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[smudboy]

I lost count on how many times Mark Meer is talking to Mark Meer, or Mark Meer is a background voice.

[xKerberos]

I'm really bad at recognizing voices. Do you have any examples? I'm curious. I mean, he doesn't sound like Shepard at all in Dragon Age.

[smudboy]

-Off  the top of my head, the Volus (who we think is Fade) in Garrus' loyalty mission
www.youtube.com/watch
-Definitely the Quarian Captian on the Rayya (first Quarian you talk to)
-Very clearly, in Thane's recruit mission, the Eclipse Trooper merc (over loud speaker?) telling the Eclipse Vanguard  "You go." to find the assassin.

[gemc123]

xKerberos wrote...

I'm really bad at recognizing voices. Do you have any examples? I'm curious. I mean, he doesn't sound like Shepard at all in Dragon Age.

Who does he play in Dragon Age?

[boardnfool86]

smudboy wrote...

-Off  the top of my head, the Volus (who we think is Fade) in Garrus' loyalty mission
www.youtube.com/watch
-Definitely the Quarian Captian on the Rayya (first Quarian you talk to)
-Very clearly, in Thane's recruit mission, the Eclipse Trooper merc (over loud speaker?) telling the Eclipse Vanguard  "You go." to find the assassin.

Still not really hearing it... I am sure it is but its certainly not throwing me... I am surprised, with hundreds of voice actors you would think they wouldn't need Meer or Hale to do multiple voices

[cerberus1701]

He's also the voice of the food store owner at the Citidel.

[Delsch]

I think several characters have other voices to do. He who talked for Thane also does additional voices for example.

Although I can't hear Mark as the Volus but Volus have partly altered voices anyway.

[Kordras]

The only time I actually recognized his voice was when I heard one of the two guys talking in Rodam Expeditions on the Citadel about shotguns and sniper rifles. When I first heard them, I thought it was Shepard talking. XD

[kaimanaMM]

I'm not 100% sure, but I also think Biotic God Volus is Mark Meer, I'll have to go back and listen to it again.

I actually chuckled a bit at hearing Shepard's voice coming out of someone/thing else's mouth. I wonder what that's like for MaleShep.

"Shepard, you're supposed to be dead!"

"You sound oddly familiar to me ... "

Modifié par kaimanaMM, 19 février 2010 - 05:41 .

[JRCHOharry]

gemc123 wrote...

xKerberos wrote...

I'm really bad at recognizing voices. Do you have any examples? I'm curious. I mean, he doesn't sound like Shepard at all in Dragon Age.

Who does he play in Dragon Age?

He plays quite a few roles, the Merchant scammer where you find Sten and Lel, an elf in the dalish camp looking for his wife. Thats all i've heard, so not THAT many... just two.

On another note, does anyone think he is the Quarian who meets you on the flotilla - they both sound eeeaarily similar.

[SL22]

So why can't he put that much emotion into male Shepard's voice?

[smudboy]

SL22 wrote...

So why can't he put that much emotion into male Shepard's voice?

Though I definitely agree, he and Hale don't have enough personal situations to get emotional over.  Does Shepard ever get happy or sad?  He yells during some fighting scenes.

I think it's because he and Hale have to play the"everyday" guy/girl that everyone can relate to.  They only really get emotional with P/R choices, or romance.

Jennifer, well, she's just the best there is, although a lot of her lines are flat too (because they're supposed to be.)

Modifié par smudboy, 19 février 2010 - 05:49 .

[The Angry One]

smudboy wrote...

SL22 wrote...

So why can't he put that much emotion into male Shepard's voice?

I think it's because he and Hale have to play the"everyday" guy/girl that everyone can relate to.  They only really get emotional with P/R choices, or romance.

Jennifer, well, she's just the best there is, although a lot of her lines are flat too (because they're supposed to be.)

Nah I don't buy it. Hale acts the role well. Yeah some of the "give me info" dialogs are dull but eh, how exciting can anyone make "What's this area of the ship?" sound?
Meer.. I just don't get any vibe from him even during what's supposed to be emotional dialog.

Therefore I come up with these possibilities.

1) Meer is a bad actor.
2) Meer doesn't care about the Shepard role.
3) Meer was deliberately told to be monotone, because males feel threatened by other men with personality, especially if they're playing as them.

1) seems unlikely given his other roles, 2) would just be stupid.
I therefore say it is 3). My logic is flawless.

[Naltair]

There are nuances in either portrayal, I think they just wanted a more stoic character.

I find plenty of feeling in my Shepard, who is male, from the emotion in the voice. Meer and Hale just portray the character as they are directed.

Modifié par Naltair, 19 février 2010 - 05:58 .

[Hellebore5000]

JRCHOharry wrote...

gemc123 wrote...

xKerberos wrote...

I'm really bad at recognizing voices. Do you have any examples? I'm curious. I mean, he doesn't sound like Shepard at all in Dragon Age.

Who does he play in Dragon Age?

He plays quite a few roles, the Merchant scammer where you find Sten and Lel, an elf in the dalish camp looking for his wife. Thats all i've heard, so not THAT many... just two.

