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[kaff33nd]

scyphozoa wrote...

I LOL at the idea of the earlier post that says "We apologize for the delay"

 

[ammit23]

Is that a meter of your interest or BW's?

[aries1001]

Bioware is based in Edmonton, Alberta. And thus follows MST time.



As for the new info, be sure there is a plan for it. After they've burned their bridge(s) with RtO, I'm pretty sure info about DLC's release won't be gíven, unless they're sure...when it will be released.

[kaff33nd]

ammit23 wrote...

Is that a meter of your interest or BW's?

Haha... It was intended as my interest in the quoted post, but I guess it could stand for BioWare's interest even more! Good call.

[RodolpheBirmingham]

On the 3rd February, BIOWARE promised us "Free in-game content in a couple weeks", now they have to be true to their words. http://twitter.com/masseffect2



I love BIOWARE's Games but I hate companies who promise and do not deliver.

For MASS EFFECT 1, BIOWARE promised many DLCs, we only had 2 and not the best.



Today with ME2, they repeat the same mistakes but this time it will be the last time I trust BIOWARE.



They sould have deliver new content, three days ago and we do not even have appologies?

[TSMUK]

ah patience is lacking in the youth of today, everyone wants stuff NOW, Bioware will produce DLC's when its good and ready, moaning about it just gets yourself stressed it is only a game after all.

[Jagrevi]

Given how this is the topic that seems to never die, I'm thinking perhaps whichever thread has the most recent official word on the matter should be stickied?



Whichever thread the mod announced that it was presumably next week, and not until next week.



Without a sticky to that, my guess is these threads will continue popping up until ... well, sometime next week.

[Kolos2]

Jagrevi wrote...

Given how this is the topic that seems to never die, I'm thinking perhaps whichever thread has the most recent official word on the matter should be stickied?
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Thats the point ,there aint no recent official word about the DLC, even the info we have is pre ME2 lunch. 

And i dont think  searching the game files is an  official thing; bit silly people needed to  learn about Kasumi that way.

[Jagrevi]

Kolos2 wrote...

Thats the point ,there aint no recent official word about the DLC, even the info we have is pre ME2 lunch. 

And i dont think  searching the game files is an  official thing; bit silly people needed to  learn about Kasumi that way.

I was referring to the post made by the mod who said it was "significant", and said to expect it next week.

EDIT: Mod In Question = "javierabegazo", assuming I'm spelling that right.

Modifié par Jagrevi, 20 février 2010 - 06:57 .

[Varenus Luckmann]

AntiChri5 wrote...

Varenus Luckmann wrote...

AntiChri5 wrote...

Varenus Luckmann wrote...

AntiChri5 wrote...
Was the latest FREE DLC not enough for you?

Just be patient mate.

Yay, free stuff that is never gonna get used, yaay.

It is still free.

They say there will be more. Perhaps "Thanks, man" would be a better response than "dont want it!" Maybe in a month they will release some thing you love.

Complaining about free content....

Yes, complaining about free content. I'm sure you'd be ABSOLUTELY ECSTATIC if someone walked up to you in the street and handed you a broomstick covered in feces.

Because it's free!

I would simply say no i dont want the damn stick.

Whether or not you like the shotgun and armour they didnt just crap it out. It would have taken time and resources to create (probably not much but still).

Those are the two main ingredients in a poopstick. Resources and time.

Everything else takes care of itself.

[Landline]

I don't have a problem with DLC not being released for awhile, or even if it won't be released at all.



I just can't stand not knowing, its like wondering what will happen if you die. You can drive yourself mad thinking about it but you'll never figure anything out.

[javierabegazo]

ammit23 wrote...

Best I can tell from internet searches it all started on Jan 19 with Dr. Ray Muzyka, "co-founder, BioWare and Group General Manager of the RPG/MMO Group of EA" when he announced the Cerberus Network and DLC's:

After launch, BioWare will release another DLC pack for Mass Effect 2 that introduces the Hammerhead, a new vehicle in the Mass Effect
universe. (...) In
addition to this new vehicle, BioWare will release new missions and
unique in-game items, including Cerberus Assault Armor which boost
shields, health and heavy weapon ammo and the M-22 Eviscerator Shotgun.

