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[Busomjack]

K0braTh0r wrote...

Busomjack what's this thread about ? Check it's title then comment again with something on this matter.

No, I'm not interested in hearing you whine about something you didn't even pay for.  I am going to report you though for being a thief.

[MajikMan77]

The reason you can change your face now and not then? Simple. This is the second part of the story and the intro mission pretty much explains it.



You died. They remade you and therefor you can be wearing anyones face, as indeed referenced when you go meet a certain character on Omega.



Todo the same in the first game would have no meaning as from a plot point of view, theres no reason for it. Your either going with 'tv' Shepard or the Shepard of _your_ chosing. Imagine the uproar if people couldn't even get to attempt to make a female Shepard of a male one of their chosing!

[Tleining]

@ K0braTh0r

i have played every Bioware Game since NWN. They are all great, and ME2 is right up there with the rest of them. It's not perfect, but seeing how a lot of people have to like it, and they all have different opinions, it's good enough.

Your behaviour kinda prooves that you are whining. People who do not agree with your opinion are wrong/children/have no clue. People who do agree with you are the real players. That makes it hard to take you serious.



I think ME2 has a lot more of a typical RPG than ME1. It's not about organizing your inventory, it's about playing your character. Make the most out of what you have. In typical RPGs, you can't go to a store, and buy everything there, you have to buy what you need most, and come back for the rest later.

Without an Inventory, there was no more need for Omni-Gel, plus, it became more realistic without it. Use Omni-Gel to hack a computer? And the need to sell items disappeared as well.

I don't understand your issue with the storyline (udina/anderson), since you can choose those ingame. Your character was rebuild at the start, so the option to change your appearance makes sense story-wise. And since ME2 is using different graphics, adapting the appearance, to keep the looks you wanted was a nice thing to add as well.



i agree with the romance scenes. That is the one thing i don't like about ME2. However, they got rid of the Mako, which was the one of the things i didn't like about ME1, so, as i said, not perfect, but good enough.



The fact that you can't sell the Minerals you gather..., i'm not sure what to make of that. Sure, it would be good to sell that. Then again, if you can, we are right back at ME1, where you have way too much money and can buy everything available.



btw: it would be nice if you would at least try to get into a dialogue with the other users here, instead of disregarding and disrespecting their opinions.

[General9999]

another great thing about mass effect 2 that it has extremely large arsenal of weapons this game has 20 weapons oh my god that is so much it has 2 pistols 3 assault rifles 2 shotguns wow thats very very much

[screwoffreg]

I can't agree with most of the OP, but my major criticism of ME 2 is the real lack of squad interaction, whether with Shepard or with one another. After playing Dragon Age, you get spoiled on how much dialogue there can be between characters...

[Sean]

Darth Drago wrote...

I couldn’t agree with you more on that. Well, except Halo Reach isn’t in the same genre of the other games listed but the way ME2 is now it fits I guess. By the way be careful about mentioning Bethesda games here… lol.

Its almost as if they didn’t quite get the game finished for the Christmas season but rushed it out before all the big hitting competition get out on the shelves. This is evident by the Zaeed download being available on launch day as well as the Hammerhead possibly (not confirmed) in a few weeks.

I only played ME2 so far, once as a paragon the other as a renegade. Its not likely I’ll go play again for some time since it just got boring to play way to fast. No replay value at all beyond that really.

With that whole Reach part, K0braTh0r said that ME2, if it was done better, could've been GotY 2010
so I just listed games I knew that were coming out for 2010, and Reach was one of them, sure it isn't a RPG, but Halo has still been a great FPS (which a lot games, like ME2, have taken ideas from the button layout. Like X to reload, RT to shoot, B to melee)

[RE0305]

K0braTh0r wrote...

Busomjack what's this thread about ? Check it's title then comment again with something on this matter.

Now now, don't try to wiggle out of the quetion, you did mention that you didn't want to waste money on this big disapointment of a game and thats why you haven't registered.

[Busomjack]

I think the changes made in Mass Effect 2 were for the better. The interface in Mass Effect 1 was annoying, there were too many useless items and upgrades and money was useless.



The actual combat is much improved in Mass Effect 2.



The only thing I think Mass Effect 1 did better is the overall plot is a bit more epic.

[Slygar]

K0braTh0r wrote...

Because I didn't register? Or maybe I didn't wanted to waste my money on this huge dissapointment? This is the true problem?

