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javierabegazo wrote...
I'm sure Priestly would say something along the lines of "Info is given on a Need - to -know Basis".

They don't need to layout their itinerary of DLC plans for you simply because you've had the luxury of beating ME2 10 different ways, ME2 hasn't even been out for 3 weeks, and we already got the Cerberus armor/shotgun pack, that came not two weeks after ME2 launched with Zaeed and the Normandy Crash pack.

The shotgun and the Normandy Crash was sorta nice for something free, I suppose. :3

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Varenus Luckmann wrote...

Three words: Return. To. Ostagar.


Hah, yes, that was quite a debacle. :D

And OP, and the people crying out for 'solid information' - did you stop and think that maybe there is no 'solid information' yet to be had? Maybe the DLC is not done yet, maybe they're waiting on certification, maybe they found a bug they didn't anticipate, and want to finish/confirm/fix it BEFORE officially announcing a release date.

After what happened with RtO, I say let them take their sweet time. Knowing little bits of info won't make it come any faster. Take a deep breath. :D

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Pretty sad you can beat a game in 10 different ways within 3 weeks after release.


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trickfred wrote...

Varenus Luckmann wrote...
Three words: Return. To. Ostagar.


Hah, yes, that was quite a debacle. :D

And OP, and the people crying out for 'solid information' - did you stop and think that maybe there is no 'solid information' yet to be had? Maybe the DLC is not done yet, maybe they're waiting on certification, maybe they found a bug they didn't anticipate, and want to finish/confirm/fix it BEFORE officially announcing a release date.

After what happened with RtO, I say let them take their sweet time. Knowing little bits of info won't make it come any faster. Take a deep breath. :D

The worst thing about RTO was that it was leaked, available to pirates, pulled, and then withheld for several weeks - after which the exact same DLC was officially released again, without any changes to it.

It somewhat deserves it's own thread, but I'm not going to start it. Things like that just makes me sad and angry.

Modifié par Varenus Luckmann, 19 février 2010 - 02:29 .


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javierabegazo wrote...

I'm sure Priestly would say something along the lines of "Info is given on a Need - to -know Basis".
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then why announce that DLC in the first place ? and put a relative time table of a couple of weeks after lunch as an fact..Its missleading

As for Chris im without a doubt we will get all the info..at the day the thing will be on the Cerberus Network,

Modifié par Kolos2, 19 février 2010 - 02:30 .


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Well, armor/weapon/vehicle/whatever DLCs are worthless, whether they're free or not.

The only DLCs worthy of attention are mission/companion DLCs. Unfortunately, Bioware hasn't had a lot of success with those, judging by ME1 (I don't mean commercial success). BTDS was mediocre, while Pinnacle Station was outright bad. Normandy Crash Site wasn't too bad but it was so miniscule that one could hardly call it a mission DLC. Their DAO DLCs weren't any good, either, except Stone Prisone, which was obviously part of the original game pulled out to  encourage people to buy new copies.

Anyway, if they're going to release some interesting DLCs before ME3, I'm all for that. But I wouldn't exactly hold my breath.

Modifié par T0paze, 19 février 2010 - 02:40 .


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What annoys me with the lack of info - and this is by far not exclusive to Bioware - is that such annoyances are so easily delt with. On larger companies, assign a person to keep track of such thing and keep the community updated.

They are under no obligation to do so, of course. We can't demand it. But we can want it and we can talk about it and we can ask for it. Smaller companies have had continuous contact with their communities for years. Stop having secrets and we'll all feel better, I think. Fans whine because they don't understand, or are kept in the dark. Companies and employees whine because they'r[color="#dc00dc"]e[/color] [color="#dc00b4"]n[/color][color="#dc00a0"]o[/color][color="#dc008c"]t[/color] [color="#dc0064"]a[/color][color="#dc0050"]l[/color][color="#dc003c"]l[/color][color="#dc0028"]o[/color][color="#dc0014"]w[/color][color="#dc0000"]e[/color][color="#dc1400"]d[/color] [color="#dc3c00"]t[/color][color="#dc5000"]o[/color] [color="#dc7800"]s[/color][color="#dc8c00"]a[/color][color="#dca000"]y[/color] [color="#dcc800"]w[/color][color="#dcdc00"]h[/color][color="#c8dc00"]a[/color][color="#b4dc00"]t[/color] [color="#8cdc00"]t[/color][color="#78dc00"]h[/color][color="#64dc00"]e[/color][color="#50dc00"]y[/color] [color="#28dc00"]w[/color][color="#14dc00"]a[/color][color="#00dc00"]n[/color][color="#00dc14"]t[/color][color="#00dc28"],[/color] [color="#00dc50"]w[/color][color="#00dc64"]h[/color][color="#00dc78"]e[/color][color="#00dc8c"]n[/color] [color="#00dcb4"]t[/color][color="#00dcc8"]h[/color][color="#00dcdc"]e[/color][color="#00c8dc"]y[/color] [color="#00a0dc"]w[/color][color="#008cdc"]a[/color][color="#0078dc"]n[/color][color="#0064dc"]t[/color] [color="#003cdc"]t[/color][color="#0028dc"]o[/color] [color="#0000dc"]s[/color][color="#1400dc"]a[/color][color="#2800dc"]y[/color] [color="#5000dc"]i[/color][color="#6400dc"]t[/color][color="#7800dc"].[/color]

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trickfred wrote...
And OP, and the people crying out for 'solid information' - did you stop and think that maybe there is no 'solid information' yet to be had?



