The man only regurtiated what has already been said in other threads, I doubt he has an original thought in his head.

I started programming computers in 1982. I have been on the internet since 1995. I stopped using IRC and chat and forums years ago, mainly because it is usually pointless, and they exist mostly to waste our time.  Zenn wasn't looking for anyone to agree with him, he was looking for someone to play ball with - he enjoys it.  The sooner you learn that he just wants to mess with you because he thinks it is fun, and that he's laughing at the whole thing, the better off you'll be.  He could choose to be polite if he wanted to. He chooses to be otherwise, because he thinks it is fun.  In the end, what do you care?  I don't need validation from some obscure poster who knows nothing about me, other than what I post in a forum.  I don't care whether people in forums like me - it's nice if people do, and I suppose I take care in my posts to avoid offending people because I have enough real enemies that I don't need to invent more, and I don't find it 'fun' to kick puppies or drown kittens - but I am who I choose to be, just like Zenn does.  If you ignore him, you spoil his fun, and no more lulz on his end (ok, maybe just a few more  

If this were real life, and in person, most people wouldn't say most of what they say here - I know, because those people usually get their teeth handed to them in a jar - but it isn't real life, even if the person sitting behind the keyboard is, some people just don't care.  And if you stop responding to him now, he's gonna be mad at me cuz I spoiled his fun, so, maybe you should stick around a while longer til he forgets I mentioned this?
 

[Kerberus88]

ZennExile wrote...

Ok let's make this more clear for you ZennExile.
Arguementative children need not post here about how their ideas are the only ideas. If you have something to add the by all means otherwise you are a waste of forum space what should be banned purely for exceeding the useless cap.
No one cares what your OPINION is about their thoughts and ideas. NO ONE. So take the hint and come up with your own ideas or kick rocks. Yer wasting valuable forum realestate with stupidity and childish attempts to win an arguement that you aren't equipped to handle in the first place.

^This.

I love when people describe themselves in an attempt to humiliate another person.

[Johannicus]

[quote]ZennExile wrote...

Updated: 2/18

Feel free to add your own or pathetically attempt to flame me.  I'm sure the lulz will be wonderful for everyone.

This is in no particular order though I might put em Phassis on sy Lables you won't agree with, and yes this is intentional, it in no way suggests an overall order of importance.

1) Council.  Human or Alien.  There is nothing.  Literally nothing.  Sorry come back when we're dead because we will never believe you no matter how many giant doomsday creatures you drop on our heads.  Oh and the intern who was supposed to write our part of the story is out back getting high with the creative director but neither one of them know that huffing gasoline actually destroys the creative part of your brain it doesn't enhance it...  OK peace out and go **** yerself.[/quote]

classic Goverment coverup to prevent mass panic. And remember this is a trilogy, you might convince them in ME3.
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2) Dancing.  W T F.  If you are going to keep the dancing crap at least teach Shepard to dance like he/she used to and allow squadmates to dance like the first one...  Why the hell throw this mechanic in and do nothing with it.  Complete waste of development time and also worthy of pink slips in associated departments.[/quote]

I danced, I laughed at the dancing and moved on, why cant you?
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3) Dark Energy collapsing a star?  Really Captain?... Probing Uranus.   "Hey guys let's throw in a midget on a unicycle and set him on fire!!!"  Yeah no sense.  Poor little fellah can't even reach the peddles.[/quote]

This sounds to me like someone might making a gateway. Using the sun as fuel?
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4) Zaeeed.  Again really?  Who wrote this nonsense and better yet who the hell approved it.  Zaeed co-founded the Blue Suns?  W T F.  Really?  That's how you tie him in?  I guess it's better than Thane or Samara just being birthed without any ties to the relevant Story.[/quote]

To quote Zaeed himself "Burn, *** *** ** * *****" I loved Zaeed, both as a character and as companion, only shame is you cant have a dialog with him on the ship.
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5) Thane.  Awesome character.  Has no business in Mass Effect.  Really none.  The only thing tying him to the story arc is the fact that you run into him.  Telling a story is an art form I know but even art has structure and a basis in logic...[/quote]

