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[ZennExile]

Sleepicub09 wrote...

Mr.Kusy wrote...

ZennExile wrote...

Rest of the list though I might not read and probably won't respond to and I hope it contained lulz. 

What's your point in starting a discussion when you don't even bother with reading anwsers? You might as well go vent your oversized ego in front of a mirror.

because he's something called a troll notice he basically just saifd he hate the game in 15 different bits

I'll send you $100 with PayPal if you can find a single instance of me saying I don't like the game.  No joke.  Hit that search button and make $100 or stfu till you know somethin

[xSolclaim]

ZennExile wrote...

Templar Lucas wrote...

Responses:

1) Vaguely agree. The Council doesn't really do much, but that's really their point. They serve as a legal stumbling block. If they cooperated, there'd be no need to go on a covert mission to take out the Collectors, which would make for a pretty uneventful game. It'll be nice to rub it in their faces in ME3 though.

2) Nit-picking. Don't really care.

3) Don't really know where this is going...

4) Don't care for Zaeed much, but his mission's fun at least.

5) Thane is in the game because the Illusive Man knows his reputation, and thought his skills would be useful for Shepard. That's why he gave you Thane's dossier.

6) See above. Also, I noticed you don't complain about Mordin coming out of nowhere. Inconsistent.

7) Yeah, the Warden is sort of an idiot, then again having absolute power over others tends to make you think you can control anyone. I enjoyed shooting him in the face though. Additionally, it wouldn't have been much of a mission if you just picked up Jack and left.

8) I found the Conrad bit fairly entertaining, especially since your default response is to knee him in the groin.

9) Agreed. Coming back from a firefight and then having to stop and scan planets isn't fun.

10) Fuel was never an issue for me, but I fail to see the point in implementing it. All it really amounts to is throwing a few thousand credits away per playthrough. Suggest just dropping fuel depots.

11) I rather liked the missions, and they make sense from a characterization point of view. Your squadmates know that they might not come back from the Omega 4 relay, so it makes sense that they'd want some closure before they jump into the fray, as Jacob states early in the game.

12) Ammo never really posed a problem with me. If it means I can fire my sniper rifle more than twice before I need to stop, I'm good.

13) Vehicle sections in games with shooter combat almost inevitably suck, and I'm happy that ME2 avoids this pitfall completely.

14) Team-mates contributing useful stuff is a bad thing?

15) Pretty sure you're the only one who read this much into Jacob's loyalty mission.

16) You're complaining about BioWare giving you more options and the chance to complete sidequests you may have skipped? May as well be complaining about receiving free ice cream from Baskin' Robins because they normally charge you for it.

Mordin didn't come out of nowhere.  Mordin was part of the genophage project.  He fits perfectly into the story Arc and he's directly related to both ME1 and ME3 in a meaningful way.  Mordin is probably the best character Bioware has ever made and he's by far the best written character in ME2.  There is no valid argument here either.  If you don't agree you have some kind of bias blocking your higher brain functions.

Rest of the list though I might not read and probably won't respond to and I hope it contained lulz. 

Wait, your trying to be funny this whole time and not serious, right????. because  think that bolded line there spells out T~R~O~L~L . mordin is a good character thats true but to say,Hes the best character in the game and everyone else sucks and if you have a diffrent opionion your a retard. That would be trolling. good day to you.

[Turkeysock]

Zenn... I honestly feel sorry for you.



You do bring up some good points. But most of your points are just your perspective. I do respect what you think, but that respect only goes so far.



And honestly, I really do feel sorry for you. You lack the ability to look and comprehend other peoples perspectives. And that is what is really sad.

[xSolclaim]

^ the only good points he brought up were points said 100 thousand times before, so no he shoulnt get credit for it, as well as the way he states it. BTW i assume all of you have scene ZP''s "review" of me2 now. made me laught more then this fellow.

[dreman9999]

ZennExile wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

Dude, you're being silly, and i suspect making a mimic attempt at what Zero Punctuation does by grossly exaggerating things you do or don't like to the point of being blatantly inaccurate.

Is it silly or does it make so much sense that it hurts your fanboi button?

I'm sorry...Most of what you typed did not make sense.
You don't make a good arguement for your issues and what you have Issues with are nickpicks.
Even Yatzee from Zore Puntuation complain less about this game then you did and It's his job to nickpick on  games.

[slackbheep]

Op says wot?

[xSolclaim]

dreman9999 wrote...

ZennExile wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

Dude, you're being silly, and i suspect making a mimic attempt at what Zero Punctuation does by grossly exaggerating things you do or don't like to the point of being blatantly inaccurate.

Is it silly or does it make so much sense that it hurts your fanboi button?

I'm sorry...Most of what you typed did not make sense.
You don't make a good arguement for your issues and what you have Issues with are nickpicks.
Even Yatzee from Zore Puntuation complain less about this game then you did and It's his job to nickpick on  games.

just saw that its off topic but he really didnt have that much bad to say about the game, never really mentioned ammo, couldn't complain about the wriitng, complained about the shooter mechanics, thought that was weird. but he complained about the dificulty, and i assume he was playing on not insanity

[ZennExile]

TekFanX wrote...

Mhhh...I have to agree with the OP in several points. Although I'm not that ragefull like a pitfight-dog with a jalapeno in the butt(sorry, crazy guy is trying to make a point from your yelling, no offense).

About the ammo: Yeah...that's somewhat the most dumbest thing I ever encountered.
First game makes a logical story on how modern weaponry doesn't need ammo anymore and the second kicks all of it away for a gameplay-mechanic.