What right do you think you have to come here and complain about something you didn't pay for?  Go back to playing Dragon Age (which you probably pirated too) if you want a real RPG and stop cluttering up these forums with your crybaby posts that no one, especially at Blizzard, cares about.

The customer may always be right, but you aren't the customer.  Are you saying you would have bought it if you beat it and you really loved it?  I find that very hard to believe.

Modifié par Slygar, 19 février 2010 - 06:10 .

[Sean]

Slygar wrote...

K0braTh0r wrote...

Because I didn't register? Or maybe I didn't wanted to waste my money on this huge dissapointment? This is the true problem?

What right do you think you have to come here and complain about something you didn't pay for?  Go back to playing Dragon Age (which you probably pirated too) if you want a real RPG and stop cluttering up these forums with your crybaby posts that no one, especially at Blizzard, cares about.

The customer may always be right, but you aren't the customer.

What if he borrowed the game? or what if he just didn't register? What if he got it for free from one of those websites like Rewards1, P2S or Lockerz?

[Slygar]

Did you read the quote?  Given that, which do you think is more likely?

The most obvious answer is usually the right one.

Modifié par Slygar, 19 février 2010 - 06:12 .

[Darth Drago]

Busomjack wrote...

K0braTh0r wrote...

Because I didn't register? Or maybe I didn't wanted to waste my money on this huge dissapointment? This is the true problem?

Did you just admit to pirating Mass Effect 2 on a Bioware forum? You have no right to complain about something you didn't pay for.

Nope, never considered he might have rented it or borrowed it from a friend… ?

I’ll never understand why people think that not registering a game makes whatever you say in these forums less valid. “Oh, you didn’t register your game? Guess that makes whatever you say worthless. But hey I’ll rip into you about that never the less.”

[Sean]

Slygar wrote...

Did you read the quote?

yeah, thats why Im saying, what if he borrowed the game or got it on one of those sites were you don't have to pay


thats how I will be getting DA:O



or here's a crazy idea, but what if he rented it?

Modifié par RX_Sean_XI, 19 février 2010 - 06:14 .

[Gorn Kregore]

RX_Sean_XI wrote...
What if he borrowed the game? or what if he just didn't register? What if he got it for free from one of those websites like Rewards1, P2S or Lockerz?

Those websites you stated deliver your "reward" after months and months and months. I doubt he even borrowed the game either.

[ZeroXraven]

Before you call me a child you whiner, i'm 19 and as imature as this may all sound to you I could give a crap less. Like many people, I think most your oppinion is flawed. Mass Effect 2 is a far supperior game. and YES I have played a TON of Bioware games. this was like an experiment for them. They did the unusual which was make a VERY fun shooter game with RPG elements. Who would of thought they could make a great combat system? OMG everyone Bioware ruined it because they made a good combat system. That's the kind of insinuation I think of when I read a whine thread. People just can't get over the fact that Mass Effect 2 is a great shooter. It is better the way it is that having weapons overheat and stupid unlimited ammo which makes no sense. I doubt any guns will be that unbreakable during this time if ever so most your aruement is very flawed. All I have to say is that in my oppinion Mass Effect 2 is AMAZING and anyone reading this needs to experience it if you haven't already. Don't listen to these whiners and just enjoy a great game...Thank You, that is all

[Sean]

Gorn Kregore wrote...

RX_Sean_XI wrote...
What if he borrowed the game? or what if he just didn't register? What if he got it for free from one of those websites like Rewards1, P2S or Lockerz?

Those websites you stated deliver your "reward" after months and months and months. I doubt he even borrowed the game either.

Actually it takes a little less than a month, but my friend got his game a month after he redeemed it

[Cloaking_Thane]

K0braTh0r wrote...

November Cousland, by your comment I recon that you are or very young, or not very familiar with BioWare's games. After you had played most if not all of their games then please tell me that my opinion "sucks a cheetah".

this is indeed actually a different Genre, or a sub genre if you will.

Jog on OP

[General9999]

ZeroXraven wrote...

