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[Bratt1204]

Default137 wrote...

Bratt1204 wrote...

Suprez30 wrote...

bluewolv1970 wrote...

Bioware took out all the character elements  such as romance (both old and new), the dog (without even an explanation), the sacrifice ending, most of the first games characters (with the exception of loghain, wynne, and oghren - arguably the three least favorite),eliminated the relevance of the dlc to awakenings, and yet we are supposed to believe that this is a continuation of our original character - when it feels more like a hack and slash dungeon crawl game. How will those carrying over a character from origins feel like they really are continuing on with the same character when virtually everything connected to the frst game is not acknowledged (particuallry the human noble origin where dog is ACTUALLY your family mabari)?

 The events of Awakening could happens 1 years after you defeated the Archdemon for all we know?The Main DA quest take several years to accomplish .MY guess the events of Awakening happens  maybe a years after you defeated the Archdemon . You might have traveled with Leliana or rebuilt the order .. or searched for Morrigan.Until some King called for your help .. Than your *love* interest have other thing to take care.

It's not a HARLEQUIN BOOK. Get over it.

Plus you're a frigging hero.Not a homeboy.

It is only set a few months after the events of DAO. My PC married Alistair, became Queen and rules Ferelden jointly with him. How can that not be present in Awakening? It makes no sense.

They never said it won't be present.

They said you can't continue on it, but that it is an important part of your characters life, and will most likely be mentioned by them, you just can't make the romance ADVANCE because of the long distance between you and your partner.

The thing is, for most of the romances in Awakening, how are they supposed to go forward? Alistar is the King, and is needed in Denerim, he can't go on mad adventures with you anymore, and due to how long it takes to travel around Ferelden, you can't really go back to the palace very often for bootycalls because it takes about two months to get from Denerim to the frigging Wizards Tower.

Its the same with Morrigan, she's either raising a child, about to have a kid, or is seriously pissed at you for not going along with her plans right now, she can't go running around the countryside with you anymore, even if she wanted to, it just won't work out, and as before, you can't just go visit her every month for some sex, because you have to save innocent people, and it would take you a month to go get to her.

Zevran and Leliana are the only two without a good reason to stick with you, however I'm sure the plot has given them a reason to be traveling as well, most likely they are scouring either their homelands or Ferelden for more Gray Warden recruits, or are helping Ferelden out by being an ambassador of sorts to their homelands during these trying times, so while you may see them again, or they may contact you with information, they probably won't be sitting around Amarinthene waiting for you to come home so they can bake you cookies and have a nice sexytime.

Honestly, would you prefer Alistar just going "HURR I SHOULD BE KING, BUT I'LL RUN AROUND WITH YOU" or Morrigan "I'M PREGNANT/HAVE A KID, BUT THAT DOESN'T STOP MEEEEE" just so you can have Alistar in your party again? More likely then not, you'll be able to act romantically torwards him when you go visit the Palace to talk about the threat that is facing the nation, he just won't be able to come with you for a fairly obvious reason.

Now, that would thrill me (and a multitude of others) beyond belief and would satisfy every RPing  need i have in playing Awakening.  I hold out hope that that may be the case and it would be just fantastic. I am cautiously optimistic on the release of Awakening and hope it  does justice to DAO. 

Modifié par Bratt1204, 20 février 2010 - 03:00 .

[bluewolv1970]

Ceridraen wrote...

Patriciachr34 wrote...



I usually don't respond to these types of rants, but frankly I'm tired of being pigeon holed.  As an older woman who has been married more than a decade, I like the romance.  Once a person is as "settled in" to a long standing relationship, often romance gets set aside for expedience sake.  (A roll in the hay becomes simply a roll in the hay and then we're off to our busy lives.) So this game gives me a chance to enjoy romance and inspires me to pursue this type of encounter with my beloved. Oh, and just to so you know that my husband isn't a gaming widower, he often works late hours and weekends.  So, I have plenty of time on my hands.

Second, as for being fat, I've lost an entire size since I started playing this game.  My husband is also enjoying the new, fit me; and is looking forward to the new fitter me in that will appear in the months to come.

So, Lord Kain and any other broad spectrum persona out there,  please stop making these axxenine statements that all gamers are fat, non-social losers with nothing better to do than drool over pixelated love interests.  We are a extremely diverse demographic who share a common enjoyment of well rounded, well told, interactive stories.