One thing that got to me is all the tech we never encountered in ME1 without having any story-telling about how the heck that stuff started appearing in just two years throughout the galaxy without having major flaws.
What I mean?
Loki, Fenris and YMIR.
Surely that things would have been pretty usefull to mercs in ME1 too.

Other thing I got a little angry about is the part with the class-Vid of the Adept: Fighting without fireing a shot.
Later I read in this forums that every class is meant to balance weapon-use and powers.

Conrad...um...yeah...the annoying fan. Now stating that I shoved a gun in his face although I told him to get to his wife and strengthen humanity from home.
Pretty sure I know why his wife payed for his departure so happily -.-

Then again the story-telling of the different ME1-Squaddies not joining you.
Liara: I have to find this guy and kill him...no I can not come with you to save the galaxy. Yeah sure, I'm a good information-broker right now but I can't understand the information that I'll be dead when the reapers arrive and make it impossible for me to kill the Shadow Broker.
Wrex: Have to unite the Krogans. Reapers? Oh yeah, these things. Why should I get the fact that there will be no Krogans left to unite if they come?
Ashley/Kaidan: I've seen the collectors and what terrible things they do.
But I will never work for cerberus, because I'm so loyal to the alliance that I don't care if the reapers turn us into a husks to form the huskiance.

About recruiting the different squaddies that don't fit into the main-storyline: I think there's no reason why everyone should be bound to the ME1-happenings or the collectors.
They are meant to be the top-specialists on their type of fighting.
Sure thing not everyone fought the geth, collectors or such.
And about Samara: She's more entitled than you stated. Not much, but as a maiden she refused to hand slaves to the collectors, so she killer her merc-band and fled.

About the Loyalty-Missions...sometimes the OP is right:

Thane: No agreement with OP. Sure thing a father would want his son save in the next time, before taking down a threat that endangers him in some months when the reapers come.

Samara: Agreeing with OP: Why killing the serial-murder-daughter instead of the monsters that kill hundreds of thousands in some months?!

Tali: Agreeing with OP: No real reason why she should endanger the fleet by waiting to kill the reaper-servants, even if she get's herself exiled in the course of it.

Garrus: Agreeing with OP: We all know, he isn't that smart about planning on longer distances...but hey...revengeing ten dead people in the course of endangering all sentient, high-evolved live...sure...that's justice.

Grunt: Disagreeing with OP: He never wants to get to Tuchanka. We say him we do so.

Mordin: Agreeing with OP: Wanting to save the lost student and endanger favourite nephew...very smaaart scientist.

Legion: Disagreeing with OP: Why save all organics from the heretics and the old machines if all other "normal" geth turn to heretics until Legion is back? Its race would be destroyed as it is, wether Legion is fighting or not.

Jacob: Disagreeing with OP: He buried his father in his memories, doesn't need to go there by his own intention.
The racist thing...well...I don't make a difference in skin-color, so I didn't quite thought of it in the way you stated it.

Miranda: Disagreeing with OP: Same as with Thane: Family comes first, then the universe. The threat from the mercs and the father is more dangerous at that point.

Zaeed: Somehow agreeing with OP. Mercenary doesn't tend to care about anything than revenge. If he stated in his contract he wanted this cleared before, he's just the selfish ****** he appears to be. That's not quite cerberus-like of solving the problem fast, though.

On the Mako:
I friggin hated that thing.
Not because of gravimetric differences or such, but because it became boring in the second playthrough to drive from one point to the other. Although I liked the fights.
Scanning is now boring too, but at least it's mostly faster than the cruising-tours with the Mako.

You know they actually put peppers up those poor animals asses.    They make them eat gunpowder too.  Sick bastards put peppers up horse's asses too to make them prancy...  I don't know enough about horses to know the venacular but it makes them dance kinda sorta.  Anyway.. peppers in asses = no laughing matter.

I'll also touch on the Mako comment because I think you glossed something profound without knowing it.

You attempt to identify the "why" part of what you didn't like about the mako.  I commend you for being more mentally developed than 95% of the gaming population.  Truly /bow.  No joke.

BUTTTT...

You liked the fights with the Mako which I assume means (correct me if I'm wrong) you likey da vehicle combatz?!?!?  Driving around empty wastelands was quite boring, I have to agree there, but what didn't make sense to me (and MANY MANY other people) is that instead of making the Mako (bacon with macon lulz) better they just cut an essential part of both RPGs and popular shooters out of the picture.

It's not that the Mako was awesomesauce and I want to slather it's ranomd portholes with lube and "explore" them.  It's that exploration is a huge play motivation for MILLLIONS of RPG fans and vehicles are enormously popular in modern shooters.  ENORMOUSLY popular.  Yet for some reason Bioware drop kicked the vehicle content in favor of "Really Captain?... Probing Uranus."

That's where the lack of sense comes in. 

[ZennExile]

Turkeysock wrote...

Zenn... I honestly feel sorry for you.

You do bring up some good points. But most of your points are just your perspective. I do respect what you think, but that respect only goes so far.

And honestly, I really do feel sorry for you. You lack the ability to look and comprehend other peoples perspectives. And that is what is really sad.

Yer name is Turkeysock dude.  /fin

[ZennExile]

xSolclaim wrote...

ZennExile wrote...

Templar Lucas wrote...

