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[tiberius_adamantine]

EternalWolfe wrote...

tiberius_adamantine wrote...

4)You clearly don't have an eye for literary potential.

I'll explain this slowly - It will not affect the story in any notable way.  The mere fact you could NOT have a love intrest, the fact that your intrest could die, ect, will make sure that any baby will have ZERO impact on the main story.

The most your likely to get from this is a scene at the end of you and your love intrest holding the baby.  Your not going to get some huge changes in the story out of it, as that would be time and money better spent making content everyone would use, even other scenes within the story wouldn't have any real meaning - "Hey, I'm pregnant." - and then everything moves on with no regard to it.  The reason to put it in, then?  To please the people who not only romanced someone, but who want a hybrid child - fanservice.

Just to note: biological reproduction is out of the question - any attempt to justify it would be grasping at straws.  Most spieces would not be compatible at ALL, the Quarians(who have the most mystery around them) would be highly unlikely to be able to concieve with us, the chance of their DNA being close enough is zero for all practicality(choosing to say, "guess what, it is" would just be laziness on Bioware's part).

Bioengineering might be possible, but still has many complications, including the law, the difficulty of mixing two different species, and the fact that doing so would cause heavy reprisal from everyone(especially against the baby).

As my final point, please dont' spin this as "I think this could make a great story element'.  We both know the only reason you bring this up is your place in Tali's fandom.  This is about getting fanservice for you and those who think like you, not about making the story better.

My suggestion: Fanfics.  Its really your best bet.  On a personal note, I'm against it - because I don't think, with the current lore, that it should be possible.  Yes, Bioware can do whatever it wants, but this is my own personal opinon(sort of like your opinion that it should be possible).

With all due respect, I don't think you should be saying "this is what you're really trying to do". 
Yes I am a fan. So what? I shouldn't think that it is impossible to be a fan and work seriously
to address potential story elements. Regardless, I would address this issue. I see a good
potential and try to get others to see it too. You shouldn't try to belittle what I am trying to
accomplish.  Others could appreciate its value, even if they didn't pursue it themselves.

[EternalWolfe]

tiberius_adamantine wrote...

With all due respect, I don't think you should be saying "this is what you're really trying to do". 
Yes I am a fan. So what? I shouldn't think that it is impossible to be a fan and work seriously
to address potential story elements. Regardless, I would address this issue. I see a good
potential and try to get others to see it too. You shouldn't try to belittle what I am trying to
accomplish.  Others could appreciate its value, even if they didn't pursue it themselves.

I apologize, I got a little overzealous.  However, it doesn't have much potential for the story - like I said, the fact you could not have romanced anyone and that they could die would preclude the idea of it making an impact in the actual story.  I fully appreciate the basic idea, but I disagree that is should be possible.  Like I said, that part is opinion.

I wouldn't hold my breath if I were you though, as I seriously doubt Bioware is intending to put in babies at all, much less hybrids for the people who want them.

[Sn0wst0rm]

tiberius_adamantine wrote...

EternalWolfe wrote...

tiberius_adamantine wrote...

4)You clearly don't have an eye for literary potential.

I'll explain this slowly - It will not affect the story in any notable way.  The mere fact you could NOT have a love intrest, the fact that your intrest could die, ect, will make sure that any baby will have ZERO impact on the main story.

The most your likely to get from this is a scene at the end of you and your love intrest holding the baby.  Your not going to get some huge changes in the story out of it, as that would be time and money better spent making content everyone would use, even other scenes within the story wouldn't have any real meaning - "Hey, I'm pregnant." - and then everything moves on with no regard to it.  The reason to put it in, then?  To please the people who not only romanced someone, but who want a hybrid child - fanservice.

Just to note: biological reproduction is out of the question - any attempt to justify it would be grasping at straws.  Most spieces would not be compatible at ALL, the Quarians(who have the most mystery around them) would be highly unlikely to be able to concieve with us, the chance of their DNA being close enough is zero for all practicality(choosing to say, "guess what, it is" would just be laziness on Bioware's part).

