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[Forsakerr]

The Other One wrote...

JMKnave wrote...

Not every shop has a discount. The weapons merchant on Ilium will only offer a discount if you've imported an ME1 save and do the Conrad Verner quest in the bar.

If you didn't, then Conrad Verner does not show up and you're sol.

Also, I've done all the quests available including all assignments without buying a single thing from any shop and picked up every possible upgrade along the way. But even so, the last set of remaining upgrades are always found in the shops and I could not afford all of them even with a NG+.

I've been wondering why the shopkeeper doesn't want to talk to me. It's like the only shop where I can't get a discount.

So I've imported an ME1 character. How do I activate the Conrad Verner quest?

you go to the ilium club and on the way there there is an asari outside that talks about a human making trouble in the club talk to her and it should trigger it ,if she s not there or conrad is not there then i dont know , you need to have completed conrad quest in ME1 though

[keginkc]

JMKnave wrote...

Perhaps you can buy everything if you use an ME1 import so you could get the discount for that weapons merchant as well but I have not found it to be the case with just a NG+.

Actually didn't have that discount on the playthrough where I got everything with 100K left over.  I did get every other available discount, though.

NG+ you're going to be 100k short; I don't think you get the rich character bonus from ME1.  It doesn't carry over for whatever reason.  At least that's what I recall from the one NG+ I've done in ME2.   That could be the problem.

What I'm planning to do if I ever do another NG+ character is buy every armor piece that I need on the first character, because those do carry over.  But, really, I don't see a reason for me to do NG+ again until the level cap is raised.  Because you don't really gain anything but the bonus weapon skill, and you lose the bonus credits and bonus resources that importing an ME1 character brings.

Modifié par keginkc, 21 février 2010 - 07:37 .

[The Enkindler]

sleepy__head wrote...

Getting tired of repeating myself, people should read the thread.  It has already been PROVEN that in a 1st playthrough, even if you import a level 60 character from ME1 with the bling achievement, even if you do all missions, open all containers, save up on fuel and probes etc etc that you cannot buy and upgrade everything.  There are not enough missions in the game to produce enough money to do that.  Period.

Are you sure you did everything?

After completing the game I went around the entire galaxy visiting every planet (because what else can you do besides another playthrough while waiting for DLC?). I found at least 10+ more missions and opportunities to get more money. There was a really cool virus infected VI trio of missions that even gets it's own galatic news report...

Fuel and probes didn't really cost that much either. Once I ran out of things to research, there wasn't any point in collecting resources and wasting probes (and hence not spending any more on probes). I just orbited the planet to see if EDI would auto detect an anomaly.

I think I even remember during the game encountering a planet with a Prothean beacon and getting one of those cool visions where it showed a Prothean was a Collector. I didn't understand it at the time but it was so cool. I can't remember if I accidentally discovered that planet or if it was scripted in the game to always find...

Urazz wrote...

The Enkindler wrote...

I never ran out of money throughout the whole game. In fact I think I finished with half a million credits left.

I saw expensive upgrades on sale in stores and ignored them unless I was feeling like a big spender.

You actually do need money to get all the upgrades.  Not all of them is acquireable on missions. There is enough credits you can get in game to buy everything if you do everything (sidemissions included) .

I never claimed to have all the upgrades in that quote. I managed to complete the game with everyone surviving without having all the upgrades. I just made sure I bought them when necessary (e.g. when I couldn't find the plans for free on a planet). I didn't need them all. I just took the ones I thought would best help my squad survive.

I actually achieved the Fully Upgrade Weapon achievement AFTER the game was completed and I could continue on.

Jeremy Winston wrote...

The Enkindler wrote...

I saw expensive upgrades on sale in stores and ignored them unless I was feeling like a big spender.

If you never purchased the upgrades in the store, then you didn't get all the upgrades.  Period. Naturally, if I never spend money, I never run out.

Sure I bought upgrades from stores. I never said I didn't ever do it. I also never claimed to have all the upgrades. You can strategically choose which ones to go for in stores. That's added gameplay dynamics.

Like I said, I still have half a million credits left. Maybe I should go around seeing if I can buy all the upgrades now that the game is over? I'll check it now

[GenericPlayer2]

Saint Op wrote...