As with all chars, they are given to you by TiM as he thinks they are the best for the mission. So you go to find them.
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6) Samara...  Really?  A cougar you can't nail combined with a story arc that detracts ENTIRELY from the main arc is not an ARC.  Just for future reference, If there is no connecting plot elements it's a "NEW STORY"...[/quote]

Are you a rabbit in need of nailing everything that is female looking. When you suggest more she walks away because she likes you too but cant get involved because of her committment to the code (imo)

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7) The Warden tries to capture Shepard?  Really?  Hey most badass human that ever lived, my douchebag montage here is going to kick yer ass if you don't step peaceably into that small box on the other side of the room.  Even though you have the backing of billions of credits and saved the whole galaxy...  Really Captain?  Probing Uranus...[/quote]

He saw the bounty offered for capturing Shepard and deemed it worth it, do you realise what mass of credits that need to be?
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8) Conrad is back?  Really?  Why would you bring back the most retarded character in the ME universe?  AND give him exclusive animations and dialogue?  Because the intern writers thought it would be hilarious to see what they could get approved for final cut and someone at Bioware is blind def AND stupid yet has the power to approve concepts?  Least they drop his dumb ass in a meat grinder.  Still useless waste of production time.[/quote]

Never talked to Conrad in my 5 playthroughs so far, if he is so annoying leave him be then?
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9) Planet Scanning?  Yeah dude who came up with this gem had better be fired.  Everyone who approved it also needs to be fired.  There is nothing streamlined or fun about this nonsense.  Why would you replace something tedious with something so reservedly tedious it made me want to cause whoever came up with the idea immense amounts of physical pain.[/quote]

Sure, its a dull experience but the Mako missions was horrible, I would have prefered a combination of the two and with the Hammerhead I will get that:wizard:
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10) Fuel Depots?  Seriously guys you removed the economy, why the **** would you specifically add in a mechanic that completely contradicts itself.  "There is no functional economy we replaced it with a points system.  But you still have to pay for gas because that will help people relate to having to buy gas in real life."  No you are a moron.  Whoever came up with this and approved it also needs to be fired.[/quote]

Only needed if you want to explore. Upgrades cost money, Probes and fuel are upgrades for the ship so you can explore the none core systems. So its logical they cost credits. I even think you start with 0 fuel.
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11) Loyalty missions?  Really who came up with this crap.  You have to go on a mission to find the yellow cake dingdongs because if she doesn't get them she'll stab me in my sleep for cheating on her with the computer...  We get it.  One of the writers had a pregnant she demon at home and her constant emotional torture wreaked havoc on his creative processes, but who the hell approved it anyway?  Seriously give the guy paternity leave or something.  Don't encourage him by forcing all his nonsense down our throats... Loyalty missions without ties to greater story arc... /fail yer fired.  We won't be calling you.[/quote]

You scratch my back, I scratch yours. Sure they sign up to fight for you, but if you want them to do more than just their job you need to help them first..
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12) Ammo?  Really?  Ok so in ME1 "we don't need ammo anymore and have fleshed out a complex and meaningful reason for this that ties together with Mass Effect".  In ME2 "We brought back ammo cause we know yall merricans like BIG GUNS WITH AMMO YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!".  Seriously dude who thought this was a good idea "**** YOU" another shining example of how turning something awesome into something stupid is always a single retarded idea away.   Fire this idiot immediately and put it on video we want proof.[/quote]

