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[42vichart42]

After reviewing all of the post it seems apparent that there are multiple expectations of just what a player wants to experience. There are the shoot-em, skew-em, kill-em players and there are those that prefer a more open ended relational experience, etc. DAO was a great experience in multiple aspects of which I prefered the relational aspect the best. I reached a point where it became somewhat boring to fight and battle at every turn. The relationships that developed and were somewhat open ended were much more entertaining in the long run. I like a great endepth open ended storyline and I do not care much for sad endings but at least hopeful ones. I am still trying to figure out what direction Bioware is going with DA. I recall something in DAO about Morrigan had been seen heading West near the end of the game which had me somewhat excited and hopeful that she and the player would eventually reunite in an expansion or DA2 (hopefully with a happy ending). Most of the post I have read here leave me a bit dissapointed and they seem to be a bit pessimistic but since I have already reordered DAA I guess I will just see. In any case I certainly hope that BIO continues the romance as it is most appealing to me versus all the bloodshed which seems to be the same over and over. Again I do respect all of the others views and expectations tho.

[shedevil3001]

i have to agree but bear in mind that the devs did say they havent done away with romance options altogether its just that in awakening your too busy as you have a bigger more important job to do. But only time will tell if bioware can deliver another amazing expansion or sequal with at least some of the things that alot of people loved about dao but also giving you the option of romance but also so you dont have to romance anyone for those who dont care for the romance side of the game

[ichibo780]

I agree with you, 42vichart42. Honestly, I just do not think the basic DA story is that interesting without romance.

[Masticetobbacco]

39.99 + tacks and I dont get rommance?



really bioware? why so lazy?

[Noilly Prat]

Dethanos wrote...


I don't recall any romances from that game either. Actually, I don't recall "romances" being a big part of any good games before DA:O, and they really didn't add anything to the story. Seriously, it's just a few lines of cheesy dialogue tacked onto the influence system. Personally, I'm glad I won't have to endure any more of that dreck in the expansion. "Romance" is a waste of time and energy best spent elsewhere.

Really?  Romance has been no less significant a part of most of BioWare's previous games than it is in Dragon Age, and those were all good.  It's also popped up in some form or another in a good deal of excellent adventure games, RPGs, and probably loads of other games I've never played.

Not to say that it is always vital, but it's hard to even imagine something like Broken Sword without the sexual tension and on-off romance of the two protagonists.

And, just for the record: I'm pretty sure the only way you could avoid at least some exposure to the romances in Hordes of the Underdark was to, like, not even talk to the characters in question.  They came on pretty heavy, as I recall.

Modifié par Noilly Prat, 26 février 2010 - 04:36 .

[SeanMurphy2]

I am sure they could have done a really rushed romance with a few lines of dialogue. But it would not have matched the standard set by DA:O.

And then fans would complain about how the DA:O romances were brilliant. But the Awakening romances are very poor in comparison.

There was a lot of work put into each of the DA:O characters. Even if Bioware save time by reusing the engine and artwork. It does not mean the writers can produce content three times as fast.

Modifié par SeanMurphy2, 26 février 2010 - 05:34 .

[GodWood]

The absense of a female dwarf romance makes me sad...

[saMoorai]

i am a bit disappointed but i will still get the game still disappointing...
and just to add insult to injury bioware you HAD to add a female elf to are party didnt you?<_< *sigh*
hopefully Velanna (i think thats her name) will get same treatment Tali got^_^

Modifié par saMOOrai182, 26 février 2010 - 06:46 .

[Jyces]

D:

[Hadea]

I don't think I deserve additional romances. I mean, I was so cruel to Alistair.



I broke up with him once just to see the disappointment in his face, and have started romances with Leliana and Zevran just to make him jealous.



I made him king just so he would HAVE to break up with me.

My PC: "Oh, uh, yeah, Alistair, I'm really broke up about it, too, sure, whatever..."



And, in my current play through, I plan to kill him off at the end. Or should I make Loghain a Grey Warden? Ooh, that would really irritate him! So maybe it's better if Bioware doesn't allow me to inflict myself on future party members.

[JPL1138]

I'm surprised that one of the justifications for the lack of romance was based on time constraints. Honestly, the ones in Origins didn't take all that long either.



Both Morrigan and Leliana had dialogue branches that could be exhausted in less than 20 minutes straight out of Lothering, and then from there all you'd have to do is finish their personal quest, which for Leliana is available fairly early.

From there, all you'd have to do boost their approval via quick gifts, and from there you've pretty much finished the romance, with no new dialogue after that. All told, that's probably a max of 2 hours, if even that, worth of gameplay so I have a hard time understanding how they can't pull the same off in an expansion that's 10-15 hours.



Not that I'm personally upset there's no romance or such in Awakening, just that I find it really hard to buy the "lack of time" argument when the romances in Origins were pretty short themselves.

[soteria]

And, just for the record: I'm pretty sure the only way you could avoid at least some exposure to the romances in Hordes of the Underdark was to, like, not even talk to the characters in question. They came on pretty heavy, as I recall.