GenericPlayer2 wrote...

A DLC which includes a 'Minerals Broker' would solve alot of problems. Those who need money could sell minerals, those who want minerals can just buy it.

Ok yeah and a DLC for infinite money and resources and paragon and renagade and screw it infinite exp and all upgrades and multiple LI's and maybe even it will just play the damn game for you...

Really the first game felt cheap with so much money that you couldn't spend accually having to find all the money to get everything felt like I was trying to earn stuff. Saving up for my spify new shoulder pads felt like an achivment.

Dude what I am suggesting is no where near what you are talking about. People strip mine planets and end up with excess minerals of what sort or another (Palladium, Eezo...etc). Scanning is still tedious and people should be able to sell these minerals off in a trade/industry hub like Ilium. It wouldn't be free money. Conversely, people who hate scanning would be able pay for the minerals they need.

People who want free money don't need to request more content, they can just edit the save game file.

[Barrendall]

I would like to be able to sell resources for credits, I think it would bring more dynamic to your playing experience. Maybe add a merchant achievement somewhere? Some new dialogue choices from vendors recognizing you as a Miner/trader? I don't know just seems it would be nice to have some options there to be emancipated from Cerberus financially.

Modifié par Barrendall111, 21 février 2010 - 11:14 .

[ZennExile]

The Enkindler wrote...

sleepy__head wrote...

Getting tired of repeating myself, people should read the thread.  It has already been PROVEN that in a 1st playthrough, even if you import a level 60 character from ME1 with the bling achievement, even if you do all missions, open all containers, save up on fuel and probes etc etc that you cannot buy and upgrade everything.  There are not enough missions in the game to produce enough money to do that.  Period.

Are you sure you did everything?

After completing the game I went around the entire galaxy visiting every planet (because what else can you do besides another playthrough while waiting for DLC?). I found at least 10+ more missions and opportunities to get more money. There was a really cool virus infected VI trio of missions that even gets it's own galatic news report...

Fuel and probes didn't really cost that much either. Once I ran out of things to research, there wasn't any point in collecting resources and wasting probes (and hence not spending any more on probes). I just orbited the planet to see if EDI would auto detect an anomaly.

I think I even remember during the game encountering a planet with a Prothean beacon and getting one of those cool visions where it showed a Prothean was a Collector. I didn't understand it at the time but it was so cool. I can't remember if I accidentally discovered that planet or if it was scripted in the game to always find...

Urazz wrote...

The Enkindler wrote...

I never ran out of money throughout the whole game. In fact I think I finished with half a million credits left.

I saw expensive upgrades on sale in stores and ignored them unless I was feeling like a big spender.

You actually do need money to get all the upgrades.  Not all of them is acquireable on missions. There is enough credits you can get in game to buy everything if you do everything (sidemissions included) .

I never claimed to have all the upgrades in that quote. I managed to complete the game with everyone surviving without having all the upgrades. I just made sure I bought them when necessary (e.g. when I couldn't find the plans for free on a planet). I didn't need them all. I just took the ones I thought would best help my squad survive.

I actually achieved the Fully Upgrade Weapon achievement AFTER the game was completed and I could continue on.

Jeremy Winston wrote...

The Enkindler wrote...

I saw expensive upgrades on sale in stores and ignored them unless I was feeling like a big spender.

If you never purchased the upgrades in the store, then you didn't get all the upgrades.  Period. Naturally, if I never spend money, I never run out.

Sure I bought upgrades from stores. I never said I didn't ever do it. I also never claimed to have all the upgrades. You can strategically choose which ones to go for in stores. That's added gameplay dynamics.

Like I said, I still have half a million credits left. Maybe I should go around seeing if I can buy all the upgrades now that the game is over? I'll check it now

Why would you even respond to this knowing full well that you have not even collected all the upgrades yourself?  The poster you responded too with "are you sure cause I balh blah blah pudding cake pizza I'ma retard WEEEEE", was talking about being able to "buy all the upgrades"  and how that "wasn't possible even if you do everything"  and you respond with "are you sure cause I didn't do everything and I have no clue what I'm talking about but I felt I needed to tell you that I doubt your conclusion based on the fact that I might later finish all the missions in the game and spend some money that I horded on trying to actually buy upgrades..."