Most people would probably take that statement as suggesting the hammerhead was to come out relatively soon, and maybe even before the armor/shotgun DLC.  So, it would appear that everything stems from one head-honcho at BW that spouted off with a poor choice of words, lack of information, or general foot-in-mouth-syndrom. 

Now a month later, we have every right to question BW's ability to deliver the promise DLC for hammerhead, new missions/characters, etc. All they've been able to get out so far is a shotgun and an armor suit.  To be a repeat of ME1 or not, only time will tell because BW sure isn't going to bother...

The level of self entitlement I'm seeing here is staggering. It's still not even 3 weeks since ME2 launched,  "relatively soon" for me falls within 1-2 months. Sheesh, you kids

[AtreiyaN7]

Some people need to learn to be, oh, I don't know, PATIENT. We got quite a bit of DLC, and I doubt BioWare is going to respond to this, just because you don't want to wait anymore for your NG+ run. *rolleyes*

[Jagrevi]

I do agree people need to post with more tact and less entitlement.

That being said, it shouldn't be surprising people are particularly anxious about when it will be released. The more time goes on, the more the prospect of DLC loses value. A couple weeks from now, more people will have moved onto other games, and will no longer care about DLC - not everyone plays the game more than once.

So I agree that yelling at Bioware like you're entitled to this thing they've been working on for is a really low move. That being said, I think it's important to at least understand where the player-side frustration that's inspiring any potential poster-ass-hattery is coming from.

For many, based on how many play games, the difference is not whether they'll have to wait, it's whether they'll get to utilize it at all.

Of course, we're not entitled to this DLC. Bioware didn't even have to make it. But it's not surprising when you tell a drowning man you'll throw him a life preserver, disappear for a minute, and he begins to yell. Admittedly, you didn't have to help him in the first place, but the preserver means ALOT to him, and if it takes too long, he won't even really get to use it.

Modifié par Jagrevi, 20 février 2010 - 07:22 .

[Jagrevi]

^^^^

Edited in an analogy at the end of my last post there that I think might explain the impatient behavior we're exhibiting as a community.

Modifié par Jagrevi, 20 février 2010 - 07:25 .

[Jagrevi]

yeah but no one is going to die lol, even though they are acting like they will.

Agreed - bit of a stretch of characterization, but agreed.

its just a matter of
patience

This is what I disagree with.

As much as the behaviour and attitude of the "impatient" is somewhat problematic, the answer is not just for them to be patient, because it's not a scenario with the same pay off at any time interval.

Again, this is not a life or death situation - obviously, it's just a video game - however, I'm going to use a medical analogy simply to point out the similarity in pay-out-structure, not to imply any similarity in sevarity.

If a cancer patient is waiting for a cure, you can't honestly tell him the solution is just "patience". Now if he goes and bangs on the door of the medical researchers while they're at home, yes, he's being a ******, but you still can't tell him that the solution is just "patience" - that's just not acknowledging the situation, is demeaning to them, and only making the situation worse.

these people are too self absorbed to recognize how business works

Perhaps.

all they want is to stuff donuts in their mouth.

I can't really speak to their diet just based on their posts.

to stuff
content in their games

Yes ... although whether or not it's out of greed or "before it's too late" is a valid matter of perspective.

i don't mind consumers but have the common sense to understand how business works.

Agreed, but with a caviet.

While they may be displaying some naievty over how a business works, it can also be noted that the business may be set up in a way that may actually screw them over.

Modifié par Jagrevi, 20 février 2010 - 07:37 .

[dirftglass]

I'm not going to complain, Bioware is doing a great job with everything right now ... but yeah, if the DLC hits after I've already finished the game, I will die inside a little.



Not a complaint, just saying that I really, really care when it hits.



Love the work you guys are doing.(BW)

[Kolos2]

Some might have a bad memory, Pinnacle Station DLC is a prime example why Bioware policy handling this content is bad. A promised DLC, year and a half without a word, when it came , no update at all, it did just show up, and as a final mockery it wasnt worth the hour of the gameplay invested
So yeah i hardly have a reason to be confident or "patient"


And yes i do feel entitled to some updated news, Cerberus Network is a paid service , it costs 1200 points so it has a price tag,
Future DLC will have an price aswell.