I dont complain, I would have prefered a mix of them instead. If the gun gets overheated you can either wait or eject a heatcell. But as I said I dont complain. Its good enough.
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13) No Vehicles...  Ok so some people complained about the Mako.  Those same people don't know what gravity is and think all planets are like earth with plants and oceans and pretty birdies what crap on your car window (even when it's under cover).  But let's go ahead and cater to the stupidest part of our audience because they don't get that low gravity = floating.  Oh and the same idiots who decided climbing straight up a cliff face was preferable to finding the path that leads around and up the mountain... lets help them out too.  Let's ignore the fact that we are focusing on shooter heavy mechanics and every popular shooter has a hardcore vehicle element attached to it...  Really fire this idiot too.  Vehicles as DLC?  Good call moron.  Next time let's just crap in a coffee cup and bring it to the guy who signs your paycheck instead k.[/quote]

All vehicles in games with only one road to go is just a dull transportation route imo. I must say I enjoyed killing a Trasher Maw on foot more than in the Mako, same with the huge Geth robot.
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14) UPGRADES.  Really a bunch of mercs, a religious wackjob, and assorted guns for hire all have schematics for upgrades to a ship so advanced that the names of the technologies being used are top secret...  Yet they have all these speshul "ideas" that somehow help defend against the technology of a race of genocidal sentient AI's that are supposedly millions of years more advanced than us...  Good job pal but we moved your office over by the window.  The one overlooking the parking lot and the main exit.[/quote]

As someone stated earlier, all upgrades are within their field of experties. Garrus is in charge of the guns and give you a secret Turian gun upgrade. Whats so illogical about that?
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15) Jacob's loyalty mission?  Really a black guy wants to go find his father?  Like he ever knew him in the first place...  Yeah stereotype I know, and probably racist, but if you reverse the stereotype it has the same effect.  It's just as stupid.  Combine that with the reverse slavery references and look what you get?  More nonsense.  But this time it's offensive to black people, educated people, and anyone else who gives a crap about coherent story elements.  This was completely unnecessary, detracts from the overall story AND it's offensive.  Great job...  You couldn't think up anything better that "What if the black fellah wants to find his long lost dad, oh and let's make the dad a slave owner."  Seriously pay someone to think **** through before you put it into your games.  You used to do this... W T F happened...?[/quote]

Many mentions this but no one complains about gunning down countless Geth just because you have been told they are evil. All robots are servants to the sentient races, they are mechanical slaves sold at the market.
And his dad being a slaver? The only ones serving him was the robots, the males wanted to kill him and the women lived in another village. And you have 3 choices to punish him; by law, by his own crew or giving him the easy way out. So basicly they give you a chance to give a fitting end to his cruel ways. But Im sure you wouldnt have complained if Jacob was Turian. THAT is racism..
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16) Continue?!?!?!?!?!  WTF is this nonsense.  Unless there is more game, why oh why do we have the option to continue playing a game that for all intents and purposes is over.  What are you going to do mine all the resources using the thrilling Planet Scan mini game?  Really Bioware... Really?  Continued play past the end of a story arc implies there is more to do that is unrelated to the story arc.  It's not supposed to be a sandbox with no toys and a bunch of dialogue.  You coulda done that with credits.   Based on a real post by: JRM01 [/quote]

EVER HEARD OF DLC??? Its so we get new stuff to play with and expand the adventure before ME3 is released.
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17) Cheerleader?  How the holy **** does Jack even know what a cheerleader is?  Do you think the other races in the galaxy would embrace social retardation and cheerleading would catch on as a meaningful profession throughout the galaxy?  Why the **** didn't Jack just call her a **** like any normal catfight dialogue?  Seriously whoever edited down Jack's dialogue in this game was clueless.  I know for a fact just by listening to the voice acting that the voice acter herself was thinking "huh... this is stupid but ok".  Really guys lets hire some actual writers or bring back the team that did ME1.  They were actually good and wrote about stuff that tried to make sense....   Based on a real post by: JRM01
to be continued...

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[ZennExile]

MTN Dew Fanatic wrote...

ZennExile wrote...
12) Ammo?  Really?  Ok so in ME1 "we don't need ammo anymore and have fleshed out a complex and meaningful reason for this that ties together with Mass Effect".  In ME2 "We brought back ammo cause we know yall merricans like BIG GUNS WITH AMMO YEEEEEEEEEEEEEEHAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!".  Seriously dude who thought this was a good idea "**** YOU" another shining example of how turning something awesome into something stupid is always a single retarded idea away.   Fire this idiot immediately and put it on video we want proof.