Responses:

1) Vaguely agree. The Council doesn't really do much, but that's really their point. They serve as a legal stumbling block. If they cooperated, there'd be no need to go on a covert mission to take out the Collectors, which would make for a pretty uneventful game. It'll be nice to rub it in their faces in ME3 though.

2) Nit-picking. Don't really care.

3) Don't really know where this is going...

4) Don't care for Zaeed much, but his mission's fun at least.

5) Thane is in the game because the Illusive Man knows his reputation, and thought his skills would be useful for Shepard. That's why he gave you Thane's dossier.

6) See above. Also, I noticed you don't complain about Mordin coming out of nowhere. Inconsistent.

7) Yeah, the Warden is sort of an idiot, then again having absolute power over others tends to make you think you can control anyone. I enjoyed shooting him in the face though. Additionally, it wouldn't have been much of a mission if you just picked up Jack and left.

8) I found the Conrad bit fairly entertaining, especially since your default response is to knee him in the groin.

9) Agreed. Coming back from a firefight and then having to stop and scan planets isn't fun.

10) Fuel was never an issue for me, but I fail to see the point in implementing it. All it really amounts to is throwing a few thousand credits away per playthrough. Suggest just dropping fuel depots.

11) I rather liked the missions, and they make sense from a characterization point of view. Your squadmates know that they might not come back from the Omega 4 relay, so it makes sense that they'd want some closure before they jump into the fray, as Jacob states early in the game.

12) Ammo never really posed a problem with me. If it means I can fire my sniper rifle more than twice before I need to stop, I'm good.

13) Vehicle sections in games with shooter combat almost inevitably suck, and I'm happy that ME2 avoids this pitfall completely.

14) Team-mates contributing useful stuff is a bad thing?

15) Pretty sure you're the only one who read this much into Jacob's loyalty mission.

16) You're complaining about BioWare giving you more options and the chance to complete sidequests you may have skipped? May as well be complaining about receiving free ice cream from Baskin' Robins because they normally charge you for it.

Mordin didn't come out of nowhere.  Mordin was part of the genophage project.  He fits perfectly into the story Arc and he's directly related to both ME1 and ME3 in a meaningful way.  Mordin is probably the best character Bioware has ever made and he's by far the best written character in ME2.  There is no valid argument here either.  If you don't agree you have some kind of bias blocking your higher brain functions.

Rest of the list though I might not read and probably won't respond to and I hope it contained lulz. 

Wait, your trying to be funny this whole time and not serious, right????. because  think that bolded line there spells out T~R~O~L~L . mordin is a good character thats true but to say,Hes the best character in the game and everyone else sucks and if you have a diffrent opionion your a retard. That would be trolling. good day to you.

1) "bias blocking higher brain function" doesn't translate to "retarded"  But I guess the education system does suck in this country so I'll attempt to forgive you for this disregard for context and understanding.
2) when you call someone a troll and say "good day to you" that is the same as saying goodbye and yet here you are posting 2 more times.  I hate liars.  DIE IN A FIRE YOU DIRTY LIAR.  oh yes,  poet. 

[xSolclaim]

ZennExile wrote...

TekFanX wrote...

Mhhh...I have to agree with the OP in several points. Although I'm not that ragefull like a pitfight-dog with a jalapeno in the butt(sorry, crazy guy is trying to make a point from your yelling, no offense).

About the ammo: Yeah...that's somewhat the most dumbest thing I ever encountered.
First game makes a logical story on how modern weaponry doesn't need ammo anymore and the second kicks all of it away for a gameplay-mechanic.

One thing that got to me is all the tech we never encountered in ME1 without having any story-telling about how the heck that stuff started appearing in just two years throughout the galaxy without having major flaws.
What I mean?
Loki, Fenris and YMIR.
Surely that things would have been pretty usefull to mercs in ME1 too.

Other thing I got a little angry about is the part with the class-Vid of the Adept: Fighting without fireing a shot.
Later I read in this forums that every class is meant to balance weapon-use and powers.

Conrad...um...yeah...the annoying fan. Now stating that I shoved a gun in his face although I told him to get to his wife and strengthen humanity from home.
Pretty sure I know why his wife payed for his departure so happily -.-

Then again the story-telling of the different ME1-Squaddies not joining you.
Liara: I have to find this guy and kill him...no I can not come with you to save the galaxy. Yeah sure, I'm a good information-broker right now but I can't understand the information that I'll be dead when the reapers arrive and make it impossible for me to kill the Shadow Broker.
Wrex: Have to unite the Krogans. Reapers? Oh yeah, these things. Why should I get the fact that there will be no Krogans left to unite if they come?
Ashley/Kaidan: I've seen the collectors and what terrible things they do.
But I will never work for cerberus, because I'm so loyal to the alliance that I don't care if the reapers turn us into a husks to form the huskiance.

About recruiting the different squaddies that don't fit into the main-storyline: I think there's no reason why everyone should be bound to the ME1-happenings or the collectors.
They are meant to be the top-specialists on their type of fighting.
Sure thing not everyone fought the geth, collectors or such.
And about Samara: She's more entitled than you stated. Not much, but as a maiden she refused to hand slaves to the collectors, so she killer her merc-band and fled.

About the Loyalty-Missions...sometimes the OP is right:

Thane: No agreement with OP. Sure thing a father would want his son save in the next time, before taking down a threat that endangers him in some months when the reapers come.

Samara: Agreeing with OP: Why killing the serial-murder-daughter instead of the monsters that kill hundreds of thousands in some months?!

Tali: Agreeing with OP: No real reason why she should endanger the fleet by waiting to kill the reaper-servants, even if she get's herself exiled in the course of it.