Bioengineering might be possible, but still has many complications, including the law, the difficulty of mixing two different species, and the fact that doing so would cause heavy reprisal from everyone(especially against the baby).

As my final point, please dont' spin this as "I think this could make a great story element'.  We both know the only reason you bring this up is your place in Tali's fandom.  This is about getting fanservice for you and those who think like you, not about making the story better.

My suggestion: Fanfics.  Its really your best bet.  On a personal note, I'm against it - because I don't think, with the current lore, that it should be possible.  Yes, Bioware can do whatever it wants, but this is my own personal opinon(sort of like your opinion that it should be possible).

With all due respect, I don't think you should be saying "this is what you're really trying to do". 
Yes I am a fan. So what? I shouldn't think that it is impossible to be a fan and work seriously
to address potential story elements. Regardless, I would address this issue. I see a good
potential and try to get others to see it too. You shouldn't try to belittle what I am trying to
accomplish.  Others could appreciate its value, even if they didn't pursue it themselves.

Are you for real?

[Marilynn-22]

Modifié par Marilynn-22, 24 février 2010 - 06:27 .

[Uberpenguin7]

*sigh* Ok. I don't really want to do this, but the void in scientific knowledge is driving me insane. Here's a quick biochemistry lesson from a biology major:
Known Facts:
Humans, Krogan, Asari, Salarians: Levo-protein based.
Quarians, Turians: Dextro-protein based
Levo-protein beings cannot eat food based on dextro-protein and vice versa

This is really all the information that I need. Those two prefixes before protein mean that the proteins are constructed in reverse. They are mirrors of each other. Dextro (right) and Levo (left). Like your right and left hands. You can touch your hands together and they reflect each other but there is no way to twist your hands so that if you put one on top of the other, they will be facing the same direction. The same as with holding a glass, the finger prints left on the glass are going to be arranged differently with each hand (please don't pick apart the metaphor, you know what I mean).

The same holds true for proteins. Cells identify each other and their environment by inter-membrane proteins (proteins that are built into the membrane [read: wall] of the cell). There are sites on the outside of the cell for receiving chemicals (ions, other proteins, polymers what have you) and sites on the inside of the cell for the cell itself to read. When something binds with the protein, it changes shape and different things can bind to the other side, similar to adjusting your thermostat. It’s on the outside of the wall, you alter it, and it produces changes through the wall and downstairs in the A/C unit.

Now, let’s assume that the sets of amino acids are the same 21 types in both species, highly improbably but since the laws of chemistry don't change it's still possible. Now, let’s assume that the correct ratio of chemicals are the same in both species. So you can have a human and a Quarian that are literally identical when measured by %mass of elements. The only thing that would be different would be the shapes that the proteins take.

Interbreeding, even cellular communication would still be impossible.

In every biology class, the teacher should drill into your head- Form equals Function. This means that the shape of the molecule determines its function.

So, assuming mother quarian (Tali) tries to have a baby with human male (Shepard), the proteins that unbind DNA in order to replicate it wouldn’t recognize the binding sites on Shepard’s DNA and wouldn’t be able to unravel it. Quite possibly, the quarian egg wouldn’t even recognize the human sperm, and the sperms specialized chemicals that it uses to dig through the egg’s protective coating wouldn’t bind correctly. Literally, everything necessary for cellular division is different.

TLDR Version: You’re putting a square peg into a round hole.

Feel free to check my work and make sure that it's all correct. I had to break out my old bio-book for some of this so I'm sorry that it lacks proper references but I wasn't sure how to reference L & D-Helicase.

Modifié par Uberpenguin7, 24 février 2010 - 08:28 .