I really don't have much memory of them. I remember the Aribeth "romance," sure, but I don't think it went anywhere. I don't remember much of anything with the drow female, although I did like her character. Was there a romance for female characters? That game had good companions, but I don't remember romances being a big deal in it.

[JPL1138]

The romances in Hordes of the Underdark actually felt longer than the ones in Origins, probably because they had dialogues throughout the length of the game regarding the romance.

[FieryDove]

soteria wrote...

I really don't have much memory of them. I remember the Aribeth "romance," sure, but I don't think it went anywhere. I don't remember much of anything with the drow female, although I did like her character. Was there a romance for female characters? That game had good companions, but I don't remember romances being a big deal in it.

You should go back and play it, hearing Valen's voice alone is worth it. lol

[Zevais]

no romance is punishment for my indescretions... I force an innocent noble Alistar into a three way with a dirty pirate wh0re... I took away his innocense and now EA took away my joy

Modifié par Zevais, 01 mars 2010 - 03:49 .

[Thalorin1919]

I find it nice to not have any romances. I enjoyed the romances in the last game, but with looking at the trailers, it just doesnt really seem like the right time for a romance.



Or else things like this could happen.



*Warden goes to kiss her...*

*The doors barge open*



"THIS ONE HAS STRONG MAGIC! THIS ONE TALKS!"

"Aww, dammit. Again?!"

[Trefalen]

Victor Wachter wrote...

The romance decision will always be made on a per-game basis. There's no blanket policy at BioWare that must always be or never be romance in a game. That will be decided on what fits best in each game.

This is good to hear, frankly it was the biggest reason I've stayed with DA. I hope future DA expansions will have it. I was afraid there was too much flack from non players, about in game romance etc.

Modifié par Trefalen, 01 mars 2010 - 06:51 .

[Charsen]

Well hopefully the sequel to DA (not expansion) will have some more romance options. I don't know if there has been any talk of a sequel, probably won't be anything mentioned til after they see how the expansion goes, and judging from Mass Effect we're probably talking a year or two minimum, but... there are just far too many questions that are unanswered to leave it as such, romance or no, it definitely left it open-ended in many ways imo.

[Clysta]

I'd have to agree with Trefalen. Romance in DA was a major part of keeping me interested. I understand that there are those who are into the kill, kill and kill some more concept, but it was a nice side to all of that. Plus, if this is an expansion, it would make sense for it to actually expand on what you did to start. Granted it's a larger effort, but that's just what I see an expansion to me. Otherwise I'd feel like I'm playing a conpletely different game.

[Noilly Prat]

soteria wrote...


I really don't have much memory of them. I remember the Aribeth "romance," sure, but I don't think it went anywhere. I don't remember much of anything with the drow female, although I did like her character. Was there a romance for female characters? That game had good companions, but I don't remember romances being a big deal in it.

Yeah, the Aribeth romance wasn't very developed, and seemed kind of tacked on, but it was there anyway, and even had some implications in the endgame and epilogue, as I recall.  I liked the one with the drow better though.

For the ladies, there was that horned dude.  I know, not one of BioWare's better games for romances, but there they are.

Regarding the length of DA romances... I realize that they can play out really quickly if you push them along and manage to gain loads of approval really fast, but for me at least, my thing with Morrigan seemed to take its sweet time developing, due in no small part to the fact that I kept doing things she didn't like, I'm sure.  Also, the game's whole story felt like it was taking place over the course of at least a few months, maybe much more.  So maybe that's what they mean when they say there's no time for it in Awakening.  Of course, I have no idea what kind of time frame we're looking at for the story in Awakening.

[noctoi]

I would have thought that a battle heavy hack and slash fest would be the perfect time for "romance" dialog... Its a well documented fact that intense violent situations turn normal logical people into horny sex crazed fiends!! It's that whole "re-affirming life in the face of death" thing... I don't buy the "it wouldn't fit with the story line" rap, it would make things leagues more realistic. If i wanted a straight dungeon hack I'd be playing some $20 D&D rip off. *stalks off to cry in frustration over the desecration of the only rpg I have every really gotten immersed in*

[Diogo Gomez]

I thin this must be jsut a one-game thing. Because they wnated us to focus just on the story, that may not happen on all of the others games.

[Trefalen]

David Gaider wrote...
I'd say that proves it's worthwhile doing again in the future... in a game with the budget to support doing it, and doing it in the manner that such plots deserve.

 I kinda figured this was why it was left out (no budget for it) To be bluntly honest, no romance, and only 15-20 hours of content, I'll wait for it to hit the bargain bin. It's not shaping up to be worth $30+ to me. $10 or so would be ok.

Modifié par Trefalen, 01 mars 2010 - 11:02 .

[junibee]

While it's disappointing that romance will not be a focus in Awakening, I think it just leaves us all the more hungry for what comes next Think positive people!

[Kelnuin]

No Romance? Boo! I liked the interplay of the character's and the romances were part of that. If this is a trend, it may change my purchasing habits for Bio-Ware products. Character interplay is what makes this game superior, without it the game is a fancy first person shooter.