Did it not occur to you at any point that this entire reply was retarded?

[RageBattle]

I think the upgrades are too costly, even with discounts. Like 75,000 credits for a 10% damage upgrade? The kid in Omega said he bought a pistol for 50 credits.

[The Enkindler]

ZennExile wrote...

Why would you even respond to this knowing full well that you have not even collected all the upgrades yourself?  The poster you responded too with "are you sure cause I balh blah blah pudding cake pizza I'ma retard WEEEEE", was talking about being able to "buy all the upgrades"  and how that "wasn't possible even if you do everything"  and you respond with "are you sure cause I didn't do everything and I have no clue what I'm talking about but I felt I needed to tell you that I doubt your conclusion based on the fact that I might later finish all the missions in the game and spend some money that I horded on trying to actually buy upgrades..."

Did it not occur to you at any point that this entire reply was retarded?

Did it not occur to you that you are almost always berating people, or the game itself?

The overall sense of the original post indicates that they feel they cannot get all the upgrades even after two playthroughs after doing "everything". I suggest that perhaps they did not do "everything", as there are many exploration missions that give you extra experience and cash that don't show up unless you orbit an unexplored planet on the map.

In just one playthrough I manage to get to a level 27 character, yet the original person has done two playthroughs and is only at level 28 which is only one above me - so have they really done "everything"?

Also I don't try to assume that getting all the upgrades is necessary - it could be an intentional limitation that you can't get every upgrade possible before the end of the game (unless possibly you do multiple playthroughs or imports with stuff carrying over between games). Who the heck said it was your God-given right to have everything upgraded before the end mission? The designers may have intended for you to focus on improving as best as you can and making difficult choices that affect your end result.

If you can't afford them all, will you focus on defensive upgrades at the expense of offensive weapons? Or will you focus on equipping your squad with powerful guns rather than upgrading their health and damage resistance? That seems like a game mechanic to me - possibly thrown in because some people complained the first game could be really easy at the end if you got every upgrade possible.

Perhaps you should stop insulting people and make valuable contributions on discussions?

Modifié par The Enkindler, 22 février 2010 - 12:42 .

[GenericPlayer2]

I'll admit I didn't buy all the upgrades first time around - I ignored all heavy pistol ones and some of the shotgun ones since my character did not use them. I did have a stash of money left over, but after the final mission I did not bother to fly around and buy things up. Plus I didn't know if more, say sniper upgrades would unlock and become available. Wanted to save my money for those.



I did do all the side missions though, I was very thorough with that.

[GenericPlayer2]

Barrendall111 wrote...

I would like to be able to sell resources for credits, I think it would bring more dynamic to your playing experience. Maybe add a merchant achievement somewhere? Some new dialogue choices from vendors recognizing you as a Miner/trader? I don't know just seems it would be nice to have some options there to be emancipated from Cerberus financially.

Thats a great idea. A DLC volus merchant in Ilium that trades in minerals. He can buy whatever you have excess of, and sell you what you are short on. What is wrong with being able to sell some Palladium for cash or exchange it for some platinum? You will still be spending time on the mineral scanner either way.

[Amethyst Deceiver]

how the hell are people that imported lv60 saves having trouble with money?



i dont remember a single moment outside of the first chapter of the game (pre-horizon) where money was a tight issue. i managed to buy all the upgrades in stores etc. and still had a lot left over.



i even failed quite a few of the wall safe hacks without re-doing them

[mopotter]

Tisiphne wrote...

I did not have this problem... I'm truly not certain how you managed it.

I got enough credits from importing a character and hacking wallsafes to have plenty of money left over.

So did I.  I've bought out stuff I don't need just to buy things.  I was hoping the stores would bring in new items but once everything is gone it's gone for good.

[The Enkindler]

To do it for myself so that I know what is going on, I have just went back into the game to get the list of upgrades I have at the end, plus check out the stores for any left to buy.