Garrus: Agreeing with OP: We all know, he isn't that smart about planning on longer distances...but hey...revengeing ten dead people in the course of endangering all sentient, high-evolved live...sure...that's justice.

Grunt: Disagreeing with OP: He never wants to get to Tuchanka. We say him we do so.

Mordin: Agreeing with OP: Wanting to save the lost student and endanger favourite nephew...very smaaart scientist.

Legion: Disagreeing with OP: Why save all organics from the heretics and the old machines if all other "normal" geth turn to heretics until Legion is back? Its race would be destroyed as it is, wether Legion is fighting or not.

Jacob: Disagreeing with OP: He buried his father in his memories, doesn't need to go there by his own intention.
The racist thing...well...I don't make a difference in skin-color, so I didn't quite thought of it in the way you stated it.

Miranda: Disagreeing with OP: Same as with Thane: Family comes first, then the universe. The threat from the mercs and the father is more dangerous at that point.

Zaeed: Somehow agreeing with OP. Mercenary doesn't tend to care about anything than revenge. If he stated in his contract he wanted this cleared before, he's just the selfish ****** he appears to be. That's not quite cerberus-like of solving the problem fast, though.

On the Mako:
I friggin hated that thing.
Not because of gravimetric differences or such, but because it became boring in the second playthrough to drive from one point to the other. Although I liked the fights.
Scanning is now boring too, but at least it's mostly faster than the cruising-tours with the Mako.

You know they actually put peppers up those poor animals asses.    They make them eat gunpowder too.  Sick bastards put peppers up horse's asses too to make them prancy...  I don't know enough about horses to know the venacular but it makes them dance kinda sorta.  Anyway.. peppers in asses = no laughing matter.

I'll also touch on the Mako comment because I think you glossed something profound without knowing it.

You attempt to identify the "why" part of what you didn't like about the mako.  I commend you for being more mentally developed than 95% of the gaming population.  Truly /bow.  No joke.

BUTTTT...

You liked the fights with the Mako which I assume means (correct me if I'm wrong) you likey da vehicle combatz?!?!?  Driving around empty wastelands was quite boring, I have to agree there, but what didn't make sense to me (and MANY MANY other people) is that instead of making the Mako (bacon with macon lulz) better they just cut an essential part of both RPGs and popular shooters out of the picture.

It's not that the Mako was awesomesauce and I want to slather it's ranomd portholes with lube and "explore" them.  It's that exploration is a huge play motivation for MILLLIONS of RPG fans and vehicles are enormously popular in modern shooters.  ENORMOUSLY popular.  Yet for some reason Bioware drop kicked the vehicle content in favor of "Really Captain?... Probing Uranus."

That's where the lack of sense comes in. 

Vehicles were really no more repeditive then scanning, after u went to every planet, once you did NOT want to do it agian, they had limitations, they could have went with keeping the mako and keeping it the same, with new locations. but all somewhat dead, or had probing, and planets that were all unique. i dont see it as much of an improvement but a nice change. because i would rather this system over the first games system being replicated.

[xSolclaim]

ZennExile wrote...

xSolclaim wrote...

ZennExile wrote...

Templar Lucas wrote...

Responses:

1) Vaguely agree. The Council doesn't really do much, but that's really their point. They serve as a legal stumbling block. If they cooperated, there'd be no need to go on a covert mission to take out the Collectors, which would make for a pretty uneventful game. It'll be nice to rub it in their faces in ME3 though.

2) Nit-picking. Don't really care.

3) Don't really know where this is going...

4) Don't care for Zaeed much, but his mission's fun at least.

5) Thane is in the game because the Illusive Man knows his reputation, and thought his skills would be useful for Shepard. That's why he gave you Thane's dossier.

6) See above. Also, I noticed you don't complain about Mordin coming out of nowhere. Inconsistent.

7) Yeah, the Warden is sort of an idiot, then again having absolute power over others tends to make you think you can control anyone. I enjoyed shooting him in the face though. Additionally, it wouldn't have been much of a mission if you just picked up Jack and left.

8) I found the Conrad bit fairly entertaining, especially since your default response is to knee him in the groin.

9) Agreed. Coming back from a firefight and then having to stop and scan planets isn't fun.

10) Fuel was never an issue for me, but I fail to see the point in implementing it. All it really amounts to is throwing a few thousand credits away per playthrough. Suggest just dropping fuel depots.

11) I rather liked the missions, and they make sense from a characterization point of view. Your squadmates know that they might not come back from the Omega 4 relay, so it makes sense that they'd want some closure before they jump into the fray, as Jacob states early in the game.

12) Ammo never really posed a problem with me. If it means I can fire my sniper rifle more than twice before I need to stop, I'm good.

13) Vehicle sections in games with shooter combat almost inevitably suck, and I'm happy that ME2 avoids this pitfall completely.

14) Team-mates contributing useful stuff is a bad thing?

15) Pretty sure you're the only one who read this much into Jacob's loyalty mission.

16) You're complaining about BioWare giving you more options and the chance to complete sidequests you may have skipped? May as well be complaining about receiving free ice cream from Baskin' Robins because they normally charge you for it.

Mordin didn't come out of nowhere.  Mordin was part of the genophage project.  He fits perfectly into the story Arc and he's directly related to both ME1 and ME3 in a meaningful way.  Mordin is probably the best character Bioware has ever made and he's by far the best written character in ME2.  There is no valid argument here either.  If you don't agree you have some kind of bias blocking your higher brain functions.