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I doubt that's what they thought.

Yeah but does it really matter what they thought?  Adding in ammo?  To a universe that spent a great deal of effort explaining why ammo was no longer needed?  The point with my satire there is to establish clearly that no matter what the excuse this just doesn't contain sense of its own and ride's the logical shortbus.

[Kerberus88]

Yeah but does it really matter what they thought?  Adding in ammo?  To a universe that spent a great deal of effort explaining why ammo was no longer needed?  The point with my satire there is to establish clearly that no matter what the excuse this just doesn't contain sense of its own and ride's the logical shortbus.

Satire my ass. You were just nerd-raging. Don't try to pass your nerd-rage off as a work of literature. You're definately no Swift.

[ZennExile]

Kerberus88 wrote...

ZennExile wrote...

Ok let's make this more clear for you ZennExile.
Arguementative children need not post here about how their ideas are the only ideas. If you have something to add the by all means otherwise you are a waste of forum space what should be banned purely for exceeding the useless cap.
No one cares what your OPINION is about their thoughts and ideas. NO ONE. So take the hint and come up with your own ideas or kick rocks. Yer wasting valuable forum realestate with stupidity and childish attempts to win an arguement that you aren't equipped to handle in the first place.

^This.

I love when people describe themselves in an attempt to humiliate another person.

Where exactly to I attack other people's opinions again and try to prove them invalid?  Oh yeah I don't.  I just make fun of crap I find fun worthy.

I love it when idiots pop in to be part of an attack on something they don't understand just because other people are doing it like they have no mind of their own.

 smiley five

[Ashkeldir]

Turkeysock wrote...
Oh, hey Zenn, guess what, some of the things don't make sense, sure, but most of what you said DOES if you actually pay attention to the game.

See, the point here is that he has voiced his opinion, his feelings on what's wrong with the game, and you are trying to invalidate his feelings by telling him he's not allowed to feel what he feels.  Some things don't make sense for a lot of reasons.  But, anyone can justify anything they want if they spend enough time trying to come up with reasons...  You can't tell someone how to feel, and you're trying to do that.  You aren't going to change his mind - now you're playing ball with him, so I guess, if you're really that bored, keep playing - he's that bored (I can tell!)  

[EverettCameron]

I'll sum up this thread

Stop whining, we ( I ) don't care what you think. If you want to tear apart a game go find one deserving of it like Darksiders or other such crap.



p.s. We don't care.

[ZennExile]

Kerberus88 wrote...

Yeah but does it really matter what they thought?  Adding in ammo?  To a universe that spent a great deal of effort explaining why ammo was no longer needed?  The point with my satire there is to establish clearly that no matter what the excuse this just doesn't contain sense of its own and ride's the logical shortbus.

Satire my ass. You were just nerd-raging. Don't try to pass your nerd-rage off as a work of literature. You're definately no Swift.

Did you read any of that or are you here on the flame bandwagon because I baited you like a simple minded fish that can't tell the difference between food and a shiney hook being suspended on a wire...?

[ZennExile]

EverettCameron wrote...

I'll sum up this thread
Stop whining, we ( I ) don't care what you think. If you want to tear apart a game go find one deserving of it like Darksiders or other such crap.

p.s. We don't care.

That's a lot of effort for "not caring".  Seems like you care a great deal.  I mean if you really didn't care why would you post in such a worthless thread bumbing such a useless idea such as mine...

 smiley five

[Ashkeldir]

ZennExile wrote...
And the reason being polite is fake is in the definition you quoted.   "showing".

fake –adjective : designed to deceive or cheat; not real; counterfeit

If that is who I am, it is not fake. If I have no intent to deceive, it is not fake.

But you're right about the production of lulz in this thread  !