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Really, No Outcry for a Batarian?


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I was kinda hoping for a Volus Biotic God squadmate. Errr... maybe.

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I think I came up a relatively decent conversation between Shepard and a Batarian crew member... I am just too lazy to write out a dialogue script though....

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Madecologist wrote...

I think I came up a relatively decent conversation between Shepard and a Batarian crew member... I am just too lazy to write out a dialogue script though....


Batarian Squadmate: <nods> Shepard...
Shepard: You look like the **** that gunned down my parents...

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I like the Batarians as seedy underworld and political terrorists. I don't wanta be their friends. Not every race needs to an ally - we need good enemies and that is what Batarians are.

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Neofelis Nebulosa wrote...

Dr. Peter Venkman wrote...

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Eh, there are nice ones. But most of the ones you meet are intent on killing you, this does not leave me with a good impression of their race. (not that the slaving/blowing-up-stuff part did.) Sure, I'd go for a Batarian squad-mate, but I'd rather an Elcor or Volus first :)

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They're hateful, ugleh and downright rubbish.

I'd rather have an Elcor, Volus, Hanar and Varren as squadmates than a bloody Batarian.

They're scum, the lot of 'em. Attempting to usurp our rights to colonize the Skyllian Verge, going crying to the Council that the big bad human race was stealing their planetary loots, emo-quitting the citadel and severing ties when they didn't get their own way and then funding criminal reactionary attacks against human settlements using banned WMDs (such as asteroid-dropping) .

Scum! .. I have enough scum on my team, thanks.


^^This Pretty much

Also, on Omega theres a news report when the Batarians are QQ'in over the council "infringing their rights" and crippling their economy but stopping them from slaving.....yea cus Batarians sound like potential for a new teammate........Right.Posted Image

100% of Batarians met were complete D-Bags anyway

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scyphozoa wrote...

Yeah it seems like people are really into roleplaying as racists.

I agree with you Icinix, the Batarians you encounter in the slums of Omega are not all terrible. If anything, their perspectives were like the racists on these forums, dismissing the entire species of humanity because they had a bad first impression of them.


That is hardly a fair assessment. There is good and bad in every species including the four-eyes but when you run the numbers practcally EVERY baterian you meet either insults you or tries to kil you. -- It would not surpries me if ME3 includes a mission where you have to save one of their colonies or Cities from Cerberus or some other extremist human out for payback ... no matter how SHEP might personally feel about them If they are willing to fight the Reaper threat then they will be needed.

The way things are now the Hemongeny are no doubt thinking they can ride out the Reaper Massacre by staying on the sidelines and letting the rest of the galaxy burn.     

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omgwtfbbqhax wrote...

100% of Batarians met were complete D-Bags anyway


The two guards of Aria are not too bad and if you have Zaeed with you the Blue Sun Merc leader mellows out. Cafka is also quite personable. Heck even if you extort the Aria guard for the Ish mission, he still tanks you after. Heck even in Bring down the Sky, if you socialize the Batarian Lt, he is pretty pragmatic and reasonable.

People forget, humanity is not hat well loved either. We freakin show up, start seeding every bloody planet we find. Build up a space fleet faster than the Turians can take a double take and go "what?". Then demand priviliages other races took centuries to achieve just because we have this oversized sense of Galactic entitlement.

Sure we are not slavers and we mostly behave. Why the Council sided with us in the Skylian Verge (well they sided with no one, but we were beating the Batarians and the Council said they won't get involved. Effectively handing us the region: trust me, that is a political siding with us. Keeping their hands clean).

People forget the Galaxy are full of jerks. The Turians were about to throw the might of their fleet after Shanxi. If the Asari did not step in, we would have been in trouble. Since back then we did not have the numbers to compete vs the full might of their armada. Thankfully mankind built up their forces now, but back then we only had a small fleet and in a fair fight we could win. The Turians were not planning to show up with a fair fight. Actually how the Asari realised something was up. The Turians stirred. There is a reason why we call it the "First Contact War" and they call it the "Relay Incident".