Rest of the list though I might not read and probably won't respond to and I hope it contained lulz. 

Wait, your trying to be funny this whole time and not serious, right????. because  think that bolded line there spells out T~R~O~L~L . mordin is a good character thats true but to say,Hes the best character in the game and everyone else sucks and if you have a diffrent opionion your a retard. That would be trolling. good day to you.

1) "bias blocking higher brain function" doesn't translate to "retarded"  But I guess the education system does suck in this country so I'll attempt to forgive you for this disregard for context and understanding.
2) when you call someone a troll and say "good day to you" that is the same as saying goodbye and yet here you are posting 2 more times.  I hate liars.  DIE IN A FIRE YOU DIRTY LIAR.  oh yes,  poet. 

Well im now deafiting my own poiunt but i said good day to you (not this thread in spacific, its a free country i can post wherever i chose, and this thread is entertaining right now. so I chose to stay.
You also dodged, my point. your still saying you cant deny my opinon because its mine and im right if you think diffrently you arent thinking right, type of thing to say.

[ZennExile]

xSolclaim wrote...

ZennExile wrote...

TekFanX wrote...

Mhhh...I have to agree with the OP in several points. Although I'm not that ragefull like a pitfight-dog with a jalapeno in the butt(sorry, crazy guy is trying to make a point from your yelling, no offense).

About the ammo: Yeah...that's somewhat the most dumbest thing I ever encountered.
First game makes a logical story on how modern weaponry doesn't need ammo anymore and the second kicks all of it away for a gameplay-mechanic.

One thing that got to me is all the tech we never encountered in ME1 without having any story-telling about how the heck that stuff started appearing in just two years throughout the galaxy without having major flaws.
What I mean?
Loki, Fenris and YMIR.
Surely that things would have been pretty usefull to mercs in ME1 too.

Other thing I got a little angry about is the part with the class-Vid of the Adept: Fighting without fireing a shot.
Later I read in this forums that every class is meant to balance weapon-use and powers.

Conrad...um...yeah...the annoying fan. Now stating that I shoved a gun in his face although I told him to get to his wife and strengthen humanity from home.
Pretty sure I know why his wife payed for his departure so happily -.-

Then again the story-telling of the different ME1-Squaddies not joining you.
Liara: I have to find this guy and kill him...no I can not come with you to save the galaxy. Yeah sure, I'm a good information-broker right now but I can't understand the information that I'll be dead when the reapers arrive and make it impossible for me to kill the Shadow Broker.
Wrex: Have to unite the Krogans. Reapers? Oh yeah, these things. Why should I get the fact that there will be no Krogans left to unite if they come?
Ashley/Kaidan: I've seen the collectors and what terrible things they do.
But I will never work for cerberus, because I'm so loyal to the alliance that I don't care if the reapers turn us into a husks to form the huskiance.

About recruiting the different squaddies that don't fit into the main-storyline: I think there's no reason why everyone should be bound to the ME1-happenings or the collectors.
They are meant to be the top-specialists on their type of fighting.
Sure thing not everyone fought the geth, collectors or such.
And about Samara: She's more entitled than you stated. Not much, but as a maiden she refused to hand slaves to the collectors, so she killer her merc-band and fled.

About the Loyalty-Missions...sometimes the OP is right:

Thane: No agreement with OP. Sure thing a father would want his son save in the next time, before taking down a threat that endangers him in some months when the reapers come.

Samara: Agreeing with OP: Why killing the serial-murder-daughter instead of the monsters that kill hundreds of thousands in some months?!

Tali: Agreeing with OP: No real reason why she should endanger the fleet by waiting to kill the reaper-servants, even if she get's herself exiled in the course of it.

Garrus: Agreeing with OP: We all know, he isn't that smart about planning on longer distances...but hey...revengeing ten dead people in the course of endangering all sentient, high-evolved live...sure...that's justice.

Grunt: Disagreeing with OP: He never wants to get to Tuchanka. We say him we do so.

Mordin: Agreeing with OP: Wanting to save the lost student and endanger favourite nephew...very smaaart scientist.

Legion: Disagreeing with OP: Why save all organics from the heretics and the old machines if all other "normal" geth turn to heretics until Legion is back? Its race would be destroyed as it is, wether Legion is fighting or not.

Jacob: Disagreeing with OP: He buried his father in his memories, doesn't need to go there by his own intention.
The racist thing...well...I don't make a difference in skin-color, so I didn't quite thought of it in the way you stated it.

Miranda: Disagreeing with OP: Same as with Thane: Family comes first, then the universe. The threat from the mercs and the father is more dangerous at that point.

Zaeed: Somehow agreeing with OP. Mercenary doesn't tend to care about anything than revenge. If he stated in his contract he wanted this cleared before, he's just the selfish ****** he appears to be. That's not quite cerberus-like of solving the problem fast, though.

On the Mako:
I friggin hated that thing.
Not because of gravimetric differences or such, but because it became boring in the second playthrough to drive from one point to the other. Although I liked the fights.
Scanning is now boring too, but at least it's mostly faster than the cruising-tours with the Mako.

You know they actually put peppers up those poor animals asses.    They make them eat gunpowder too.  Sick bastards put peppers up horse's asses too to make them prancy...  I don't know enough about horses to know the venacular but it makes them dance kinda sorta.  Anyway.. peppers in asses = no laughing matter.

I'll also touch on the Mako comment because I think you glossed something profound without knowing it.