We aint asking for a fixed date, but at least something more that the name of the dlc.

If thy dont know by now how Hammerhead gonna fit into the game and how much content  thy are planing for it, then thy havent even started working on that bloddy thing

We had quiet some info about Ostagar before it came on, we have none, zero, null about the next Me 2 DLC, not even the basics.
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Modifié par Kolos2, 19 février 2010 - 02:39 .


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AntiChri5 wrote...

Was the latest FREE DLC not enough for you?

Just be patient mate.

this

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MilkyMoor wrote...

Mass Effect 2 hasn't even been out for a month yet and you're already writing the Cerberus Network off? Wow.

and also this.

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I sure hope they don't do a pinnacle station style release.

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ahh, more impatient people who want things NAO! Sad sight.

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Vigor Mortivore wrote...

Pretty sad you can beat a game in 10 different ways within 3 weeks after release.

You're not referring to ME2's quality or length or atleast I hope not are you? Because most games can be beaten 10 different ways in a week. Some people simply have much more time on their hands, or their students with a low workload, or simply have no job at all. I for one, with my workschedule just barely beat ME2 for the first time 3 days ago.

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I think he just wants some type of estimated release schedule. Most game companies usually detail there dlc several months in advance of release. Bioware has not done that in the recent past. With pinnacle station they just released it without any pr. It just showed up on live. It wasn't even mentioned on the website.

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Varenus Luckmann wrote...

<snip for sanity>

Edit: Rainbow because I felt like it.


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Gorn Kregore

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Lol are you seriously crying over free DLC not being released right away? lol

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Some people are too impatient

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T0paze wrote...

Well, armor/weapon/vehicle/whatever DLCs are worthless, whether they're free or not.

The only DLCs worthy of attention are mission/companion DLCs. Unfortunately, Bioware hasn't had a lot of success with those, judging by ME1 (I don't mean commercial success). BTDS was mediocre, while Pinnacle Station was outright bad. Normandy Crash Site wasn't too bad but it was so miniscule that one could hardly call it a mission DLC. Their DAO DLCs weren't any good, either, except Stone Prisone, which was obviously part of the original game pulled out to  encourage people to buy new copies.

Anyway, if they're going to release some interesting DLCs before ME3, I'm all for that. But I wouldn't exactly hold my breath.


I doubt they will ship the Hammerhead without some extra side quests. I mean, what other use could it have?

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Here's something for you impatient types.... Kasumi vid.  Who knows how real this is - Major spoilers in the vid, BTW.

www.motionbox.com/videos/d499d8b01a1ae4c05c

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Yeah, there's two different ways of handling being impatient about things like this.

There's chicken-avatar guy who keeps posting about this and fishing for questions to be answered in those other threads.

And then, of course, on the other end of the impatient spectrum, there's illusive man actually complaining about it like Bioware is doing something wrong.

I think perhaps the chicken may have it a bit more right than the illusive man. That's just opinion though.

Modifié par Jagrevi, 19 février 2010 - 03:49 .


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And this is why they should never ever give any sort of time frame.

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Dude, you don't have to panic until they make big promises, go silent for 17 months, and then drop DLC without warning. If that happens, THEN you can ****.

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T0paze wrote...
Well, armor/weapon/vehicle/whatever DLCs are worthless, whether they're free or not.

The only DLCs worthy of attention are mission/companion DLCs. Unfortunately, Bioware hasn't had a lot of success with those, judging by ME1 (I don't mean commercial success). BTDS was mediocre, while Pinnacle Station was outright bad. Normandy Crash Site wasn't too bad but it was so miniscule that one could hardly call it a mission DLC. Their DAO DLCs weren't any good, either, except Stone Prisone, which was obviously part of the original game pulled out to  encourage people to buy new copies.

[...]

The whole Shale thing pissed me off in DA:O, but now I realize that we had it pretty good, considering that Shale at least was a complete character, with dialogue and interactions. Compare that to the soulless, meaningless air-hoggin' existance of Zaeed.

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Jagrevi wrote...

I think perhaps the chicken may have it a bit more right than the illusive man.


Assuming this is me ... could I please not be reffered to as "The Chicken"?

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Varenus Luckmann wrote...

AntiChri5 wrote...

Varenus Luckmann wrote...

AntiChri5 wrote...
Was the latest FREE DLC not enough for you?

Just be patient mate.

Yay, free stuff that is never gonna get used, yaay.


It is still free.

They say there will be more. Perhaps "Thanks, man" would be a better response than "dont want it!" Maybe in a month they will release some thing you love.

Complaining about free content....

Yes, complaining about free content. I'm sure you'd be ABSOLUTELY ECSTATIC if someone walked up to you in the street and handed you a broomstick covered in feces.

Because it's free!


I would simply say no i dont want the damn stick.

Whether or not you like the shotgun and armour they didnt just crap it out. It would have taken time and resources to create (probably not much but still).