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[The JoeMan]

Shepard is male. I won't make any friends here but I honestly don't think we should be given the option for a female Shepard. It makes no sense that the best soldier humanity has to offer would be from the smaller and weaker sex. It didn't bother me so much in ME1 because I could just ignore it all together but in ME2 there is so much focus on these damned romance options that it is painfully obvious that, by including a female option, male Shepard is suffering for it. The most glaring example is with Garrus. I do all of these things for him we've got all this history but whenever I go to talk to him, hoping to catch up on old times, he's too busy recalibrating the damn guns.

[FrostGun]

The JoeMan wrote...

Shepard is male. I won't make any friends here but I honestly don't think we should be given the option for a female Shepard. It makes no sense that the best soldier humanity has to offer would be from the smaller and weaker sex. It didn't bother me so much in ME1 because I could just ignore it all together but in ME2 there is so much focus on these damned romance options that it is painfully obvious that, by including a female option, male Shepard is suffering for it. The most glaring example is with Garrus. I do all of these things for him we've got all this history but whenever I go to talk to him, hoping to catch up on old times, he's too busy recalibrating the damn guns.

Lol im sure i can find some women that can beat the crap out of you!!

[The JoeMan]

FrostGun wrote...


Lol im sure i can find some women that can beat the crap out of you!!

Good luck with that. 

[Kronner]

I much prefer male Shepard, for several reasons:
First and foremost Hale's voice acting is just weird and she overplays it way too much for my taste, male Shep on the other hand actually sounds like a soldier.
femShep looks really weird in casual clothes as far as I am concerned and all in all the whole idea of Shepard being a female just does not make sense to me - that's just my opinion - you do not see women in special forces, and for a good reason.

Modifié par Kronner, 20 février 2010 - 11:29 .

[mundus66]

Pretty sure somewhere one of my female Shepards has been called "Sir". And i don't know how the future is, but now a female commander is very very rare. So i have to say male .

[Obsidian Gryphon]

Snice the question is alluding to a character in the Mass Effect universe which is a futuristic setting---I have to say I'd prefer a female Shepard to a male.

Gamewise, I chose a female straightaway for ME 1 because I guess I never like the very obvious option dangle out by BW. Why choose a guy when a female is available? I'm tired of playing guys in games.  JH as the VA for the female Shep is a wise choice, the actor who did male Shep isn't getting my vote, he chlled me out and only made me feel apathy. Granted, JH's performance isn't perfect, she does go over the top sometimes but those occurred less than the fingers of my hand so they're just nickpicks. Overall, VA + characterization + story = female Shepard, for me.  

Modifié par Obsidian Gryphon, 20 février 2010 - 11:46 .

[darkshadow136]

I've always played as a male Shepard but I'm also a male. In some games I've played female toons but not for ME.

[Taritu]

Female. Just prefer Hale's Vacting. And with power armor suits and biotics (and my main is an adept) all the tiresomeness about physical strength is just that. When I can pick up multiple people with my biotics and throw them around like ragdolls, physical strength is just a rounding error.

[EverteMax]

Male for me...cause I run around **** slapping reporters and shooting idiotic aliens. Male bravado in being an ass. My friend used female and turn her into a **** and he liked it. He actually wanted to use a male for paragon plays. So I guess it's how you feel.

...and stop using the VAs as a reason that one gender is better than the other. They both had ****ty moments and good ones. The male renegade dialogues are superb...what a hardened soldier. While the female paragon dialogues are heart warming...sweet girl.

[Taritu]

EverteMax wrote...

Male for me...cause I run around **** slapping reporters and shooting idiotic aliens. Male bravado in being an ass. My friend used female and turn her into a **** and he liked it. He actually wanted to use a male for paragon plays. So I guess it's how you feel.
...and stop using the VAs as a reason that one gender is better than the other. They both had ****ty moments and good ones. The male renegade dialogues are superb...what a hardened soldier. While the female paragon dialogues are heart warming...sweet girl.