You attempt to identify the "why" part of what you didn't like about the mako.  I commend you for being more mentally developed than 95% of the gaming population.  Truly /bow.  No joke.

BUTTTT...

You liked the fights with the Mako which I assume means (correct me if I'm wrong) you likey da vehicle combatz?!?!?  Driving around empty wastelands was quite boring, I have to agree there, but what didn't make sense to me (and MANY MANY other people) is that instead of making the Mako (bacon with macon lulz) better they just cut an essential part of both RPGs and popular shooters out of the picture.

It's not that the Mako was awesomesauce and I want to slather it's ranomd portholes with lube and "explore" them.  It's that exploration is a huge play motivation for MILLLIONS of RPG fans and vehicles are enormously popular in modern shooters.  ENORMOUSLY popular.  Yet for some reason Bioware drop kicked the vehicle content in favor of "Really Captain?... Probing Uranus."

That's where the lack of sense comes in. 

Vehicles were really no more repeditive then scanning, after u went to every planet, once you did NOT want to do it agian, they had limitations, they could have went with keeping the mako and keeping it the same, with new locations. but all somewhat dead, or had probing, and planets that were all unique. i dont see it as much of an improvement but a nice change. because i would rather this system over the first games system being replicated.

Yeah but you said "good day" and that means everything past that point including this post I am not really replying too doesn't exist and/or is totally invalid.

Happy you don't care about vehicles and exploration but about 150 million people disagree with you and they won't shut the fak up about it so I can't hear you. 

[xSolclaim]

ZennExile wrote...

xSolclaim wrote...

ZennExile wrote...

TekFanX wrote...

Mhhh...I have to agree with the OP in several points. Although I'm not that ragefull like a pitfight-dog with a jalapeno in the butt(sorry, crazy guy is trying to make a point from your yelling, no offense).

About the ammo: Yeah...that's somewhat the most dumbest thing I ever encountered.
First game makes a logical story on how modern weaponry doesn't need ammo anymore and the second kicks all of it away for a gameplay-mechanic.

One thing that got to me is all the tech we never encountered in ME1 without having any story-telling about how the heck that stuff started appearing in just two years throughout the galaxy without having major flaws.
What I mean?
Loki, Fenris and YMIR.
Surely that things would have been pretty usefull to mercs in ME1 too.

Other thing I got a little angry about is the part with the class-Vid of the Adept: Fighting without fireing a shot.
Later I read in this forums that every class is meant to balance weapon-use and powers.

Conrad...um...yeah...the annoying fan. Now stating that I shoved a gun in his face although I told him to get to his wife and strengthen humanity from home.
Pretty sure I know why his wife payed for his departure so happily -.-

Then again the story-telling of the different ME1-Squaddies not joining you.
Liara: I have to find this guy and kill him...no I can not come with you to save the galaxy. Yeah sure, I'm a good information-broker right now but I can't understand the information that I'll be dead when the reapers arrive and make it impossible for me to kill the Shadow Broker.
Wrex: Have to unite the Krogans. Reapers? Oh yeah, these things. Why should I get the fact that there will be no Krogans left to unite if they come?
Ashley/Kaidan: I've seen the collectors and what terrible things they do.
But I will never work for cerberus, because I'm so loyal to the alliance that I don't care if the reapers turn us into a husks to form the huskiance.

About recruiting the different squaddies that don't fit into the main-storyline: I think there's no reason why everyone should be bound to the ME1-happenings or the collectors.
They are meant to be the top-specialists on their type of fighting.
Sure thing not everyone fought the geth, collectors or such.
And about Samara: She's more entitled than you stated. Not much, but as a maiden she refused to hand slaves to the collectors, so she killer her merc-band and fled.

About the Loyalty-Missions...sometimes the OP is right:

Thane: No agreement with OP. Sure thing a father would want his son save in the next time, before taking down a threat that endangers him in some months when the reapers come.

Samara: Agreeing with OP: Why killing the serial-murder-daughter instead of the monsters that kill hundreds of thousands in some months?!

Tali: Agreeing with OP: No real reason why she should endanger the fleet by waiting to kill the reaper-servants, even if she get's herself exiled in the course of it.

Garrus: Agreeing with OP: We all know, he isn't that smart about planning on longer distances...but hey...revengeing ten dead people in the course of endangering all sentient, high-evolved live...sure...that's justice.

Grunt: Disagreeing with OP: He never wants to get to Tuchanka. We say him we do so.

Mordin: Agreeing with OP: Wanting to save the lost student and endanger favourite nephew...very smaaart scientist.

Legion: Disagreeing with OP: Why save all organics from the heretics and the old machines if all other "normal" geth turn to heretics until Legion is back? Its race would be destroyed as it is, wether Legion is fighting or not.

Jacob: Disagreeing with OP: He buried his father in his memories, doesn't need to go there by his own intention.
The racist thing...well...I don't make a difference in skin-color, so I didn't quite thought of it in the way you stated it.

Miranda: Disagreeing with OP: Same as with Thane: Family comes first, then the universe. The threat from the mercs and the father is more dangerous at that point.

Zaeed: Somehow agreeing with OP. Mercenary doesn't tend to care about anything than revenge. If he stated in his contract he wanted this cleared before, he's just the selfish ****** he appears to be. That's not quite cerberus-like of solving the problem fast, though.

On the Mako:
I friggin hated that thing.
Not because of gravimetric differences or such, but because it became boring in the second playthrough to drive from one point to the other. Although I liked the fights.
Scanning is now boring too, but at least it's mostly faster than the cruising-tours with the Mako.