[Uberpenguin7]

One last note:
The ME universe seems extremely internally and externally consistent with science (baring the big plot related stuff like Element Zero and the mass effect). To maneuver around this by saying "The Devs will come up with an explaination" or "Bio-engineering" is a cop-out. They would be destroying the very style of their story and ruining the sense of immersion that is so very possible in Mass Effect.
Yes, a hybrid child would be compelling. There are plenty of ethical and legal quandaries involved in it. Children evoke a huge amount of emotion and people are able to connect with the characters that want to protect them.
But to toss science to the wind and say 'Damn the consequences' would break the unity of story that they have created for themselves. Story telling isn't just about good plot, or good characters. It's also about making sure that everything fits properly and a hybrid child would be like tearing all the stickers off of a rubick's cube and putting them on so all the colors match. Yeah, the colors are all together, but it looks broken.

http://knowyourmeme.....jpg?1255981582

Modifié par Uberpenguin7, 24 février 2010 - 08:54 .

[Soruyao]

What is this I don't even...



This.. I.. I don't... What? I... but...

[ElizabethDeLoria]

If Bioware puts a hybrid child in ME3 I will eat my hat and let them document it. Honest to god. They can hold me to this.

[tanarri23]

I guess something like an asari-human or turian-quarian hybrid* could be genetically engineered, but the reverse chirality of human and quarian amino acids means no hybrids possible. Ever. Not even with genetic engineering.

*by hybrid I don't mean 50-50, which is extremely unlikely to be viable, but more like an individual that for all purposes looks like species A having a few genes from species B , whose effects are visible only on the biochemical level

Modifié par tanarri23, 24 février 2010 - 09:15 .

[Pannamaslo]

Not better and not worse biological BS from what I saw in ME universe. Not worse (or equally implausible) than Asari "reproduction" or some Mordins comments. Still - ME NOT WANT -.

Potential for a story though...

Modifié par Pannamaslo, 24 février 2010 - 09:48 .

[tiberius_adamantine]

Uberpenguin7 wrote...

*sigh* Ok. I don't really want to do this, but the void in scientific knowledge is driving me insane. Here's a quick biochemistry lesson from a biology major:
Known Facts:
Humans, Krogan, Asari, Salarians: Levo-protein based.
Quarians, Turians: Dextro-protein based
Levo-protein beings cannot eat food based on dextro-protein and vice versa

This is really all the information that I need. Those two prefixes before protein mean that the proteins are constructed in reverse. They are mirrors of each other. Dextro (right) and Levo (left). Like your right and left hands. You can touch your hands together and they reflect each other but there is no way to twist your hands so that if you put one on top of the other, they will be facing the same direction. The same as with holding a glass, the finger prints left on the glass are going to be arranged differently with each hand (please don't pick apart the metaphor, you know what I mean).

The same holds true for proteins. Cells identify each other and their environment by inter-membrane proteins (proteins that are built into the membrane [read: wall] of the cell). There are sites on the outside of the cell for receiving chemicals (ions, other proteins, polymers what have you) and sites on the inside of the cell for the cell itself to read. When something binds with the protein, it changes shape and different things can bind to the other side, similar to adjusting your thermostat. It’s on the outside of the wall, you alter it, and it produces changes through the wall and downstairs in the A/C unit.

Now, let’s assume that the sets of amino acids are the same 21 types in both species, highly improbably but since the laws of chemistry don't change it's still possible. Now, let’s assume that the correct ratio of chemicals are the same in both species. So you can have a human and a Quarian that are literally identical when measured by %mass of elements. The only thing that would be different would be the shapes that the proteins take.

Interbreeding, even cellular communication would still be impossible.

In every biology class, the teacher should drill into your head- Form equals Function. This means that the shape of the molecule determines its function.

So, assuming mother quarian (Tali) tries to have a baby with human male (Shepard), the proteins that unbind DNA in order to replicate it wouldn’t recognize the binding sites on Shepard’s DNA and wouldn’t be able to unravel it. Quite possibly, the quarian egg wouldn’t even recognize the human sperm, and the sperms specialized chemicals that it uses to dig through the egg’s protective coating wouldn’t bind correctly. Literally, everything necessary for cellular division is different.