Uh, dude, I didn't say that Hale was better, I said I prefered her.  Some people like wine, others like Vodka.  Whatever.  People use the VAs as a reason because the experience is very different depending on which one you choose.  And I've seen people argue the reverse of you - that Hale is a better Renegade and MaleShep is a better paragon.

[entekk]

I play female Sheps all the way. Most look like death himself with black lips, black armor, black/red hair, black to purple eyeliner and a pale skin. I like

[archonambroseus]

Three reasons and one counterpoint for my choice of Femshep forever:

1) Jennifer Hale is easily my favorite female voice actor (and perhaps my favorite VA of either sex in any genre)

2) Very few pieces of fiction in ANY medium have characters who are strong and female.  There are lots of the stock "strong woman" archetype (think Zoe from Firefly as the prime example), but they're usually people who kick ass because they're strong women, not women who kick ass because they are strong people.  And of the miniscule latter category (think Sarah Connor as the prime example), Femshep is easily one of the best.

3) Jennifer Hale is easily my favorite female voice actor (and perhaps my favorite VA of either sex in any genre)


Counterpoint to "females are weak" argument: come back when you learn about distribution curves.  Should be sometime around 9th grade.

[RighteousRage]

Men have 25 times more testosterone than women and can comprehend physical geometry better, which sex do you think is more plausible to fight off armies of enemies?

Also I'm quite tired of people saying Mark Meer sounds monotone and boring when Jennifer Hale sounds like a stressed out single mother at the end of a day at her retail management job. The point is Shepard is a killing machine, he's not supposed to sound like Prince or something.

Counterpoint to "females are weak" argument: come back when
you learn about distribution curves.  Should be sometime around 9th
grade.

I know about distribution curves (Economics degree required 5 statistics classes), what's your point? It's improbable but still possible for a woman to be stronger than a man, therefore it makes sense for Shepard to be female rather than male? Let me ask you this. Should Shepard be a 31 year old, or a 12 year old? Don't discriminate against the 12 year old until you've learned about distribution curves, at which point you can "come back".

Modifié par RighteousRage, 20 février 2010 - 09:12 .

[Malastrail]

Female Shep for me because I prefer Jennifer Hale's voice acting to Mark Meer's, among other things. I've tried to play as a male to get the romance achievement in ME2 since my femshep is staying faithful to Liara but have not been able to finish.



Also it's nice to be able to play as a female since so many games out there don't give you a choice to begin with.

[RighteousRage]

[Kronner]

lol ^^

[Taritu]

http://en.wikipedia....ila_Pavlichenko

(As an aside, my favourite sniper quote was from a Finn "I like Russians, they fight standing up.")

When you hit the very very top of human ability the differences only matter to other people at the very top.  I was a provincial class (Canadian) runner in my teen years.  I had a world class runner on my team.  I could run almost anyone else in the school into the ground without even trying.  He could run me into the ground without even trying. 

The difference between great and good is immense, but most people never even make it to good.

Modifié par Taritu, 20 février 2010 - 09:45 .

[archonambroseus]

Actually I was talking to The JoeMan specifically.  His argument was "FemShep shouldn't even exist because Shepard is a good soldier."

The argument of "men are generally stronger than women" is valid.  The statement "I think of Shepard as male because men are generally stronger and more inclined to military service" is valid.  The assertion "FemShep makes no sense because women are the smaller and weaker sex" is silly.  I'm serious; go back and read the comment.  It's that bad.

Besides, Shepard isn't necessarily the strongest/quickest/biggest Humanity has to offer.  He/she's marketable (hence being made a Specter) and was then in the right place at the right time to become a legend.  In terms of characteristics, his/her personal magnetism, leadership abilities, and ability to get the job done are what set him/her apart.


As for the rather perjorative comment about the voice acting, you're equating monotone and boring to detachment.  Those two are not identical, nor do they always go hand-in-hand (nor, for that matter, does being an efficient killer go along with being lifeless).  In the end it just comes down to personal taste so it's silly to argue which point of view is "righter," but then again so is implying that one always follows the other.