I have:

• AP Heavy Pistol
• AP Sniper Rifle
• Advanced Mineral Scanner
• Assault Rifle Damage 4/5
• Assault Rifle Penetration
• Biotic Cooldown
• Biotic Damage 5/5
• Biotic Duration
• Bypass Module
• Damage Protection 5/5
• Emergency Shielding
• Extended Fuel Cells
• Geth Shield Strength 2/2
• Geth Sniper Rifle
• Hard Shields
• Heavy Bone Weave
• Heavy Muscle Weave
• Heavy Pistol Critical
• Heavy Pistol Damage 4/5
• Heavy Ship Armor
• Heavy Skin Weave 5/5
• Heavy Weapons Ammo 5/5
• Krogan Shotfun
• Krogan Vitality 1/2
• M-622 Avalanche
• M-920 Cain
• ML-77 Missile Launcher
• Medi-gel Capacity 5/5
• Modular Probe Bay
• Mordin Omni-tool
• Multicore Shielding
• Redundant Shield Generator
• SMG Extra Rounds
• SMG Shield Piercing
• Shotgun Damage 4/5
• Shotgun Extra Rounds
• Shotgun Shield Piercing
• Sniper Headshot Damage
• Sniper Rifle Damage 4/5
• Subject Zero Biotic Boost
• Submachine gun Damage 4/5
• Tech Cooldowns
• Tech Damage 5/5
• Tech Duration
• Thanix Cannon
• Trauma Module

It was at this point I exhausted my reserves of credits and ran out of missions to get more money. This is with an ME1 import Shepard that got a $100-150k starting bonus (I can't remember how much exactly).

The remaining upgrades are around 50k each. So, with some people mentioning that they got $350,000 starting bonus, it means that if I had that I might be able to have gotten all the remaining upgrades. Also, if I didn't waste thousands of creds restocking the fish every time they died, I might have saved even more...

So having all the upgrades is virtually possible for hardcore players. Of course, for the regular gameplayers among us, it means either watching carefully what you spend money on or picking and choosing which upgrade paths you want to follow as part of your game strategy.

Interestingly, while I was looking at the stores, I found another Heavy Weapon Ammo Upgrade which would mean that it would be 6/5. Is that normal? And there was a hack module I didn't get either. I am not sure where to get Korgan Vitality 2/2...

Modifié par The Enkindler, 22 février 2010 - 02:37 .

[GenericPlayer2]

Amethyst Deceiver wrote...

how the hell are people that imported lv60 saves having trouble with money?

i dont remember a single moment outside of the first chapter of the game (pre-horizon) where money was a tight issue. i managed to buy all the upgrades in stores etc. and still had a lot left over.

i even failed quite a few of the wall safe hacks without re-doing them

I think its far more likely to 'miss' an upgrade on a mission or side-mission than it is to not be able to afford one.

mopotter wrote...

So did I.  I've bought out stuff I don't need just to buy things.  I was hoping the stores would bring in new items but once everything is gone it's gone for good.

Some stores will restock after the Collector ship mission. Serrice Tech and Gateway on Ilium will have new upgrades. Ratchet on Tuchanka and Harrots on Omega will have some new N7 armor stuff. Off the top of my head, but there you go.

Modifié par GenericPlayer2, 22 février 2010 - 03:18 .

[keginkc]

The Enkindler wrote...

[*]Interestingly, while I was looking at the stores, I found another Heavy Weapon Ammo Upgrade which would mean that it would be 6/5. Is that normal? And there was a hack module I didn't get either. I am not sure where to get Korgan Vitality 2/2...

6/6 Heavy Weapons is normal.  That means you went the paragon route on Zaeed's loyalty mission.  If you go renegade and let all the innocents die, you get 6/6 assault rifle.  Actually, you can get a 6th (or 7th, with Zaeed's mission) Heavy Weapons Ammo to appear on the Blood Pack Communications Relay assignment, but it's bugged and doesn't show up back on the ship.   As for the two Krogan Vitality upgrades, this is going off memory so it might be off, but I believe one is on a terminal in the room where you meet okeer on Grunt's recruitment mission, and the other is on a terminal in the room where there's a dead female krogan on an operating table on Mordin's loyalty mission.

[ShaqH]

How much money is necessary to buy everything in the game? With discounts

[JMKnave]

ShaqH wrote...

