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[CrookedAsylum]

tonnactus wrote...

yummysoap wrote...

And his neck-snapped victims were armed mercs for hire for the morally reprehensible Nassana Dantius. There is no bloody comparison.

There are helpless,not innocent,yes.He attack from behind and/or use his sniper, his victims dont get a chance to fight back.

He's an assassin. They're not supposed to.

[cooldevo]

tonnactus wrote...
There are helpless,not innocent,yes.He attack from behind and/or use his sniper, his victims dont get a chance to fight back.

But how many innocents have those mercs themselves killed?  And all the evil people that Thane killed after he set out to atone.... how much blood is on those victims hands as well?

Once he left the Hanar services, he went "freelance" and after his wife was killed he took revenge.  He regrets it, and is now trying to atone.  He kills evil people who have intentionally hurt innocents.  Which sounds to me like the gist of what everyone that see Thane in a better light is saying.   His victims were in fact hurting innocents.  They are all accessories and enablers by ensuring that they can continue to hurt innocents.

Morinth had no such motives.

[Lonely_Fat_Guy]

tonnactus wrote...

Massadonious1 wrote...

Ehh, that Turian was hardly innocent.

Did he kill someone.Should shepardt kill sarazino then?

so you should only be killed if you have killed some one?

so stalin is okay? cause he only gave an order too kill people, so the people who actually killed the guy are the only ones too blame?

please...

as an assasin most people you kill are dirty, maybe not killers but liek the turian racists who treathen others for money?
Morinth is just crazy for power and the melting, she doenst care what so ever, innocent peopel, criminals, whatever.

[tonnactus]

CrookedAsylum wrote...
 She does not genuinely think that Shepard can successfully meld with her; she said that so he would.

Could,not would.And there are reasons that he can make it.In her first meeting,he was able to resists her hypnose.He has access to the protean cipher without getting insane,like Manuel.
She dont regret that shepardt die,that true.

[CrookedAsylum]

tonnactus wrote...

CrookedAsylum wrote...
 She does not genuinely think that Shepard can successfully meld with her; she said that so he would.

Could,not would.And there are reasons that he can make it.In her first meeting,he was able to resists her hypnose.He has access to the protean cipher without getting insane,like Manuel.
She dont regret that shepardt die,that true.

Resisting hypnosis and resisting a biotic brain hemorrhage are two very different things, yo. The point is, Morinth is an unfeeling killer who gets off on death.

[tonnactus]

Lonely_Fat_Guy wrote...


so you should only be killed if you have killed some one?

so stalin is okay?

Order to kill is like killing.And please,no hitler and stalin in this thread.

as an assasin most people you kill are dirty, maybe not killers but liek the turian racists who treathen others for money?

And you think that is ok,or what??
Thats something for the police.And the criminal who hires thanes son dont make the contract to protect some traders.

[cooldevo]

tonnactus wrote...
Could,not would.And there are reasons that he can make it.In her first meeting,he was able to resists her hypnose.He has access to the protean cipher without getting insane,like Manuel.
She dont regret that shepardt die,that true.

You cannot always resist the hypnosis.  One playthrough I did it, my Para/Rene scores were too low and she successfully hypnotized me (or whatever it's called).  I was only saved when Samara came in and interrupted the process.  I thought it was really well done if you get hypnotized and just as she's getting things ready, Samara comes in.  Thus, no you cannot always resist, and she is more than happy to try and kill you for the gratification and rush.

[tonnactus]

CrookedAsylum wrote...


Resisting hypnosis and resisting a biotic brain hemorrhage are two very different things, yo. The point is, Morinth is an unfeeling killer who gets off on death.

The ability to resist such a thing has something to to with the nerv system of shepardt,and the brain is a part of it.
And really,she doesnt say that shepardt would survive that.It was more if someone could survive that than you.

[CrookedAsylum]

tonnactus wrote...

CrookedAsylum wrote...


Resisting hypnosis and resisting a biotic brain hemorrhage are two very different things, yo. The point is, Morinth is an unfeeling killer who gets off on death.

The ability to resist such a thing has something to to with the nerv system of shepardt,and the brain is a part of it.
And really,she doesnt say that shepardt would survive that.It was more if someone could survive that than you.

So you agree that she is a manipulative predator who was twisting her words to imply Shepard could survive a mind meld. Cool.

[tonnactus]

cooldevo wrote...


You cannot always resist the hypnosis.

But you only have the choice if you could resist.

[CrookedAsylum]

Tonnactus, you have a bad habit of stating what has already been said. Yes, it would make sense that you would only have the choice to resist if you can actually resist.

[Pacifien]

If Morinth is a brutal murderer for killing for pleasure, I wonder what that makes Jack who by her own admission "still gets warm feeling during a fight."



Really, half your squad are brutal murderers. Hell, even my own Shepard is a murderer, coldly putting a bullet through the head of an gang member acquaintance in ME1. And if the inhabitants of the quarantine district are to be believed, Mordin likes to display his kills as a warning to others. Now that's pretty sick.