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Like I would ever trust a Batarian. I am called the "Butcher" of Torfan.

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Madecologist wrote...

omgwtfbbqhax wrote...

100% of Batarians met were complete D-Bags anyway


The two guards of Aria are not too bad and if you have Zaeed with you the Blue Sun Merc leader mellows out. Cafka is also quite personable. Heck even if you extort the Aria guard for the Ish mission, he still tanks you after. Heck even in Bring down the Sky, if you socialize the Batarian Lt, he is pretty pragmatic and reasonable.

People forget, humanity is not hat well loved either. We freakin show up, start seeding every bloody planet we find. Build up a space fleet faster than the Turians can take a double take and go "what?". Then demand priviliages other races took centuries to achieve just because we have this oversized sense of Galactic entitlement.

Sure we are not slavers and we mostly behave. Why the Council sided with us in the Skylian Verge (well they sided with no one, but we were beating the Batarians and the Council said they won't get involved. Effectively handing us the region: trust me, that is a political siding with us. Keeping their hands clean).

People forget the Galaxy are full of jerks. The Turians were about to throw the might of their fleet after Shanxi. If the Asari did not step in, we would have been in trouble. Since back then we did not have the numbers to compete vs the full might of their armada. Thankfully mankind built up their forces now, but back then we only had a small fleet and in a fair fight we could win. The Turians were not planning to show up with a fair fight. Actually how the Asari realised something was up. The Turians stirred. There is a reason why we call it the "First Contact War" and they call it the "Relay Incident".


Never said that Batarians weren't reasonable..and yes other races (esp Turians) are jerks "ah yes....reapers"

I literally facepalmed when i first heard him say that ( paragon option should have been to facepalm tbh)

Ok the MAJORITY of Batarians are D-bags with a couple of them being smart enough to know how the world works.Posted Image

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I support having the option to recruit a Batarian. If so, I also demand the option to shoot them. ^_^

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luk3us wrote...

I support having the option to recruit a Batarian. If so, I also demand the option to shoot them. ^_^

That be cool, make everyone happy. You want to get to know one! There! You want to kill the bugger. There! Perfect solution.

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I'd support it but first they'd have to make more obvious variances in how they look. There are subtle variances sure, but besides Tarak most of them look and sound the same.




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I think we should capture a few Batarians and offer them as a sacrifice when trying to solve a loyalty dispute.



"Stop fighting eachother, here's a Batarian for you to vent your anger on"

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Seneva wrote...

I think we should capture a few Batarians and offer them as a sacrifice when trying to solve a loyalty dispute.

"Stop fighting eachother, here's a Batarian for you to vent your anger on"

Who punches more teeth out of a healthy Batarian in one hit?

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As long as there is the option to just reject/kill the batarian straight from the off, I'm sold on the idea of a potential batarian squadmate. Simply put, about half of my Sheps are horrendously anti-Batarian. Horrendously and irritationally. Having a batarian on their squad would be like asking Anakin Skywalker to make nice with a Tusken Raider. I, however, think batarians are a pretty interesting race -- so, yeah, as long as there was the opportunity to RP anti-Batarian, I think a batarian squaddie would be a good addition.

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Anyone wonder how Batarian slavery in the Batarian Culture functioned when Batarians were a part of Citadel space? The Council didn't object to slavery then? Or did Slavery become a part of their culture only after ceding from the Council?



I think so far in ME1 and ME2 we are only shown some of the nastiest and worst parts of Batarian culture.



Again, i find it funny how many people roleplay racism. You would think people would hate Reapers more than Batarians. People accept Reapers as a bad guy but don't seem to "hate" them the way people express their hatred for Batarians.



Furthermore, I am surprised in this bunch of RP-Racists, there aren't more people hating on Turians (who occupied Shanxi and killed humans during incident 314) or other species.