How much money is necessary to buy everything in the game? With discounts

It was 1,330,000 for all the upgrades in all the shops for me. That total does not include any cabin decorations like fish, boo the space hamster, ship models or any of the armor pieces.

But I did not have an ME1 import with the Conrad Verner quest completed so I couldn't get the discount at the Ilium Weapons Merchant. She has 4 upgrades I believe (2 at 90,000 and 2 at 60,000). With a discount I think it drops the 90,000 down to 75,000/each and the 60,000 down to 50,000/each. So you would save about 50,000 credits in total. I can't check the save game at the moment so I'm not sure if she had 5 total upgrades or just the 4 I mentioned.

Someone will have to confirm but as it is the total would be 1,280,000 which would still leave me short by 169,000 credits. I think as some people stated that with the Rich achievement in ME1, you have enough credits for everything. Which I can understand as Bioware would like to reward loyal customers. It's just frustrating for a completionist like myself.

I may just have to buy ME1 and do an entire ME1/ME2 playthrough just because of this.

[boardnfool86]

Again, I purchased everything there is to purchase and then some... wasn't a problem for me

[Amethyst Deceiver]

likewise.

even without the import bonus, i still have no idea how anyone could have money issues. the amount i had left over was more than the starting bonus amount i got from importing. so you should be able to raise enough money in ME2 alone to afford all the stuff.

are you sure you're not telling me everything?

red sand addict maybe? asari hookers?

Modifié par Amethyst Deceiver, 23 février 2010 - 12:49 .

[sedrikhcain]

The Enkindler wrote...

[*]
It was at this point I exhausted my reserves of credits and ran out of missions to get more money. This is with an ME1 import Shepard that got a $100-150k starting bonus (I can't remember how much exactly).

The remaining upgrades are around 50k each. So, with some people mentioning that they got $350,000 starting bonus, it means that if I had that I might be able to have gotten all the remaining upgrades. Also, if I didn't waste thousands of creds restocking the fish every time they died, I might have saved even more...

So having all the upgrades is virtually possible for hardcore players. Of course, for the regular gameplayers among us, it means either watching carefully what you spend money on or picking and choosing which upgrade paths you want to follow as part of your game strategy.

Interestingly, while I was looking at the stores, I found another Heavy Weapon Ammo Upgrade which would mean that it would be 6/5. Is that normal? And there was a hack module I didn't get either. I am not sure where to get Korgan Vitality 2/2...

[*]If you flirt with yeoman Kelly, she'll eventually offer to feed your fish for you. And no, that's not a double entendre.

[sedrikhcain]

Amethyst Deceiver wrote...

likewise.

even without the import bonus, i still have no idea how anyone could have money issues. the amount i had left over was more than the starting bonus amount i got from importing. so you should be able to raise enough money in ME2 alone to afford all the stuff.

are you sure you're not telling me everything?

red sand addict maybe? asari hookers?

I've somehow missed that Asari hooker minigame. Is there a hot coffee mod?

Seriously though, I haven't wasted any money. Didn't even buy a fish this time. There just isn't enough dough.

[sedrikhcain]

boardnfool86 wrote...

Again, I purchased everything there is to purchase and then some... wasn't a problem for me

Why do people make posts like this? Y'know what? Congratulations. You're WAAAAAY better at ME2 money management than I am. Now how about filling us in on what you did that made it so easy for you? People don't come here and post questions/problems just so that someone can come along and say "I did it easily, nyah! nyah! nyah!" without offering any advice. 

[sedrikhcain]

Meta Ray Mek wrote...

I never had a problem with being broke.

granted, both of my characters are imported from ME1 and had loads of money. Plus I was kinda frugal about what I bought too.

I imported a level 59 rich character, bought exactly one fish, and still couldn't afford all the upgrades. What are you doing that I'm not? My goal is to buy ALL the upgrades. I know I can buy enough to get by. 

[sleepy__head]

Thanks for proving my point about trolling.   Want to discuss the issue?  Feel free to.  Want to discuss posters?  Thats trolling and against forum policies.

Glad we settled that once and for all.

ThePasserby wrote...
Thanks for proving my point about your belligerence