[Funkcase]

Skilled Seeker wrote...

Massadonious1 wrote...

Ehh, that Turian was hardly innocent.

And Thane prays for himself, not the victims.

The Turian was innocent. He was presenting his argument through the legal diplomatic process. Just because you disagree with him doesn't give you a right to kill him.

You should pay attention to what that Turian is doing while you are following him, he's hardly an innocent Turian.

[tonnactus]

CrookedAsylum wrote...

So you agree that she is a manipulative predator who was twisting her words to imply Shepard could survive a mind meld.

??
She could truly believe that shepardt survives that.

Modifié par tonnactus, 19 février 2010 - 05:21 .

[tonnactus]

Funkcase wrote...



You should pay attention to what that Turian is doing while you are following him, he's hardly an innocent Turian.

Innocent in that way that he doesnt deserve to die.Like i said before this is something for the police.Nothing justified a execution.

[InvaderErl]

tonnactus wrote...

CrookedAsylum wrote...

So you agree that she is a manipulative predator who was twisting her words to imply Shepard could survive a mind meld.

??
She could truly believe that shepardt survives that.

And she could also believe that Shepard could sprout wings and fly throughout the cosmos!

She's been doing this for 400 years, I assume she knows how her abilities work.

Kind of like how she said she was the genetic destiny of the Asari and then Samara tells you she's sterile.

[Mlow44]

tonnactus wrote...

But no one has a problem with the first person.I find that really interesting.Do people really think he only killed bad guys??
Naive.His son wanted to start a career to kill a innocent turian....

um, what's your definition of "innocent?" 'cuz that turian politician was corrupt and racist. were you not paying attention during Thane's loyalty mission? as you follow him and his bodyguard, they're shaking that store clerk and bar owner down.

EDIT: just saw that a response to this was posted while i was writing it. either way, though, as far as wicked people go, corrupt politicians can be some of the worst, as they can continue to hide behind the law taking advantage of his position to commit crime. i don't advocate execution, but if anyone deserves it, it's that kind of person

Modifié par Mlow44, 19 février 2010 - 05:30 .

[Felene]

After reading 7 pages of this thread, I think tonnactus's definition of "mass murderer" and "innocent" might be slightly different from an average person.

And MutantSpleen's moral compass wasn't pointing at right direction, plus a few misunderstanding with Asari justicar code.

In short, this thread was a mistake at the very beginning.

Modifié par Felene, 19 février 2010 - 05:31 .

[CrookedAsylum]

Felene wrote...

After reading 7 pages of this thread, I think tonnactus's definition of "mass murderer" and "innocent" might be slightly different from an average person.

And MutantSpleen's moral compass wasn't pointing at right direction, plus a few misunderstanding with Asari justicar code.

In short, this thread was a mistake at the very beginning.

After seven pages of this topic, I've realized that sparkling cider is delicious.

[Remaix]

tonnactus wrote...

CrookedAsylum wrote...

So you agree that she is a manipulative predator who was twisting her words to imply Shepard could survive a mind meld.

??
She could truly believe that shepardt survives that.

Really? Naïve. Morinth is an experienced killer and has been doing this for centuries. She takes pleasure in melding with the minds of her victims to kill them and take their powers. That's what she enjoys. She doesn't care about Shepard, but she does care about making Shepard her next victim. You should stop believing every word she says and realize that she's manipulating Shepard.

[tonnactus]

Mlow44 wrote...

EDIT: just saw that a response to this was posted while i was writing it. either way, though, as far as wicked people go, corrupt politicians can be some of the worst, as they can continue to hide behind the law taking advantage of his position to commit crime. i don't advocate execution, but if anyone deserves it, it's that kind of person

Cant believe my eyes...
If anything,Murderers deserves execution(prefer lifetime imprisonment),not thiefs or corrupt politicans.

[Remaix]

CrookedAsylum wrote...

Felene wrote...

After reading 7 pages of this thread, I think tonnactus's definition of "mass murderer" and "innocent" might be slightly different from an average person.

And MutantSpleen's moral compass wasn't pointing at right direction, plus a few misunderstanding with Asari justicar code.

In short, this thread was a mistake at the very beginning.

After seven pages of this topic, I've realized that sparkling cider is delicious.

After seven pages of this topic, I've realized th- Assuming direct control!

[CrookedAsylum]

Remaix wrote...

CrookedAsylum wrote...

Felene wrote...

After reading 7 pages of this thread, I think tonnactus's definition of "mass murderer" and "innocent" might be slightly different from an average person.

And MutantSpleen's moral compass wasn't pointing at right direction, plus a few misunderstanding with Asari justicar code.

In short, this thread was a mistake at the very beginning.

After seven pages of this topic, I've realized that sparkling cider is delicious.

After seven pages of this topic, I've realized th- Assuming direct control!

D<
/Blasts with warp