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#26
hexhunter222

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Garrus is probably my most used team mate too, I've used him loads as Infiltrator, Vanguard and Adept. I used him lots as a Soldier in ME1 also. He's just really useful, he's one of the few characters you couldn't really replicate in Shepard. (maybe using Shield Drain you could get close)



Maybe he does die more often than the other characters though. :\\

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Garrus is largely useless on Insanity in favor of better characters like Miranda, Thane, Grunt, Legion, Samara with Reave, etc.

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apk117 wrote...

Garrus is largely useless on Insanity in favor of better characters like Miranda, Thane, Grunt, Legion, Samara with Reave, etc.


I only play on Insanity, and Garrus is in my party more than any of those characters who are all good and all have their roles to play in my game (except for Legion, I never use him except for his own mission...I'd rather kill Geth faster than control them).  Admittedly, Garrus' usefulness wanes towards the end of the game when youre fighting mostly armor and Collectors, but early to mid game, he's a staple.

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Using Garrus and his squad AP ammo while using an Infiltrator/Sentinel/Adept/Engineer is far, FAR from useless.



Nor have I had a problem with him dying, just order him to a nice spot and use the sniper rifle. Easy.

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Honestly, Garrus is one of the better squadmates but only after you unlock AP ammo. Same for alot of characters.



Part of the reason why alot of people rate Miranda and Grunt as numbers 1 and 2 mostly is due to their usefulness all game. Garrus ranks lower because even though his AP ammo rocks and he has concussive shot for removing barriers/limited CC, 1/3 of his skills are useless against the main enemy, collectors, which you run into alot more closer to the end of the game. He also lacks in survivability (though not as bad as miranda) and with the dumb AI of party members will die more often.

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VirtualAlex wrote...

Your opinion is false.


Well you know I don't mean to be a jerk so let me explain myself.

1. Overload, which is probably in the top three most useful abilities.
2. He can use sniper rifles, which is the perfect weapon for squadmates because they never seem to miss, and they spend most of their time reloading behind cover.
3. AP ammo is a very good skill
4. There isn't anything wrong with Concussive Blast. It's not an allstar but it does stagger and do damage.

Lets be serious here. It's impossible for him to be the least useful squadmate.

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I'm a soldier and I take Garrus with me most of the time. I don't know which squadmate I should be pairing with him though. Which one best compliments his and my abilities?

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El Benderino wrote...

I'm a soldier and I take Garrus with me most of the time. I don't know which squadmate I should be pairing with him though. Which one best compliments his and my abilities?


In my opinion you can't go wrong with Miranda.

Any biotic squadmate would do as well.

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Urazz wrote...

Honestly, Garrus is one of the better squadmates but only after you unlock AP ammo. Same for alot of characters.

Part of the reason why alot of people rate Miranda and Grunt as numbers 1 and 2 mostly is due to their usefulness all game. Garrus ranks lower because even though his AP ammo rocks and he has concussive shot for removing barriers/limited CC, 1/3 of his skills are useless against the main enemy, collectors, which you run into alot more closer to the end of the game. He also lacks in survivability (though not as bad as miranda) and with the dumb AI of party members will die more often.


Funny thing, Garrus actually becomes somewhat worse for me after he unlocks AP Ammo. I have Squad Cryo, and for some reason BW decided to make the AI change to their own ammo type every time there's a new enemy spawn. There's nothing wrong with AP Ammo, but I just like the Cryo effect better on my Vanguard and Garrus leaves me hanging there... Grunt, Jack, Jacob, Zaeed, and Thane off the top of my head do the same.

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I'm an Infiltrator always have Garrus and Tali with me, I like the fact the three of us get thru it all together, their comments are worth struggling a little!



Tho having said that i've never really "struggled" or noticed it being easier with others...

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IMO the only time your squamates matter is when you want to perform biotic combos, and when you are doing several key N7 missions.



Namely Save the Crates, and Save the Quarion on insanity.

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I do not use Garrus because of the bug where he will always overwrite a squad ammo with his own AP ammo. Other than that, he is actually pretty good, and quite cool too.

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I'm Commander Shepard and Garrus is my favorite team mate on the Citadel.

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Atmosfear3

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Garrus owns for one simple reason: he can use sniper rifles

Sniper rifles are the most powerful weapon any teammate can use.

