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[Weskerr]

I've seen many threads that lambaste the human Reaper as rediculous silliness. Well, what I want to know is what most of the players think about it in terms of the overarching story of the Mass Effect series and the plot progression of Mass Effect 2. Are there any players who think the human Reaper is an effective advancement to the Mass Effect story and plot? Here's a link to the poll:

http://social.biowar...111/polls/2421/

Edit: The poll option that says "Affective" should say "Effective." However, I can't edit that part of the poll so it will remain that away unless a Bioware moderator can change it 

Modifié par Weskerr, 20 février 2010 - 05:24 .

[Weskerr]

Bump. I'd like more people to participate in the poll.

[AntiChri5]

making it a link might help.

[Count Viceroy]

It's just a oversized terminator.

[Weskerr]

AntiChri5 wrote...

making it a link might help.

Thanks. Just made it a link. I didn't know that function was available

[cancausecancer]

The Terminator movies ruined that for us. Someone find the email of whoever owns the rights to Terminator so we can send them strongly worded letters and show our disappointment at how their movie protagonist traveled into the future and ruined a video game, searched for Sarah O'connor.

[sergio71785]

I think it makes sense in the scope of the story.



I think the problem most people have with it, is that they imagine at full growth it'd be like some huge human shaped ship or something. In reality, it would look just like a normal reaper, but with the human looking part at its core.

[KainrycKarr]

It's crap. I don't care if it makes me stubborn, nothing can make me believe it was a good idea.



Everything else makes sense. Except for it looking like a flippin T-800.

[Gill Kaiser]

Affective =/= Effective.

[Weskerr]

cancausecancer wrote...

The Terminator movies ruined that for us. Someone find the email of whoever owns the rights to Terminator so we can send them strongly worded letters and show our disappointment at how their movie protagonist traveled into the future and ruined a video game, searched for Sarah O'connor.

This is the most cited reason as to why people dislike the human Reaper. It looks like a rip off of the terminator character from the Terminator movie. I honestly did not make that connection when I first saw it. What I saw was a half-completed human skeleton.

[Count Viceroy]

sergio71785 wrote...

I think it makes sense in the scope of the story.

I think the problem most people have with it, is that they imagine at full growth it'd be like some huge human shaped ship or something. In reality, it would look just like a normal reaper, but with the human looking part at its core.

Yes, I pictured it flying through space in a superman pose with its eye beam lasers. Sort of like DR.Evils ship in austin powers.

[Gill Kaiser]

Weskerr wrote...

cancausecancer wrote...

The Terminator movies ruined that for us. Someone find the email of whoever owns the rights to Terminator so we can send them strongly worded letters and show our disappointment at how their movie protagonist traveled into the future and ruined a video game, searched for Sarah O'connor.

This is the most cited reason as to why people dislike the human Reaper. It looks like a rip off of the terminator character from the Terminator movie. I honestly did not make that connection when I first saw it. What I saw was a half-completed human skeleton.

Those peoples' reasoning is utterly stupid to me, because it's just a goddamn metal skeleton. That's all the Terminator is. It was never exactly an original idea, for Christ's sake.

[Frotality]

awesome twist.

ruined by a horrible design choice and absent explanations.

i dont care if it looks like a terminator, i do care that someone decided to make it look EXACTLY like a human instead a true hybrid; like we couldnt make the connection otherwise. whatever anyone's theory about it, it doesnt stop it from being a very bad design choice for the final boss.

[Weskerr]

Gill Kaiser wrote...

Affective =/= Effective.

Right - that's exactly why I used affective and not "effective." Or do you just like non sequiturs.

[Gill Kaiser]

Weskerr wrote...

Gill Kaiser wrote...

Affective =/= Effective.

Right - that's exactly why I used affective and not "effective." Or do you just like non sequiturs.

...that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.

[Weskerr]

Gill Kaiser wrote...



Those peoples' reasoning is utterly stupid to me, because it's just a goddamn metal skeleton. That's all the Terminator is. It was never exactly an original idea, for Christ's sake.

Agreed. Although it's perfectly understandable to me why some people do make the connection. I think if people were to look past this, however, they might view the human Reaper in a different light.

Modifié par Weskerr, 19 février 2010 - 07:05 .

[Nastrod]

I liked it

[Weskerr]

Gill Kaiser wrote...

Weskerr wrote...

Gill Kaiser wrote...

Affective =/= Effective.

Right - that's exactly why I used affective and not "effective." Or do you just like non sequiturs.

...that word, I do not think it means what you think it means.

I'll look them both up. These definitions are from the American Heritage College Dictionary:

"effective adj. 1.a. Having an intended or expected effect. b. Producing a strong impression or response; striking. 2. Operative; in effect. 3. Existing in fact; actual; a decline in the effective demand. 4. Prepared for use or action, esp. in warfare" (437).

"affective adj. 1. Psychol. Influenced by or resulting from emotions: affective disorders. 2. Concerned with or arousing feelings  or emotions: emotional" (22).

You're absolutely right. My mistake. Unfortunately, I can't edit the poll options.

Modifié par Weskerr, 19 février 2010 - 07:20 .

[toksikshok]

i thought it was great

[tertium organum]

Frotality wrote...

awesome twist.

ruined by a horrible design choice and absent explanations.

This. The discovery of the human reaper and how Reapers repurpose species is horrifying but it all falls flat in the game - it just isn't compelling. The narrative holding it altogether is too weak and the pacing horrible.

[Count Viceroy]

tertium organum wrote...

Frotality wrote...

awesome twist.

ruined by a horrible design choice and absent explanations.

This. The discovery of the human reaper and how Reapers repurpose species is horrifying but it all falls flat in the game - it just isn't compelling. The narrative holding it altogether is too weak and the pacing horrible.

This, I actually belive the ending would have been better without the terminator.

[neubourn]

ME = tribute to classic Sci-Fi movies/tv from the 80s and 90s

Terminator = one of those classic 90s sci fi movies

Human Reaper looks like a Terminator



So no, didnt bother me in the least. There are plenty of other nods to various scifi movies and shows, yet people dont seem upset about those, so i dont quite understand why THIS one bothers people so much. Plus, reapers are machines, humans are humans, so if you were to have a "Human Reaper" then it would have to be a "human machine" which of course implies a human skeleton, or a Reaper made of flesh and bone, and a squishy reaper would be pretty damn weak (and easily killed id imagine)

[Ieldra]

The human Reaper was bad enough. But worse was the reasoning that they needed millions of pasted humans to build it. That's silly in so many ways. No, I didn't like the whole thing at all.

[ATKT]

I would vote if there were two middle options--kinda silly and kinda affective. In which case I'd vote kinda silly.

[Count Viceroy]

neubourn wrote...

ME = tribute to classic Sci-Fi movies/tv from the 80s and 90s
Terminator = one of those classic 90s sci fi movies
Human Reaper looks like a Terminator

A tribute should be a small cameo or something woven into the original story so you can't tell where it came from originally. Copying something as iconic as a terminator and present it like that with 3 min left of the game as a big ass boss fight is just ridicilous.