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[Vatheras]

The other races have one major advantage over the Reapaters. Rapid reproduction. We've seen the Reaper reproductive process. It takes a very long time. And based apon ME1, even with the suprise attack on the Citadel, it took them centuries to completely erradicate the Protheans. You make it sound like both forces will meet in one large battle, winner take all. The battleplan is attrition. Meet them at the point of incursion. Bleed them, blow the mass relay on your way out. Rinse, wash, repeat. All shipyards in full scale war production.

[Jake71887]

Vatheras wrote...

The other races have one major advantage over the Reapaters. Rapid reproduction. We've seen the Reaper reproductive process. It takes a very long time. And based apon ME1, even with the suprise attack on the Citadel, it took them centuries to completely erradicate the Protheans. You make it sound like both forces will meet in one large battle, winner take all. The battleplan is attrition. Meet them at the point of incursion. Bleed them, blow the mass relay on your way out. Rinse, wash, repeat. All shipyards in full scale war production.

We're talking about the plot of ME3, kind of has a shorter timeline. 

[Harcken]

I highly doubt it will be actually, for lame reasons... it would be too much work. Bioware has shown that their idea of consequence is an email here or just a model swap there. They won't base the game around recruiting the rachni or krogan in main missions as half the players don't even have rachni or krogan. Instead, at the final battle, if you saved the rachni you'll see some bugs flying about, and that's about it.

I have a feeling the main story arc will be about finding the true origins of the reapers in order to find their weakness; then unveiling some ancient thingamabob that ends up destroying them or reprogramming them for good.

[Forsakerr]

in the citadel fight only a portion of ships were there , since it was sudden only the ships who were physicaly there jumped in the fight and Saren had cuted the relays , you had to re activate them so an alliance fleet could come help ,if all the citadel's races joined up there would be way more ships into the fight add to that the rachnii (who some ships were spotted in my game) plus the geth , the Quarians and the Krogans it s going to be a very big flottilla

[The Angry One]

If all else fails BioWare can take the Galactic Civilzations "We really ran out of ideas" route and make it so that humans invented the Reapers in the first place, who went back in time millions of years to start this whole cycle. So Shep finds all the Reaper backdoor codes and makes them eat each other!

[Jake71887]

The Angry One wrote...

If all else fails BioWare can take the Galactic Civilzations "We really ran out of ideas" route and make it so that humans invented the Reapers in the first place, who went back in time millions of years to start this whole cycle. So Shep finds all the Reaper backdoor codes and makes them eat each other!

Well, Shepard does love the backdoor 

[mundus66]

Archereon wrote...

If your enemy is a race thousands of years more advanced than you, and he outnumbers you, your screwed.

Go watch Avatar =D. And no they don't outnumber the joint forces of the milky way i don't think. But 1 reaper was enough to own the whole citadel fleet until they got reinforcements from the alliance.

[GenericPlayer2]

Even if you played and enjoyed Dragon Age, does anyone want that sustained feeling of deja vu when buying a new game?



I have been paying attention to the game, but you can kill the rachni queen, you can destroy the genophage data, you can fragment the Migrant fleet, you can hand Legion over to Cerberus and do nothing about the Heretics.

[aaniadyen]

Fayerielle wrote...

While having new squadmates is very interesting, it would somewhat "blow" if 80% of the game consisted of recruiting. It would be nice to see something unique and different. Just my 2 cents.

I'm glad 80% of the game was recruiting. The main plot sucked, the characters were the only thing that made this game worthwhile.

[ZennExile]

Dragon Age in space would be better than a Gear of War mod with no vehicles and half the plot.

[Ajspeed]

I cant really say cause i havent played Dragon Age but when ME Came out I thought its just KOTOR With out all the star wars stuff

[The Angry One]

mundus66 wrote...

Go watch Avatar =D. And no they don't outnumber the joint forces of the milky way i don't think.

Not the best of comparisons, if the humans in Avatar wanted the natives dead, I mean really dead like how Reapers want us dead, then they'd be dead. Nukes and asteroids away!