OOOH! Good point!  I've actually thought gaming should be used for dieting. I forget to eat, if a game is good enough.  And really, interest in romance carries over to interest in romance in life, too.  Not only that, but it's shared - especially in a game like this, where you make your character, & choose what you say & how you develop the relationships. It's incredibly interesting to see how friends/family/lovers play this game - who they pick, what they make, what choices they make.  I have yet to see anyone I know who didn't make a character that looked like them, who behaved like them, even if it's a less than obvious facet.  EVEN if you do the 'bad me,' it's still revealing in what you find funny, in saying what you wish you could say. (when I long to tell that first chantry sister to 'pay up' in lothering, for instance.)  The roles you pick reflect you - they reflect people you know, too, and that's fascinating.  I tried & tried to make a human girl - couldn't get past Ostagar. She just felt wrong.  Every male I make has a sameness - it's safe to assume he's pretty close to a real life person.   Another in my family made an elf warrior & a human warrior - they looked exactly alike, and they looked like him. 

This game lets you put a lot of yourself into its progression - it's not that we're giant sausage-shaped, basement dwellers in real life - we were just imaginative to accept the premise & acknowledge what was happening.

It's 'just a game,' sure, but it's also a mirror.  

great post

[Feraele]

Challseus wrote...

Uberdubie wrote...
...this only tell us consumers how utterly pointless buying your DLC is if you drop all support for it in the next expansion...

I understand people are attached to their DLC items, just wanted to point out that not all people bought the DLC for the items... I for one did it for the story, and enjoyed it very much.

Dlc items are part of the content...most folks bought the dlcs for the content.........content also includes the story..the environment.

Modifié par Feraele, 20 février 2010 - 04:25 .

[AsheraII]

Hmmm, so it still carries that Partial Nudity & Sexual Content logo, but won't include romance? How did that happen? They stripped out all RPG elements and turned it into a hack&slash? Anyway, I will be thinking for a lil while about ordering this one.

[Daneres]

WilliamShatner wrote...

Hammer6767 wrote...

bluewolv1970 wrote...

andcus wrote...

its an expansion... not a continuation....it expands on the world and the scenario where your character survives.

excpet that bioware already has stated that decsions you make were going to carry over in future games and regardless of that if you DO carry over a character it should feel as though are acutally still playing that character particularly given that only a half  year at best has past - unless we are lead to believe that in six months all friends moved on (including the ones traveling with us), our romantic partner dumped us, anora/alistair divorced us (human noble), our dog died, and nothing we did or people we helped along the way acknowledges us - if they wanted to make an expansion that had nothing to do with the first game then simply make it a new character like the firist neverwinter nights expansion

The romance dissention is just unfounded, in my opinion.  I stated elseware that you are at war in this game...if you think about crusader knights in the middle ages, they left their lives and familes behind to go to the Middle East, sometimes for years....essentially putting their lives on hold to fight.  Awakenings comes across like that for me.  You are "crusading" against the blight.  And it isn't like you can Skype with Leliana...

And Leliana doesn't strike me as a housewife who would just sit at home while the Warden goes off to fight.  Oh that's right! In the DA:O she was a terrific warrior who was able to fight on the front lines along side the Warden!  Did she suddenly lose her ability to fight in between games? 

Maybe she'll with child and can't exactly fight alongside you right now. I could go for that explanation. She did stay with your warden guy after all, and if you were a Cousland, an heir would be necessary.

[Daneres]

Patriciachr34 wrote...

_LordKain_ wrote...

All this complaining about romances.....who friggin' cares!

It's a game......a....GAME!

I bet some of these people spend more time working on their DA romances then they do with their RL romances.....if they can squeeze out of their doorway to have one that is.

I usually don't respond to these types of rants, but frankly I'm tired of being pigeon holed.  As an older woman who has been married more than a decade, I like the romance.  Once a person is as "settled in" to a long standing relationship, often romance gets set aside for expedience sake.  (A roll in the hay becomes simply a roll in the hay and then we're off to our busy lives.) So this game gives me a chance to enjoy romance and inspires me to pursue this type of encounter with my beloved. Oh, and just to so you know that my husband isn't a gaming widower, he often works late hours and weekends.  So, I have plenty of time on my hands.

Second, as for being fat, I've lost an entire size since I started playing this game.  My husband is also enjoying the new, fit me; and is looking forward to the new fitter me in that will appear in the months to come.

So, Lord Kain and any other broad spectrum persona out there,  please stop making these axxenine statements that all gamers are fat, non-social losers with nothing better to do than drool over pixelated love interests.  We are a extremely diverse demographic who share a common enjoyment of well rounded, well told, interactive stories.

Very well stated. Good for you. Though, I do have to admit that I wish more of the guys I've known looked more like Alistair. lol

[Maria Caliban]

Proposition_Joe wrote...

cop out, Leilana is out adventuring with me , even DAO states that. so where is she?

Shoe shopping in Orlais.

This is why Wardens who romanced Leliana start the game with only 5 gp.