You know they actually put peppers up those poor animals asses.    They make them eat gunpowder too.  Sick bastards put peppers up horse's asses too to make them prancy...  I don't know enough about horses to know the venacular but it makes them dance kinda sorta.  Anyway.. peppers in asses = no laughing matter.

I'll also touch on the Mako comment because I think you glossed something profound without knowing it.

You attempt to identify the "why" part of what you didn't like about the mako.  I commend you for being more mentally developed than 95% of the gaming population.  Truly /bow.  No joke.

BUTTTT...

You liked the fights with the Mako which I assume means (correct me if I'm wrong) you likey da vehicle combatz?!?!?  Driving around empty wastelands was quite boring, I have to agree there, but what didn't make sense to me (and MANY MANY other people) is that instead of making the Mako (bacon with macon lulz) better they just cut an essential part of both RPGs and popular shooters out of the picture.

It's not that the Mako was awesomesauce and I want to slather it's ranomd portholes with lube and "explore" them.  It's that exploration is a huge play motivation for MILLLIONS of RPG fans and vehicles are enormously popular in modern shooters.  ENORMOUSLY popular.  Yet for some reason Bioware drop kicked the vehicle content in favor of "Really Captain?... Probing Uranus."

That's where the lack of sense comes in. 

Vehicles were really no more repeditive then scanning, after u went to every planet, once you did NOT want to do it agian, they had limitations, they could have went with keeping the mako and keeping it the same, with new locations. but all somewhat dead, or had probing, and planets that were all unique. i dont see it as much of an improvement but a nice change. because i would rather this system over the first games system being replicated.

Yeah but you said "good day" and that means everything past that point including this post I am not really replying too doesn't exist and/or is totally invalid.

Happy you don't care about vehicles and exploration but about 150 million people disagree with you and they won't shut the fak up about it so I can't hear you. 

150 million i like the way you pull those numbers out of your bumhole. and if it dosent exist, then i dont know how im writing it now.

[Turkeysock]

xSolclaim wrote...

^ the only good points he brought up were points said 100 thousand times before, so no he shoulnt get credit for it, as well as the way he states it. BTW i assume all of you have scene ZP''s "review" of me2 now. made me laught more then this fellow.

It is true that he is only bringing up what has already been said, but the same thing can be said about many subjects like History and Literature. The thing with him though is that compared to the rest of his rant (no better word for it), those are the only logical points in his argument.

Also, I'd like to address your issue 16/17.

16. It came out of ME1, Bioware LISTENED to the fans. And many folks wanted to be able to play after the game "finished", either to go and finish quests they had missed or to simply go around chatting with folks. Many of the after-conversations are very entertaining.

17. Cheerleaders are heavily stereotyped in the world. Most Cheerleading teams take part in cheering competitions and in a way, is a sport of it's own. Also, I would imagine that American Football, Football(Soccer), Basketball, Wrestling and other sports are still around. And Cheerleaders do cheer at many of the middle/high school games. I highly doubt that by this time cheerleading would be gone. In fact I would think that there would be more males taking part in it. And if you by any chance ever studied the history of these games, you'd know that American Football has not really changed. Yes the safety standards and rules have changed, but the gameplay has remained the same. Heck, look at wrestling, that sport has been around since the time of the Greeks and hasn't changed much. And I mean the basics of REAL wrestling. Anyways, my point, I seriously doubt that in a hundred years there won't be cheerleaders.

ZennExile wrote...
Yer name is Turkeysock dude.  /fin

That really proves my point>.>

Modifié par Turkeysock, 19 février 2010 - 03:01 .

[ZennExile]

150 million is a bit more calculated than it might appear off the cuff without propper context.

Here's a hint though, I was talking about RPG fans and shooter fans in combination which is hundreds of millions of gamers around the world. But yeah I see yer point...

[tmelange]

KainrycKarr wrote...

ZennExile wrote...

Talogrungi wrote...

You have a couple of valid points, you've gone way off the deep end in the drama.
You should also probably be banned for #15.

Actually whoever approved the mission and wrote the story should be banned for it.  Not my fault it's packed full of racist overtones.  That's part of the reason it's so rediculous.  Read and process then respond.  Otherwise it's not even funny when you say stupid crap it's just tragic and sad. 

Funny how you're the ONLY person who thinks there are racist overtones.

LOL, actually, this was the first thing I thought when I got Jacob's mission: "Oh, so the black guy has to go find his absentee father,"  and when we got to the planet, I thought 3 things: 1) "Of course, the black guy can be first officer but isn't command potential;" 2) "Ah, so the black storyline is about slavery;" and 3) "Jacob looks nothing like his father. o.O His features are totally different. Do all black people look alike?"

Just flittered through my mind. Not casting aspersions or anything. I'm sure it was all innocuous. Like the way two of my four conversations with Jacob had to do with liquor...oh, wait...lol.

[Michoss]

First few points have a sense. Like, two, or three. The rest is just senseless raging around.

[ZennExile]

Turkeysock wrote...

xSolclaim wrote...

^ the only good points he brought up were points said 100 thousand times before, so no he shoulnt get credit for it, as well as the way he states it. BTW i assume all of you have scene ZP''s "review" of me2 now. made me laught more then this fellow.

It is true that he is only bringing up what has already been said, but the same thing can be said about many subjects like History and Literature. The thing with him though is that compared to the rest of his rant (no better word for it), those are the only logical points in his argument.