But 1 reaper was enough to own the whole citadel fleet until they got reinforcements from the alliance.

One Reaper plus a Geth fleet.
A Geth fleet so substantial that the "Heretics" became a rather insignificant threat after it's defeat.

[WillieStyle]

Jake71887 wrote...

WillieStyle wrote...
You're probably one of those kids who was shocked when [Saturday Morning Cartoon Villain] gets his ass kicked minutes after cackling about his invincibility.

Seems like you're the type of person who probably contemplated suicide after Spiderman accidentally killed his GF. <_<

Lies! Peter would never hurt Mary Jane... NEVER!

[Serevir]

Let's not forget that Shepard still lacks a way to actually unite the galaxy and obviously if the reapers surprise "us" or attack us individually then "we're" boned

[Jake71887]

WillieStyle wrote...

Lies! Peter would never hurt Mary Jane... NEVER!

You mean Gwen Stacy 

[The Angry One]

WillieStyle wrote...

Lies! Peter would never hurt Mary Jane... NEVER!

Nah he'd just make a deal with Satan to never be married to her.

[The Angry One]

Serevir wrote...

Let's not forget that Shepard still lacks a way to actually unite the galaxy and obviously if the reapers surprise "us" or attack us individually then "we're" boned

It'll turn out the Spectres have these treaties....

[Ajspeed]

Serevir wrote...

Let's not forget that Shepard still lacks a way to actually unite the galaxy and obviously if the reapers surprise "us" or attack us individually then "we're" boned

Shepard can rally the humans as hes like humanities greatest Icon, Wrex if still alive can assist you with the Krogan, Legion with the Geth, Tali Maybe or Maybe not with the Quarians, Zaeeds an old Blue Suns boss im sure he could pull some Strings, Cerebrus's Goals wouldnt have changed so im sure for survival theyd stick with shepard, the Rachni also. So yeah shepard has quite abit that he can unite

[WillieStyle]

KainrycKarr wrote...

Archereon wrote...

KainrycKarr wrote...

By the way, Avatar isn't Pocahontas, it's Dances With Wolves(In Space).

Have you even seen that failblog Avatar/Pocahontas script?

The similarity is almost embarassing seeing as my father works in the film industry (rigging electrician, stays miles away from Cameron's work.)


MIka: Only the writers know all of the secrets of the ME universe, and I'm sure they have a plan to deal with it.  What I'm hoping is that they don't go back on their lore of the Reapers being unstoppable if they are able to reach the galaxy.  Mass Effect deserves something better than DA:O 's story in space.

Watch Dances with Wolves, then watch Avatar. It is the same f***in' movie, with different graphics.

Normally i LOVE Cameron films(See Terminator, Aliens) but while Avatar wasn't bad....the story was so godawfully predictible and filled with obnoxious cliches.

Meh!
The Dirty Dozen is just Seven Samurai.
West Side Story is just Romeo and Juliet.
The Lion King is just Hamlet.
Ulysses is just The Odyssey.

Originality is overrated.

[nenri]

GenericPlayer2 wrote...

I have been paying attention to the game, but you can kill the rachni queen, you can destroy the genophage data, you can fragment the Migrant fleet, you can hand Legion over to Cerberus and do nothing about the Heretics.

that's assuming those decisions lead to getting you a specific allegiance. Except for saving the Rachni, these paths taken are too vague to assure they wil lead to a peculiar outcome or its opposite, whether 'tis the krogan or the true geth following you.

For example, what if curing the Genophage gets you the Krogan but alienates the Salarians ? You just lost the space KGB by getting Space Sparta. And with the war between the quarians and the geth coming, rewriting the heretics might mean that "largest fleet in the galaxy" will be quite reduced when you will call Admiral Tali for her help against the reapers. Now add even more decisions in ME3 to complement what you already set up in ME1 and 2....

