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Eternal Phoenix

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Is it worth getting?

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Herr Uhl

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What is good gameplay to you?

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Sloth Of Doom

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Absolute crap, we all just come here because the site is so well laid out.  <_<

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You're likely not going to get an unbiased answer here, since pretty much everyone here is a fan of the game, so they'll in all probability tell you it's worth getting.



Your best bet is to read some reviews and watch some gameplay trailers (there should be plenty out there now) to see if it fits in with what you consider good gameplay. Once you have an idea what the game plays like, you could get some clarification here on anything that concerns you.

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Sloth Of Doom wrote...

Absolute crap, we all just come here because the site is so well laid out. 



Well, games that get 4 stars out of 10 often have fans on the official site.

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The gameplay is alot better than turn based RPG's. It's basically an action game when you're in combat, except for the fact that your character hitting an enemy or getting hit by one is based on stats and not your button-mashing skills. You can move your character around and chose which attacks they make and what not, but you don't have a button that "blocks" or ones that attack in different ways ala Devil May Cry and Zelda or what not. The combat is addictive, however, and takes quite a strategic mind. Where the game really shines is the story and characterizations. You really become immersed in the experience and many of the enemies actually seem to have some reason for being there. It really is worth at least a rental to give it a try, and then you can decide whether it's for you. I can go from this game, to MGS4, to DMC4 and then Heavy Rain because they all offer a different experience. I'd suggest you give it a go.

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Eurypterid wrote...

You're likely not going to get an unbiased answer here, since pretty much everyone here is a fan of the game, so they'll in all probability tell you it's worth getting.

Your best bet is to read some reviews and watch some gameplay trailers (there should be plenty out there now) to see if it fits in with what you consider good gameplay. Once you have an idea what the game plays like, you could get some clarification here on anything that concerns you.



Well, I've done that, so to add some more info... is the combat any fun? It is in real time but it is also like a JRPG, so does having the combat in real time make the game fun?

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kasanza wrote...

The gameplay is alot better than turn based RPG's. It's basically an action game when you're in combat, except for the fact that your character hitting an enemy or getting hit by one is based on stats and not your button-mashing skills. You can move your character around and chose which attacks they make and what not, but you don't have a button that "blocks" or ones that attack in different ways ala Devil May Cry and Zelda or what not. The combat is addictive, however, and takes quite a strategic mind. Where the game really shines is the story and characterizations. You really become immersed in the experience and many of the enemies actually seem to have some reason for being there. It really is worth at least a rental to give it a try, and then you can decide whether it's for you. I can go from this game, to MGS4, to DMC4 and then Heavy Rain because they all offer a different experience. I'd suggest you give it a go.


I can play combat like that. So all that remains is:

How long is this game? And how long can you get out of it when trying to do everything the game offers?

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It is nothing like a JRPG.


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Sloth Of Doom wrote...

It is nothing like a JRPG.


When I said that, I meant that it has combat like that, you don't actually attack like a game such as...Dante's inferno, or a game where you use buttons. Two worlds, Gothic, Risen or whatever.

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My first playthrough was over 60 hours. Really long. But, I actually felt compelled to play again, and even a third time. It really depends if you do absolutely every quest. It's longer than just about any game you can think of, but it definitely doesn't get boring because you always meet interesting characters.

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Elton John is dead wrote...
How long is this game? And how long can you get out of it when trying to do everything the game offers?


Everything? 100+ hours. A fairly rushed playthrough clocks at about 50 hours.

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Thank you for the replies. So the game has alot in it. Then I'll go pick a copy up.

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The problem here is defining "fun" since it is subjective. Some people whine the game is too hard, or to tactical, or has too much talking.



If you are looking for a nubfest hack'n'slash, this is not the game for you. Many people find the initial learning curve to be quite steep (once you get the hang of it, it is easy though). If you enjoy a tactical approach to combat and a god story you will like it. If you think diablo clones are the height of RPGs, your brain will explode and you will die horribly.

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The game is about 60-100 hours a run through, and you will likely have to replay the game to see all the neat features.



As for the gameplay, it is not your average hack-and-slash like Diablo. Its real-time pause and play, much like a pseudo turn-based game, unless you play the game at lower difficulty settings. What this means is that you will often need to pause the game, make orders, unpause, and see the battles unfold. Its not for everyone.



Personally, I think the game is worth it. The gameplay is quite strategic, the story telling is fairly top notch, and the world is very immersible.

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I took about 87 hours on my first run through the game. Second run was about 77 hours. I've currently got two other runs in the works, but have put them on hold while I go through ME2.



it's pretty tough to say whether the game play is 'fun', since that's so subjective. To me it is. To you it may not be, but if you like what you've seen in your research, then I'd say you'll probably enjoy it. There are enough skills and talents available for your characters to use to make it more interesting than just a 'click once and watch them swing' type of game, and many of the encounters require some tactics and strategy to get through successfully.

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Herr Uhl wrote...

A fairly rushed playthrough clocks at about 50 hours.


Or a second or third playthrough where you do everything but know exactly what to do and in what order for max efficiency.

I think my dalish elf who didn't miss a single quest did 53 hours. But that was my third playthrough and I switched to easy during a certain part of the game that I didn't feel like spending too much time on.

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Elton John is dead wrote...  Is it worth getting?


Yes, it is absolutely fantastic and while you are at it pick up Mass Effect 1 and 2. ;)

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Well, despite the threads about this game having some bad bugs. I'll still go get it, due to the fact that I've played LOTR:the third age and that didn't have you hacking and slashing. Since this game is like that but in real time, I suppose it will be better. I like a good story as well so I will probably like this game. With no long games out right now, this seems to me to be a must have at the moment.

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Jax Sparrow wrote...


Elton John is dead wrote...  Is it worth getting?


Yes, it is absolutely fantastic and while you are at it pick up Mass Effect 1 and 2. ;)



Ha! I played Mass Effect 1.. sadly it wasn't amazing for me as some people claim it to be for themselves. Mass effect 2 looks like ME1 so I'll avoid it. But a medieval game where you have a party and alot of content and great RPG elements (So I hear), sounds like a buy for me now.

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You'll notice a wide disparity in play-times. I'm fairly confident this is due to two not-entirely unrelated factors.



1) traditional CRPG gamer vs someone used to MMOs. The second is expecting an action game with minimal dialogue. Often they've come over to DA from Mass Effect, thinking the game would be more or less an action-oriented game like ME. The first is used to traditional Bioware games and spends time doing everything and talking to everyone. Thus taking much longer in the game and frankly getting more out of it.



2) PC vs console. Almost always console times come in 25% shorter than PC times. I don't know if that's a load-time issue, or it goes back entirely to point 1, since many of us who are PC gamers have been hard-core western RPG players for ages.



In any case, my first play-through was 123 hours, and that didn't even get the achievement for doing 75% of the sidequests. My subsequent playthroughs have run, on average, around 90 hours, though this one may actually end up much shorter, even though my gameplay will have been the most thorough.

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@Elton John is dead : this game is almost nothing like LoTR: the third age. the only thing that the 2 have incommon is a pretty good story (but thats almost the same as the movies) and chests. (as in treasure chests, mind you)

Modifié par marbatico, 19 février 2010 - 05:44 .


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Your best bet is to go on Youtube, and watch some combat vids, if that's your major selling point.

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I heard this thread is totally stupid. Is it worth reading?

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outlaworacle wrote...

I heard this thread is totally stupid. Is it worth reading?


It was, until this happened. ;)