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My take on Slavery and the Council.

No. They don't and the Batarians still did it. Probably did not make them popular. But they probably were not idiots either, sticking to the Terminus systems or the Skylian Verge for it. Unlike many sci-fi multiracial alliances, Citadel does not go imposing charters or rights outside of its own jurisdication (Council/Citadel Space).

This probably did not make the Batarians likable. Now they only been around for not too long either. Barely long enough to get an embassy. Suddenly humans show up and we like claim the space they claimed already. They ask us to buzz off and we just go no. Every fight they pick, we fight back harder. This whole time, we get an embassy faster than they did. Batarians object and demand that the Council dictate the Verge as Batarian territories but they don't. Which gave humans Carte-blanche to steam roll the Batarians out of the sector. Batarians realising where the wind is blowing, leave the Citadel in a protest of unfair treatment. Once self exiled, they were not under any Citadel convention and then basically instead of keeping it downlow, they just reverted to their true stance and went all out with their slavery.

Now look at what happened? It was obvious the Council was not a fan of Batarians and pretty much give priviliages to the quickly rising race that kicked the Batarians out of a region. We pretty much were a Council tool to stop the Batarians. Keeping their hands clean because we were doing it on our own. Probably why the Batarians hate us so much and why they gave up on the Council. Even if humans were brash and self-entitled pricks (to their eyes) with an aggressive bend. Our ethics was something that sat much better on the minds of the Asari and Salarians. The Turians were still a little bitter though.

In short we would make a fine addition to the Citadel if we grew up a little. Was the overall mentality.

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scyphozoa wrote...

Anyone wonder how Batarian slavery in the Batarian Culture functioned when Batarians were a part of Citadel space? The Council didn't object to slavery then? Or did Slavery become a part of their culture only after ceding from the Council?

I think so far in ME1 and ME2 we are only shown some of the nastiest and worst parts of Batarian culture.

Again, i find it funny how many people roleplay racism. You would think people would hate Reapers more than Batarians. People accept Reapers as a bad guy but don't seem to "hate" them the way people express their hatred for Batarians.

Furthermore, I am surprised in this bunch of RP-Racists, there aren't more people hating on Turians (who occupied Shanxi and killed humans during incident 314) or other species.


I think it's because among psychological profiles and backrouds that you can pick for your Sheaprd, several are linked to Batarians, I don't think the other species are so tightly linked to Shepard history. My colonist ruthless Shepard is not that found of Batarians. In the other hand, I don't think they love her either.

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It's good that BioWare didn't add a Batarian squad-member.

Every game/story needs some sort of "bully", not really an evil bad guy, but a bully. The Batarians are the bullies in Mass Effect together with the Vorcha and I like it to stay that way.

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I wouldn't mind having a Batarian as squad mate if he has a unique design (like how Samara and Grunt are atypical of their species), a decent voice actor, interesting personality and a compelling background story. Batarians are ugly but so are Salarians and Mordin is easily the most popular new character in ME2.

It is funny how people talk about immersion but would reject a potentially powerful ally because he is ugly. :D

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Agree with OP. A not so black/white approach to the batarians would be interesting.

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The Capital Gaultier wrote...

I was kinda hoping for a Volus Biotic God squadmate. Errr... maybe.


Lol. Would mind keeping him on the ship as comic relief. I can imagine him going around and stealing crew members' unmentionables.

Jack: Touch my underwear again and i shall smear the wall with you, ****.
Volus: I didn't do it, I think things and they happen.

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A female Batarian would be an interesting squadmate, too. So far, the only female aliens we have are asari, and Tali. Her body model would be human, after all, and a femenine face not so hard to design.



In any case, I support the ME2 squad for ME3, and I don't think we need any more people for it, but yeah a Batarian could be interesting. Maybe DLC, as it seems the human-batarian conflict isn't as significant in the "main" story...