Before you call me a child you whiner, i'm 19 and as imature as this may all sound to you I could give a crap less. Like many people, I think most your oppinion is flawed. Mass Effect 2 is a far supperior game. and YES I have played a TON of Bioware games. this was like an experiment for them. They did the unusual which was make a VERY fun shooter game with RPG elements. Who would of thought they could make a great combat system? OMG everyone Bioware ruined it because they made a good combat system. That's the kind of insinuation I think of when I read a whine thread. People just can't get over the fact that Mass Effect 2 is a great shooter. It is better the way it is that having weapons overheat and stupid unlimited ammo which makes no sense. I doubt any guns will be that unbreakable during this time if ever so most your aruement is very flawed. All I have to say is that in my oppinion Mass Effect 2 is AMAZING and anyone reading this needs to experience it if you haven't already. Don't listen to these whiners and just enjoy a great game...Thank You, that is all

Then you are mentaly retarded

[Leonick91]

K0braTh0r wrote...
From the very beginning of the ME2 game, BioWare has put this shiny new option for us, the same character building BUT with facial changes possibility ? Who came with this idea? If I would run that place I'd fire him and a lot more with ideas that made this game lose it's touch comparing to the first. I'll talk about those after this.

Question. Why create Mass Effect with the character Shepard without a possibility to change his face or his last name (that, in my opinion, was a great thing, rather than having a random different character from player to player, better to have only one man, the icon, the symbol, it's a great deal to the storyline) and then create Mass Effect 2 with that possibility (well besides changing his last name, of course) ?!?

We get used to such an unique character that is tied to an epic story and now we have the possibility to change his face. That's just another great idea, I may only assume, was inserted to make the players feel more special & unique, than with good old Shepard.

ehm what are you trying to say here? cant really make much sense of it... if your complaining about what it seem to me you are, the ability to change shepards face, we could in me1 too whats the problem??

K0braTh0r wrote..
After this I get totally shocked when I'm seeing AMMO on my weapons ... I was like "WTF?!?" I thought it's only for the moment, maybe the pistol was damaged or something, but as I advanced in the game I saw it was made this way and with all due respect BioWare, this was the biggest and idiotic thing EVER to see in a production with your signature. This leads to the major problem, you decided to make this game more of an FPS-Action Game than an RPG-Action Game, but then I thought, heck even in FPSs' you have bigger ammo limit to carry than in this game, even with upgrades. So what was the point for this ? Just another great idea ?

The machanic works, yes i know some people have complained but there are more people that is happy about it... and seriously, apart from the stronger pistol which have a rediciously low amount of ammo and the "stronger" assoult rifle with half the ammo of the standard one ive never run out of ammo with any weapon... and when you do just change to another one, you cant possibly have wasted all the ammo of two weapons...

K0braTh0r wrote..
Various gameplay, I believe you would like to call, "improvements", right ? just blew this game's chances of being the best game of 2010 and destroyed the hearts (I'm pretty sure I am not the only one severely dissapointed) of BioWare fans.

nope, your not alone, but you sure are the minority... the only thing i really hate about me2 is how good it is and that it was released in january, i dont expect it to be beaten

K0braTh0r wrote..
Some of these are :

- extremely simplified RPG component;

- extremely simplified market (buying items without the possibility to sell them?!?);

- extremely simplified and even badly modified inventory and squad equip screen (I can't dress up my team anymore?);

- simplified romantic scenes (after what everybody saw in ME 1 it is clear they expected the same in the 2nd part, although this is not a critical dissapointment);

- the storyline...hey I didn't expected to continue the game with the council saved and the galaxy too but at least the obvious choice for most gamers would have been Captain Anderson for councilor not Udina (again not a critical dissapointment);

- what happened to omnigel? why can't I choose decoding using omnigel? you added planetary scanning...to make the game longer by boring players to death? couldn't an omnigel scan been easier? again I guess another great idea to take Omnigel out;

- you added fuel and probes to buy via fuel depots, great, but why can't we sell the minerals to the depots to make some credits? and the Normandy uses fuel only when it travels in the Nebula but not when it travels inside a Solar System or when it uses a Mass Relay?

-simplified rpg mechanics? you kidding me? RPG is defined by you playing a role, and the great story of ME1 and ME2 and the great dialogue and dialogue system of ME2 is superior to all other RPG game sout there

-So really what is it that you need to sell? Really? Because you dont want selling merly for the point of having it right? Ive seriously never felt any need for it, i dont have a stupid inventory getting filled up all the time and usually no shortage of money...

-Ok, can agree partly on that, I want my team to look like a bad ass assault squad but thats just impossible when my favourite squad members wont wear anything but casual clothing ... other than taht there is nothing wrong with the "inventory", thanks for never again having to sell loads of items or reducing them to omnigel!!