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Jamin101 wrote...

garrus is one of my favorite characters but i wish i kept a chart tracking squad mate death. i swear 60% of my unity ability was on him, i dont know why though

Garrus and Miranda are the number ones when it comes to that.Miranda died even more and too much to become usefull.
And no,garrus isnt the best sniper.First is legion with the widow,then zaeed and thane with 50 percent weapon damage in their class talents.

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tonnactus:



"Best Sniper" isn't a very useful construct to be working with. Garrus functions best in any situation involving Shields as his Area Overload allows him to kill enemies quick and sets up for your own stuff at the same time. His +70% on all Health with Tungsten Ammo (and Armor, too) is fantastic. Thane is best against collectors because his Shredder Ammo really comes into its own vs. organics and his Warp allows him to clear past Barriers lickety-split. Legion is best against Geth and synthetics, but his use of Widow means that he just does ridiculous gun-based damage pretty much everywhere as long as you've got that upgraded. He's not functionally the most used for the entire game because he isn't all that available, generally speaking.

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Then took zaeed with heavy disruptor or squad disruptor.Good against shields too and high weapon damage.

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There is only one problem with Garrus as far as I'm concerned.



Legion is as good a sniper but with better survivability. My perfect sniper squad is always (Infiltrator) Shepard, Legion and Thane with squad shredder.



Garrus is one of my favourite characters in the ME universe, but his AI really lets him down ingame.

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The AI in Mass Effect 2 is just dreadful, i.e. Miranda standing on top of a crate unloading at stuff with her SMG. I can never count on my allies to stay alive for more than the first minute or so of a fight.

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As an adept or engineer, Garrus rarely leave my sight for most missions unless it's against bloodpack or collectors/husks.

Very strong overload (due to passive skill bonus), squad AP ammo, and concussive shot makes him a very versatile squad to use in any mission involving shields.



Him and Tali are the best combo for any mission involving blue suns squads, mechs, and geths for my engineer and adept.



As a vanguard, I always use Miranda, but I bring Garrus for missions involving blue suns (though I won't max his AP ammo as a vanguard).

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Sockwolf wrote...

There is only one problem with Garrus as far as I'm concerned.

Legion is as good a sniper but with better survivability. My perfect sniper squad is always (Infiltrator) Shepard, Legion and Thane with squad shredder.

Garrus is one of my favourite characters in the ME universe, but his AI really lets him down ingame.



I dont get the Legion comparisons.

1)First off, in an optimal game, you generally have Legion for a single mission (his own loyalty) before the suicide mission, if you want to rescue everyone without casualties.  You have Garrus all game.

2) Second, Area Overload by itself, and squad AP on top, are far and away more useful in a wider variety of situations than any of Legion's abilities.  Squadmate Combat drone is useless on Insanity( it doesnt even last long enough, fully upgraded to be an effective diversion...AI hacking makes a much better distraction), and while AI hacking is good against Geth, it would  be *better* to put together a squad with Zaeed and squad disruptor, to simply kill them faster rather than taking the time to play around with them.

And you know what makes AI hacking even better?  A character like Garrus, who has area overload, to instantly drop minion geth shields by the handful to expose them to hacking, or any number of even more useful insta kill abilities.

3) Survivability?  GSB? Not on insanity. He wont live any longer than Grunt with Fortification (less even) if left to run around  without management.  He night live a few seconds longer than Garrus, but if keeping your squad alive is important to you, you have to micro them...defensive abilities make very little difference when subject to the game's AI on insanity.

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Interestingly I find Legion useless so far as an adept or engineer compared to Tali - lack of energy drain really hurts him I think.

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El Benderino wrote...

I'm a soldier and I take Garrus with me most of the time. I don't know which squadmate I should be pairing with him though. Which one best compliments his and my abilities?

Thane or Samara,mordin when fighting bloodpack.All defenses are covered.I use garrus and zaeed on talis recruting mission what worked great too(zaeed with squad disruptor).He tends to die often,but miranda is the number one in this case.

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I think Garrus is an outstading team mate. His overload is stronger than Miranda, he got AP Ammo and a nice set of weapons.

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I think my favorite team is Garrus and Miranda.

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Also, he has a "Roman" Eagle in his arm!

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Arde5643 wrote...

Interestingly I find Legion useless so far as an adept or engineer compared to Tali - lack of energy drain really hurts him I think.

He is the only squadmember that could use the widow sniper rifle....
Use him with zaeed(squad disruptor) on shielded guys and enemies died like flies.