TLDR Version: You’re putting a square peg into a round hole.

Feel free to check my work and make sure that it's all correct. I had to break out my old bio-book for some of this so I'm sorry that it lacks proper references but I wasn't sure how to reference L & D-Helicase.

You make a good point. That goes against my theory some but regardless, thank you for
actually explaining your position. I still think there is a way to make this work, so I'm going
to do some research and look for an answer.

Modifié par tiberius_adamantine, 25 février 2010 - 03:19 .

[Sphaerus]

I've skimmed this thread and I'm more than a little unnerved.

[Sith_exar_kun]

Can i laugh? this topic is...don't know...hilarious!

I really love Tali! I'm a huge fan of her but...a quarian/human child? Lol!

Come on!

[Uberpenguin7]

Sphaerus wrote...

I've skimmed this thread and I'm more than a little unnerved.

I'm more unnerved by the fact that my 'Unity of Effect' comment got ignored. I thought that was more important than the biology lesson.

[ManBearPig91]

my eyes are bleeding. Someone develop the Tali-phage quick so a Tali fan may never again unleash this horror on the forums.

[A Disgruntled C-Sec Officer]

I have to agree with Uberpenguin7 that's just not Bioware's style, trying to come up with an excuse for that just seems like too much trouble for a small thing such as this.

[Lord Atlia]

The one thing we do know is that it is plausible enough that the council outlawed it. If it was entirely impossible there would be no reason to make laws against it. Both Grunt and Miranda were built, as were the Collectors and keepers. Quarians have a weak immune system as is and probably the best way to rectify this quickly is to graft another species immune system in place of where the quarians is. Whether this is possible or not I haven't the faintest but remember the Reapers have tens of thousands of years of tech so maybe they found a way, I mean they did find FTL travel. Anyway I don't think hybrids are possible in a sense that you take a human and a cat and make a humancat, but I have a feeling there might be the tech to make a human with a cat like tail.

[cos1ne]

Lord Atlia wrote...
but I have a feeling there might be the tech to make a human with a cat like tail.

*smacks nose with newspaper*

BAD! VERY BAD! NO! JUST NO!

Do not even suggest such a thing in the Mass Effect universe.*


*not directed entirely at you but the fallout from all the fanboys/fangirls of this suggestion will utterly tax my own sanity.

[Sn0wst0rm]

tiberius_adamantine wrote...

Uberpenguin7 wrote...

*sigh* Ok. I don't really want to do this, but the void in scientific knowledge is driving me insane. Here's a quick biochemistry lesson from a biology major:
Known Facts:
Humans, Krogan, Asari, Salarians: Levo-protein based.
Quarians, Turians: Dextro-protein based
Levo-protein beings cannot eat food based on dextro-protein and vice versa

This is really all the information that I need. Those two prefixes before protein mean that the proteins are constructed in reverse. They are mirrors of each other. Dextro (right) and Levo (left). Like your right and left hands. You can touch your hands together and they reflect each other but there is no way to twist your hands so that if you put one on top of the other, they will be facing the same direction. The same as with holding a glass, the finger prints left on the glass are going to be arranged differently with each hand (please don't pick apart the metaphor, you know what I mean).

The same holds true for proteins. Cells identify each other and their environment by inter-membrane proteins (proteins that are built into the membrane [read: wall] of the cell). There are sites on the outside of the cell for receiving chemicals (ions, other proteins, polymers what have you) and sites on the inside of the cell for the cell itself to read. When something binds with the protein, it changes shape and different things can bind to the other side, similar to adjusting your thermostat. It’s on the outside of the wall, you alter it, and it produces changes through the wall and downstairs in the A/C unit.