[Daneres]

I love dog, and I think the romances add a lot to the game, but not every mission has to include both these things. Sometimes both are going to be inappropriate, or not fit in with what's going on.

I love my dog in the game, though if the challenges in Awakening are as difficult as Bioware implies, I might want to leave him home so he doesn't get killed.

[Maria Caliban]

errant_knight wrote...

Have you truly never left your dog at home when you went on a trip? Particularly when you went with other people for a specific purpose?

Virgil's Keep is the new headquarters of the Grey Wardens in Ferelden. As the Warden Commander, it's your 'home.' If you're going to leave the dog someplace, it would be there.

AsheraII wrote...

Hmmm, so it still carries that Partial Nudity & Sexual Content logo, but won't include romance? How did that happen?

1. The broodmother, Lady of the Forest, and desire demons. If any of those appeared in Awakening, then there would be partial nudity.

2. As it requires Origins to play, it may have to state everything that game is rated for as well. I'm not sure.

Modifié par Maria Caliban, 21 février 2010 - 10:41 .

[Daneres]

ladydesire wrote...

Sten returned to his people, Morrigan left and asked not to be followed, Shale went to Orzammar to help the dwarves battle the darkspawn in the Deep Roads, at least in my playthrough. I may have left Shelis (Dog) in my castle in Gwaren with a trusted friend, or I may have taken him to Highever and left him with Fergus. Lelanna went back to the Chantry to prepare an expedition to the resting place of Andraste's Ashes. What's his name (the assassin) double-crossed me and is pushing up Andraste's Grace in some forgotten cemetery near Denerim. Wynne is most likely back at the Circle Tower helping First Enchanter Irving with the process of selecting an new First Enchanter.

In my playthrough Shale went off to Tevinter with Wynne to try and become a dwarf again? How did you get that ending? Curious. And can you actually get a castle in Gwaren? Or is this just banter? I don't mind spoilers, so if you get back to me I'd appreciate any info I can get on various endings. I know I sure won't discover them all. lol

[Daneres]

Ceridraen wrote...

Patriciachr34 wrote...



I usually don't respond to these types of rants, but frankly I'm tired of being pigeon holed.  As an older woman who has been married more than a decade, I like the romance.  Once a person is as "settled in" to a long standing relationship, often romance gets set aside for expedience sake.  (A roll in the hay becomes simply a roll in the hay and then we're off to our busy lives.) So this game gives me a chance to enjoy romance and inspires me to pursue this type of encounter with my beloved. Oh, and just to so you know that my husband isn't a gaming widower, he often works late hours and weekends.  So, I have plenty of time on my hands.

Second, as for being fat, I've lost an entire size since I started playing this game.  My husband is also enjoying the new, fit me; and is looking forward to the new fitter me in that will appear in the months to come.

So, Lord Kain and any other broad spectrum persona out there,  please stop making these axxenine statements that all gamers are fat, non-social losers with nothing better to do than drool over pixelated love interests.  We are a extremely diverse demographic who share a common enjoyment of well rounded, well told, interactive stories.

OOOH! Good point!  I've actually thought gaming should be used for dieting. I forget to eat, if a game is good enough.  And really, interest in romance carries over to interest in romance in life, too.  Not only that, but it's shared - especially in a game like this, where you make your character, & choose what you say & how you develop the relationships. It's incredibly interesting to see how friends/family/lovers play this game - who they pick, what they make, what choices they make.  I have yet to see anyone I know who didn't make a character that looked like them, who behaved like them, even if it's a less than obvious facet.  EVEN if you do the 'bad me,' it's still revealing in what you find funny, in saying what you wish you could say. (when I long to tell that first chantry sister to 'pay up' in lothering, for instance.)  The roles you pick reflect you - they reflect people you know, too, and that's fascinating.  I tried & tried to make a human girl - couldn't get past Ostagar. She just felt wrong.  Every male I make has a sameness - it's safe to assume he's pretty close to a real life person.   Another in my family made an elf warrior & a human warrior - they looked exactly alike, and they looked like him. 

This game lets you put a lot of yourself into its progression - it's not that we're giant sausage-shaped, basement dwellers in real life - we were just imaginative to accept the premise & acknowledge what was happening.

It's 'just a game,' sure, but it's also a mirror.  

Wow! Everything you just said just made so much sense to me.

[Daneres]

AsheraII wrote...

Hmmm, so it still carries that Partial Nudity & Sexual Content logo, but won't include romance? How did that happen? They stripped out all RPG elements and turned it into a hack&slash? Anyway, I will be thinking for a lil while about ordering this one.

I thought about that too. Partial Nudity and Sexual Content but no romance to go with it. Odd.