-So basically, the nudity complaints again? if there is such a need the internet is filled with sites that will suit you

-WTF do you mean with you storyline point? Can't make any sense out of it...

-Omnigel wasnt needed for this game and was simpl removed, stop being so lazy with the hacking

-Selling minerlas could actually have been usefull, but i would have had more use of buying them, credits was never a problem in me2... As for the fuel, by nebula you mean when traveling between different systems in the same cluster... Well what do i know about the fuels in ME but i would guess normandy drains fuel while traveling in a system too, but the amount is so small compared to when traveling between systems that they didnt bother showing it... you know, the distance between to planets in the same systems is rather tiny compared to traveling between systems... as for mass relays, the mass relay does the job in that case no worries for you...

Modifié par Leonick91, 19 février 2010 - 06:21 .

[Slygar]

Experience it 100%... without buying it?

[RE0305]

RX_Sean_XI wrote...

Slygar wrote...

Did you read the quote?

yeah, thats why Im saying, what if he borrowed the game or got it on one of those sites were you don't have to pay

thats how I will be getting DA:O

Well if you get it for free, then why complain about it? If you made the choice of paying for the game with your money to support the company that made the game, you have the right to complain if you aren't getting the expected gratification for your investment. However, if you make no investment, and are getting even a level of gratification you should be happy, because you have just gotten something for nothing.

[Goat_Shepard]

K0braTh0r wrote...

When you have played as many RPG's as I had, you can forsee the future of a game without finishing it, just by judging it's assets. And to phan56 you can be a real player but if you can't see something is flawed then you're just trying to be one and the people that know BioWare's long list of great RPGs they know what I am talking about, that being said, if I lost my credibility to an ignorant, then it's no major loss

We understand, you loved ME1, you expected ME1 Side B and got ME2 instead. Yes it's very different from ME1, yes it is just as good if not better than the first one. Yes it is your loss if you can't enjoy it. No we don't care.  If you were a true Bioware fan you would realize this game is worthy of the trilogy (if ME3 is good) because Bioware put as much thought and care into this one as the first. 

Furthermore, if I didn't like a game, I would put it down and be done with it, I wouldn't go to the website of FANS of the game and complain about how poor wittle me doesn't wike it. You're not going to change anyone's mind, you're only venting, which is now being chopped down like a tree. If you want sympathy, try complaining to your parents or find that minority of people that truly think this game is "a huge disappointment".

Again I say, your loss. The more I read these threads the more I am happy that I appreciate and have fully experienced art that others aren't patient enough for.

Modifié par Goat_Shepard, 19 février 2010 - 06:21 .

[ZeroXraven]

General9999 wrote...

ZeroXraven wrote...

Before you call me a child you whiner, i'm 19 and as imature as this may all sound to you I could give a crap less. Like many people, I think most your oppinion is flawed. Mass Effect 2 is a far supperior game. and YES I have played a TON of Bioware games. this was like an experiment for them. They did the unusual which was make a VERY fun shooter game with RPG elements. Who would of thought they could make a great combat system? OMG everyone Bioware ruined it because they made a good combat system. That's the kind of insinuation I think of when I read a whine thread. People just can't get over the fact that Mass Effect 2 is a great shooter. It is better the way it is that having weapons overheat and stupid unlimited ammo which makes no sense. I doubt any guns will be that unbreakable during this time if ever so most your aruement is very flawed. All I have to say is that in my oppinion Mass Effect 2 is AMAZING and anyone reading this needs to experience it if you haven't already. Don't listen to these whiners and just enjoy a great game...Thank You, that is all

Then you are mentaly retarded

Really? My only thought for you is an immature 13 year old who still uses a highly offensive insult on people you think are less intelligent than you. I have a cousin who is not right in the head so think before you say that next time. Those poor kids where just thrown on the world and have no way of thinking completely for themselves. It is very sad

BTW if I met you in real life i'd beat your stupid a s s

[ZeroXraven]

Really? My only thought for you is an immature 13 year old who still uses a highly offensive insult on people you think are less intelligent than you. I have a cousin who is not right in the head so think before you say that next time. Those poor kids where just thrown on the world and have no way of thinking completely for themselves. It is very sad



BTW if I met you in real life i'd beat your stupid a s s