Now, let’s assume that the sets of amino acids are the same 21 types in both species, highly improbably but since the laws of chemistry don't change it's still possible. Now, let’s assume that the correct ratio of chemicals are the same in both species. So you can have a human and a Quarian that are literally identical when measured by %mass of elements. The only thing that would be different would be the shapes that the proteins take.

Interbreeding, even cellular communication would still be impossible.

In every biology class, the teacher should drill into your head- Form equals Function. This means that the shape of the molecule determines its function.

So, assuming mother quarian (Tali) tries to have a baby with human male (Shepard), the proteins that unbind DNA in order to replicate it wouldn’t recognize the binding sites on Shepard’s DNA and wouldn’t be able to unravel it. Quite possibly, the quarian egg wouldn’t even recognize the human sperm, and the sperms specialized chemicals that it uses to dig through the egg’s protective coating wouldn’t bind correctly. Literally, everything necessary for cellular division is different.

TLDR Version: You’re putting a square peg into a round hole.

Feel free to check my work and make sure that it's all correct. I had to break out my old bio-book for some of this so I'm sorry that it lacks proper references but I wasn't sure how to reference L & D-Helicase.

I have to commend you. You seem to have fired a well placed shot, not critical but still impressive.
I may not have an answer on the top of my head, but I'm sure there is one. Given a little time I will
find something to make it work. I think we both know there is more to it than this.  It's too bad you're
against me on this, your help would be appreciated. Regardless, I'll get back to you on that.

This is exactly what I have been talking about. It absolutely is a "critical shot" to your "arguement". I place arguement in quotes because all that you care about is having a hybrid kid as part of the plot, and discount the established facts in the ME Universe that directly oppose this happening. Then when people provide this evidence to the contrary, you discount everything they say.

Modifié par Sn0wst0rm, 25 février 2010 - 01:49 .

[tiberius_adamantine]

Sn0wst0rm wrote...

tiberius_adamantine wrote...

Uberpenguin7 wrote...

*sigh* Ok. I don't really want to do this, but the void in scientific knowledge is driving me insane. Here's a quick biochemistry lesson from a biology major:
Known Facts:
Humans, Krogan, Asari, Salarians: Levo-protein based.
Quarians, Turians: Dextro-protein based
Levo-protein beings cannot eat food based on dextro-protein and vice versa

This is really all the information that I need. Those two prefixes before protein mean that the proteins are constructed in reverse. They are mirrors of each other. Dextro (right) and Levo (left). Like your right and left hands. You can touch your hands together and they reflect each other but there is no way to twist your hands so that if you put one on top of the other, they will be facing the same direction. The same as with holding a glass, the finger prints left on the glass are going to be arranged differently with each hand (please don't pick apart the metaphor, you know what I mean).

The same holds true for proteins. Cells identify each other and their environment by inter-membrane proteins (proteins that are built into the membrane [read: wall] of the cell). There are sites on the outside of the cell for receiving chemicals (ions, other proteins, polymers what have you) and sites on the inside of the cell for the cell itself to read. When something binds with the protein, it changes shape and different things can bind to the other side, similar to adjusting your thermostat. It’s on the outside of the wall, you alter it, and it produces changes through the wall and downstairs in the A/C unit.

Now, let’s assume that the sets of amino acids are the same 21 types in both species, highly improbably but since the laws of chemistry don't change it's still possible. Now, let’s assume that the correct ratio of chemicals are the same in both species. So you can have a human and a Quarian that are literally identical when measured by %mass of elements. The only thing that would be different would be the shapes that the proteins take.

Interbreeding, even cellular communication would still be impossible.

In every biology class, the teacher should drill into your head- Form equals Function. This means that the shape of the molecule determines its function.