Getting the allegiance of different factions works in the style of the mass effect series : ME1 was about gathering understanding and ME2  loyalty. Now that doesn't mean the galactic alliance under patton Shepard will destroy the reaper fleet. ME and ME2 always had a mcGuffin for shepard, a convenient visible goal to be grabbed on foot. They can go very LOTR : Getting allegiance from the galactic factions will be a type of last stand; they all know they will all be destroyed, it's a useless fight, their only hope is to resist just enough hours for Shepard to do his thing.

I, for one, find this story structure, on the Mass effect scale, rife with potential excitement.   

[Lord_Nikon]

nenri wrote...

GenericPlayer2 wrote...

I have been paying attention to the game, but you can kill the rachni queen, you can destroy the genophage data, you can fragment the Migrant fleet, you can hand Legion over to Cerberus and do nothing about the Heretics.

that's assuming those decisions lead to getting you a specific allegiance. Except for saving the Rachni, these paths taken are too vague to assure they wil lead to a peculiar outcome or its opposite, whether 'tis the krogan or the true geth following you.

For example, what if curing the Genophage gets you the Krogan but alienates the Salarians ? You just lost the space KGB by getting Space Sparta. And with the war between the quarians and the geth coming, rewriting the heretics might mean that "largest fleet in the galaxy" will be quite reduced when you will call Admiral Tali for her help against the reapers. Now add even more decisions in ME3 to complement what you already set up in ME1 and 2....

Getting the allegiance of different factions works in the style of the mass effect series : ME1 was about gathering understanding and ME2  loyalty. Now that doesn't mean the galactic alliance under patton Shepard will destroy the reaper fleet. ME and ME2 always had a mcGuffin for shepard, a convenient visible goal to be grabbed on foot. They can go very LOTR : Getting allegiance from the galactic factions will be a type of last stand; they all know they will all be destroyed, it's a useless fight, their only hope is to resist just enough hours for Shepard to do his thing.

I, for one, find this story structure, on the Mass effect scale, rife with potential excitement.   

I concur,  the stroy as has been set up is going to blow us away, think LOTR + Choices as to how **** went down.

[The Angry One]

Actually the Quarians are another variant since you can tell them to back down on their little war, and everyone listens to Shep except you-know-who, and like I said you'll probably putting an end to Admiral Morrigan's evil plans in ME3.

[Vatheras]

Jake71887 wrote...

Vatheras wrote...

The other races have one major advantage over the Reapaters. Rapid reproduction. We've seen the Reaper reproductive process. It takes a very long time. And based apon ME1, even with the suprise attack on the Citadel, it took them centuries to completely erradicate the Protheans. You make it sound like both forces will meet in one large battle, winner take all. The battleplan is attrition. Meet them at the point of incursion. Bleed them, blow the mass relay on your way out. Rinse, wash, repeat. All shipyards in full scale war production.

We're talking about the plot of ME3, kind of has a shorter timeline. 

Not necessarily. We have no confirmation on the gap in time between two and three. Also, they've stated we'll be able to import characters. Which means there's a serious issue for people who died in the last mission. There may well be a large gap in time, and Shepard might not even be the main character. Could be a stand in as an Admiral in some final epic battle if you saved him. Or someone like Hackett if you didn't.

[Speakeasy13]

Jake71887 wrote...

Fayerielle wrote...

While having new squadmates is very interesting, it would somewhat "blow" if 80% of the game consisted of recruiting. It would be nice to see something unique and different. Just my 2 cents.

That's what ME2 was and it was pretty fun 

I agree with you about ME2 being fun, except that I wouldn't wanna do it ALL OVER again in ME3.

ME2 was supposed to be the build-up to the fight. Having to do another round of recruiting would feel like ME2 never happened. I've already have my perfect team sans Wrex, now I'm just eager to get on the fight.

Plus, ME2 has very little of the main story arc going. As engaging as each squad member's backstory was, it's about time we got down to business.

[The Angry One]

It's already confirmed that Shep is the main char of ME3.

Shep dying in ME2 means you don't get to use that save in ME3.