[edit to address above post]
Thank you for pointing out that Mass Effect artwork features a male Shepard.  I'm sure lots of people hadn't figured that part out. <_<  To be clear: something along the lines of "I see Shepard as male because my cognitive construct of Shepard is largely influenced by the promotional work" is totally valid.  But that's not what you said.  Instead you essentially deflected everyone's attention fom the actual discussion to bring up a point that was already mentioned (and that frankly didn't have to be in the first place) to make a particular non-issue seem like a be-all-end-all argument.  Which is trolling.

Modifié par archonambroseus, 20 février 2010 - 09:50 .

[Devos]

Male. I alternated for ME1 when creating characters. Some of the interactions in ME1 seemed a bit jarring as a fem shep so eventually I stuck with just male characters (though after about four play throughs with a female character). I know we all love Hale blah, blah, blah, but it's really not her best work and I'm not really a fan of her Shepard voice. I actually prefer the male Shepard voice.

I've not actually done an ME2 play as a fem Shep yet, Xbox ate most of my end game saves so decided to do another play through on ME1. But the ME saga has taken a back seat for me thanks to the back log of games I built up so it will be a while.

But then again I also tend towards the Soldier as his real class (even if it's not my prefered one) and use the default face so I pretty much go for the default except for not being some kind Nietzche Wannabe.

[Sailfindragon]

Male Shep for me all the way. Always used male shep in ME, so it was only right I used him again in ME2. I don't really like the female character.

[LyonVanguard]

If Bioware ever makes a game with Shepard as an NPC, they will bviously need to give players the option of it being a male or female.

Frankly I prefer to play as female but I see Shepard as a male due to the masculine last name.
When you hear "Williams" for example it sound a bit more feminine.

That is just my opinion.

[Balek-Vriege]

The whole physical strength argument is useless in Mass Effect since every soldier gets genetic mods in some way or another (if I remember correctly from ME1). Genetic modifications which most likely include greater to superhuman strength, perception, reflexes etc.



So it really comes down to personal preference and I find the game isn't suffering from having both genders available. At the very least it adds replay value.

[ElweSingollo]

For me my shepard is a female but that has more to do with the fact that in rpg's MMO's pretty much any game where you get a character choice I tend to use female avatars and conform to the commonly held truth of what MMORPG's stands for.



That being said I am currently just starting a male Shepard pretty much to try and experience the male romance options.

[Mordigan]

archonambroseus wrote...

Actually I was talking to The JoeMan specifically.  His argument was "FemShep shouldn't even exist because Shepard is a good soldier."

While I don't agree with JoeMan that there shouldn't be a FemShep, you totally misrepresented what he said..  JoeMan didn't say that FemShep shouldn't exist because Shepard is a "good" soldier..  He said that FemShep shouldn't exist because Shepard is the BEST Soldier that humanity has to offer.

There's a vast league's worth of difference between good, and the best....and in this sense, I agree that it's kind of strange that the best human Warrior would be female, since males have enormous advantages over females when it comes to fighting and combat.

Still, it's just a game, so it hardly matters..

[Mordigan]

Balek-Vriege wrote...

The whole physical strength argument is useless in Mass Effect since every soldier gets genetic mods in some way or another (if I remember correctly from ME1). Genetic modifications which most likely include greater to superhuman strength, perception, reflexes etc.

No..

Genetic enhancements do not give you super strength, speed and reflexes.  To do that would require substantial overhaul of the human genetic code, and falls more in line with genetic engineering, which is completely different  and is said to be illegal in the ME Universe.

Shepard is about as strong and as fast as a very fit 21st Century human, probably Olympic grade, but nothing more..

Also, you can't make women as strong, or stronger than men without substantial changes to their genetic code (which would fall under genetic engineering).  Men have 10 to 20 times as much testosterone as women do, and as such can pack on greater amounts of muscle mass faster and easier, and can retain it longer as well..

For a woman to equal men in physical performance, would necessitate increasing her testosterone levels far beyond their normal range, which would not only be very unhealthy (and harmful), but it would destroy her femininity in the process..

Basically, thats what steroids do to women that abuse them.

So it really comes down to personal preference and I find the game isn't suffering from having both genders available. At the very least it adds replay value.

I agree..