Modifié par Kolos2, 20 février 2010 - 08:16 .

[vdeity]

Yeah, I'm glad I got Pinnacle Station for free.

It wasn't worth any amount of money.

[javierabegazo]

No Kolos2, the Cerberus Network is just BARELY a paid service. It comes free with every new copy, and the Hammerhead is coming free, Zaeed and the Normandy Crash pack was free, the cerberus armor and shotgun were free, Hell, every DLC thus far for ME2 has been free (excluding pre order/bonus armors)



Sure it might cost someone to buy the hammerhead but for anyone who has bought a new copy of ME2, it'll be free.

Just because you're unsure enough or you care too much about the issue to be "patient", hardly gives you motive to act like a victimized customer.

[Jagrevi]

Yeah ...



I want / "need" the DLC asap possible too to get any use out of it. That being said, my strategy for trying to get info on when it's coming: make mods happy / sympathize.



Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying you need to suck up to them - heck, I'm disappointed myself that it didn't hit last week, I'm not going to lie about that - but let's not act like Bioware has done anything wrong here.

[Kolos2]

Well i bought an used game (not really just for the sake of the argument), so i paid for it, and from thgs side it is an paid service
As for the free content (Zaeed) and hammerhead i belive a dev or someone said thy wont charge for content that was integral to the game but not finished or it didnt fit into the two DVDs (the whole Shale fiasco wasnt an great PR stunt i would gather), for what i know thy even might cut Kasumi out in an atempt to charge for it (since we have no idea if it will be free)
As a rule i dont pay for content that should be there in the first place; Like buying a car without the seats or the hot chick on the car advertisment.

Again this topic wasnt made as a complaint becouse there is no fixed DLC date, or cose its not out yet, what bothers me is the lack of info (any kind) about it, content wise, Thy even didnt confirm  Kasomi as far i know.

As i said all this complaining doesnt mean much, but mark my words the whole ME 2 DLC story gonnan be interesting , even more if people will take the whole situation as granted

Modifié par Kolos2, 20 février 2010 - 08:45 .

[jamskinner]

javierabegazo wrote...

ammit23 wrote...

Best I can tell from internet searches it all started on Jan 19 with Dr. Ray Muzyka, "co-founder, BioWare and Group General Manager of the RPG/MMO Group of EA" when he announced the Cerberus Network and DLC's:

After launch, BioWare will release another DLC pack for Mass Effect 2 that introduces the Hammerhead, a new vehicle in the Mass Effect
universe. (...) In
addition to this new vehicle, BioWare will release new missions and
unique in-game items, including Cerberus Assault Armor which boost
shields, health and heavy weapon ammo and the M-22 Eviscerator Shotgun.

Most people would probably take that statement as suggesting the hammerhead was to come out relatively soon, and maybe even before the armor/shotgun DLC.  So, it would appear that everything stems from one head-honcho at BW that spouted off with a poor choice of words, lack of information, or general foot-in-mouth-syndrom. 

Now a month later, we have every right to question BW's ability to deliver the promise DLC for hammerhead, new missions/characters, etc. All they've been able to get out so far is a shotgun and an armor suit.  To be a repeat of ME1 or not, only time will tell because BW sure isn't going to bother...

The level of self entitlement I'm seeing here is staggering. It's still not even 3 weeks since ME2 launched,  "relatively soon" for me falls within 1-2 months. Sheesh, you kids

Most of us are not complaining about no content, we are complaining about no information.  We are saying that just like before Bioware is talking the talk and not walking the walk.  Willing to take our money before launch and talk up DLC only to go totally silent after.  They do it on lots of occasions(pinnacle station, ME1 squad small role in ME2).  Do I feel I am entitled to information?  No.  Do I feel Bioware continues to do poorly in the PR department?  Yes.
Also your 1-2 months is garbage.  Bioware said in a couple weeks not months.  If they want to change that go ahead and put it on twitter and in the forums.  So far they haven't.

Modifié par jamskinner, 20 février 2010 - 08:43 .