So, assuming mother quarian (Tali) tries to have a baby with human male (Shepard), the proteins that unbind DNA in order to replicate it wouldn’t recognize the binding sites on Shepard’s DNA and wouldn’t be able to unravel it. Quite possibly, the quarian egg wouldn’t even recognize the human sperm, and the sperms specialized chemicals that it uses to dig through the egg’s protective coating wouldn’t bind correctly. Literally, everything necessary for cellular division is different.

TLDR Version: You’re putting a square peg into a round hole.

Feel free to check my work and make sure that it's all correct. I had to break out my old bio-book for some of this so I'm sorry that it lacks proper references but I wasn't sure how to reference L & D-Helicase.

I have to commend you. You seem to have fired a well placed shot, not critical but still impressive.
I may not have an answer on the top of my head, but I'm sure there is one. Given a little time I will
find something to make it work. I think we both know there is more to it than this.  It's too bad you're
against me on this, your help would be appreciated. Regardless, I'll get back to you on that.

This is exactly what I have been talking about. It absolutely is a "critical shot" to your "arguement". I place arguement in quotes because all that you care about is having a hybrid kid as part of the plot, and discount the established facts in the ME Universe that directly oppose this happening. Then when people provide this evidence to the contrary, you discount everything they say.

Sorry, hate to point this out to you, but this ISN'T  what you were talking about. I think it is distasteful for you to try and claim credit for someone else's work. You didn't present this, he did. I am not discounting evidence to the contrary, in fact I addressed many issues people brought up previously, and will gladly do so again. He may make a good point about the amino acids, I'm still looking in to that. Regardless of his point, there is still likely a way to make it work. I will look for it but for now, I admit he makes a good point.

[Sn0wst0rm]

tiberius_adamantine wrote...

Sn0wst0rm wrote...

tiberius_adamantine wrote...

Uberpenguin7 wrote...

*sigh* Ok. I don't really want to do this, but the void in scientific knowledge is driving me insane. Here's a quick biochemistry lesson from a biology major:
Known Facts:
Humans, Krogan, Asari, Salarians: Levo-protein based.
Quarians, Turians: Dextro-protein based
Levo-protein beings cannot eat food based on dextro-protein and vice versa

This is really all the information that I need. Those two prefixes before protein mean that the proteins are constructed in reverse. They are mirrors of each other. Dextro (right) and Levo (left). Like your right and left hands. You can touch your hands together and they reflect each other but there is no way to twist your hands so that if you put one on top of the other, they will be facing the same direction. The same as with holding a glass, the finger prints left on the glass are going to be arranged differently with each hand (please don't pick apart the metaphor, you know what I mean).

The same holds true for proteins. Cells identify each other and their environment by inter-membrane proteins (proteins that are built into the membrane [read: wall] of the cell). There are sites on the outside of the cell for receiving chemicals (ions, other proteins, polymers what have you) and sites on the inside of the cell for the cell itself to read. When something binds with the protein, it changes shape and different things can bind to the other side, similar to adjusting your thermostat. It’s on the outside of the wall, you alter it, and it produces changes through the wall and downstairs in the A/C unit.

Now, let’s assume that the sets of amino acids are the same 21 types in both species, highly improbably but since the laws of chemistry don't change it's still possible. Now, let’s assume that the correct ratio of chemicals are the same in both species. So you can have a human and a Quarian that are literally identical when measured by %mass of elements. The only thing that would be different would be the shapes that the proteins take.

Interbreeding, even cellular communication would still be impossible.

In every biology class, the teacher should drill into your head- Form equals Function. This means that the shape of the molecule determines its function.

So, assuming mother quarian (Tali) tries to have a baby with human male (Shepard), the proteins that unbind DNA in order to replicate it wouldn’t recognize the binding sites on Shepard’s DNA and wouldn’t be able to unravel it. Quite possibly, the quarian egg wouldn’t even recognize the human sperm, and the sperms specialized chemicals that it uses to dig through the egg’s protective coating wouldn’t bind correctly. Literally, everything necessary for cellular division is different.

TLDR Version: You’re putting a square peg into a round hole.