Also, I'd like to address your issue 16/17.

16. It came out of ME1, Bioware LISTENED to the fans. And many folks wanted to be able to play after the game "finished", either to go and finish quests they had missed or to simply go around chatting with folks. Many of the after-conversations are very entertaining.

17. Cheerleaders are heavily stereotyped in the world. Most Cheerleading teams take part in cheering competitions and in a way, is a sport of it's own. Also, I would imagine that American Football, Football(Soccer), Basketball, Wrestling and other sports are still around. And Cheerleaders do cheer at many of the middle/high school games. I highly doubt that by this time cheerleading would be gone. In fact I would think that there would be more males taking part in it. And if you by any chance ever studied the history of these games, you'd know that American Football has not really changed. Yes the safety standards and rules have changed, but the gameplay has remained the same. Heck, look at wrestling, that sport has been around since the time of the Greeks and hasn't changed much. And I mean the basics of REAL wrestling. Anyways, my point, I seriously doubt that in a hundred years there won't be cheerleaders.

I get it the idea behind compelling writing is appealing to your audience but ... really Cheerleader?  That's kinda pushing the envelope of laziness.  It is a hugely successful SciFi IP we are talking about here.  It's street cred comes from complex story telling and compelling psuedo realism.  Busting out the cheerleader comments is kinda benieth a studio like Bioware.  It's too easy.  Too... American...  it narrows the possible appeal way down even within the target audience and kinda dumbs the whole character down in my opinion.

But the cheerleader comment was a contribution as hinted to by the "Based on a real post by: name" part.  Everything in this list is more than what I am saying.  If I focused on my own perspective no one but me would understand any of it. 

[ZennExile]

tmelange wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

ZennExile wrote...

Talogrungi wrote...

You have a couple of valid points, you've gone way off the deep end in the drama.
You should also probably be banned for #15.

Actually whoever approved the mission and wrote the story should be banned for it.  Not my fault it's packed full of racist overtones.  That's part of the reason it's so rediculous.  Read and process then respond.  Otherwise it's not even funny when you say stupid crap it's just tragic and sad. 

Funny how you're the ONLY person who thinks there are racist overtones.

LOL, actually, this was the first thing I thought when I got Jacob's mission: "Oh, so the black guy has to go find his absentee father,"  and when we got to the planet, I thought 3 things: 1) "Of course, the black guy can be first officer but isn't command potential;" 2) "Ah, so the black storyline is about slavery;" and 3) "Jacob looks nothing like his father. o.O His features are totally different. Do all black people look alike?"

Just flittered through my mind. Not casting aspersions or anything. I'm sure it was all innocuous. Like the way two of my four conversations with Jacob had to do with liquor...oh, wait...lol.

Lmfao.  Seriously you get it.    smiley five!!

[ZennExile]

Turkeysock wrote...

xSolclaim wrote...

^ the only good points he brought up were points said 100 thousand times before, so no he shoulnt get credit for it, as well as the way he states it. BTW i assume all of you have scene ZP''s "review" of me2 now. made me laught more then this fellow.

It is true that he is only bringing up what has already been said, but the same thing can be said about many subjects like History and Literature. The thing with him though is that compared to the rest of his rant (no better word for it), those are the only logical points in his argument.

Also, I'd like to address your issue 16/17.

16. It came out of ME1, Bioware LISTENED to the fans. And many folks wanted to be able to play after the game "finished", either to go and finish quests they had missed or to simply go around chatting with folks. Many of the after-conversations are very entertaining.

17. Cheerleaders are heavily stereotyped in the world. Most Cheerleading teams take part in cheering competitions and in a way, is a sport of it's own. Also, I would imagine that American Football, Football(Soccer), Basketball, Wrestling and other sports are still around. And Cheerleaders do cheer at many of the middle/high school games. I highly doubt that by this time cheerleading would be gone. In fact I would think that there would be more males taking part in it. And if you by any chance ever studied the history of these games, you'd know that American Football has not really changed. Yes the safety standards and rules have changed, but the gameplay has remained the same. Heck, look at wrestling, that sport has been around since the time of the Greeks and hasn't changed much. And I mean the basics of REAL wrestling. Anyways, my point, I seriously doubt that in a hundred years there won't be cheerleaders.

ZennExile wrote...
Yer name is Turkeysock dude.  /fin

That really proves my point>.>

Actually yer name being Turkeysock is counter productive to any sort of "proof" or concept of "points".  But sure thing.... Turkeysock... 

[Aaren J]

As a black guy who enjoyed Jacob's loyalty mission, I have to say that I didn't find it racist at all.

[ZennExile]

Aaren J wrote...

As a black guy who enjoyed Jacob's loyalty mission, I have to say that I didn't find it racist at all.

You know Carlton from Fresh Prince was the last dark skinned fellah I heard say that phrase "black guy".  Just sayin.  Not gonna step on yer blackness or nothing here but... the use of that specific phrase is kinda contrary to yer point.

Oh and my roomate Kenyata says "***ah please.  ***ah's don't say "black guy" (add in sterotypical funny black guy impersonating a white guy voice... think cat williams)" 

And since yer on the internet and he's sitting 20 feet away from me mocking yer blackness... still.  I'm gonna have to lean towards his assessment of the situation.

Thanks for coming though. 

[Aaren J]

Riiiiight.......

[this isnt my name]

Umm thane/samara are tied in because you are recruiting a team, they are the best and have skills you need, therefore it ties in...Idiot.