On another note, does anyone think he is the Quarian who meets you on the flotilla - they both sound eeeaarily similar.

Wow I only noticed one of the player voices when I made an archer in DA. I was thinking it was weird hearing Shep saying cheesy things every battle

[WrexKroganKing]

Meer > Hale. Hale sounds ridiculously hamfisted and forceful most of the time, bordering on chewing the proverbial stage and the ridiculous obsession with her is born out of the superiority complex the (laughable) minority of rabid FemShep devotees exhibit.



I.E 'we love FemShep and since we're in the minority obviously Hale is superior to Meer.' It's a means of compensating for the lack of numbers with ridiculous assertions about voice acting ability.

[MrVincent]

SL22 wrote...

So why can't he put that much emotion into male Shepard's voice?

That's the character...an emotionless soldier.

[The Angry One]

WrexKroganKing wrote...

Meer > Hale. Hale sounds ridiculously hamfisted and forceful most of the time, bordering on chewing the proverbial stage and the ridiculous obsession with her is born out of the superiority complex the (laughable) minority of rabid FemShep devotees exhibit.

I.E 'we love FemShep and since we're in the minority obviously Hale is superior to Meer.' It's a means of compensating for the lack of numbers with ridiculous assertions about voice acting ability.

The fact that no one here is deriding Meer other than external factors affecting his performance while you are borderline flaming Hale shows your lack of conviction and your sexism.
Obvious troll is obvious. Go back to your bridge.

Modifié par The Angry One, 19 février 2010 - 06:30 .

[KainrycKarr]

The Angry One wrote...

WrexKroganKing wrote...

Meer > Hale. Hale sounds ridiculously hamfisted and forceful most of the time, bordering on chewing the proverbial stage and the ridiculous obsession with her is born out of the superiority complex the (laughable) minority of rabid FemShep devotees exhibit.

I.E 'we love FemShep and since we're in the minority obviously Hale is superior to Meer.' It's a means of compensating for the lack of numbers with ridiculous assertions about voice acting ability.

The fact that no one here is deriding Meer other than external factors affecting his performance while you are borderline flaming Hale shows your lack of conviction and your sexism.
Obvious troll is obvious. Go back to your bridge.

No, I agree, just in a much less crude and insulting manner.

I don't think Hale or Meer are bad VA's. Their backgrounds just don't make sense for it.

But both Meer, and Hale, sound very....dull in a LOT of lines. Hale, to me, sounds like someone told her one too many times to be the "macho female"....the tough girl voice sounds too voiced. I don't want girly, but her tone with Shepard just sounds totally forced.

So again, I don't think it's the VA's themselves; I think it's whoever directed the actual voice-acting that kinda killed it a bit.

Tl;Dr

Neither are bad, but Hale simply isn't amazingly better than Meer as many try to claim, regardless of actual skill.

The directing of voice overs, not the voice actors themselves, i think are to blame.

[Incognito JC]

Realizing that both Meer and Hale does so many extra voices that most of us doesn't even recognize, I just respect their voice acting ability even more now.

[Kilo Trip]

SL22 wrote...

So why can't he put that much emotion into male Shepard's voice?

http://www.youtube.c...uSQNLI4#t=1m14s

I think it's because most of Shep's responses are meant to be flat, and the Paragon responses are usually something no normal person would say. Most of the renegade responses have some flare.

Modifié par Kilo Trip, 19 février 2010 - 08:08 .

[Count Viceroy]

The Angry One wrote...

smudboy wrote...

SL22 wrote...

So why can't he put that much emotion into male Shepard's voice?

I think it's because he and Hale have to play the"everyday" guy/girl that everyone can relate to.  They only really get emotional with P/R choices, or romance.

Jennifer, well, she's just the best there is, although a lot of her lines are flat too (because they're supposed to be.)

Nah I don't buy it. Hale acts the role well. Yeah some of the "give me info" dialogs are dull but eh, how exciting can anyone make "What's this area of the ship?" sound?
Meer.. I just don't get any vibe from him even during what's supposed to be emotional dialog.

Therefore I come up with these possibilities.

1) Meer is a bad actor.
2) Meer doesn't care about the Shepard role.
3) Meer was deliberately told to be monotone, because males feel threatened by other men with personality, especially if they're playing as them.

1) seems unlikely given his other roles, 2) would just be stupid.
I therefore say it is 3). My logic is flawless.

Well, the iconic sheploo looks like a run of the mill spacemarine with a peanut brain so he's probably voiced to fit that profile. I preferred Hale in me1 but I think meer has improved much in Me2 and everything that comes out of Hale in Me2 feels drawn out so to speak, as if she was depressed or something. Meer Wins round 2.

Modifié par Count Viceroy, 19 février 2010 - 08:20 .

[Revya]

Meer did great job in ME2 the Paragon and Renegade options are perfect.



Hale same as ME1 great job.

[BattleVisor]

SL22 wrote...

So why can't he put that much emotion into male Shepard's voice?

That would ruin shepard for me