Feel free to check my work and make sure that it's all correct. I had to break out my old bio-book for some of this so I'm sorry that it lacks proper references but I wasn't sure how to reference L & D-Helicase.

I have to commend you. You seem to have fired a well placed shot, not critical but still impressive.
I may not have an answer on the top of my head, but I'm sure there is one. Given a little time I will
find something to make it work. I think we both know there is more to it than this.  It's too bad you're
against me on this, your help would be appreciated. Regardless, I'll get back to you on that.

This is exactly what I have been talking about. It absolutely is a "critical shot" to your "arguement". I place arguement in quotes because all that you care about is having a hybrid kid as part of the plot, and discount the established facts in the ME Universe that directly oppose this happening. Then when people provide this evidence to the contrary, you discount everything they say.

Sorry, hate to point this out to you, but this ISN'T  what you were talking about. I think it is distasteful for you to try and claim credit for someone else's work. You didn't present this, he did. I am not discounting evidence to the contrary, in fact I addressed many issues people brought up previously, and will gladly do so again. He may make a good point about the amino acids, I'm still looking in to that. Regardless of his point, there is still likely a way to make it work. I will look for it but for now, I admit he makes a good point.

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/103/index/1299220/5#1401384

Actually, it is what I have been talking about. Im glad that he had the time to educate you further, was hoping that it wouldnt be necessary. I never took credit for his post. Also, what he presented to you about amino acids is exactly why it won't work, and there is no way around that.

Modifié par Sn0wst0rm, 25 février 2010 - 02:26 .

[tiberius_adamantine]

Sn0wst0rm wrote...

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/103/index/1299220/5#1401384

Actually, it is what I have been talking about. Im glad that he had the time to educate you further, was hoping that it wouldnt be necessary. I never took credit for his post. Also, what he presented to you about amino acids is exactly why it won't work, and there is no way around that.

All you did was state what was already known. Everyone knows about there
being different amino acids. However, when asked to justify your claim, you couldn't.
You think that I'm ignoring the facts, I am not. I will try to find a way to explain to the
"science" people how this could work. However, I don't think you should ignore
the devices in the game that could make this work.

Modifié par tiberius_adamantine, 25 février 2010 - 04:58 .

[tiberius_adamantine]

While I'm still researching into this, I might as well ask this. Whether this will be legal or not in the ME universe is beside the point for now. Would it be possible to determine beforehand the genetics that the hybrid child should have and then add and subtract the necessary genetic material from the reproductive material of the parents to allow for the fusion?

Modifié par tiberius_adamantine, 25 février 2010 - 03:02 .

[Sn0wst0rm]

tiberius_adamantine wrote...

Sn0wst0rm wrote...

social.bioware.com/forum/1/topic/103/index/1299220/5#1401384

Actually, it is what I have been talking about. Im glad that he had the time to educate you further, was hoping that it wouldnt be necessary. I never took credit for his post. Also, what he presented to you about amino acids is exactly why it won't work, and there is no way around that.

All you did was state was state what was already known. Everyone knows about there
being different amino acids. However, when asked to justify your claim, you couldn't.
You think that I'm ignoring the facts, I am not. I will try to find a way to explain to the
"science" people how this could work. However, I don't think you should ignore
the devices in the game that could make this work.

If you cannot relate what he wrote to what I said you either recieved a poor education, or have an IQ worthy of sterilization.

Modifié par Sn0wst0rm, 25 février 2010 - 04:29 .

[Sn0wst0rm]

tiberius_adamantine wrote...

While I'm still researching
into this, I might as well ask this. Whether this will be legal or not
in the ME universe is beside the point for now. Would it be possible to
determine beforehand the genetics that the hybrid child should have and
then add and subtract the necessary genetic material from the
reproductive material of the parents to allow for the fusion?

Short answer: No.

Modifié par Sn0wst0rm, 25 février 2010 - 04:38 .